Le 2012-03-09 à 08:32:00, Roman Haefeli a écrit :
But 0.1 still cannot be represented exactly by float64, can it?
It can't. It also doesn't work for any other form of binary floating
point. It's just that float64 is a lot closer to exact than float32 can
be, and so on.
0.1 = 1/10 =
From: Billy Stiltner billy.stilt...@gmail.com
To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com
Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 1:49 AM
Subject: Re: [PD] nonlocal message passing scope
I got stuck redoing an lfo for polysynth where each
Just sent this to the eightycolumn list. I'm not going to even read any of
the messages from the original post. I'm Sorry, ok.
Oh dear...
I am guessing you are pointing to the fact that libpd encourages the
production of proprietary software and their distribution on closed apps
markets?
I hadn't ever seen that before. not sure what it does Ill have to try it
out.The table does have to be unique to the main patch but used from
several sub patches. Thanks for making me think about how to keep the main
patch abstractable. I guess that calls for tacking on the lfo canvases $0
Hi folks,
yesterday I tried my Xth Sense system on a student's machine running Ubuntu
11.10 and Pd-ext 0.43.1 from the latest autobuilds.
- Strangely enough, Pd would start with real-time flag at anytime (from a
launcher of from a terminal without any flag).
We had to do $ pd-extended -nrt to
Am I?
the library lives at the link below (along with the Xth Sense software
repo).
It includes over 100 objects, and only needs some more help-files to be
completed, but for everything else it should be compatible with the
guidelines.
https://github.com/marcodsad/Xth-Sense-lib
This collection
everyone should always be on time, basically the files only has to be
subverted into the depository.
write to Hans-Christoph directly, and join the pd-dev list. He'll tell you
what needs to be done (or point you to the relevant page somewhere in
puredata.info).
With pd-ext 0.43 coming out
(sorry to quote but this will keep the conversation on the list..)
Thanks Ivica, it makes sense to try this out.
I should have thought about it yesterday.
The student and her machine are gone now, but I'll write her and ask to try
this out.
I still wish to know if anybody is experiencing
smoking isn't really THAT bad. as long as you don't smoke too many, it
just raises your odds on diseases that have pretty low odds anyway,
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long as you don't smoke too many
One is to many and a thousand is never enough.
On Mar 9, 2012, at 7:55 AM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:
smoking isn't really THAT bad. as long as you don't smoke too many, it just
raises your odds on diseases that have pretty low odds anyway,
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 12:06 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Hi folks,
yesterday I tried my Xth Sense system on a student's machine running Ubuntu
11.10 and Pd-ext 0.43.1 from the latest autobuilds.
- Strangely enough, Pd would start with real-time flag at anytime (from a
launcher of from a
the problem with cigarettes is being able to make your own.
the same thing applies on software, as i see.
2012/3/9 mark edward grimm megr...@gmail.com
long as you don't smoke too many
One is to many and a thousand is never enough.
On Mar 9, 2012, at 7:55 AM, i go bananas
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From: Marco Donnarumma [mailto:de...@thesaddj.com]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 7:45 AM
To: pd-list@iem.at
Cc: Ivica Ico Bukvic
Subject: Re: [PD] some observations and questions on Pd-ext 0.43.1 beta
(sorry to quote but this will keep the conversation on the list..)
We had to do $ pd-extended -nrt to get rid of the real time.
Why this happens?
I experience the same.
Ok, then I don't think this should be a feature, or is it already?
- is Flatspace being removed from Pd-ext?
I couldn't find it in the extra folder. I needed it for [line3]
From
Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for
the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).
Quoting Hans
...
I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible. With
much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install
Sees that git would be the way to go. Why not then? Would the migration
mean huge workload for the admins?
I've happily switch from svn and other managers to git, and living happily
with git on my server.
best,
pedro
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:47 PM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote:
Sadly it's
On 2012-03-09 02:32, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 18:03 -0500, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Le 2012-03-08 à 11:47:00, Jonathan Wilkes a écrit :
From: Roman Haefelireduz...@gmail.com
That's a good example of the implications inherent in floats. What you
call a work-around is actually
On 09/03/12 14:44, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
We had to do $ pd-extended -nrt to get rid of the real time.
Why this happens?
I experience the same.
So do I
Ok, then I don't think this should be a feature, or is it already?
I wonder if this is somehow related to the ~/.pdextended
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:42, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote:
Just sent this to the eightycolumn list. I'm not going to even read any
of the messages from the original post. I'm Sorry, ok.
Oh dear...
I am guessing you are pointing to the fact that libpd encourages the
On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:
On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 12:06 +, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Hi folks,
yesterday I tried my Xth Sense system on a student's machine running Ubuntu
11.10 and Pd-ext 0.43.1 from the latest autobuilds.
- Strangely enough, Pd would start with
2012/3/9 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com:
I can see your point concerning O'reilly and even with libpd but I'm
convinced the threat is far from the need
of four-letter words. Pd's editing and programming features shall stay open
and continue to support the less professional and then all will
Thanks for posting that, Patrick. If you have never made a proper versioned
release of your library, then its safe to say that its a long way from getting
into Pd-extended. Here is the full process (which is what I do for the
libraries I maintain in Pd-extended):
We had to do $ pd-extended -nrt to get rid of the real time.
Why this happens?
I experience the same.
Its set in the embedded preferences for Pd-extended
(/usr/lib/pd-extended/default.pdextended) I figured that made sense for
most users of Pd-extended, but I'm willing to reconsider if
Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for
the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).
ooh :/
wow, PdMtl is out there since ages...
I always thought why it is not yet included.
Quoting Hans
...
I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44
On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for
the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).
ooh :/
wow, PdMtl is out there since ages...
I always thought why it is not yet included.
But 0.1 still cannot be represented exactly by float64, can it?
For any floatX unless X is infinity the number of floats that are not
exactly represented is always infinite.
Martin
There is a countably infinite number of rational numbers and a
uncountably infinite number of irrational
Here you can download the recompiled version of ScenePlayer including
some additional externals (see README.txt for the list), together with a
simple example of communication between a computer and a mobile phone.
http://www.csc.kth.se/~dubus/Android/NetTest.zip
In this example, the phone
2012/3/9 alex a...@lurk.org
2012/3/9 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com:
I can see your point concerning O'reilly and even with libpd but I'm
convinced the threat is far from the need
of four-letter words. Pd's editing and programming features shall stay
open
and continue to support the
Thanks Hans.
I still think it is doable for the Xth Sense lib, this is the current state
of the lib according to the guidelines.
OK_ it is cross-platform, I did 7 workshops in 2011 with this tools on
different machines.
OK_ the lib is in Libdir format
OK_ it is already released as a standalone
Looks like lots of progress, that's good to see. :-)
On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Thanks Hans.
I still think it is doable for the Xth Sense lib, this is the current state
of the lib according to the guidelines.
OK_ it is cross-platform, I did 7 workshops in
Le 2012-03-09 à 09:39:00, Charles Henry a écrit :
Martin a écrit :
For any floatX unless X is infinity the number of floats that are not
exactly represented is always infinite.
For a floatX format where X is the number of bits, every float is exact
and there are at most pow(2,X) floats.
Le 2012-03-09 à 15:20:00, Marco Donnarumma a écrit :
wow, PdMtl is out there since ages... I always thought why it is not
yet included.
Yes, and there are also much older libs than that, that aren't included
either.
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Le 2012-03-09 à 17:08:00, András Murányi a écrit :
I meant myself, for example - and everyone who doesn't do Pd fulltime,
thus cannot really afford to learn using the more complicated
parts/methods. So to say, the barriers to entry shall be kept low.
Nearly none of the Pd professionals use
On Mar 9, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
Le 2012-03-09 à 15:20:00, Marco Donnarumma a écrit :
wow, PdMtl is out there since ages... I always thought why it is not yet
included.
Yes, and there are also much older libs than that, that aren't included
either.
Yes indeed,
2012/3/9 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
Le 2012-03-09 à 17:08:00, András Murányi a écrit :
I meant myself, for example - and everyone who doesn't do Pd fulltime,
thus cannot really afford to learn using the more complicated
parts/methods. So to say, the barriers to entry shall be kept
It's well-known that floats can't be treated the same way as integers...
but since PD is aimed at non-engineers and non-scientists I think it would
be a good idea to implement the good comparison algorithms (i.e. checking
against a threshold, etc) inside [==] and so, just to make patching easier.
From: Quim Llimona lemonz...@gmail.com
To: pd-list pd-list@iem.at
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [PD] Some more float weirdness/fun
It's well-known that floats can't be treated the same way as integers... but
since PD is aimed at
I meant myself, for example - and everyone who doesn't do Pd fulltime,
thus cannot really afford to learn using the more complicated
parts/methods. So to say, the barriers to entry shall be kept low.
Nearly none of the Pd professionals use Pd «fulltime».
Yeah. The question is, do you
Le 2012-03-09 à 14:26:00, Py Fave a écrit :
the problem with cigarettes is being able to make your own.
The problem with cigarettes is smoking them. If it were not a problem,
then the problem would be to grow them, because if you merely roll them,
then you're still buying Drum tobacco and
Le 2012-03-09 à 19:18:00, Quim Llimona a écrit :
It's well-known that floats can't be treated the same way as integers...
but since PD is aimed at non-engineers and non-scientists I think it
would be a good idea to implement the good comparison algorithms (i.e.
checking against a threshold,
Le 2012-03-09 à 13:45:00, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit :
The problem with cigarettes is smoking them. If it were not a problem,
then the problem would be to grow them, because if you merely roll them,
then you're still buying Drum tobacco and Riz Lacroix (RizLa+) paper
from the same company as
2012/3/9 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca
I meant myself, for example - and everyone who doesn't do Pd fulltime,
thus cannot really afford to learn using the more complicated
parts/methods. So to say, the barriers to entry shall be kept low.
Nearly none of the Pd professionals use Pd
Looks like lots of progress, that's good to see. :-)
:)
A link to master in git is not a release. That is a moving target, it
will always download the latest code from from git. A release has a
version and a static download, and has been thoroughly tested. Think of
any software you
But the problem with cigarettes is smoking them. The companies selling them
created the lifestyle and encouraged the craving. Basically everybody fell
for that.
Yeah one of the biggest cons going. As an ex smoker I can say the
hardest thing for me is missing smoking itself. If one never took
Yes, I know. I set up a tag in my local git, but can't figure out how to
update github, so to have the link you mentioned earlier.
git push --tags -u origin master
Ok, I also have the link to the static release.
I feel conformed now :)
--
Marco Donnarumma
New Media + Sonic Arts
On Mar 9, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
Yes, I know. I set up a tag in my local git, but can't figure out how to
update github, so to have the link you mentioned earlier.
git push --tags -u origin master
Ok, I also have the link to the static release.
I feel
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I would love to receive daily digest without Mathieu's unnecessary /
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Sorry, I overlooked that you wanted to have the daily digest filtered. I
guess the answer is no :)
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we had three different videos 4 to 6 mins length. Format was mpeg
video, and the audio was standard 44100 16 bits. The video rate was
29.97 and yes I think this was the problem
I finally solved it using line to ramp the number of frames+1 in the
time duration of the video. Unfortunately my
Mathieu's comments are usually made in the spirit of inquiry and
debate- I enjoy reading them as much as all the other posts here, so I
(respectfully) disagree with your comments have said about him.
Previously I have filtered people from pd-list after complaining about
them to admin (for being
For synced playback of video and audio, you might try my 'framesync' library.
Its a bit raw, but the core playback stuff works well, and I've used it in a
few projects:
http://puredata.info/downloads/framesync
.hc
On Mar 9, 2012, at 5:08 PM, altern wrote:
we had three different videos 4
Each Pd-extended.app is self-contained, so they shouldn't influence each other.
Try running it from the Terminal and see what it says there. Basically, copy
and paste the line below into the Terminal and hit enter:
/Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120226.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd
Hi Hans,
grumpIt seems that getting into Pd-extended has come to mean let Hans maintain it for
me, and this is no longer a viable option./grump
I totally understand that! I just wanted to tell Marco that it was too
late for 0.43. I will surely recheck Pdmtl Mtl for 0.44 - but last
time I
I've had a horrible debate along these lines before. It's ethics, rather than
technology.
But does it make you a better person to have beaten an addiction, or a fool for
becoming addicted? Would it be right for someone who hasn't been through that
experience to have an oppinion on it anyway?
On 3/9/12, mahatGma rabintrah mahat...@gmail.com wrote:
I would love to receive daily digest without Mathieu's unnecessary /
arrogant comments. Is there a way to filter his posts?
Now, if you'd just explain that you're quitting smoking, then that
comment would be disregarded based on recent
On Mar 9, 2012, at 7:34 PM, patrick wrote:
Hi Hans,
grumpIt seems that getting into Pd-extended has come to mean let Hans
maintain it for me, and this is no longer a viable option./grump
I totally understand that! I just wanted to tell Marco that it was too late
for 0.43. I will
~/.pdextended is working for me on Ubuntu. It is just that it won't
save your path settings there any more. Use either the standard install
path:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files
Or for paths for a project, use [path] or [declare -path].
.hc
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On Thu, Mar 08, 2012 at 01:10:34AM -0500, Billy Stiltner wrote:
what is the best way to run scl2pd.py from within pd? i forgot where shell
is located. i want an open file dialog then pass the file name to
scl2pd.py. i probably ought to just rewrite in a languagei understand
like java and
Le 2012-03-09 à 19:58:00, András Murányi a écrit :
Then they have a certain high end, the more advanced topics within -
e.g. dynamic patching for me, or libPd according to Julian. Now, someone
can fear that the focus of developments could move towards the high
end, leaving simple folks
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