Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-11-05 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
But the Pd dev community has always been not so good at coordinated efforts. There is a history of lots of effort going into semi-compatible dev forks which mostly die out after a run (pd-devel, desiredata, vibrez, etc. etc.) Perhaps Pd- extended or pd-l2ork will be the next one to die out...

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 10/22/2013 12:55 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 10/21/2013 11:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On 10/21/2013 03:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 10/21/2013 02:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Carbon has been deprecated by Apple and might have been removed entirely. It will only

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-11-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 11/04/2013 09:51 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On 10/22/2013 12:55 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 10/21/2013 11:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On 10/21/2013 03:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 10/21/2013 02:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Carbon has been deprecated by Apple

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-11-04 Thread Dan Wilcox
On Nov 4, 2013, at 1:35 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: But people aren't going to write a gui for Pd. There is already libpd and I don't see a bunch of elegant and efficient Pd frontends sprouting up because of that. (Though I'm sure there are a lot of projects that do cool things

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-11-04 Thread Ivica Bukvic
...tkpath in pd-l2ork, just like cwiid library is a fork that has more bug fixes and features than any other variant since the core of either packages is not maintained uniformly or at all, so tkpath is very much maintained inside pd-l2ork. There's also on my short-term a todo list to overhaul

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 4, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 11/04/2013 09:51 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On 10/22/2013 12:55 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 10/21/2013 11:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On 10/21/2013 03:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 10/21/2013 02:12 PM, Hans-Christoph

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-10-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 10/21/2013 11:18 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On 10/21/2013 03:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 10/21/2013 02:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Carbon has been deprecated by Apple and might have been removed entirely. It will only ever be 32-bit, and starting in 10.7, everything is

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Carbon has been deprecated by Apple and might have been removed entirely. It will only ever be 32-bit, and starting in 10.7, everything is 64-bit. Anything Carbon is dead, unless you're happy working with 10.6 and older. .hc On 10/09/2013 10:45 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Update-- I've got a

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-10-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 10/21/2013 02:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Carbon has been deprecated by Apple and might have been removed entirely. It will only ever be 32-bit, and starting in 10.7, everything is 64-bit. Anything Carbon is dead, unless you're happy working with 10.6 and older. I'm running

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-10-21 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On 10/21/2013 03:59 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 10/21/2013 02:12 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Carbon has been deprecated by Apple and might have been removed entirely. It will only ever be 32-bit, and starting in 10.7, everything is 64-bit. Anything Carbon is dead, unless you're happy

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-10-10 Thread Martin Peach
On 2013-10-09 22:45, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Update-- I've got a working Pd-l2ork, tkpath based App running on OSX. (No ppc support, unfortunately.) Audio is running. Minefields: ... * I can't figure out how to build the externals in extra. If I do make the linker doesn't find any of the

Re: [PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-10-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Update-- I've got a working Pd-l2ork, tkpath based App running on OSX. (No ppc support, unfortunately.) Audio is running. Minefields: * I cannot for the life of me figure out how to build tkpath using the Tcl/tk Frameworks (Carbon-based) inside Pd-l2ork.app instead of the system ones. (Tried

[PD] Help with OSX App minefield

2013-10-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hello, I'm hoping some MacOSX gurus can help me traverse this mine-field. What I'm trying to do: Port Pd-l2ork (quick-and-dirty) to MacOSX in the form of a Pd-l2ork.app Minefields: * Pd-l2ork uses tkpath, which is built to work with Carbon and not Cocoa.  So I must use tcl/tk Framework that