Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-21 Thread patrice colet
Le mercredi 20 juin 2007 à 14:49 +0200, Roman Haefeli a écrit : as for know, i try to keep things as simple as possible, so that anyone can use netpd without having technical issues (also pd-extended users, course) That must explain why netpd is working so good, thanks dear coordinator, ;).

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-20 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Here is a link to the pdmtl list of files. It has quite a few objects, and a lot of dsp ones too. I am all for adopting this framework, since it is already semi-established with users.

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-20 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 17:52 -0500, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: I am curious, has anyone ever vandalized the netpd patches during a jam? Fortunately, no. i once kind of vandalized. a person left the computer and we needed to restart every client for some reason. because that person was not reachable, i

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-20 Thread hard off
it would be like robbing a grandmother. sounds like fun to me! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-20 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 20:58 +0900, hard off wrote: it would be like robbing a grandmother. sounds like fun to me! bad guy! in that case, you are invited to vandalize in netpd a bit, just for your fun's sake ;-) roman

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-20 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 10:32 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Kyle Klipowicz hat gesagt: // Kyle Klipowicz wrote: Here is a link to the pdmtl list of files. It has quite a few objects, and a lot of dsp ones too. I am all for adopting this framework, since it is already

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-20 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Wed, 2007-06-20 at 04:50 +0200, Patco wrote: It's true that things might be a lot more complicated if net-pd users starts to build net-pd objects with using pd-extended distro, and jam with people that are using net-pd distro. things are more complicated then, absolutely, but: a) i

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 01:09 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 23:34 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: one question still remains: how is it organized? will some mercyful person voluntarly collect the dsp abs and

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: Name (of the patch/abstraction) (Name of the) Author Binary deps (pd-version, externals) Patch deps (abs-collection or single abs) License (e.g. Gnu GPL) though it is also my opinion, that in the first place it is important that

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 17:11 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: Name (of the patch/abstraction) (Name of the) Author Binary deps (pd-version, externals) Patch deps (abs-collection or single abs) License (e.g. Gnu GPL) though it

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Steffen
On 19/06/2007, at 18.48, Roman Haefeli wrote: i forgot to mention, my and syntax' abstractions use a version tag of the format: [version x.x.x( (where x can be any integer number) this is used in netpd, though i am not sure if it makes sense to have it as a standard. if you think,

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Steffen
On 19/06/2007, at 1.06, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 00:47 +0200, Steffen wrote: On 18/06/2007, at 23.21, Roman Haefeli wrote: one question still remains: how is it organized? If it is of any interest i've already voided my opinion, cf.

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: Version numbers i think is crucial. It is simply a dread when folks share there nice code and one don't have a simple system (version numbers) to keep track of what is what and what is newer. By all means, please! I don't think it's

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Steffen
On 19/06/2007, at 19.52, Frank Barknecht wrote: Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: Version numbers i think is crucial. It is simply a dread when folks share there nice code and one don't have a simple system (version numbers) to keep track of what is what and what is newer. By all

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 19:33 +0200, Steffen wrote: The x.x.x-system might be nice. How do you use it? Keep the first x=0 at all times as no code gets to version 1; bumb the second x when new features are added; bumb the last x when bugs are corrected? - yo, that is how i use them. but the

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 19:44 +0200, Steffen wrote: who does define the goals? I think you (pl.) are defining the goals and form of it in this email correspondence. It goes quite well. When you consider it dense, add it up in a README. Maybe even make a wiki page for it in http://

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Steffen
On 19/06/2007, at 21.55, Roman Haefeli wrote: a wiki-page for streamlining the idea and a little howto-guide (with the stuff we already discussed) would be nice, though i don't know how to create the page, respectively who as write acces to it. I think it's a matter for proposing it to he

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 17:11 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Some other things: A tricky issue may be abstractions that use other custom abstractions. I think, a subdirectory for these sub-abstractions would be good to have, so that the namespace doesn't get polluted. personally, i don't

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: On 19/06/2007, at 21.55, Roman Haefeli wrote: a wiki-page for streamlining the idea and a little howto-guide (with the stuff we already discussed) would be nice, though i don't know how to create the page, respectively who as write acces

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I am curious, has anyone ever vandalized the netpd patches during a jam? ~Kyle On 6/19/07, Roman Haefeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 19:33 +0200, Steffen wrote: The x.x.x-system might be nice. How do you use it? Keep the first x=0 at all times as no code gets to version

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Another interesting approach is that taken by pdmtl, which uses a namespace-type separation of objects based upon their type and use. IIRC, it is not in Pd-extended yet either... ~Kyle On 6/19/07, Steffen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19/06/2007, at 21.55, Roman Haefeli wrote: a wiki-page for

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Patco
Hello, Kyle Klipowicz a écrit : I am curious, has anyone ever vandalized the netpd patches during a jam? It's true that things might be a lot more complicated if net-pd users starts to build net-pd objects with using pd-extended distro, and jam with people that are using net-pd distro.

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-19 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
Here is a link to the pdmtl list of files. It has quite a few objects, and a lot of dsp ones too. I am all for adopting this framework, since it is already semi-established with users. http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions/Contents Let's face it, it's difficult to find objects through the

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-18 Thread Steffen
On 18/06/2007, at 23.21, Roman Haefeli wrote: one question still remains: how is it organized? If it is of any interest i've already voided my opinion, cf. http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-06/051122.html ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2007-06-19 at 00:47 +0200, Steffen wrote: On 18/06/2007, at 23.21, Roman Haefeli wrote: one question still remains: how is it organized? If it is of any interest i've already voided my opinion, cf. http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-06/051122.html absolutely.

Re: [PD] [dsplib]: how should it be maintained?

2007-06-18 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Mon, 2007-06-18 at 23:34 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote: one question still remains: how is it organized? will some mercyful person voluntarly collect the dsp abs and check it in into cvs? or shall we give cvs write access to