Re: [PD] 2 color questions in GEM

2012-11-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-11-27 04:47, chris clepper wrote: The color values should probably be between 0.0 and 1.0 in floating point. Try 1.0 0.65 0.0 Also, use [text3d] instead of 2d. and [color] is the object the change the color of an object. fgmasdr

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
Hi all Johnny-come-lately I am . . . I've experienced this problem since 0.43 (vanilla and extended), I believe, but I haven't really investigated it, because it didn't happen that often and I wasn't able to reliably reproduce it. Now I figured out a way to reliably reproduce it. It seems the

Re: [PD] turn off object bar in pd-extended 0.43

2012-11-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-11-26 22:33, András Murányi wrote: It's me who maintains it (BTW don't send bugs to the bug tracker as the plugin is not part of the distro). the bug-tracker has nothing todo with a distro (neither Pd-vanilla, nor Pd-extended) it's a

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Die, 2012-11-27 at 10:20 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: The problem seems related to the fact that switching DSP also switches the jack client on and off. I think the preferred way would be to be able to switch DSP on/off independently from switching audio back-end on/off. I just tested

Re: [PD] Limit bandwith for MIDI output / precise metro

2012-11-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-11-26 23:29, Cyrille Henry wrote: Le 26/11/2012 22:38, Jean-Marie Adrien a écrit : Thanks Miller ! -nosound -udiobuf 5 -slepgrain 1 Definitely academic :) But I run intense audio on this PD instance, together with midi driving

Re: [PD] Limit bandwith for MIDI output / precise metro

2012-11-27 Thread Jean-Marie Adrien
thanks, clear indeed ! JM Le 27 nov. 2012 à 10:36, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-11-26 23:29, Cyrille Henry wrote: Le 26/11/2012 22:38, Jean-Marie Adrien a écrit : Thanks Miller ! -nosound -udiobuf 5 -slepgrain 1 Definitely

Re: [PD] Limit bandwith for MIDI output / precise metro

2012-11-27 Thread Cyrille Henry
Le 27/11/2012 10:36, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit : ... with MIDI, Pd doesn't do any buffering and no synchronisation to some external clock is done, so messages appear in bursts which you notice as a inaccurate timing. There is 1 strange thing however : pd did some kind of buffering with

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-27 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Is that the way it was in vanilla 0.42, or did something change in pd-l2ork? .hc On Nov 27, 2012, at 4:34 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote: I just tested pd-l2ork and it seems this is exactly how it fixes the freeze problem: Turning DSP off does not kill the pd client in jack. Roman On Die,

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-27 Thread J Oliver
Hi Miller, Is this with the test tone patch? for the record i compared the on board intel card of the linux machine, the result is quite impressive, i don't think it can get any better: I have also gotten the HDA way lower than 20 ms in ubuntu 12.04...! best, J

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-27 Thread Roman Haefeli
I don't know. IIRC, Pd-{vanilla,extended} up to 0.42 behaved as pd-l2ork does now. Is pd-l2ork based on 0.42? If so, they (Ivica) wouldn't have had to fix it at all. Roman On Die, 2012-11-27 at 09:50 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Is that the way it was in vanilla 0.42, or did something

Re: [PD] Freezes with Pd-Extended and Jack

2012-11-27 Thread Ivica Ico Bukvic
Two things: 1) in 0.43 there has been a rewrite of audio backend which AFAICT broke jack connectivity. 2) 0.42 branch does not know when jack has died (as in quit or crashed) and therefore hangs pd. This has been fixed in pd-l2ork. Since it is a combination of 1 and 2 there is not a patch per

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-27 Thread Max
you are right - those numbers seem to be to good to be true. On the other hand I followed the instructions in the latency patch and don't know what could have been wrong. Am 26.11.2012 um 19:04 schrieb Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu: Hmm - I'm getting latencies between 6 and 7 (Fedora 17, Core

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-27 Thread Max
Am 27.11.2012 um 17:02 schrieb J Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com: for the record i compared the on board intel card of the linux machine, the result is quite impressive, i don't think it can get any better: I have also gotten the HDA way lower than 20 ms in ubuntu 12.04...! for comparability

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette
If I'm reading rour post right, you're specifying 20 msec latency and getting about 22, which is OK, but I think you should be able to get lower latencies (i.e., I don't see that numbers like 21.9012 are too good to be true - those are typical Macintosh latencies but I think in linux you should be

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-27 Thread Max
oh really? that's interesting. The later numbers come from a Ubuntu machine which isn't set up for sound at all, so when I compare those with a os x machine and the famous rme drivers the numbers are still impressive. Am 27.11.2012 um 17:47 schrieb Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu: If I'm

Re: [PD] Limit bandwith for MIDI output / precise metro

2012-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette
Pd tries to time-stamp MIDI on input and tries to delay sending MIDI output until the correct time; but Pd's accuracy in doing this is limited by the fact that it can't input or output MIID while it is either sleeping or running (only when the scheduler polls for what-to-do-next after either a

Re: [PD] Limit bandwith for MIDI output / precise metro

2012-11-27 Thread Cyrille Henry
Is there a way to bypass all of this? my pd usage usually imply sending and receiving as fast as possible. sending delay usually annoy me. cheers c Le 27/11/2012 18:06, Miller Puckette a écrit : Pd tries to time-stamp MIDI on input and tries to delay sending MIDI output until the correct time;

Re: [PD] Limit bandwith for MIDI output / precise metro

2012-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette
I believe if you edit s_midi.c and change: if (midi_outqueue[midi_outtail].q_time = midirealtime) to if (1) and if (midi_inqueue[midi_intail].q_time = logicaltime) also to if (1) that will make it fast-as-possible. The queueing code should probably be

Re: [PD] Limit bandwith for MIDI output / precise metro

2012-11-27 Thread Cyrille Henry
cool, thanks. better than a ifdef, a startup flag! cheers c Le 27/11/2012 18:50, Miller Puckette a écrit : I believe if you edit s_midi.c and change: if (midi_outqueue[midi_outtail].q_time = midirealtime) to if (1) and if (midi_inqueue[midi_intail].q_time =

Re: [PD] Limit bandwith for MIDI output / precise metro

2012-11-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-11-27 18:06, Miller Puckette wrote: better on some underlying OS time-tagging mechanism (for instance by exploiting whatever portmidi does). But I have to admit I've never treated this as a high priority (which one might take as an

[PD] data structures in abstractions

2012-11-27 Thread eldad tsabary
Hello all Is there a way to include a data structure graphical shape (filledpolygon for example) inside an abstraction's graph on parent? I saw that when trying to add a graph on parent in the data window it messes up everything. Thanks Eldad ___

Re: [PD] data structures in abstractions

2012-11-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: eldad tsabary tazberryd...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 1:48 PM Subject: [PD] data structures in abstractions Hello all Is there a way to include a data structure graphical shape (filledpolygon for example) inside

Re: [PD] data structures in abstractions

2012-11-27 Thread eldad tsabary
Great It works fairly well with graph on parent of the subpatch (datawindow) However, if I try to make the entire patch into an abstraction and have a graph on parent of the main window containing the graph from the subpatch it doesn't work so well. It seems to display in another patch but

Re: [PD] data structures in abstractions

2012-11-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
- Original Message - From: eldad tsabary tazberryd...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2012 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [PD] data structures in abstractions G reat It works fairly well with graph on parent of the subpatch (datawindow) However, if I try to

Re: [PD] data structures in abstractions

2012-11-27 Thread eldad tsabary
Thanks Jonathan You are a magician. You said it works, so now it does no bugs. The only thing I can't get rid of is the datawindow name appearing in the graph on parent. No matter how many times I turn it off, once I save it and load it again, it comes back on. The name of the main graph on