Re: [PD] RRADical users: Memento changes
This is all quite good. But i have one comment wrt. the Black and White Dogma On 29/04/2007, at 17.58, Frank Barknecht wrote: The Black and White Dogma - [cnv] is bad, comment is good. In the reasoning from The Short Dogma it uses the argument that Pd is a graphical language, Pd patches aren't read word by word, but as as collection of object groups layed out in certain reoccuring patterns or idioms. why i think it make much sense to use coloured backgrounds (or [cnv]) as part of the graphical language to improve readability. It should of cause not conflict with the other dogma's, but instead be compared to using tab-indention in written code. My two bit. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RRADical users: Memento changes
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 05:58:17PM +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: The Trigger Dogma - Only a and b are allowed in trigger objects. I still don't get the rationale for this one. Besides the seperation of casting and routing, that Kyle mentioned: Why would anyone have to to use anything else in a trigger? One possible use for other arguments would be [t f l] when you're too lazy to use [list split 1] but that's not very readably IMO. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RRADical users: Memento changes
Hallo, Steffen hat gesagt: // Steffen wrote: This is all quite good. But i have one comment wrt. the Black and White Dogma On 29/04/2007, at 17.58, Frank Barknecht wrote: The Black and White Dogma - [cnv] is bad, comment is good. In the reasoning from The Short Dogma it uses the argument that Pd is a graphical language, Pd patches aren't read word by word, but as as collection of object groups layed out in certain reoccuring patterns or idioms. why i think it make much sense to use coloured backgrounds (or [cnv]) as part of the graphical language to improve readability. It should of cause not conflict with the other dogma's, but instead be compared to using tab-indention in written code. I forgot this one: Dogma Zero -- You should only follow your own Dogmata. Every self-respecting Dogma-collection has to be provocative (and shouldn't be taken too serious). The BW Dogma definitely is a style question. IMO color is best used to indicate where the action is: sliders, toggles etc. As a comment replacement [cnv] aren't that good, for one because you can_only_write_with_funny_underscores and more importantly, because they are cumbersome to create and edit. Comments should come easy, otherwise people won't comment. And for emphasising certain code paths, subpatches probably are even better: [inlet] | [pd filter-notes] | [pd transpose] | [pd harmonize] | [outlet] I guess I should extend the BW Dogma like this: The Black and White Dogma - [cnv] is bad. comment is good. [pd] is better. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Björk uses Pd, kind of
i've seen it at the cluib transmediale and it is still linux + pd under the hood. reactable was showing the pd window after the gui crashed. m. Am 30.04.2007 um 00:05 schrieb Frank Barknecht: Hallo, David Powers hat gesagt: // David Powers wrote: Hi Frank, what is the PD connection? What software does ReacTable run with - or does it work with more than one system? Well, AFAIK the reacTable software for the synthesizer and the dynamic patching is not available, so it might not be Pd anymore, but at least it somehow evolved from Pd: An early prototype of the reacTable was presented at the pd~convention in Graz 2004: http://puredata.info/community/projects/convention04/lectures/tk- geiger/ http://puredata.info/community/projects/convention04/chronik/ mittwoch/wuerfel Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RRADical users: Memento changes
On 30/04/2007, at 10.20, Frank Barknecht wrote: Dogma Zero -- You should only follow your own Dogmata. Surely. But sharing ideas about what is good still is a good thing. It helps form individual ideas about it. If a majority of folks agree on a certain style then it makes a(n unofficial) standard. Thats why i bumped in. And thanks again for sharing. Every self-respecting Dogma-collection has to be provocative (and shouldn't be taken too serious). As above. Of cause :-) The BW Dogma definitely is a style question I think it all is about style (with in (this) culture). IMO color is best used to indicate where the action is [...] Agreed. That's what i tent to do my self. And for emphasising certain code paths, subpatches probably are even better [...] Sometimes though im inconsistent with it, as I sometimes find it nice to have the guts right at hand, and at the same time have the conventional/obvious controls (for that given patch) highlighted. Also some help patches uses [cvn] quite clever to highlight and separate the object from the needed surroundings, which i a learning situation is better then hiding the surroundings in a subpatch. This makes this email a loop, as I'm now ready (or you/one might find it appropriate) to be refer me to Dogma Zero again. I'll exit the loop instead. Best, Steffen ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Berlin workshop: Crouching Table, Hidden Pointer
x workshops at pickledfeet, Berlin Linienstrasse 54, Berlin 10119 U2, Rosa-Luxemburg-Pl. U8, Rosenthaler Pl. telephone: 3050187482. 5th May 2007 2PM Please RSVP [EMAIL PROTECTED] to reserve places as these are limited *Crouching Table, Hidden Pointer--Pure Data for soundfiles and live sampling with Derek Holzer* The Shaolin Temple secret for manipulating recorded sound in Pure Data lies in the arcane arts of the Table. Seekers of enlightenment will be shown how to load soundfiles from the harddrive into tables, or capture live audio from the microphone, so that these sounds can be looped, stretched, pitchshifted, granulated and mangled. The Way is a long and dangerous one, and some basic understanding of PD is recommended, but some of you will triumph! Time will also be set aside for responding to participants' questions about their own PD audio projects. ---What to bring: Essential: 1) Laptop running Linux, OS X or Windows 2) Pure Data Extended installed from: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html 3) Soundcard (internal or external, quality a non-issue) 4) Headphones 5) EUR 10 participation fee Recommended/Suggested: 1) MIDI controller/keyboard 2) Microphone 3) USB Joystick 4) Your own soundfiles (WAV, AIFF format) 5) Your own PD audio projects for feedback ---About the Teacher Derek Holzer [USA 1972] began working with Pure Data in 2001. Since then, he has taught and performed with the program across Europe, North America, Brazil and New Zealand. His work focuses on field recording, networked collaboration strategies, experiments in improvisational sound and the use of free software such as Pure-Data. Holzer has released tracks under the Nexsound, Sirr, and/OAR, Frozen Elephants Music and Gruenrekorder labels, and has co-initiated several internet projects for field recording and collaborative soundscapes including Soundtransit.nl. He is currently writing a Pure Data beginner's manual for the FLOSS Manuals project. http://www.umatic.nl/info_derek.html http://www.umatic.nl/workshops.html http://www.flossmanuals.net/puredata (under development, feedback welcome) -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 72: Find a safe part and use it as an anchor ___ PD-announce mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dollar argument
Hallo, ronny vanden bempt hat gesagt: // ronny vanden bempt wrote: First a small question, that maybe you know: how can I reply to a message on the mailinglist, when I only receive digests? I don't know, this depends on your mailing software. You can always trim you quotes manually and CC the mail to pd-list@iem.at But then for the dollarsign: I put the object [symbol $1] between the bang and message box I use, but I still get an error. Now the error says: -window: no such object. Yeah, that's a problem when you don't supply any argument to the abstraction. Empty arguments are assumed to be 0 and thus you need to use [f $1] instead of [symbol $1]. Or use [symbol $1-window] with different message box contents or use the catch-all-types approach: [list append $1] Another possibility is to use a send-object instead of semicolon-messages. Sender objects are nicer anyways IMO. See attached patch for all this in action. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ dollars.pd Description: application/puredata dollars-help.pd Description: application/puredata ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RRADical users: Memento changes
Great news! On 4/28/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TODO: * Luke, I didn't forget about your svxdir changes, they will follow soon. Way cool. I have some further notes on the use of Polaroid in conjuction with Memento when working with many abstractions (and duplicates thereof). I'd maybe like to do an advanced RRadicalism document/patch, covering more advanced usage of the Memento objects and RRadical design - I've got a pretty complex setup at this point and it defintely required many aha moments to make it all work! That actually leads me to another proposition: further establishing some conventions for object collections with complex inter-routing, such as passing along $0s or /names to groups of objects. I haven't had time recently to work on my patches, so I'm a bit foggy as to what I'm saying here... Hopefully Chris or Frank will get the gist of what I'm talking about (from their own experience developing collections) to run with this ball : ). (Or, I'll come back in a few days after some reimmersion in my abstraction collection with a better developed proposal). Anyhow, glad to hear that Memento is getting attention! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] comments (was RRADical users: Memento changes)
Frank Barknecht wrote: Comments should come easy, otherwise people won't comment. with that in mind, why can't i write multi-line comments with newlines in them that actually stay newlines when i go and re-open the patch tomorrow? this makes me less likely to write verbose comments, knowing that i have to stop typing and go squiggle-5 mouse move click type at the end of every line. and it makes editing a complete cow. -- Damian Stewart f r e y live music with machines http://www.frey.co.nz http://www.myspace.com/freyed ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Writing OSC applications in XUL
On Sat, 2007-04-28 at 15:49 -0400, Stephen Sinclair wrote: Hi, is there a serialization for PD messages inside OSC? for example so one could load a webpage containing some XUL data hosted on padawan's site...it could check for a local PD instance, and shuttle the patch data over and open it.. If I understand you correctly, yes this is something I had in mind. Perhaps it could be used in a firefox extension instead of in a XULrunner app, so that you could browse to a server that hosts your audio interfaces. That would make setting up a networked audio system very nice and easy. I'm not sure how it would work exactly in terms of the Mozilla security architecture, however, since as I understand it, remotely loaded pages can't access XPCOM components. I'm really not an expert with Mozilla, so if anyone has ideas on how to accomplish something like that I'd all ears. yup, thats the same i encountered, if you want to easily connect to XPCOM with mozilla/firefox, you have to do that code as an extension. heres an old test that i made: http://www.osku.de/pd/foo/ff-pd_socket-example.png http://www.osku.de/pd/foo/ff-pd_socket-example.tar.gz Originally I wanted to do this is 100% javascript instead of having to create an XPCOM component, but it seems there is no way to have JS send UDP messages from a XUL app. As far I can tell anyways. here i started to try to make a SVGUI library for XULRunner and PD: http://www.osku.de/pd/libsvgui001.png http://www.osku.de/pd/libsvgui001.tar.gz .andre Steve ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem DL Out Of Date! - FTGL continued
Hi, I posted some q's about GEM and FTGL issues some weeks back. Cause I dont compile myself, I rely on the extended package. I couldnt find anything on the PD official web site for downloading the latest GEM. Nice enough though, someone pointed me to the GEM download centre, http://gem.iem.at/download.html I downloaded the latest OSX binaries. Then I replaced the gem_darwin inside the latest HCS package (open package contents). To my surprise it worked, but to my disappointment, its a 3 year old release! GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.90 release GEM: compiled: May 25 2004 Is there anywhere I can find a recent version of GEM, for OSX G4, that is compiled WITH FTGL? Well, thanks. Timon BotezCo Co/Timon Botez www.botezco.com ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X
quicktime in extended 39.2 is still not working. (codecs not recognized). marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I have updated the Fink package for libquicktime, so I'd like to know if this all works. Then it will be much easier to get pdp and pidip working on Mac OS X. .hc On Apr 28, 2007, at 2:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that has to do with libquicktime, use the one that is included with Sevvys stuff. the fink one is the problem. the only codec that works is Motion Jpeg pp ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] deja-vu font on os x
and btw, the boxsizes do not fit the text inside. see attachment. marius. marius schebella wrote: hi hans, with the new font I have the problem that when I click into an object the cursor shows up at some other position (more left). (39.2-rc2). osx 10.4.9 intel. marius. inline: boxsize.jpg___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] plugin~ bad screen distance (again)
Hi everybody, I'm struggling to get the plugin~ external working (to get LADSPA plugins in pd). Whenever I instanciate it in pd, I get an empty box with several inputs and outputs and an error message in the console about bad screen distance. It also corrupts every single other node I create after that (all of them appear blank and output similar error messages). I quickly searched the archive and have seen that several users have had the same problem, and that for some, unsetting the LANG environment variable fixed the problem, but not for everybody. Unfortunately, I belong to the latter category. Has anybody found since another workaround ? Btw this happens using pd 0.40.2 under Linux with plugin~ from some pd-extended 0.40 release (I think 0.40.0 but I'm not 100% sure). Cheers ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] memory leak in pd gui?
Here's an example patch that showed pd-gui using 80% of the memory after about 7 hours. The patch simply writes numbers to the Pd console. I'm now wondering if the problem is not a memory leak but that the console display buffer has no size limitation, it appears. This is a x686 CPU, pd-vanilla. -John Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Do you have an example patch that causes this? Which CPU type? pd-vanilla or pd-extended? .hc On Apr 28, 2007, at 3:53 PM, John Harrison wrote: I am running Pd 0.39-2 on ubuntu Dapper. It seems as though if I leave Pd running for more than several days, the entire computer freezes or becomes sluggish to the point of being unusable. I can hear the disk thrashing like crazy. By setting up a cron job writing ps -auxw to a new time-stamped file in a directory every 5 minutes, I can clearly see by looking at these files that the problem is that Pd slowly but surely eats all the memory resources of the machine. If I run the same patch with the nogui option, the problem disappears. The thing is, I need to run this patch indefinitely *and* I need the gui. Am I seeing a memory leak in the gui and is this a known problem? -John ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list All information should be free. - the hacker ethic #N canvas 0 0 450 300 10; #X obj 171 174 mod 10; #X obj 138 146 +; #X msg 154 119 1; #X obj 118 93 t f f; #X obj 118 69 int; #X obj 136 205 print; #X obj 92 17 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X msg 118 10 stop; #X obj 107 42 metro 1; #X connect 0 0 4 1; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 1 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 1 1; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 3 1 2 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 6 0 8 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 4 0; ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] memory leak in pd gui?
Hallo, John Harrison hat gesagt: // John Harrison wrote: Here's an example patch that showed pd-gui using 80% of the memory after about 7 hours. The patch simply writes numbers to the Pd console. I'm now wondering if the problem is not a memory leak but that the console display buffer has no size limitation, it appears. You can disable use of the Pd window console using the -stderr command line option. I have it in my ~/.pdrc Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ bad screen distance (again)
Since this only appears to happen with non-English language systems, is it possible to set LANG to English? d. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everybody, I'm struggling to get the plugin~ external working (to get LADSPA plugins in pd). Whenever I instanciate it in pd, I get an empty box with several inputs and outputs and an error message in the console about bad screen distance. It also corrupts every single other node I create after that (all of them appear blank and output similar error messages). I quickly searched the archive and have seen that several users have had the same problem, and that for some, unsetting the LANG environment variable fixed the problem, but not for everybody. Unfortunately, I belong to the latter category. Has anybody found since another workaround ? Btw this happens using pd 0.40.2 under Linux with plugin~ from some pd-extended 0.40 release (I think 0.40.0 but I'm not 100% sure). Cheers ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 136: Remove specifics and convert to ambiguities ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] deja-vu font on os x
On 30/04/2007, at 15.33, marius schebella wrote: and btw, the boxsizes do not fit the text inside. see attachment. marius. marius schebella wrote: hi hans, with the new font I have the problem that when I click into an object the cursor shows up at some other position (more left). (39.2-rc2). osx 10.4.9 intel. I can not reproduce that. I used RC2 of the 30th. Did you install the fonts? The same two bugs have been through the tracker just recently but was closed due to fix. Btw, I didn't know about RC2, so thanks for the info. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ bad screen distance (again)
Le Lundi 30 Avril 2007 17:15, Derek Holzer a écrit : Since this only appears to happen with non-English language systems, is it possible to set LANG to English? I tried with LANG set to fr_FR, en_EN, C and not set at all, none of them worked. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ bad screen distance (again)
Could you describe how you set the variable... i.e. locally in the terminal with export, or globally in some conf file and env update, etc etc? Maybe there was an error there... best, d. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Lundi 30 Avril 2007 17:15, Derek Holzer a écrit : Since this only appears to happen with non-English language systems, is it possible to set LANG to English? I tried with LANG set to fr_FR, en_EN, C and not set at all, none of them worked. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 177: What is the reality of the situation? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ bad screen distance (again)
Le Lundi 30 Avril 2007 19:07, Derek Holzer a écrit : Could you describe how you set the variable... i.e. locally in the terminal with export, or globally in some conf file and env update, etc etc? Maybe there was an error there... Using setenv LANG whatever since I'm using tcsh instead of bash. I echo'ed the variable to doublecheck that it was correctly set before lauching. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ bad screen distance (again)
Derek Holzer schreef: Could you describe how you set the variable... i.e. locally in the terminal with export, or globally in some conf file and env update, etc etc? Maybe there was an error there... best, d. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Le Lundi 30 Avril 2007 17:15, Derek Holzer a écrit : Since this only appears to happen with non-English language systems, is it possible to set LANG to English? I tried with LANG set to fr_FR, en_EN, C and not set at all, none of them worked. i just do unset LANG in a terminal and then start pd, which works for me. m -- http://www.mprims.net ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Use of toggle?
I'm using PD to do sound filtering and analysis would like to have the live audio passed along only at certain points. That is, the output from adc~ will sometimes continue on to other patches and sometimes I want it to stop. I was hoping to use toggle, but misunderstood how it works as it seems to become toggled for *any* input, not just bangs. I was hoping it would stay untoggled, and not allow the input to be sent through the output. What I would like is to be able to have a toggle (or other patch) that, when on, allows the input stream to continue through and, when off, does not pass anything through its output. I feel like this should be a simple task, but I've been struggling and I'm still not sure how to do it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! -Jared ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] plugin~ bad screen distance (again)
Le Lundi 30 Avril 2007 16:37, Kevin McCoy a écrit : Have you tried using Jamie's [dssi~] ; I haven't used it but it sounds like it's good. It works for ladspa and dssi plugins I didn't know that. I downloaded it and compiled it, but it crashes pd everytime I try to launch it, be it with a ladspa plugin or a dssi plugin (I tried with hexter). In the first case, the pd window closes instantly, whereas in the second it stays open (but doesn't do anything if I try to launch something from the menu) and the console tells me that pd segfaulted. I have to kill the plugin process(es) to close the pd window. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Use of toggle?
by 'input stream', you mean an audio signal? [adc~] [tgl] | / [*~ ] | is that, what you are looking for? roman On Mon, 2007-04-30 at 13:48 -0500, Jared wrote: I'm using PD to do sound filtering and analysis would like to have the live audio passed along only at certain points. That is, the output from adc~ will sometimes continue on to other patches and sometimes I want it to stop. I was hoping to use toggle, but misunderstood how it works as it seems to become toggled for *any* input, not just bangs. I was hoping it would stay untoggled, and not allow the input to be sent through the output. What I would like is to be able to have a toggle (or other patch) that, when on, allows the input stream to continue through and, when off, does not pass anything through its output. I feel like this should be a simple task, but I've been struggling and I'm still not sure how to do it. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! -Jared ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Universal synth editor
Let me know when I can edit my TX81z with pd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malte Steiner Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 3:02 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Universal synth editor I am still mad at Apple that they abandoned SoundDiver, I invested quite some money in Emagic stuff for my studiorig and it is still working but deadend now. This was one of the events which brought me to Linux and opensource software in general. So go for the synth editor, I have the same in mind. The SoundDiver adaptions might be good for reverse engineering and I think the simpler ones should be rather easy to translate to pd, but SoundDiver had some neat special editors for complex synths like Waldorf Microwave or Kawai K5 / 5000 synths which would be harder to recreate. Cheers, Malte -- Malte Steiner media art + development -www.block4.com- ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Use of toggle?
Jared wrote: I'm using PD to do sound filtering and analysis would like to have the live audio passed along only at certain points. That is, the output from adc~ will sometimes continue on to other patches and sometimes I want it to stop. I was hoping to use toggle, but misunderstood how it works as it seems to become toggled for *any* input, not just bangs. I was hoping it would stay untoggled, and not allow the input to be sent through the output. the good news is: toggle does what it should (toggle). it is not cumbered by other functionality (like filtering out non-bangs) (the bad news is that [tgl] understands far too many messages besides [bang(, but do not let us bother with that) so in order to achieve what you want, you just have to make sure, that the messages you don't want to interfere with toggle don't get to the object. there are several message filters that come with pd, the most simple would be: | [route bang] | [tg] | so all non-bang messages get discarded by the [route] object, and the tgl can happily react to whatever message comes in. mfg.asd IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] comments (was RRADical users: Memento changes)
(applause) ~Kyle On 4/30/07, Damian Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Barknecht wrote: Comments should come easy, otherwise people won't comment. with that in mind, why can't i write multi-line comments with newlines in them that actually stay newlines when i go and re-open the patch tomorrow? this makes me less likely to write verbose comments, knowing that i have to stop typing and go squiggle-5 mouse move click type at the end of every line. and it makes editing a complete cow. -- Damian Stewart f r e y live music with machines http://www.frey.co.nz http://www.myspace.com/freyed ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com (()()()(()))()()())( (())(())()((( ))(__ _())(()))___ (((000)))oOO ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dollar argument
There is also the overlooked very powerful [dollarg] from iemlib that converts all your arguments into a list. I even made an abstraction that can parse arguments by name like in Jitter. For example, [dollars @currency canadian @exchange_rate 1.87 @output km] could also be written [dollars @output km @exchange_rate 1.87 @currency canadian] Anyway, dollarg rocks. Tom On 4/30/07, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, ronny vanden bempt hat gesagt: // ronny vanden bempt wrote: First a small question, that maybe you know: how can I reply to a message on the mailinglist, when I only receive digests? I don't know, this depends on your mailing software. You can always trim you quotes manually and CC the mail to pd-list@iem.at But then for the dollarsign: I put the object [symbol $1] between the bang and message box I use, but I still get an error. Now the error says: -window: no such object. Yeah, that's a problem when you don't supply any argument to the abstraction. Empty arguments are assumed to be 0 and thus you need to use [f $1] instead of [symbol $1]. Or use [symbol $1-window] with different message box contents or use the catch-all-types approach: [list append $1] Another possibility is to use a send-object instead of semicolon-messages. Sender objects are nicer anyways IMO. See attached patch for all this in action. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org_ __goto10.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd-extended and Windows Media Player Classic issue
Hello, I've made a small VJ utility with Gem and sent it to a friend, who has then installed Pd-extended on his Windows XP machine (Pd-0.39.2-extended-RC1-windowsxp-i386.exe). After doing that, he has problems with Windows Media Player Classic, that he uses with DivX, Xvid, RealAlternative and QuicktimeAlternative codecs. My guess is, that Pd-extended installs dll files that overwrite the previously installed codecs. Is this a known issue/bug and can he safely install the old codecs again? I'm guessing that, because Gem cannot read any movie file, and that seems to be the same problem with WMPC now. Thanks, Thomas -- Prisons are needed only to provide the illusion that courts and police are effective. They're a kind of job insurance. (Leto II. in: Frank Herbert, God Emperor of Dune) http://thomas.dergrossebruder.org/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended and Windows Media Player Classic issue
Thomas Mayer wrote: I'm guessing that, because Gem cannot read any movie file, and that seems to be the same problem with WMPC now. I meant that Gem has problems with some movie files and that seems to be the case with WMPC. cu Thomas -- Prisons are needed only to provide the illusion that courts and police are effective. They're a kind of job insurance. (Leto II. in: Frank Herbert, God Emperor of Dune) http://thomas.dergrossebruder.org/ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] deja-vu font on os x
Yes, the problem occurs with today's autobuild (30th). strange. it still looks like in the jpeg I posted earlier. marius. Steffen wrote: On 30/04/2007, at 15.33, marius schebella wrote: and btw, the boxsizes do not fit the text inside. see attachment. marius. marius schebella wrote: hi hans, with the new font I have the problem that when I click into an object the cursor shows up at some other position (more left). (39.2-rc2). osx 10.4.9 intel. I can not reproduce that. I used RC2 of the 30th. Did you install the fonts? The same two bugs have been through the tracker just recently but was closed due to fix. Btw, I didn't know about RC2, so thanks for the info. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] comport and bluetooth
another thing I found out today is, that comport does not like the bluetooth turned on (macos 10.4.9). when I have bluetoth running (icon in the menubar...) comport and crashes - that means the patch freezes and has to be killed. for example when you want to print the devices... that happened with 0.39.2 and 0.40.2. marius. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Use of toggle?
Thanks for the replies. I think that I wasn't clear enough, however. I'm trying to have sound information displayed as follows (specifically the filtered amplitude, but lets pretend it's just the amplitude) [adc~] | [env~] | [(number)] What i'd like to do is something along the lines of [adc~] | [env~] | [toggle] | [(number)] So that the env~ information is only passed along when the toggle is checked, and if the user unchecks it the env~ info is *not* passed. I'm beginning to think toggle is the wrong tool for this job, and would appreciate any other suggestions. Likewise, I'd be happy to go into more detail if this is still not clear. Thanks again for all your help, -Jared ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Use of toggle?
have you looked at [spigot] ? that sounds (to me) like it might be what you want. best, p Original Message Subject: Re: [PD] Use of toggle? From: Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, April 30, 2007 10:08 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], pd-list@iem.at Thanks for the replies. I think that I wasn't clear enough, however. I'm trying to have sound information displayed as follows (specifically the filtered amplitude, but lets pretend it's just the amplitude) [adc~] | [env~] | [(number)] What i'd like to do is something along the lines of [adc~] | [env~] | [toggle] | [(number)] So that the env~ information is only passed along when the toggle is checked, and if the user unchecks it the env~ info is *not* passed. I'm beginning to think toggle is the wrong tool for this job, and would appreciate any other suggestions. Likewise, I'd be happy to go into more detail if this is still not clear. Thanks again for all your help, -Jared ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Use of toggle?
Hi Jared, On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 01:48:33PM -0500, Jared wrote: What I would like is to be able to have a toggle (or other patch) that, when on, allows the input stream to continue through and, when off, does not pass anything through its output. Toggle itself doesn't do filtering - the inlet is so you can turn it on and off or set the value. What you want to do is to use the toggle to interrupt the flow. Roman posted the solution for doing this with an audio stream. If you're filtering a message or control stream instead replace the [*~] with a [spigot]. The right inlet of spigot determines what goes through from the left inlet to the left outlet. Best, Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for PDP testing on Mac OS X
Hmm, guess libquicktime isn't working with libavcodec. Does MJPEG work? .hc On Apr 30, 2007, at 7:37 PM, marius schebella wrote: using the nightly autobuild from april 30th, I am still not able to load moviefiles into pdp_qt. Am I doing something wrong? should I try to compile myself? marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I have updated the Fink package for libquicktime, so I'd like to know if this all works. Then it will be much easier to get pdp and pidip working on Mac OS X. .hc On Apr 28, 2007, at 2:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that has to do with libquicktime, use the one that is included with Sevvys stuff. the fink one is the problem. the only codec that works is Motion Jpeg pp ¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido! ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Use of toggle?
Thanks a ton! That worked beautifully. -Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: have you looked at [spigot] ? that sounds (to me) like it might be what you want. best, p ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
