[PD] theming with patch

2007-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
So I quickly hacked together something so that you can theme the new color scheme yourself in a patch: chc.pd Description: Binary data themer.pd Description: Binary data I am sure there are bugs, but it's fun nonetheless. :D You need today's autobuild or later, put both files in a fo

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 5, 2007, at 12:36 AM, Patrice Colet wrote: > Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > >> I added variables in pd.tk so you can edit that if you want to >> make your own theme. >> .hc > > hi, is there a way for having a different font color? > I'd like to patch with a black background and whi

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Patrice Colet
Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : > I added variables in pd.tk so you can edit that if you want to make > your own theme. > > .hc > hi, is there a way for having a different font color? I'd like to patch with a black background and white fonts. ___

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, marius schebella wrote: in case you have not seen this yet.. (max toolbox) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9064204491926904985 Yes, there was a talk about a Pd version of this, at PdConvention2007. Were you there? :} _ _ __ ___ _ _ _

[PD] 3 1/2 shaders help!

2007-11-04 Thread marius schebella
hey, I was working on shaders recently and put some stuff online http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/Pd/4shaders shader #3 is the most advanced, uses a normal map texture. but I am still running into problems when using multiple shaders. the problem (again) is, that gl_MultiTexCoords1 does not

Re: [PD] no focus for gemwin on os x 10.5

2007-11-04 Thread chris clepper
It's pd and not GEM that takes care of the window focus. Maybe Rez no longers works on 10.5? On 11/4/07, marius schebella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > hi, > somehow gemwin does not take the focus anymore with the newest release > of the highly praised OS X. when I click on it, it just stays in

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread marius schebella
hey mathieu, in case you have not seen this yet.. (max toolbox) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9064204491926904985 marius. Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: > >> I look at this as the equivalent of properly indented code; a feature >> I'd really appr

Re: [PD] no focus for gemwin on os x 10.5

2007-11-04 Thread marius schebella
with apple click, I can move it, but it stays in the background. m. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > woot... fun try cmd-click to move it. > > And please file a bug report. > > .hc > > On Nov 4, 2007, at 3:45 PM, marius schebella wrote: > >> hi, >> somehow gemwin does not take the focus

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 4 Nov 2007, Steffen Juul wrote: On 04/11/2007, at 17.21, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Avoid BWidget and Iwidgets since those aren't currently included in Pd's Tcl/Tk. Does anyone know of alternative "tricks" wrt. building tab'ed windows? Pd-extended's build system could also bundle s

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: I look at this as the equivalent of properly indented code; a feature I'd really appreciate is the equivalent of auto-indenting since I obsessively line up my Pd patches. I thought about auto-positioning of objects and figured out that a way to co

Re: [PD] Crash in Leopard

2007-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Please file a bug report in the tracker: http://puredata.info/dev/bugtracker .hc On Nov 4, 2007, at 1:56 PM, marius schebella wrote: > hey, > apple was so nice to send me a 10.5 install dvd, and I can confirm > that > pd-extended crashes when I want to open the help menu. (pd-vanilla > 0.40-

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 4, 2007, at 3:12 PM, ilya .д wrote: > On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:12:40PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: >> There's a lot of "-background white" or "-borderwidth 1" there, which >> would become: "-background $theme_bgcolor" or "-borderwidth >> $theme_bwidth" etc. The theme config file then w

Re: [PD] no focus for gemwin on os x 10.5

2007-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
woot... fun try cmd-click to move it. And please file a bug report. .hc On Nov 4, 2007, at 3:45 PM, marius schebella wrote: > hi, > somehow gemwin does not take the focus anymore with the newest release > of the highly praised OS X. when I click on it, it just stays in the > back. I can't

Re: [PD] [-SPAM-] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread marius schebella
Hi, there is no macintel autobuild from today. marius. Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > On Nov 3, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Jamie Bullock wrote: > >> On Sat, 2007-11-03 at 14:24 -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> I think there is a lot that could be done to the look and feel of Pd >>> that would mak

Re: [PD] Ubuntu gutsy & Debian testing test release

2007-11-04 Thread olsen wolf
heppo on startup on a fresh gutsy install i get this error : PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pidip.pd_linux: libjasper-1.701.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory pidip: can't load library setting up Ruby-for-PureData... gues it's caused

Re: [PD] Installing pd-extended in ubuntu on a computer with no internet connection

2007-11-04 Thread David NG McCallum
Thanks for the suggestions. I had a feeling that's what I'd have to do... Hoped there'd be a more automatic way of doing it... oh well. Thanks! D On 03/11/2007, Hans-Christoph Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That's what I would do as well. > > .hc > > > On Nov 3, 2007, at 10:32 PM, Kevin

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread ilya .d
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 09:47:08PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > ilya .?? hat gesagt: // ilya .?? wrote: > > > > The file "theme_from_commandline" would just need to specify > > > variables in tcl-syntax: > > > > > > set theme_bgcolor grey > > > set theme_bwidth 2 > > > ...

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread marius schebella
Hi, I did not disagree with you. I just wanted to add some thoughts. let me explain again. one of the thoughts is, that I think there is a difference between the "programmer" (the one that writes a patch) and the "user". these two types need different features of gui improvement. the programmer

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 15:25 -0500, marius schebella wrote: > I think it is amazing how much you and pdmtl are able to get out of pd, > but (and sorry I don't know how to put this diplomaticly) I think these > interfaces are at least 2 generations away from what a good interface > could look lik

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread ilya .d
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 03:25:38PM -0500, marius schebella wrote: > but think! - and don't get me wrong, because I know that your work is > not recognized and valued enough - given the hours that you put into > netpd and given the accessability of Pd in general I would assume this > application

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote: > The gui has to be a mixture of both, 1) providing style options for > programmers who want to make use of it and 2) the possibility to view > patches also in old "text-only" black and white style for users that are > distracted by

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, ilya .?? hat gesagt: // ilya .?? wrote: > > The file "theme_from_commandline" would just need to specify > > variables in tcl-syntax: > > > > set theme_bgcolor grey > > set theme_bwidth 2 > > ... > that's what i was just meaning at the top of the thread somewhere . Yes, sorry,

[PD] no focus for gemwin on os x 10.5

2007-11-04 Thread marius schebella
hi, somehow gemwin does not take the focus anymore with the newest release of the highly praised OS X. when I click on it, it just stays in the back. I can't move it. also, topmost 1 does not work. anything else I can try? I am using gem 0.91 from cvs (oct 26). marius. __

Re: [PD] debugging techniques/tricks for a non-developer?

2007-11-04 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 3 Nov 2007, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: However, there are situations in which I can't even isolate the problem and that's scary because if you don't know what conditions trigger the bug/issue, run pd inside valgrind. it slows down pd by 50 times or so, but it checks a lot more memory a

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread marius schebella
Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:36 -0500, marius schebella wrote: >> The gui has to be a mixture of both, > > "bamm.. here i am and i know _exactly_, what needs to be done... " > i like your diplomatic way ;-) you think I am diplomatic? I take that as a compliment... >> Use some

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread ilya .d
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:20:47PM +0100, Steffen Juul wrote: > > On 04/11/2007, at 17.21, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > Avoid BWidget and Iwidgets since those aren't currently included in > > Pd's Tcl/Tk. > > Does anyone know of alternative "tricks" wrt. building tab'ed windows? just u

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread ilya . д
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 07:12:40PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > There's a lot of "-background white" or "-borderwidth 1" there, which > would become: "-background $theme_bgcolor" or "-borderwidth > $theme_bwidth" etc. The theme config file then would just need to be > included from pd.tk with so

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 13:36 -0500, marius schebella wrote: > The gui has to be a mixture of both, "bamm.. here i am and i know _exactly_, what needs to be done... " i like your diplomatic way ;-) > 1) providing style options for > programmers who want to make use of it and 2) the possibility

Re: [PD] Crash in Leopard

2007-11-04 Thread marius schebella
hey, apple was so nice to send me a 10.5 install dvd, and I can confirm that pd-extended crashes when I want to open the help menu. (pd-vanilla 0.40-2 works fine, hehe...) all pd-e versions that I tested crashed (0.39.3, 0.40.3 from 08/31 and even the one from oct26!) marius. Luke Iannini (pd)

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread marius schebella
The gui has to be a mixture of both, 1) providing style options for programmers who want to make use of it and 2) the possibility to view patches also in old "text-only" black and white style for users that are distracted by too much new technology and design. I think it is similar to web brows

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Steffen Juul
On 04/11/2007, at 17.21, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > Avoid BWidget and Iwidgets since those aren't currently included in > Pd's Tcl/Tk. Does anyone know of alternative "tricks" wrt. building tab'ed windows? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBS

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Steffen Juul hat gesagt: // Steffen Juul wrote: > On 04/11/2007, at 12.03, Frank Barknecht wrote: > >I very much support that approach. > > I also think preferences/themes are a good ide. This could quickly > become the bike shred colouring story over again. > > >The only way a GUI over

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > I'll add -vanillagui to set the old colors. As I wrote in my mail, I don't think using command line options in this fashion is a good idea. It's not maintainable. It forces people to choose either A or B, when they actu

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 4, 2007, at 12:25 AM, Luke Iannini (pd) wrote: DesireData has much more substantial and interesting changes than the colors and backgrounds. it is also, unfortunately, not at a fully usable state yet. Since there were 50,000+ downloads of the previous version of Pd-extended ( 0.38

Re: [PD] puredata and mathematica

2007-11-04 Thread Thomas Grill
Thomas Grill schrieb: > oyuki schrieb: > >> hi is it possible to connect pd with wolframs mathematica ? this >> software has a data protocol called mathelink is it possible to receive >> data from that in pd? >> >> >> > Hi, there's a mathlink module for Python, which you could use with t

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 4, 2007, at 6:03 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: > >> Almost all visual improvements are going to be subjective. That is to >> say, for every suggestion someone makes along the lines of visual >> changes to Pd, there will be many

Re: [PD] new pd wiki - practical data - includes forum

2007-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Nov 3, 2007, at 2:54 PM, Chuckk Hubbard wrote: On 11/3/07, Steffen Juul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 03/11/2007, at 8.02, hard off wrote: > i just set up a new wiki for pd, aimed at providing a simple and easy > way for pd users to share their patches / tutorials, etc... There is also

Re: [PD] puredata and mathematica

2007-11-04 Thread Thomas Grill
oyuki schrieb: > hi is it possible to connect pd with wolframs mathematica ? this > software has a data protocol called mathelink is it possible to receive > data from that in pd? > > Hi, there's a mathlink module for Python, which you could use with the py/pyext external. http://library.wolfra

Re: [PD] puredata and mathematica

2007-11-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
If that mathelink uses a TCP or UDP socket, then it should be pretty straightforward, as long as their protocol isn't too complicated. Check out these objects: tcpclient/tcpserver .hc On Nov 4, 2007, at 5:54 AM, oyuki wrote: > hi is it possible to connect pd with wolframs mathematica ? this

Re: [PD] little things

2007-11-04 Thread ilya .d
On Sun, Nov 04, 2007 at 12:07:05PM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > ilya .d hat gesagt: // ilya .d wrote: > > > isn't it right, that we should use [i] instead of [f] every time making > > a counter which won't ever think of something in between 0 and 1 or 2 > > and 3 ..!! > > IMO all coun

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Steffen Juul
On 04/11/2007, at 12.03, Frank Barknecht wrote: > I very much support that approach. I also think preferences/themes are a good ide. This could quickly become the bike shred colouring story over again. > The only way a GUI overhaul can work in the long run IMO is to make a > configuration syst

Re: [PD] new pd wiki - practical data - includes forum

2007-11-04 Thread Enrique Erne
On Sam Nov 3 19:54 , "Chuckk Hubbard" sent: >On 11/3/07, Steffen Juul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On 03/11/2007, at 8.02, hard off wrote: > >> i just set up a new wiki for pd, aimed at providing a simple and easy >> way for pd users to share their patches / tutorials, etc... > >There is also

Re: [PD] little things

2007-11-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, ilya .d hat gesagt: // ilya .d wrote: > isn't it right, that we should use [i] instead of [f] every time making > a counter which won't ever think of something in between 0 and 1 or 2 > and 3 ..!! IMO all counters should count in whole numbers and be scaled afterwards. If your counter is b

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Chris McCormick hat gesagt: // Chris McCormick wrote: > Almost all visual improvements are going to be subjective. That is to > say, for every suggestion someone makes along the lines of visual > changes to Pd, there will be many people for the change and many people > against. For that rea

Re: [PD] changing the look of Pd to be more readable

2007-11-04 Thread Patrice Colet
Hi, this is not necesserarily more readable with it, but how one can change font color in a patch? ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

[PD] puredata and mathematica

2007-11-04 Thread oyuki
hi is it possible to connect pd with wolframs mathematica ? this software has a data protocol called mathelink is it possible to receive data from that in pd? thanks -- oyuki [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Choose from over 50 domains or use your own __