Re: [PD] Fwd: finding the cause of clicks when using sssad WAS: saving state of a patch

2008-07-24 Thread Chris McCormick
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 04:21:54PM +0100, Si Mills wrote: I hope im not misunderstanding, but doesn't the s-abstraction way of using 'datastore' to change presets eliminate dropouts - Why is there a need for a ram disk? I mean is there a lag between hitting the giant message box and

Re: [PD] PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs driven, by modulating accelerometer signals

2008-07-24 Thread Collin Oldham
I think you are getting those crackles from the atoms (number boxes) that are trying to redraw every time they get a new number from the accelerometers. (which is probably pretty often!) That would explain why it only happens you are using the sensors, and why your very sensible solutions

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc4 released

2008-07-24 Thread Enrique Erne
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It's looking quite stable, so please try it if you haven't already so we can find the last bugs. As far as I know, there aren't any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release. Hi Hans I tested netpd with pd-extended-rc4 from at.or.at. all works

Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?

2008-07-24 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
Solen Music wrote: is there anything i can do to save on RAM?? PD uses 32bits natively (unless you compiled it especially for 64bit), so the iem16 stuff would halve the amount of RAM required, but at the slight expense of audio quality (doesn't matter if your files loaded into tables are

Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?

2008-07-24 Thread Solen Music
thanks hard and claude. i will try both of those things. also. is there anyway to speed up the loading time of the arrays? it seems to take a good few minutes at the moment? where can i find iem16 ? I see that it's not in iemlib, or am i missing something? 2008/7/24 Claude Heiland-Allen

Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?

2008-07-24 Thread Solen Music
okay. i found iem16 at ftp://ftp.iem.at/pub/pd/Externals/ (duh! the giveaway was the iem bit). it seems to run okay on my windows machine. but is the only way to load something into the table16 object by copying from a regular pd array? i'm trying to patch up a scratch pd array which every

Re: [PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs driven by modulating accelerometer signals

2008-07-24 Thread Andy Farnell
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:22:47 +0900 hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by the way, is it even possible to get clicks when rapidly changing osc~ speeds? i didn't think it was, and i have never experienced that. Think of the modulating signal as a triangle wave altering the frequency of

[PD] Gem seg fault on exit

2008-07-24 Thread Oded Ben-Tal
Pd comes crushing down with a Seg fault everytime I close the gem window (sending destroy message after I stop the rendering). I'm running Pd0.39.3-extended-rc5 Gem 0.91-cvs On Linux FC8 (planetCCRMA packages). I tried to see if the simplest Gem examples seg fault on exit and they do. --

Re: [PD] Gem seg fault on exit

2008-07-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Oded Ben-Tal wrote: Pd comes crushing down with a Seg fault everytime I close the gem window (sending destroy message after I stop the rendering). I'm running Pd0.39.3-extended-rc5 Gem 0.91-cvs On Linux FC8 (planetCCRMA packages). I tried to see if the simplest Gem examples seg fault on

Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?

2008-07-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Solen Music wrote: okay. i found iem16 at ftp://ftp.iem.at/pub/pd/Externals/ (duh! the giveaway was the iem bit). it seems to run okay on my windows machine. well, like all of our open-source externals, iem16 can also be found in the pure-data repository:

Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?

2008-07-24 Thread Michal Seta
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 4:52 AM, Solen Music [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also. is there anyway to speed up the loading time of the arrays? it seems to take a good few minutes at the moment? A trick I use to speed up loading samples into arrays is use [readsf~] with [tabwrite~] in an abstraction

Re: [PD] Fwd: finding the cause of clicks when using sssad WAS: saving state of a patch

2008-07-24 Thread Atte André Jensen
Frank Barknecht wrote: I would recommend to preload all textfiles that should be streamed to [sssad] into memory. Under linux I think cat *.sssad_states.txt /dev/null will do. -- peace, love harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk |

Re: [PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs, driven by modulating accelerometer signals

2008-07-24 Thread Andy Farnell
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:41:34 +1000 Darren Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There isn't just 1 [osc~] object in the whole system, there are (at least) 6, 3 for each of 2 triaxial accelerometers. Did you remember to rescale the output {*~ 0.166] ? It might just be clipping at the DAC when

Re: [PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs, driven by modulating accelerometer signals

2008-07-24 Thread Andy Farnell
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:41:34 +1000 Darren Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There isn't just 1 [osc~] object in the whole system, there are (at least) 6, 3 for each of 2 triaxial accelerometers. Did you remember to rescale the output [*~ 0.166] ? It might just be clipping at the DAC when

Re: [PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs driven by modulating accelerometer signals

2008-07-24 Thread marius schebella
Andy Farnell wrote: On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:22:47 +0900 hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: by the way, is it even possible to get clicks when rapidly changing osc~ speeds? i didn't think it was, and i have never experienced that. Think of the modulating signal as a triangle wave altering

Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?

2008-07-24 Thread Solen Music
okay i've found a neat way of loading all the files into the table16's using a makefilename loop. my problem now is that i can't seem to play them because my player patch needs to know the size of each table16 when it calls for it. i've tried using arraysize and the expr size($s1) objects but

Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?

2008-07-24 Thread Solen Music
or, maybe a pitchable table16 reader that automatically loops back to the start upon reaching the end of the table16?? again, thanks. 2008/7/24 Solen Music [EMAIL PROTECTED]: okay i've found a neat way of loading all the files into the table16's using a makefilename loop. my problem now is

Re: [PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs driven by modulating accelerometer signals

2008-07-24 Thread hard off
a jump down to 0 wouldn't cause any problems though, the oscillator's waveform would just flatline for a moment. and in the tests i just did, only very significant jumps, like from 100hz to 2hz caused major clickiness. i think it is pretty safe to say that the speed of the oscillator isn't

Re: [PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs, driven by modulating accelerometer signals

2008-07-24 Thread Darren Kelly
hard off wrote: if you attach a [dac~] directly to the osc~ object, do you still get crackles? There isn't just 1 [osc~] object in the whole system, there are (at least) 6, 3 for each of 2 triaxial accelerometers. If I try an [osc~] into a [dac~] independently there is no problem (driven

Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?

2008-07-24 Thread hard off
i would assume that the size of the [table16] tables would just be half of the original tables that soundfiler creates.. so, if you have your [table16] objects indexed with integers (and i guess you do if you have 1400 of them), then you would just take the original array size, halve it, and then

Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?

2008-07-24 Thread hard off
sorry, the overuse of the words 'table' and 'array' in my last post make it quite hard to understand. but i promise it works. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Save RAM memory usage ?

2008-07-24 Thread Solen Music
ah indeed. a table of the array sizes. i'll get on that. until now i've been grabbing the array size (using [arraysize] external) on the fly whenever an array was called into tabread4~ thanks! 2008/7/24 hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED]: i would assume that the size of the [table16] tables would just

Re: [PD] Wii remote and PD on windows - is it possible?

2008-07-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey, Some people in a workshop I taught were trying to use this with Pd- extended. It crashes Pd-extended, but not Pd-vanilla. I went to try to debug it, but I couldn't find any source code. Is it available anywhere? .hc On May 8, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Luiz Naveda wrote: Dear Thomas

Re: [PD] Wii remote and PD on windows - is it possible?

2008-07-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I know this is an old thread, but I discovered the answer to this, so I thought I'd post it: you need to use BlueSoleil or some app like that to do the pairing. .hc On May 10, 2008, at 7:53 AM, Thomas Jeppesen wrote: Thanks Luiz, I downloadet this external and had it up and running. My

Re: [PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs driven by modulating accelerometer signals

2008-07-24 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, hard off hat gesagt: // hard off wrote: i think it is pretty safe to say that the speed of the oscillator isn't what is is causing these clicks. Jumps (discontinuities) in a signal are the most nasty cause for clicks, while corners are generally harmless, if they aren't too sharp.

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc4 released

2008-07-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Jul 24, 2008, at 4:00 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It's looking quite stable, so please try it if you haven't already so we can find the last bugs. As far as I know, there aren't any outstanding bugs that need to be fixed for this release. Hi Hans I tested

Re: [PD] PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs driven, by modulating accelerometer signals

2008-07-24 Thread Darren Kelly
Hi PD list, I have uploaded an example of the problem as about 20 rather unmusical seconds of me waving 1 Wiimote as accelerometer driving frequencies of 3 [osc~], almost nothing else running, and no visuals, sliders, atoms:

Re: [PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs driven by modulating accelerometer signals

2008-07-24 Thread marius schebella
Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, hard off hat gesagt: // hard off wrote: i think it is pretty safe to say that the speed of the oscillator isn't what is is causing these clicks. Jumps (discontinuities) in a signal are the most nasty cause for clicks, while corners are generally harmless, if

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc4 released

2008-07-24 Thread Matthew Logan
Should the latest Gem be in here? On 7/24/08, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 24, 2008, at 4:00 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It's looking quite stable, so please try it if you haven't already so we can find the last bugs. As far as I

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc4 released

2008-07-24 Thread ydegoyon
ola, (Unfortunately the disk just died on the Windows build machine...) yooohooo! sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended-rc4 released

2008-07-24 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
The latest release. .hc On Jul 24, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Matthew Logan wrote: Should the latest Gem be in here? On 7/24/08, Hans-Christoph Steiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jul 24, 2008, at 4:00 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: It's looking quite stable, so please try