Re: [PD] Seamless recording of 2 consecutive audio files?
Hi all, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 13:43 +0100, Peter Plessas wrote: >> Dear Frank, List >> >> thanks for that help! Yes indeed it works and i have been able of doing >> it with less objects and the help of bang~ as well. >> There is one thing i still don't get: >> I always thought pd would try to execute non-signal messages inbetween >> audio blocks. And for two messages this would be the same interval >> unless Pd had too many messages to calculate and defers them after the >> next audio block. But the writesf~ example shows that this is not >> necessarily the case. > > i am sorry for being too lazy to test myself, butwhat is the actual > result of this? does [writesf~] start recording between block > boundaries? or does it stop recording between boundaries? or is there > another reason for being forced to use [bang~]? > > i somehow assumed, that [writesf~] doesn't use scheduled messages... I always thought that Pd would execute messages in between audio blocks. So if i sent two messages (stop old file, start new file), i expected them to happen in a gap between two blocks, hence gapless recorded files possible. Franks demonstration shows that i have to explicitly time those messages according to a block~ (or equivalent) in order to get this behavior. Still all blurry to me, let's look on! regards, PP > > roman > > > > > ___ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Re: [PD] BUG found in last windoze release
working fine :) Miller Puckette a écrit : > Damn, I just can't seem to get it right this time around... > > anyhow, try 0.42-2 (up on the web page, windows only so far). > > thanks for flagging this > M > > On Tue, Jan 06, 2009 at 11:45:21AM +0100, Patrice Colet wrote: >> the last edited canvas is focused when using any method for leaving >> 0.42-1, so we can't close it. >> >> Pd version 0.42-0test8 doesn't seem to have problems. Just misses the >> Ctrl+Enter and motion accelerator key features, >> >> PatCo >> >> >> Miller Puckette a ?crit : >>> OK -- try Pd 0.42-1. >>> >>> cheers >>> M >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 12:30:35AM +0100, Patrice Colet wrote: Hello, the bug is easy to reproduce everytime: 1? open a patch 2? modify something 3? quit PureData 4? Click "No" 5? Try to enter in edit mode 6? good luck PatCo ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.42-2 released (0.42 with bug fixes)
Hi all, Pd 0.42-2 is available on the usual, http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html or sources via svn: svn checkout https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/pd/ This fixes a very nasty bug in Windos -- you shouldn't even try the earlier 0.42 releases on Windows. Also, some bother in the Mac version was cleaned up. I borrowed an idea from the mailing list and fixed control-a to toggle between selecting all and none - a clickless way to defeat auto-connection. cheers Miller ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Seamless recording of 2 consecutive audio files?
Yes, thanks Frank, that's a neat hack! best, flo.H Peter Plessas wrote: > thanks for that help! Yes indeed it works and i have been able of > doing it with less objects and the help of bang~ as well. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, Patrice Colet wrote: how do you get a specific selected object with using [objectcount]? You don't, you have to make a new class very similar to [objectcount], that's all. #include #include "g_canvas.h" typedef struct {t_object o; t_canvas *c;} t_objectselect; static t_class *objectselect_class; t_pd *objectselect_new (void) { t_objectselect *self = (t_objectselect *)pd_new(objectselect_class); self->c=canvas_getcurrent(); return (t_pd *)self; } void objectselect_float(t_objectselect *self, t_float f) { glist_noselect(self->c); int i=0; t_gobj *o = self->c->gl_list; for (; o; i++, o=o->g_next) if (i==(int)f) break; if (o) glist_select(self->c,o); } void objectselect_setup (void) { objectselect_class=class_new(gensym("objectselect"), (t_newmethod)objectselect_new,0,sizeof(t_objectselect),0,0); class_addfloat(objectselect_class,objectselect_float); } _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Seamless recording of 2 consecutive audio files?
On Tue, 2009-01-06 at 13:43 +0100, Peter Plessas wrote: > Dear Frank, List > > thanks for that help! Yes indeed it works and i have been able of doing > it with less objects and the help of bang~ as well. > There is one thing i still don't get: > I always thought pd would try to execute non-signal messages inbetween > audio blocks. And for two messages this would be the same interval > unless Pd had too many messages to calculate and defers them after the > next audio block. But the writesf~ example shows that this is not > necessarily the case. i am sorry for being too lazy to test myself, butwhat is the actual result of this? does [writesf~] start recording between block boundaries? or does it stop recording between boundaries? or is there another reason for being forced to use [bang~]? i somehow assumed, that [writesf~] doesn't use scheduled messages... roman ___ Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse
Haven't all of the patching desires currently under discussion been implemented in desiredata? I'm looking at: http://code.goto10.org/projects/desiredata/wiki/UserDocs The only thing I don't see is the ability to have msg boxes as part of automatic object chaining. I'd be interested to hear from people who have used dd, how effective they thought any/all of these features were. As for the new object chaining in pd, it seems to cut my patching time in half for small, simple patches (mostly because I don't spend any time straightening wires). -Jonathan --- On Tue, 1/6/09, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: > From: Mathieu Bouchard > Subject: Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse > To: "Jamie Bullock" > Cc: pd-list@iem.at > Date: Tuesday, January 6, 2009, 12:24 AM > On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Jamie Bullock wrote: > > > Keep It Simple Stupid! > > Oh, everybody agrees on this, they just don't agree on > what simplicity is and how to achieve it. > > > Furthermore, you could also extend Ctrl+Return, making > it the shortcut > > for connecting already instantiated objects. I.e if we > select (with the > > mouse): > > My idea was that Ctrl+Return would be a key binding of a > box being edited, not of the canvas, so you wouldn't be > able to just select objects and press Ctrl+Return. I > suppose, Ctrl+Return could also be bound to the canvas, but > in that case, the origin of the choice of Ctrl+Return is > meaningless (it's supposed to be a variation on the > Return binding of a box being edited) > > > ... and hit Ctrl+Return we get the outlets of the > message boxes > > connected to the left inlet of [f ]. > > But Chun already did this in a different way which also > works for connecting to several objects at once and allows > to choose the outlet number and inlet number. > > _ _ __ ___ _ _ > _ ... > | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, > Québec___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009, marius schebella wrote: Is there a way to tell, which objects (by object count) are selected in a patch? If I sent you an external doing this it's because I believe that it can't be done without an external or modification to pd. and a way to query the content of an object by object count? How would you like it to work in particular? and can I select (mark blue) an object in the patch by object count? First call glist_noselect(canvas) then call glist_select(canvas,o) where o is found in a way very similar to what [objectcount] does. I could write it if you give me some feedback on [objectcount]. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801, Montréal, Québec___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Rme fireface 400
Ok I fixed itI got my 8 channels working under the MMIO driver using a sample rate of 48000.44100 is not supported for more than 2 channels it seems. There was a message in the command prompt suggesting I use "Capability function to discover supported formats" Anyone know what that is all about? Nick. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] issues installing pd-ext on ubuntu intrepid 868
There are lots of docs for all this stuff here: http://puredata.info/docs/developer INSTALL.txt is only easily modifyable by Miller, since it is part of pd-vanilla. That chunk of the website is a wiki, so anyone can contribute. Also, Pd-extended 0.40.3 doesn't work well with Tcl/Tk 8.5, there are some display issues. So stick with tcl84 for Pd-extended for now. Part of the current pd-devel effort is to make things work well on Tcl 8.5. .hc On Jan 6, 2009, at 8:23 AM, João Pais wrote: > > > I had several topics about compiling pd-ext (latest night build) > on my 686 > > desktop: > > > > - is it possible to add a line to INSTALL.TXT saying that ubuntu > users must > > install tcl/tk-dev, and *not just* tcl/tk? That saves time and > pacience from > > checking the list. (same applies also to pd van) > > Well, that applies to *every* software that you compile on your own: > You > always need the -dev or -devel packages (Fedora) installed. > Now I know about it. I'm just saying that for anyone new, the same > will happen again. > > > > - it would be also good that this file indicates which tcl/tk > version is > > suitable to use with pd. I assumed the most actual version would > be good, so > > I installed tcl/tk 8.5. Although it did build etc, when I try to > run pd it > > complains that > > > > /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui: error while loading shared libraries: > > libtk8.4.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or > directory > > > > which I guess it means that tcl/tk 8.4 is necessary > > Here Pd runs just fine with 8.5. Are you sure that version is the > version you have just compiled and not an older version lying around? > Check with "ls -l". > I have no other versions around, this system is quite new. I just > downloaded the night build from 05-01. > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
On Jan 6, 2009, at 2:01 AM, Steffen Juul wrote: > > On 05/01/2009, at 20.24, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> Basically, the sooner we have the new u_main.tk replacement code >> finished, the sooner we can start tackling things like this in a >> rational fashion. Here are some parts that are good modules to >> work on: >> >> - unified preference panel with tabs (like standard pref panes on >> GNOME, Mac OS X, and Windows) > (snip) > > I though the point was to first restructure u_main.tk, then add > futures. As opposed to adding features while restructuring. I think that's how we agreed on it, and I think it makes sense. I'd like to hear what others think. Combining the preference panels into one with tabs is more of a restructuring than a new feature. It wouldn't change the logic of the code at all. .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] issues installing pd-ext on ubuntu intrepid 868
Hallo, Jo?o Pais hat gesagt: // Jo?o Pais wrote: > > Here Pd runs just fine with 8.5. Are you sure that version is the > > version you have just compiled and not an older version lying around? > > Check with "ls -l". > > I have no other versions around, this system is quite new. I just downloaded > the night build from 05-01. Ah, is the night-*build* maybe a binary? Sorry, I don't run these myself. If you have installed a binary, then indeed you need to install the matching tcl/tk packages for that build. However than you normally do not need the -dev packages. Normally the dependency checks of a Debian package take care of that, so I guess something is not right somewhere. :( Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] svg?
hola, xa, you might contact Pablo Martin Caedes who developped something in that sense, never released to my knowledge.. he might be lost in Crystal Space though salut!, sevy xà wrote: > hi list, > > does anybody know how to manage and manipulate .svg vector images in pd? > any external / library for this in pdp or gem? > > salut > xà! > > > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] issues installing pd-ext on ubuntu intrepid 868
> > I had several topics about compiling pd-ext (latest night build) on my > 686 > > desktop: > > > > - is it possible to add a line to INSTALL.TXT saying that ubuntu users > must > > install tcl/tk-dev, and *not just* tcl/tk? That saves time and pacience > from > > checking the list. (same applies also to pd van) > > Well, that applies to *every* software that you compile on your own: You > always need the -dev or -devel packages (Fedora) installed. Now I know about it. I'm just saying that for anyone new, the same will happen again. > > > > - it would be also good that this file indicates which tcl/tk version is > > suitable to use with pd. I assumed the most actual version would be good, > so > > I installed tcl/tk 8.5. Although it did build etc, when I try to run pd > it > > complains that > > > > /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui: error while loading shared libraries: > > libtk8.4.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > > > which I guess it means that tcl/tk 8.4 is necessary > > Here Pd runs just fine with 8.5. Are you sure that version is the > version you have just compiled and not an older version lying around? > Check with "ls -l". I have no other versions around, this system is quite new. I just downloaded the night build from 05-01. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Seamless recording of 2 consecutive audio files?
Dear Frank, List thanks for that help! Yes indeed it works and i have been able of doing it with less objects and the help of bang~ as well. There is one thing i still don't get: I always thought pd would try to execute non-signal messages inbetween audio blocks. And for two messages this would be the same interval unless Pd had too many messages to calculate and defers them after the next audio block. But the writesf~ example shows that this is not necessarily the case. Thanks again! Peter Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Florian Hollerweger hat gesagt: // Florian Hollerweger wrote: > >> Is it possible to record 2 audio files with [writesf~] in a manner that >> the second starts "exactly after" the first one stops? In other words so >> that there will be a seamless (click-free) transisition when glueing the >> two together. > > You have to make sure to activate the next [writesf~] on a block > boundary and also close the first [writsf~] in that same block. See > the [pd blockbang~] subpatch in the attachement for an example how to > do it. > > Ciao > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Job opportunity ASAP : research Engineer on real-time collaborative creation project in/out PARIS
Hi all, Here is a job opportunity which could interest some of pd-list readers. Feel free to spread this announcement. Bonjour à tous, Vous trouverez ci-dessous une annonce pour un poste qui pourrait intéresser les lecteurs de la pd-list. Merci de diffuser cette annonce. CiTu team. (French version below) english version Job opportunity : research Engineer on real-time collaborative creation project in/out Please apply to recrutem...@citu.info InOut is a research project led by CiTu laboratory from Paris universities 1 (Sorbonne) and 8 (Saint Denis). InOut proposes to connect several artistic projects by allowing Peer to Peer video, audio and data streams in real-time. Each project uses the incoming streams and give his production back to the network. The goal is to allow to exchange any type of streams on any platform, any software. The projects can be anywhere on earth or even on the moon, so far it's connected to Internet. In/Out has already produces 2 exhibitions in June 2006 and December 2008. The last one called IN/OUT X.0 build a network of 8 artistics projects interconnected from 5 different places in Paris and Ile de France. To continue developments, the CiTu is now looking for an engineer to lead the research and particularly the ongoing collaboration with Art Institute of san Fransisco and Stanford University. The next step is now to help any people to enter in/out network by making online participation easier. Profile Knowledges in streams fields (existing tools) : - icecast, quicktime, flash (flex) - vlc, ffmpeg Knowledges in artistic real-time creation tools : - MaxMSP/PureData, Processing, OpenFrameworks - Jack Server, OSC Good relations with artistic environment, to have initiative, innovation, interesting in human interface design. CiTu : Federation of university labs initiated by Paris 1 and Paris 8 Universities CITU is an activator in the field of art creation and emerging media. CITU considers research as a kind of art creation, experimenting new forms of studies and experimental procedures. If technology is not the future of art, art can help us to imagine forthcoming technologies as well as the future of our surrounding world, prioritising periphery rather than centre, favouring networking, exchanges and collaborations. CITU performs the following tasks: • To support projects development in terms of design and production. • To facilitate access to equipments necessary to research, creation and exhibition, on the basis of common projects: virtual reality, capture devices, digital prototyping tools • To favour gathering and cooperation between artists, scientists and researchers working usually on parallel fields. • To organise the dissemination of knowledge and experience rising from such encounters, notably with the organisation of seminars, conferences and workshops. • To work in collaboration with exhibition places, research centres, Art schools and universities. This position will take place in Paris as soon as possible. Remuneration to be discussed depending on profile and experiences. French version CDD Ingénieur de recherche pour projet IN/OUT Le projet InOut : création en réseau InOut s'intéresse à la création connective. Il permet la mise en relation de projets artistiques connectés en réseau. Les échanges de flux (data,audio,video) s'effectuent en temps réel. Chaque projet se nourrit de flux extérieurs, et rend disponible le résultat de sa production. Les 3 types de flux peuvent être intégrés dans tout type d'environnement logiciel. Les projets sont répartis dans différents lieux. Un simple accès Web permet la participation. Ce projet a fait l'objet de 2 expositions dont la dernière IN/OUT X.0 s'est déroulée en Décembre 2008. Le CiTu recherche un ingénieur de recherche pour un contrat de 1 an renouvable afin de continuer de développer le projet IN/OUT notamment pour une collaboration avec San Fransisco. Profil Connaissance des problématiques de stream, et des outils et environnements (libres/propriétaires) existants : - icecast, quicktime, flash (flex) - vlc, ffmpeg Connaissance des environnements de production artistique et de création temps réel : - MaxMSP/PureData, Processing, OpenFrameworks - Jack Server, OSC Relation facile et ouverte avec des artistes Fort esprit d'initiative et d'innovation Intérêt pour les problématiques de design d'interface Mission Le candidat sera responsable du développement du projet IN/OUT. Sous la direction du responsable scientifique du laboratoire, il devra piloter les recherches et développements afin de continuer de développer les outils logiciels existant en interne capables de créer un réseau d'échanges de flux en temps réel et en peer to peer. Objectif Ces recherches seront menées en collaboration avec les partenaires du CiTu à San Fransisco et aura pour objectif une nouvell
Re: [PD] svg?
Gem using libsugar might be very possible, isnt'it? http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/sourceforge/l/li/libsugar/libsugar-dev-0.4-2.i386.html xà a écrit : > hi list, > > does anybody know how to manage and manipulate .svg vector images in pd? > any external / library for this in pdp or gem? > > salut > xà! > > > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] issues installing pd-ext on ubuntu intrepid 868
Hallo, Jo?o Pais hat gesagt: // Jo?o Pais wrote: > I had several topics about compiling pd-ext (latest night build) on my 686 > desktop: > > - is it possible to add a line to INSTALL.TXT saying that ubuntu users must > install tcl/tk-dev, and *not just* tcl/tk? That saves time and pacience from > checking the list. (same applies also to pd van) Well, that applies to *every* software that you compile on your own: You always need the -dev or -devel packages (Fedora) installed. > - it would be also good that this file indicates which tcl/tk version is > suitable to use with pd. I assumed the most actual version would be good, so > I installed tcl/tk 8.5. Although it did build etc, when I try to run pd it > complains that > > /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui: error while loading shared libraries: > libtk8.4.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory > > which I guess it means that tcl/tk 8.4 is necessary Here Pd runs just fine with 8.5. Are you sure that version is the version you have just compiled and not an older version lying around? Check with "ls -l". Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] "Discard changes" dialog WAS: left mouse click abuse
ha ha, just wrote a reply to this in gmail. decided against it, and then got the message: "your draft has been modified. abandon changes?" ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] audio buffer-swapping
>>So you would bang something and arrayB is where you read from and arrayA is where you read from,<< most (all?) of the table reading and writing objects accept a 'set' message to designate which array to read or write from. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] BUG found in last windoze release
the last edited canvas is focused when using any method for leaving 0.42-1, so we can't close it. Pd version 0.42-0test8 doesn't seem to have problems. Just misses the Ctrl+Enter and motion accelerator key features, PatCo Miller Puckette a écrit : > OK -- try Pd 0.42-1. > > cheers > M > > On Mon, Jan 05, 2009 at 12:30:35AM +0100, Patrice Colet wrote: >> Hello, >> >> the bug is easy to reproduce everytime: >> >> 1? open a patch >> 2? modify something >> 3? quit PureData >> 4? Click "No" >> 5? Try to enter in edit mode >> 6? good luck >> >> PatCo >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] issues installing pd-ext on ubuntu intrepid 868
Hi, I had several topics about compiling pd-ext (latest night build) on my 686 desktop: - is it possible to add a line to INSTALL.TXT saying that ubuntu users must install tcl/tk-dev, and *not just* tcl/tk? That saves time and pacience from checking the list. (same applies also to pd van) - it would be also good that this file indicates which tcl/tk version is suitable to use with pd. I assumed the most actual version would be good, so I installed tcl/tk 8.5. Although it did build etc, when I try to run pd it complains that /usr/local/lib/pd/bin/pd-gui: error while loading shared libraries: libtk8.4.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory which I guess it means that tcl/tk 8.4 is necessary - that said, I uninstalled tcl/tk-dev 8.5 and installed tcl/tk-dev 8.4. But the same message still appears, so now I don't understand what's the problem. libtk8.4.so.0 is at /usr/lib, so why can't pd find it? (looking for libtk8.4.so.0 in the pd-list didn't bring much) - and after correcting this problem, is it possible to mention it in the INSTALL.TXT file? The bottom line is, I think I still remember these issues (or similar ones, now I'm not sure) some years ago when I was trying to work with linux. And all that time later, they're still there. If they're "features" and are here to stay, it would be good to warn users upfront about it. Another thing: any suggestions on how to setup the computer to have pd-ext and pd-van compiled at the same time? In windows is really easy, I just say which folder I want it to be, and all the files stay there, aren't distributed around the computer. How is it possible to make that the common files between both versions aren't overwritten? (or are common files also similar to one other?) Thanks, Joao -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp IBM Thinkpad R51, XP, Ubuntu II | Pd-Ext-0.40.3 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] left mouse click abuse
I think it took me less time to make this try than writing a 200 words email, and I don't care about what is right or what is wrong, but I do care about what is working. By the way I'd like to thank this intervention because now I know deeper things about g_canvas.h, for ending with personal thoughts. PatCo marius schebella a écrit : > Patrice Colet wrote: >> something like this > > that's nice. > > but for me the problem with patching lies a level deeper: the graphical > representation of the patch and the inner pd process are too much > entangled. > 1) the position of the objects is actually not really interesting for > the pd engine. neither are comments or subpatches. > 2) there is no way to add and delete objects. and I think this is not > only becaue it is not possible to access the total number of objects > inside a canvas or their individual IDs. there is no communication from > the Pd engine to the outside world. > 3) the GUI editor, otoh, should know and do a lot more than what is > saved in the .pd file. but of course people will ask "what for, if the > Pd process itself does not use all that additional information". well, > if you know the internal IDs of the objects and the patching history, > you could have unlimited undos, additional patching shortcuts, cord > creation via keyboard. you could have hidden comments, different layouts > for different screens, ... or just replace tcl/tk with any other GUI. > please correct me, if I am wrong. > marius. > >> >> >> Patrice Colet a écrit : >>> Hello, >>> >>> A work around might be about using the [tot] in capture mode (see >>> monkey example) and [popup] external for storing commands, >>> unfortunately I've no time yet to do this... >>> >>> best regards to everyone >>> >>> PatCo. >>> >>> volker böhm a écrit : >> marius schebella a écrit : >> ... >>> [openpanel] always goes with a bang input. default pd-auto- >>> completion >>> could directly be taken from the help patch for the object or a list >>> of standard combinations for this object. >>> marius. >> make an GOP abstraction with a bang and a openpanel. > that's really not the same, I want a set of objects created > automatically inside the patch, so that I can connect, drag or reuse > them in the patcher window. > this could be extended in so many ways. for example autoincrementing > object arguments when you use a special duplicate command. > marius. don't know if anyone here wants to hear about it, but this is exactly what the clippings folder in maxmsp is used for. the user can save little (or big) code snippets there as regular patch files. then you can access the patches through a context menu and paste the code snippets into any new patches you are working on. ok, no key-shortcuts yet, but those could be added easily i suppose. very handy feature in my opinion. volker. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reusable snippets with key commands WAS: left mouse click abuse
Luke Iannini wrote: > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> On Jan 5, 2009, at 4:42 AM, volker böhm wrote: >> > marius schebella a écrit : > ... >> [openpanel] always goes with a bang input. default pd-auto- >> completion >> could directly be taken from the help patch for the object or a >> list >> of standard combinations for this object. >> marius. > make an GOP abstraction with a bang and a openpanel. that's really not the same, I want a set of objects created automatically inside the patch, so that I can connect, drag or reuse them in the patcher window. this could be extended in so many ways. for example autoincrementing object arguments when you use a special duplicate command. marius. >>> don't know if anyone here wants to hear about it, but this is exactly >>> what the clippings folder in maxmsp is used for. >>> the user can save little (or big) code snippets there as regular >>> patch files. then you can access the patches through a context menu >>> and paste the code snippets into any new patches you are working on. >>> ok, no key-shortcuts yet, but those could be added easily i suppose. >>> very handy feature in my opinion. >>> volker. > > Yo, just for the sake of discussion, the [templater] object I released > last month is one implementation of this "snippets" idea. > See here: > http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-12/066854.html > > (also, some of the stuff being requested like canvas object counts > etc. can be found in IOhannes's iemguts). > Best > Luke Hi Luke, I did not read the pd list during the last 3 months, sorry. but that is what I was looking for! this really gives a lot of opportunities. which leads me to more questions: Is there a way to tell, which objects (by object count) are selected in a patch? and a way to query the content of an object by object count? and can I select (mark blue) an object in the patch by object count? for the snipplets, I think, if you add a snipplet to your canvas, it should be selected by default, so that you can easily undo the paste. and I also like the idea of cycling through a set of snipplets with the same key combination. that way you don't have to remember so many keyboard commands. it is more like using a dictionary for text messaging on the phone. one key cycles through all the possible words with a certain letter combination. in Pd it would cycle depending on the object(s) you select, or just some standard clippings. marius. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list