Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4 nightlies now available
Hi Hans So far this nights autobuild works nicely for me on osx. It would be very nice to have zexy's ~, ~, !=~, ==~ back though. and are there plans to include pdlua soon? thanks eni Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Starting today, there are now some Pd-extended 0.41.4 nightly builds available: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2009-01-11/ Start testing them so we can get the release out quickly! .hc You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ladspa~ for pd
oh ok, i was not aware of the merging process between dssi~ and plugin~. However i had some little issues with dssi~, that i'm currently fixing. I'll send you a patch soon :) regards On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Jamie Bullock ja...@postlude.co.uk wrote: On 18 Jan 2009, at 23:34, mou...@laposte.net wrote: hi list, i patched plugin~ to make it run correctly and renamed the object to ladspa~ to make it less confusing. http://bitbucket.org/moumar/ladspa/ Feel free to give me suggestions. My suggestion is that you try using dssi~. It supports LADSPA just the same as plugin~, but is more full-featured. It has been discussed recently that we bring the dssi~ Pd interface in line with plugin~ (It almost already is) and then simply rename it to plugin~, replacing the old one. I'd like to add LV2 support and ensure that dssi-vst support works as well. Then the generic name 'plugin~' becomes a bit more justified ;-) Jamie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] aka.wiiremote object for os x
I would like to work on akawiiremote a bit, because it seems to be the only external for wiimote and pd on mac. Can somebody, who has successfully compiled it yet, tell which version of Pd he/she has used ? I still haven't managed to compile it with neither pd-extended-0.40-3, nor pd-0.42-3, and would like to try it with another build system. Thanks, Florian ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dyn~
Hi, i uploaded some binaries of flext-based externals made on Ubuntu 32-bits to http://g.org/ext/beta/pd/linux . No guarantees, i'm happy about feedback though. gr~~~ 2009/1/15 patrick pured...@11h11.com: i didn't find dyn~ in pd-extended for linux. it's included in pd-extended for windows. anyone have dyn~.pd_linux? pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] XBOX 360 controller to pd (noob question)
Dear allI've been attemting to use input from an xbox 360 wireless controller for PD on mac OS 4. However I can't find anywhere to connect to a bluetooth input device. Anyone know?God BlessAndrew _ Choose the perfect PC or mobile phone for you http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/130777504/direct/01/___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] flexternals linux(64) binaries, was: Re: dyn~
Hi, now the same for Ubuntu 64-bits: http://g.org/ext/beta/pd/linux64 gr~~~ 2009/1/20 Thomas Grill g...@g.org: Hi, i uploaded some binaries of flext-based externals made on Ubuntu 32-bits to http://g.org/ext/beta/pd/linux . No guarantees, i'm happy about feedback though. gr~~~ 2009/1/15 patrick pured...@11h11.com: i didn't find dyn~ in pd-extended for linux. it's included in pd-extended for windows. anyone have dyn~.pd_linux? pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dyn~
Hi Pat, i can't say, since i don't use linux regularly and know nothing about compatibility issues on this platform. The binaries are compiled against pentium4 (32 bits) resp. nocona (64 bits) architectures, there are no special settings otherwise. Anyway, i have to say that checking out flext and the externals from svn and compiling was completely flawless and a matter of just 10 minutes on each platform (provided the system is set up properly with all the necessary packages installed). gr~~~ 2009/1/20 patrick pured...@11h11.com: fantastic! they are working nicely. does it mean that anyone too lazy to compile and install flext can simply use those? like putting xsample.pd_linux in /usr/local/lib/pd/extra and start pd with -lib xsample? thank you for your time, pat -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] XBOX 360 controller to pd (noob question)
Have you installed drivers for the controller? You might want to start here. http://tattiebogle.net/index.php/ProjectRoot/Xbox360Controller I've used his PS3 driver. It only seems to work with USB, not over Bluetooth. I don't know if the XBox driver supports Bluetooth connectivity or not. Once you have the controller hooked up you should be able to use the [hid] object to get the inputs. andy On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear all I've been attemting to use input from an xbox 360 wireless controller for PD on mac OS 4. However I can't find anywhere to connect to a bluetooth input device. Anyone know? God Bless Andrew Are you a PC? Upload your PC story and show the world Click Here! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] flexternals linux(32) binaries
2009/1/20 Thomas Grill g...@g.org: Hi, i uploaded some binaries of flext-based externals made on Ubuntu 32-bits to http://g.org/ext/beta/pd/linux . No guarantees, i'm happy about feedback though. gr~~~ I been trying py binary object for a bit and it works fine on an ubuntu 8.04 machine (32 bit). Thank you, it's very apprecieted. But what about pyext? i just tryed to load it with -lib flag but it didn't work. some help? bye Husk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] reading colors from txt file with repeat
Hello pd happy people, one question , i have a txt file with rgb colors . The txt file i have is something like this: 142 250 0 0 100 50 14 123 0 123 222 111 and so on. each line represents the rgb color where the first item in each line is red , the second green and the third blue. My question is this: i have a gem patch that creates random 3d shapes using nested repeat objects with geos. How can i read each line of my txt file (each color ) and apply to each repeated geo? for example if i have a sphere repeated 10 times, i would like that the first sphere would be the color of the first line in my txt file, the second sphere the second line in my txt file , the third sphere the third color in my txt file and so on. how can i do something like this any advice would be apreciatted !! many thanks pun. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reading colors from txt file with repeat
punchik punchik wrote: Hello pd happy people, one question , i have a txt file with rgb colors . The txt file i have is something like this: 142 250 0 0 100 50 14 123 0 123 222 111 and so on. each line represents the rgb color where the first item in each line is red , the second green and the third blue. My question is this: i have a gem patch that creates random 3d shapes using nested repeat objects with geos. How can i read each line of my txt file (each color ) and apply to each repeated geo? for example if i have a sphere repeated 10 times, i would like that the first sphere would be the color of the first line in my txt file, the second sphere the second line in my txt file , the third sphere the third color in my txt file and so on. how can i do something like this something like the attached? but you probably really should use tables/arrays to store the values rather than using [textfile] fgmasdr IOhannes 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 #N canvas 142 81 784 483 10; #X obj 135 138 gemhead; #X obj 547 125 gemwin; #X msg 548 96 create \, 1; #X obj 135 195 repeat 10; #X obj 270 241 textfile; #X obj 135 166 t a b; #X msg 248 156 rewind; #X obj 135 299 color; #X obj 135 244 t a b; #X obj 135 350 translateXYZ 0.5 0 0; #X obj 135 326 sphere 0.1; #X obj 135 374 rotateXYZ 0 0 10; #X msg 327 165 read colors.txt cr; #X msg 341 304 rewind \, bang; #X obj 341 284 spigot; #X obj 455 199 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 273 209 spigot 1; #X obj 339 220 == 0; #X obj 409 220 t f f; #X text 477 197 -- turn on to loop through the file; #X floatatom 281 93 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 135 398 scale 0.9; #X connect 0 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 8 0; #X connect 4 0 7 1; #X connect 4 1 14 0; #X connect 5 0 3 0; #X connect 5 1 6 0; #X connect 6 0 16 0; #X connect 7 0 10 0; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 8 1 4 0; #X connect 9 0 11 0; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 11 0 21 0; #X connect 12 0 4 0; #X connect 13 0 4 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 15 0 18 0; #X connect 16 0 4 0; #X connect 17 0 16 1; #X connect 18 0 17 0; #X connect 18 1 14 1; #X connect 20 0 3 1; smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] aka.wiiremote object for os x
Hi Johannes, Hi Florian I tested to compile akawiiremote on OS X and it actually worked. But : i get only output of the buttons, cannot set the LED, and no motion- data... if anyone gets any further with it, i would be interested Bye Luigi Am 20.01.2009 um 14:11 schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig: Florian Krebs wrote: I would like to work on akawiiremote a bit, because it seems to be the only external for wiimote and pd on mac. Can somebody, who has successfully compiled it yet, tell which version of Pd he/she has used ? I still haven't managed to compile it with neither pd- extended-0.40-3, nor pd-0.42-3, and would like to try it with another build system. Thanks, attached is a standalone makefile that at least compiles here. it is derived from the build-process of pd-extended (which had no problem here, but i have checked out the entire trunk) fgmadsr IOhannes makefile.zip___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem 0.91-2 bugfix release
On 19/01/2009, at 10.57, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: have fun thanks, but my fun stopped at: 8 /path/to/Gem.d_fat: dlopen(/path/to/Gem.d_fat, 10): Symbol not found: _close$UNIX2003 Referenced from: /path/to/Gem.d_fat Expected in: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib Gem: can't load library 8 This happens with Pd-0.42-3 and Pd-0.41-4 intel mac os x.4.11 What am i doing wrong? `file /path/to/Gem.d_fat´ reports the expected. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] flexternals linux(32) binaries
It's -lib py to use the py and pyext objects. gr~~~ 2009/1/20 husk hus...@gmail.com: 2009/1/20 Thomas Grill g...@g.org: Hi, i uploaded some binaries of flext-based externals made on Ubuntu 32-bits to http://g.org/ext/beta/pd/linux . No guarantees, i'm happy about feedback though. gr~~~ I been trying py binary object for a bit and it works fine on an ubuntu 8.04 machine (32 bit). Thank you, it's very apprecieted. But what about pyext? i just tryed to load it with -lib flag but it didn't work. some help? bye Husk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Thomas Grill http://g.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Get current DSP state into patch?
Hi list, Is there a way to get the current state of the DSP (on/off) as a number into a patch? I understand that [; pd dsp( prints the DSP's state to the command line, but I would like to access this information within the patch itself. Thanks for your ideas! best, flo.H ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem 0.91-2 bugfix release
Steffen Juul wrote: On 19/01/2009, at 10.57, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: have fun thanks, but my fun stopped at: 8 /path/to/Gem.d_fat: dlopen(/path/to/Gem.d_fat, 10): Symbol not found: _close$UNIX2003 Referenced from: /path/to/Gem.d_fat Expected in: /usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib Gem: can't load library 8 This happens with Pd-0.42-3 and Pd-0.41-4 intel mac os x.4.11 yes, i noticed that too, when today i tested the binary on a 10.4 machine. it was compiled on an 10.5 machine, i guess this is the problem. i will try to update the binary with a 10.4 compatible version asap. unless, of course, somebody of the os-x gurus can tell me how to avoid this problem alltogether. the problem might come from pix_freeframe switching to dlopen(), but i don't know yet. fmgasdr IOhannes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Nightly Build question
Hans, I was wondering what the status is for the PowerPC (Mac OS X) version of the Nightly Builds? Is this gone for good? Thanks, Mike -- Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dyn~
fantastic! they are working nicely. does it mean that anyone too lazy to compile and install flext can simply use those? like putting xsample.pd_linux in /usr/local/lib/pd/extra and start pd with -lib xsample? thank you for your time, pat ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Yet more DS GUI excursions
Here's an example where some ds stuff is drawn outside the bounding box by hiding it before the gop dimensions are set. Move the red box to make the y-value and mouse-action appear. For the y-value on the right, there's obviously a bug because if you quickly minimize and maximize the patch when it's visible, the gop box widens to compensate (in windows at least). But the symbol to the left doesn't seem to affect the gop dimensions. I'm guessing this is because I set it's x-value to a negative number. I'd assuming this works with filledpolygon, but I haven't tried it yet. -Jonathan --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Luke Iannini lukex...@gmail.com wrote: From: Luke Iannini lukex...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] Yet more DS GUI excursions To: PD list pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 11:14 AM Here's another experiment with datastructure-based GUI replacements. As with Chris (with his recent excellent expanding GUI concept), I'm a big big fan of hiding complexity, and I also like keeping details and interaction in context, as in, somehow connected to or growing from the control you're manipulating. Apple's doing this tons lately, e.g., the new iLife http://blog.cocoia.com/2009/01/07/iwork-ilife-09-ui-roundup/ (HUD panel changes is the only pic I can find, but there are many more examples in the new iMovie videos @ http://www.apple.com/ilife/imovie/). So, this is a simple context-bubble sketch: dragging the slider reveals a bubble with two different interpretations of the slider's value. With the new click message, these could me more than transient datalayers, and could graduate to being actual interactive controls. The biggest problem with this example is that the bounding box of the GOP needs to be bigger than the control to give room for the context popup to appear, meaning every control has a giant black rectangular halo. It would be really awesome if there was a way to hide that box, just like IOhannes added the option to hide the object name and arguments. Another really nice addition to DS would be variable opacity, so when I do a filledpolygon I can specify 9005 as the color to get a transparent red rather than just 900. That would be of great use for both these context bubbles as well as, say, a sample range selection box where you can still see the sample data under the selection. And as ever, a way to specify a persistent z-index for DS is pretty essential for any complex use. Okee, that's all for the moment Best Luke ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list slider-example.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Gem 0.91-2 bugfix release
On 20/01/2009, at 22.13, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: could you try the binary at http://iem.at/~zmoelnig/GEM/ Gem0.91.2_104.tgz (it seems to work here) works/loads. thanks! that was fast. Then i have another problem but it's not new. it's with pix_data. when i query it for rgb values from a red part of a png image, i get (r=0,g=1,b=1) as the output (i also boost the contrast and round off). to gem-tracker item 2484105 I posted a link to an email in the (pd-list) archive that have a demo patch. i wonder if it's a user error? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Get current DSP state into patch?
Thanks IOhannes, I had no idea about the [r pd] trick, that's really neat! best, flo.H IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: [r pd] | [route dsp] | this of course only works if the dsp-state changes after instantiation of the patch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Hiding bits of the subpatch
On Sun, Jan 11, 2009 at 5:01 AM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 09:32:32PM -0600, Mike McGonagle wrote: One thing I noticed is that when you click to open and close these gadgets, it will leave the patch in a dirty state, and it will ask you if you want to save the patch before closing it. Yeah, that sucks for sure, I forgot all about that. Would be great if it was possible to send a message 'clean' to a patch to undo the dirty flag. Yo, this is definitely a bummer - even for datastructures, populating the data subpatch trips the dirty flag, which is often unwanted when the DS are just transient bits saved via a different mechanism than writing to the patch file (like SSSAD). But, it seems like a [clean( message might inadvertently cause one to lose work, e.g., if you make a wanted, permanent change, tripping the dirty flag, and then run an operation which sends a [clean( message, you would not be able to distinguish which change was meant to be permanent and which was transient. So, a different idea might be a message which can temporarily or permanently toggle detection of changes in a patch or subpatch. This way, one could turn off dirty-detection, make a change using [donecanvasdialog(, and turn it back on again. One could then effectively specify which operations are meant to be saved and which are not. To complete this idea, though, we also need a [savebang] object to fire before the patch is saved to restore the patch to its original state (clearing subpatches, restoring GOP size, etc.). I know this can be built with [tot] but it's not reliable (I have a [savebang] abstraction in sfruit/ which I've tried to use for this purpose - it only works half the time or so). Best Luke Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] doco on iem_bin_ambi?
Can anyone point me to any doco on iem_bin_ambi? ... (and iem_ambi for that matter). Google is failling me ... maybe somewhere on my harddrive? I'm on OSX (in case that has significance) Etienne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Yet more DS GUI excursions
Luke, i played with that briefly yesterday, when closing, i got a whole bunch of discard changes to this window? dialogues. (also, slightly off topic, but i think it was you who mentioned a while back that you were working on matrix-editor sequencer in DS. is there any progress on that? ) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reading colors from txt file with repeat
yes, something like that thanks, but why should i use arrays instead text files? is it faster? pun. --- On Tue, 1/20/09, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] reading colors from txt file with repeat To: punch...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 1:46 PM punchik punchik wrote: Hello pd happy people, one question , i have a txt file with rgb colors . The txt file i have is something like this: 142 250 0 0 100 50 14 123 0 123 222 111 and so on. each line represents the rgb color where the first item in each line is red , the second green and the third blue. My question is this: i have a gem patch that creates random 3d shapes using nested repeat objects with geos. How can i read each line of my txt file (each color ) and apply to each repeated geo? for example if i have a sphere repeated 10 times, i would like that the first sphere would be the color of the first line in my txt file, the second sphere the second line in my txt file , the third sphere the third color in my txt file and so on. how can i do something like this something like the attached? but you probably really should use tables/arrays to store the values rather than using [textfile] fgmasdr IOhannes 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 1 1 #N canvas 142 81 784 483 10; #X obj 135 138 gemhead; #X obj 547 125 gemwin; #X msg 548 96 create \, 1; #X obj 135 195 repeat 10; #X obj 270 241 textfile; #X obj 135 166 t a b; #X msg 248 156 rewind; #X obj 135 299 color; #X obj 135 244 t a b; #X obj 135 350 translateXYZ 0.5 0 0; #X obj 135 326 sphere 0.1; #X obj 135 374 rotateXYZ 0 0 10; #X msg 327 165 read colors.txt cr; #X msg 341 304 rewind \, bang; #X obj 341 284 spigot; #X obj 455 199 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 273 209 spigot 1; #X obj 339 220 == 0; #X obj 409 220 t f f; #X text 477 197 -- turn on to loop through the file; #X floatatom 281 93 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 135 398 scale 0.9; #X connect 0 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 8 0; #X connect 4 0 7 1; #X connect 4 1 14 0; #X connect 5 0 3 0; #X connect 5 1 6 0; #X connect 6 0 16 0; #X connect 7 0 10 0; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 8 1 4 0; #X connect 9 0 11 0; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 11 0 21 0; #X connect 12 0 4 0; #X connect 13 0 4 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 15 0 18 0; #X connect 16 0 4 0; #X connect 17 0 16 1; #X connect 18 0 17 0; #X connect 18 1 14 1; #X connect 20 0 3 1; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd-extended and command line parameters
All, I cant get the command line parameters to work on Pd-extended. (OSX) Using the GUI 'startup' option doesn't work for me because I'm using 2 instances of PD spread over a 2 core machine . talking to each other via jackdmp. I need to access the command line parameters so that I can configure the instances differently. Is there a secret to get command line params to work with Pd-extended? Etienne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Yet more DS GUI excursions
Hi, Cool stuff! OT, This reminded me of when I first saw YouOS. One of these days someone may implement a full featured virtual desktop with a web browser and office applications, etc... all on top of Pd data structures. :) -- David Shimamoto Here's another experiment with datastructure-based GUI replacements. As with Chris (with his recent excellent expanding GUI concept), I'm a big big fan of hiding complexity, and I also like keeping details and interaction in context, as in, somehow connected to or growing from the control you're manipulating. Apple's doing this tons lately, e.g., the new iLife http://blog.cocoia.com/2009/01/07/iwork-ilife-09-ui-roundup/ (HUD panel changes is the only pic I can find, but there are many more examples in the new iMovie videos @ http://www.apple.com/ilife/imovie/). So, this is a simple context-bubble sketch: dragging the slider reveals a bubble with two different interpretations of the slider's value. With the new click message, these could me more than transient datalayers, and could graduate to being actual interactive controls. The biggest problem with this example is that the bounding box of the GOP needs to be bigger than the control to give room for the context popup to appear, meaning every control has a giant black rectangular halo. It would be really awesome if there was a way to hide that box, just like IOhannes added the option to hide the object name and arguments. Another really nice addition to DS would be variable opacity, so when I do a filledpolygon I can specify 9005 as the color to get a transparent red rather than just 900. That would be of great use for both these context bubbles as well as, say, a sample range selection box where you can still see the sample data under the selection. And as ever, a way to specify a persistent z-index for DS is pretty essential for any complex use. Okee, that's all for the moment Best Luke ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem, Particles, a tail?
Andrew, I think updating the coordinates of [part_source] by sending it arguments, rather than inserting a [translate] in the chain should work. -- David Shimamoto Dear all I'm attempting to create a gem graphing application. in essence I want objects to the right of the screen (moved by incoming data) with particles moving to the left, and so leaving a visible tail of particles moving to the left and showing where the source object has recently moved. The trouble is that a translate object anywhere in the particle chain not only moves the source but all the particles in the same direction. Does anyone know how I can move the source object but leave existing particles on their current course? God Bless Andrew Are you a PC? Upload your PC story and show the world Click Here! http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/122465942/direct/01/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] gemlist/spline_path issues
Hi guys. So I'm relatively new to PD, and right now I'm trying to make a set number of discrete objects (20 of them) created along a spline path. In the cityscape1 subpatch in the patch below, I've set up an array to be randomly populated on a bang from the main patch screen. I'd like the objects in the gemlist in the cityscape1 subpatch to use that array, via spline_path, to generate each object's y-axis value. Obviously, how I've set it up is simply creating a straight line of evenly placed circles, rather than conforming to the path as set. What am I doing wrong, or is there another way to do this? Thanks. Attachment #N canvas 1282 113 450 300 10; #X obj 60 185 gemwin; #X msg 45 159 create; #X msg 103 159 destroy; #X msg 83 124 dimen 1024 768; #X obj 25 189 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X msg 43 93 lighting 1; #X msg 50 67 lighting 0; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 letterbox 0; #X obj 26 34 gemhead; #X obj 26 59 color 0 0 0; #X obj 26 85 translate 0 5 0; #X obj 26 112 rectangle 9 2; #X obj 136 85 translate 0 -5 0; #X obj 135 112 rectangle 9 2; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X restore 201 76 pd letterbox; #N canvas 1252 399 602 414 cityscape1 1; #X obj 31 24 inlet; #X obj 320 -3 inlet; #X obj 31 51 alpha; #N canvas 802 631 450 300 lightarray 1; #X obj 19 13 inlet; #X obj 20 147 randomF 1; #X obj 20 69 f; #X obj 55 68 + 1; #X obj 19 39 metro 100; #X msg 20 120 stop; #N canvas 0 22 450 300 (subpatch) 0; #X array lightarray 8 float 5; #A 0 0.954794 0.628871 0.729569 0.513401 0.95223 0.916195 0.635712 0.717297; #X coords 0 1 7 0 200 140 1; #X restore 178 23 graph; #X obj 21 200 tabwrite lightarray; #X msg 87 67 0; #X obj 55 94 - 1; #X obj 55 120 sel 7; #X obj 20 172 moses 0.5; #X obj 87 172 * 2; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 0 0 8 0; #X connect 1 0 11 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 2 1; #X connect 3 0 9 0; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 8 0 2 1; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 9 0 7 1; #X connect 10 0 5 0; #X connect 11 0 12 0; #X connect 11 1 7 0; #X connect 12 0 7 0; #X restore 320 25 pd lightarray; #X obj 31 73 t b a; #X msg 31 96 20; #X obj 31 119 until; #X obj 31 143 gemlist; #X obj 31 166 circle 0.1; #X obj 32 214 gemlist_info; #X obj 103 240 unpack f f f; #X floatatom 102 268 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 139 268 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 175 268 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 217 268 spline_path lightarray; #X obj 32 190 translateXYZ 0.1 0 0; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 4 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 4 1 7 1; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 15 0; #X connect 9 4 10 0; #X connect 10 0 11 0; #X connect 10 1 12 0; #X connect 10 2 13 0; #X connect 12 0 14 0; #X connect 14 0 15 2; #X connect 15 0 9 0; #X restore 203 210 pd cityscape1; #X obj 202 111 gemhead; #X obj 203 135 rotateXYZ 0 0 0; #X obj 203 160 translateXYZ 0 0 0; #X obj 278 184 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 0 0; #X connect 4 0 0 0; #X connect 4 0 12 0; #X connect 5 0 0 0; #X connect 6 0 0 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 10 0 11 0; #X connect 11 0 8 0; #X connect 12 0 8 1; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gemlist/spline_path issues
Ok. I switched it to a double-gemhead situation, but the pd window is telling me there's no array to be read by spline_path. I've checked the spelling, rewritten the array, and can't figure this out for the life of me. pacemaker.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list