[PD] search paths

2011-02-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x3.htm#s5 Regardless of path, Pd should look first in the directory containing the patch before searching down the path. Pd does not automatically look in the current directory however; to enable that, include ``. in the path. The ``extra directory,

Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example

2011-02-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Why not always put your abstractions in the same directory as the patch?  (Or in a subdirectory if you want to organize them that way.)  It makes things more modular: e.g., you can just compress the containing directory and shoot it off rather than sending a separate attachment for

Re: [PD] Really random random from date and time

2011-02-15 Thread Chris McCormick
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:00:15AM +0100, Frank Barknecht wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 12:58:19AM +, Ed Kelly wrote: I'd like my patch to create a different random each time it's loaded. I'm using [urn] so I tried feeding a [random 500] - [seed $1( into the [urn], but every

Re: [PD] Music made with Pd

2011-02-15 Thread Eduardo Patricio
Thank you, Chris! Eduardo De: Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx Para: Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com Cc: Enviadas: Terça-feira, 15 de Fevereiro de 2011 8:42 Assunto: Re: [PD] Music made with Pd Cool! Chris. On Tue, Feb 01, 2011 at 09:01:07AM -0800, Eduardo Patricio wrote: A

Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example

2011-02-15 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hi, On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 03:43:35AM +0100, tim vets wrote: Quick and easy solution: copy the file 'reverb-echo.pd' to the same directory as where your own patch is located and then try again. Even quicker would be to use one of the three builtin reverbs by Miller in the extra dfirectory:

[PD] Scheduling events, libpd, and sequencing

2011-02-15 Thread Peter Kirn
Hi everyone, Thanks for the feedback on the timing discussion; I do feel that was useful. At some point, it may even be worth writing up a canonical answer there, alongside some tests. This still leaves me puzzling over some questions, though, in terms of sequencing

Re: [PD] [PD announce] timbreID spectrograms

2011-02-15 Thread William Brent
Sure, I'm glad this will be useful to someone other than me. And for the record, I'm still working on the color mapping in the spectrogram patch. It's a bit too dark at the moment, so that might be updated soon. On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 9:50 PM, Jarbas Jacome jand...@gmail.com wrote: great

Re: [PD] Scheduling events, libpd, and sequencing

2011-02-15 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 08:30:00AM -0500, Peter Kirn wrote: !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN You accidently had html-mail switched on. :) Thanks for the feedback on the timing discussion; I do feel that was useful. At some point, it may even be worth writing up a

Re: [PD] Scheduling events, libpd, and sequencing

2011-02-15 Thread Claude Heiland-Allen
On 15/02/11 13:30, Peter Kirn wrote: But what would be the most efficient way to send events to those objects for future scheduling? I have some code that allows you to cache incoming events (eg: from [netreceive]) and dispatch them all at once in 0 logical time. I called it [bundle]

Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example

2011-02-15 Thread Marco Donnarumma
In order to simplify the structure of paths to several library/objects in the recent Pd-extended releases, a pd-externals folder is created during the installation. I would generally recommend to make use of that folder for one's own library/objects and other libs. M I don't entirely follow

Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example

2011-02-15 Thread Morgan Packard
Thanks all, I had found the paths preference, and though I was setting it correctly, but apparently not. I moved my abstraction in to the same folder as my patch, and now things work correctly. -m- On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: In order to simplify

Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example

2011-02-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Why not always put your abstractions in the same directory as the patch?  (Or in a subdirectory if you want to organize them that way.)  It makes things more modular: e.g., you can just compress the containing directory and shoot it off rather than

Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter

2011-02-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: As well as in svn, where, for example, list-abs is in the abstractions folder, but there are plenty of libraries in externals that are made up only of abstractions. That might because it's forbidden for any externals to be in the abstractions

Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter

2011-02-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 13 Feb 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote: Once again, I(we've discussed this before) it seems that there is an urgent name/concept-convention need.  Just brainstorming, but a nice exercise would be: Could you please explain how this table ought to be filled ? That is, explain the meaning of

Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example

2011-02-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
It#39;s still a common vocabulary. You#39;re not rewriting the abstractions (or renaming them) every time. And in your case why not just have the several different patches all be in the same folder with the abstractions? -Jonathan ___

Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example

2011-02-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: It's still a common vocabulary. You're not rewriting the abstractions (or renaming them) every time. How do the users know (and ensure) that they're really the same ? Making copies like that, encourage per-project customisation of same-named

Re: [PD] Sigmund~ and tracks.

2011-02-15 Thread J bz
Hey William, Ho hum..., Cheers for having a look though. I'm not completely clear about the continuation flags? I can see from the help file that they're there but what do they mean? Perhaps this should be a new thread but why does sigmund have a frequency range of 100,000hz, and what would

Re: [PD] pd-kinect-skeleton

2011-02-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sat, 5 Feb 2011, philippe boisnard wrote: my new search with kinect and danse (I prepare an exhibition with a dancer Estelle de Montalember in 2 weeks) http://databaz.org/images2/kinviddans.mov You know it's using pd when... ... the programme is supposed to generate single letters, but

Re: [PD] pd-kinect-skeleton

2011-02-15 Thread philippe boisnard
yep it's a little bug of my generator letters. But it's fixe p Le 15 févr. 2011 à 22:56, Mathieu Bouchard a écrit : On Sat, 5 Feb 2011, philippe boisnard wrote: my new search with kinect and danse (I prepare an exhibition with a dancer Estelle de Montalember in 2 weeks)

Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example

2011-02-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 2/15/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: mor...@morganpackard.com, glitch...@gmail.com, pd-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] Scheduling events, libpd, and sequencing

2011-02-15 Thread Peter Kirn
You accidently had html-mail switched on. :) Argh. Stupid Thunderbird. In this context qlist and textfile are eqivalent: qlist is just a textfile with a metro/delay and a sender already built in. Both objects do things inside of Pd and the metros work with subsample accuracy. I don't

Re: [PD] Scheduling events, libpd, and sequencing

2011-02-15 Thread Peter Kirn
I have some code that allows you to cache incoming events (eg: from [netreceive]) and dispatch them all at once in 0 logical time.  I called it [bundle] because of the vague similarity to OSC bundles. Something like begin, foo, bar, baz, end  /* with arbitrary time between messages */  |

Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter

2011-02-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 2/15/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org, pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2011, 7:19 PM On

[PD] Abstractions x Externals

2011-02-15 Thread Alexandre Porres
Btw-- the manual makes a distinction between abstractions and externs. But it shouldn't, right? I mean, it's not real in practice, for abstractions can be externals... porres ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

Re: [PD] algorithms for drawing filter response curves

2011-02-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Nice, it works for me! I'll take a stab at making it work as a Pd object now, I'll try tonight. .hc On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 18:31 -0500, Mike Moser-Booth wrote: Hey Hans, Here's an update of filterview. There are now procs for the following filters: lowpass highpass allpass

Re: [PD] Sigmund~ and tracks.

2011-02-15 Thread William Brent
I'm not completely clear about the continuation flags?  I can see from the help file that they're there but what do they mean? On every analysis period, several track reports are output in a burst. These provide the frequency and amplitude of what [sigmund~] considers the most important

Re: [PD] Sigmund~ and tracks.

2011-02-15 Thread Miller Puckette
Perhaps this should be a new thread but why does sigmund have a frequency range of 100,000hz, and what would be a decent useable range from practical experience? Strange - I never read that part of the help patch carefully. It's even stranger because it actually says the default

Re: [PD] Abstractions x Externals

2011-02-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Alexandre Porres wrote:  Btw-- the manual makes a distinction between abstractions and externs. But it shouldn't, right? I mean, it's not real in practice, for abstractions can be externals... Which definitions are you using ? I've never seen « abstractions are

Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter

2011-02-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Tue, 2/15/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Yeah, that's nonsense. Pd-vanilla is the origin of the m_pd.h interface for making externals. Btw-- the manual makes a distinction between abstractions and externs. It needs to, at

Re: [PD] Abstractions x Externals

2011-02-15 Thread Alexandre Porres
I didn't say they strictly are, but that they can be (as with list-abs). alex 2011/2/16 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Alexandre Porres wrote: Btw-- the manual makes a distinction between abstractions and externs. But it shouldn't, right? I mean, it's not real

Re: [PD] Abstractions x Externals

2011-02-15 Thread Pedro Lopes
For me external is different from abstraction. For what I understand there's a need for a joint concept, one that says this visual object box is something. Is that what you call class Mathieu? best, Pedro p.s.: this kinda answers another thread, where I posted that table of concepts mental

Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example

2011-02-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Tue, 2/15/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: It's still a common vocabulary. You're not rewriting the abstractions (or renaming them) every time. How do the users know (and ensure) that they're really the same ? Well if the user is

Re: [PD] Abstractions x Externals

2011-02-15 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011, Alexandre Porres wrote: I didn't say they strictly are, but that they can be (as with list-abs). I don't see any externals in list-abs. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray,

Re: [PD] Abstractions x Externals

2011-02-15 Thread Miller Puckette
I think the term 'external' was coined by David Zicarelli (in the context of the M program, before Max) to mean an external code segment. I've always used it to mean a calss defined in a dynamically linked object module (presumably written in C). I use the word 'abstractions' to refer to patches

Re: [PD] iSight, pix_video, Mac Books Pro and Pd-extended 0.42.5

2011-02-15 Thread patrick mcnameeking
Hi there, I just experienced the exact same error on a black macbook 4,1 2.4 Ghz. I went ahead and created my patch and then opened it in PD-Vanilla and after importing all the necessary libraries and it worked fine. I just tested the patch out in extended 0.42.5 again and it is running

Re: [PD] Abstractions x Externals

2011-02-15 Thread Alexandre Porres
I see. I was thinking of externals as anything that can be loaded as an object or library - like any non native/pd vanilla object - at startup. Therefore, my concept of externals is broad, and can include abstractions if their path is listed on Pd preferences. I don't use vanilla, so I don't

Re: [PD] algorithms for drawing filter response curves

2011-02-15 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ok, I got it working in a limited way as a Pd object and I was controlling my first filter against noise! Good fun. You can still run the .tcl file as a standalone GUI for dev work. Get it from my git: https://github.com/pd-projects/filterview It would be quite nice if the phase was

Re: [PD] Scheduling events, libpd, and sequencing

2011-02-15 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 05:56:36PM -0500, Peter Kirn wrote: The notion is that the language side of things - Java, C++, Objective-C, Python, whatever -- will have the logic that determines how events are scheduled, and would handle user input that might alter the sequence of those events. The