Re: [PD] building Pd-ext/GEM for Windows
i found indeed a work-around, or better to say something that's even much more simple then i had. so for now i'm alright with the tools i have for the PIII's. it leaves open the cases of the compiling/building going wrong for Windows and/or without SSE2. if needed i'm perfectly willing to assist in testing solutions for that. iohannes, when you think it's useful i could send you the dll, maybe you can see what's wrong with it. rolf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] ezpst
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: You might want to add link to it in the puredata.info downloads page, here's how: http://puredata.info/docs/sitedocs/AddingYourProjectToDownloads Thank you,I added it here: http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/ezpst/ Using ezpst is no more difficult than using Max's [preset] , I promise ! Cheers, -- urban jc...@i2pmail.org http://chiselapp.com/user/jcage/repository/rdk/ ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
hey Hans, I am just wondering. As far as all the help patches go in extended, especially for teaching purposes and also out of the box, are we planning on implementing [import] in all patches in final release? Many (most) help patches get .. couldn't create out of the box from PD help browser. And I agree with the whole using [import], [declare], [ggee/shell], etc thing to load libraries rather than the old plist way but then im sure your aware all the help patches will need to load these libraries just thought I would ask what the plan is on that... Cheers m On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
- Original Message - From: m.e.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds hey Hans, I am just wondering. As far as all the help patches go in extended, especially for teaching purposes and also out of the box, are we planning on implementing [import] in all patches in final release? Many (most) help patches get .. couldn't create out of the box from PD help browser. All objects in the help patches I sampled from the doc browser got created correctly on Debian Wheezy 64-bit. (Tried patches from cyclone, mapping, and several other libs.) Which help patches give you these errors, and on which OS? And I agree with the whole using [import], [declare], [ggee/shell], etc thing to load libraries rather than the old plist way but then im sure your aware all the help patches will need to load these libraries just thought I would ask what the plan is on that... Libdir help patches don't need any changes since they are located in the same directory as the binaries for the classes they reference. References to objects in other libraries are made with the pddp/helplink object in the form of [pddp/helplink lib/objectname]. There may be stray externals in some supplementary help patches like tutorials in the form [objectname]. -Jonathan Cheers m On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
Bug: scrollbars appear before they need to. Help patch for [float] has scrollbars, but in the last version of Pd-extended the same patch didn't get scrollbars. -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:15 PM Subject: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
ok... maybe i spoke to fast regarding many/most sorry. im on osx and i think i was specifically talking about Gem help patches witch i forgot to mention. so yes... many/most Gem help patches cant create object out of the box some in some other libs too... sfruit, zexy (needs [import hexloader]?, some others m On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: m.e.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds hey Hans, I am just wondering. As far as all the help patches go in extended, especially for teaching purposes and also out of the box, are we planning on implementing [import] in all patches in final release? Many (most) help patches get .. couldn't create out of the box from PD help browser. All objects in the help patches I sampled from the doc browser got created correctly on Debian Wheezy 64-bit. (Tried patches from cyclone, mapping, and several other libs.) Which help patches give you these errors, and on which OS? And I agree with the whole using [import], [declare], [ggee/shell], etc thing to load libraries rather than the old plist way but then im sure your aware all the help patches will need to load these libraries just thought I would ask what the plan is on that... Libdir help patches don't need any changes since they are located in the same directory as the binaries for the classes they reference. References to objects in other libraries are made with the pddp/helplink object in the form of [pddp/helplink lib/objectname]. There may be stray externals in some supplementary help patches like tutorials in the form [objectname]. -Jonathan Cheers m On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
This happens often on Mac OS X because the [pd META] subpatch gets obscured by the little handle for resizing. I'm thinking we can just write a script that'll move the [pd META] subpatch a couple pixels up and to the left, and it'll fix it everywhere. I'm happy to write that script. My experience with the scrolling logic is that is takes a ton of testing to make even small changes to it because there are so many edge cases that can be horribly affected. .hc On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Bug: scrollbars appear before they need to. Help patch for [float] has scrollbars, but in the last version of Pd-extended the same patch didn't get scrollbars. -Jonathan - Original Message - From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at To: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 11:15 PM Subject: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I hate it when they say, He gave his life for his country. Nobody gives their life for anything. We steal the lives of these kids. -Admiral Gene LeRocque ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
When you get a couldn't create in a help patch, that's a bug that should be filed in the tracker. Even better, attach the fixed help patch. .hc On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:01 AM, m.e.grimm wrote: ok... maybe i spoke to fast regarding many/most sorry. im on osx and i think i was specifically talking about Gem help patches witch i forgot to mention. so yes... many/most Gem help patches cant create object out of the box some in some other libs too... sfruit, zexy (needs [import hexloader]?, some others m On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:42 AM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: - Original Message - From: m.e.grimm megr...@gmail.com To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: Pd List pd-l...@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds hey Hans, I am just wondering. As far as all the help patches go in extended, especially for teaching purposes and also out of the box, are we planning on implementing [import] in all patches in final release? Many (most) help patches get .. couldn't create out of the box from PD help browser. All objects in the help patches I sampled from the doc browser got created correctly on Debian Wheezy 64-bit. (Tried patches from cyclone, mapping, and several other libs.) Which help patches give you these errors, and on which OS? And I agree with the whole using [import], [declare], [ggee/shell], etc thing to load libraries rather than the old plist way but then im sure your aware all the help patches will need to load these libraries just thought I would ask what the plan is on that... Libdir help patches don't need any changes since they are located in the same directory as the binaries for the classes they reference. References to objects in other libraries are made with the pddp/helplink object in the form of [pddp/helplink lib/objectname]. There may be stray externals in some supplementary help patches like tutorials in the form [objectname]. -Jonathan Cheers m On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc 'You people have such restrictive dress for women,’ she said, hobbling away in three inch heels and panty hose to finish out another pink-collar temp pool day. - “Hijab Scene #2, by Mohja Kahf ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again
now i used the build of first of feb. osx pd-extended105x86 still the same: For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. it would be cool to switch, but i can live with both: pd in German (my mother tongue), or my operating system in English.. best wishes, jo On 30.01.2012, at 20:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Did you use today's or yesterday's build? .hc On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Joson Android wrote: For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. best wishes, jo On 29.01.2012, at 20:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote: Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote: Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android: One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? MacOSX10.6.7 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this feature with 10.6 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that: http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/ however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in english. This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple languages are implemented in Pd(-ext). I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages. Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you. Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg and unfortunately it doesn't work for me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try to open the plist in xcode it tells me that it has been corrupted. replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any more. Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is. I checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the Info.plist in the app with the attached one. .hc Info.plist If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. “We must become the change we want to see. - Mahatma Gandhi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again
Are you sure this is a problem with Pd? Try other apps and see what happens there. For me the Language Switcher launches the wrong Pd, but that's a bug in that app, I think. I just tried Language Switcher on some other apps, it doesn't seem to like non-Cocoa apps. I recommend contacting the Language Switcher developer about that. .hc On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Joson Android wrote: now i used the build of first of feb. osx pd-extended105x86 still the same: For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. it would be cool to switch, but i can live with both: pd in German (my mother tongue), or my operating system in English.. best wishes, jo On 30.01.2012, at 20:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Did you use today's or yesterday's build? .hc On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Joson Android wrote: For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. best wishes, jo On 29.01.2012, at 20:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote: Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote: Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android: One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? MacOSX10.6.7 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this feature with 10.6 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that: http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/ however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in english. This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple languages are implemented in Pd(-ext). I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages. Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you. Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg and unfortunately it doesn't work for me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try to open the plist in xcode it tells me that it has been corrupted. replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any more. Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is. I checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the Info.plist in the app with the attached one. .hc Info.plist If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. “We must become the change we want to see. - Mahatma Gandhi There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner:At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find:Hi Hans,i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patchon os x sometimes only this message appears:(i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot)then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue.you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang.then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file.i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect)problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :(and there is a minor translation bug:all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable onesother than this:thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass.m. signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
hey max (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) im not sure if that a bug or what. i can copy/paste from pd window only with keycommands apple-c (copy) and apple-v(paste) NOT from menu, right click, etc.. I just noticed this earlier today myself m On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAk8pk64ACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6LTrgCcD+VAEgUqPRG88mU7Yn74MC6v c74Ani3fJmX7hkKj0HHJjTFo9b7OFarA =Z3xG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 23:15 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc Just wanted to point out that the package for wheezy (i386) has an unmet dependency: x-ttcidfont-conf After googling a bit it appears it has been removed.. http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/x-ttcidfont-conf.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Language Design / Conlang: do you know any examples in Sound Art or Arts in general?
Andy your suggestion meets pretty well what I have in mind, I'll be experimenting with the combination of tools you mentioned. Thanks! 2012/1/22 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Le 2012-01-21 à 20:11:00, Andy Farnell a écrit : Is that what Francophone Canadian sounds like!! ? It's one quite common accent (apart from the [r] mistake). People would tend to always use [ʀ] instead of [r], or always [r] instead of [ʀ]. Overall, speech tends to range between this and what's listed in the dictionary, depending on how informal the speech is. Anyway I can't hear it using espeak or mbrola because not sure how to translate UTF16 IPA into phoneme mnemonics, eg this doesn't work: You mean that there are people who use UTF16 on unix outside of java context ? I thought that everyone on unix was moving to UTF8 instead (except java). Try iconv. __**__** __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again
Cocoa is what Apple calls their native GUI toolkit. Pd uses Tcl/Tk for the GUI, so its not Cocoa. Apple Mail is definitely Cocoa, as are basically all of the apps that Apple includes. Something like Firefox is not a Cocoa app. .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 18:14 +0100, Joson Android wrote: I'm not sure whether it is a problem with Pd at all. With other apps it works though, tested it with mail. I don't understand the cocoa hint. But as i said, its not my biggest concern to get it running, so please don't you put too much brain in it either.. best, jo On 01.02.2012, at 18:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Are you sure this is a problem with Pd? Try other apps and see what happens there. For me the Language Switcher launches the wrong Pd, but that's a bug in that app, I think. I just tried Language Switcher on some other apps, it doesn't seem to like non-Cocoa apps. I recommend contacting the Language Switcher developer about that. .hc On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Joson Android wrote: now i used the build of first of feb. osx pd-extended105x86 still the same: For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. it would be cool to switch, but i can live with both: pd in German (my mother tongue), or my operating system in English.. best wishes, jo On 30.01.2012, at 20:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Did you use today's or yesterday's build? .hc On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Joson Android wrote: For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. best wishes, jo On 29.01.2012, at 20:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote: Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote: Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android: One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? MacOSX10.6.7 Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this feature with 10.6 Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that: http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/ however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in english. This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple languages are implemented in Pd(-ext). I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages. Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you. Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg and unfortunately it doesn't work for me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try to open the plist in xcode it tells me that it has been corrupted. replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any more. Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is. I checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the Info.plist in the app with the attached one. .hc Info.plist If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. “We must become the change we want to see. - Mahatma Gandhi There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
Hey mark, That sounds like a bug to me, please file :) .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 15:07 -0500, m.e.grimm wrote: hey max (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) im not sure if that a bug or what. i can copy/paste from pd window only with keycommands apple-c (copy) and apple-v(paste) NOT from menu, right click, etc.. I just noticed this earlier today myself m On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Max abonneme...@revolwear.com wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iEYEARECAAYFAk8pk64ACgkQ3EB7kzgMM6LTrgCcD +VAEgUqPRG88mU7Yn74MC6v c74Ani3fJmX7hkKj0HHJjTFo9b7OFarA =Z3xG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- m.e.grimm | m.f.a | ed.m. megr...@gmail.com _ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 23:17 +0100, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 23:15 -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ .hc Just wanted to point out that the package for wheezy (i386) has an unmet dependency: x-ttcidfont-conf After googling a bit it appears it has been removed.. http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/x-ttcidfont-conf.html That package is there for Gem, as far as I know. Do any Gem people know if we still need that package? Looking at the Debian info, it seems that this is likely temporary. All the Ubuntu releases currently include it, for example. .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43.1 beta builds
About the Pt_Start() crash, that seems to be related to tclpd, from my experience. Try this and see if it makes it go away: sudo rm -rf \ /Applications/Pd-0.43.1-extended-20120201.app/Contents/Resources/startup/tclpd Magic glass is great, I am bummed it languished for so long, I think Joe Sarlo wrote that in 2003. Then Ico revived it and ported it to 0.42 in pd-l2ork, and I took it from there. .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 20:34 +0100, Max wrote: Am 01.02.2012 um 05:15 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: At this point, the Pd-extended 0.43.1 builds are definitely beta quality. I have fixed all bugs that I could find, and I just taught a class with it. Its working well. Please try it out with your patches and let me know what you find: Hi Hans, i have a big problem with the latest builds. if you open a patch on os x sometimes only this message appears: (i can't copy paste this message hence the screenshot) then the patch is actually open, but it doesn't show in the windows menue. you can tell when you make a patch that produces audio and using loadbang or opening a gemwin with a loadbang. then when you doubleclick on the file again it will open a SECOND instance of the file. i narrowed it down to a pd file which has only two objects in it: [declare -lib Gem] and [pix_video] it looks like i should post that bug on the gem bugtracker… (import instead of declare has the same effect) problem is that those two objects are in 90% of my files :( and there is a minor translation bug: all new patches are called Untitled-1 and i don't see that string amongst the translatable ones other than this: thank you for the work on it, i love the magic glass. m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT: faster than Fourier transform
I read about this in New Scientist. It seemed interesting at first, but I am fairly sure that it is quite specific in its applications. It reminds me of the mpeg 1 layer 3 approach, which is to psychoacoustically encode the audio with less data by removing parts of the signal we don't hear. I think the application (telecoms) is more concerned with locating free radio space than accessing partials in a better way, although I may be wrong. I'm sure it will have audio applications eventually... Still the problem with any window-based FFT is that we have to get enough points (e.g. 512, 1024) before we can do the analysis, so there is always a delay (44100/1024 = ~43ms) between live input and output (latency). Much more interesting is the sliding phase vocoder (Russell Bradford, Richard Dobson, and John ffitch, 2005) where the FFT is adjusted in each sample rather than each frame, and the latency is significantly reduced. They also told me it is capable of things like FM synthesis with a live input as the carrier, although I haven't heard any examples of this (yet). Ed Reference:dream.cs.bath.ac.uk/Papers/spv-icmc2007.pdf Gemnotes-0.1alpha: Live music notation for Pure Data http://sharktracks.co.uk/ From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca To: Charles Henry czhe...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, 25 January 2012, 22:25 Subject: Re: [PD] OT: faster than Fourier transform Le 2012-01-25 à 16:16:00, Charles Henry a écrit : I've wondered about that too-from a perceptual point of view. There's not much differentiation among noise signals. They all mostly sound the same Well, the brain still has to extract enough info from them to have a general idea of what kind of noise it is (a rough shape of spectrum), and ESPECIALLY extract the non-noise portions of the spectrum. Even though there's a very large number of dimensions for variation, they must have a sparse representation somewhere (in the brains... brains...) but the FFT? no way... Well, there are perceptual models that try to separate «noise» from «non-noise» for easier encoding and stuff... __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Resonant filter using cpole~ czero~
Hi all, Here is my first attempt at making a resonant lowpass filter using cpole~ and czero~ objects. It's the first version I've made which actually sounds halfway towards what I want to achieve, which is a decent diode-ladder or transistor-ladder filter emulation. I want to make this using only vanilla objects, particularly rpole~, cpole~ etc. so that they can be ultra-portable and signal-controlled. Also, http://www.timstinchcombe.co.uk/index.php?pge=poles#diode Does anyone else have any ideas, or patches we can share? Ed Gemnotes-0.1alpha: Live music notation for Pure Data http://sharktracks.co.uk/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Resonant filter using cpole~ czero~
Ooops! Here's the patch. Gemnotes-0.1alpha: Live music notation for Pure Data http://sharktracks.co.uk/ filter_0.01.pd Description: Binary data ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again
Le 2012-02-01 à 21:21:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : Cocoa is what Apple calls their native GUI toolkit. Pd uses Tcl/Tk for the GUI, so its not Cocoa. Apple Mail is definitely Cocoa, as are basically all of the apps that Apple includes. Something like Firefox is not a Cocoa app. Pd is «half» of a Cocoa app, because on one hand Tcl/Tk on OSX is a portability layer over Cocoa, but on the other hand doesn't follow every convention specified by Cocoa, and isn't designed to let a Tcl/Tk app access every existing Cocoa feature either. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
