[PD] Pd activities/places at the west coast? netpd tour?
Hi all I'm traveling with my family at the west coast of North America, between Vancouver and San Francisco until the end of the year. We're certainly going to visit at least some of the major cities near the coast line. We don't have any particular plans or schedules, but I'd enjoy to take the chance to connect with Pd people in the areas we're going to visit. If you know of Patching Circles or have an exhibition running or know of any other Pd related activities, please drop me a line off-list. In shameless manner of self-promotion, I'm also looking for places to present netpd, either by giving workshops or having live jams with interested people. If you know of suitable locations, please let me know. Thanks and take care! Roman -- http://www.netpd.org/About -- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Sum of delays...
Hi, On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 02:20:28PM -0300, Mario Mey wrote: > I think most of s/r and throw/catch are between abstracts. If I want > to sort that objects (as Theory of Operation says: creating receive~ > after send~)... I don't know how to do it. To trick Pd into sorting signal objects, that are not directly connected with some patchcords (like sends), you must put them into subpatches or abstractions and then connect these. For example this here will be unsorted: [sig~ 1] [sig~ 2] [sig~ 3] But this will be sorted: [sig~ 1] | [sig~ 2] | [sig~ 3] and this will also be sorted: [pd sig~1-inside] | [pd sig~2-inside] | [pd sig~3-inside] where each subpatch has something like this inside: [inlet~] [outlet~] [sig~ 1] The 3 objects inside the subpatch don't need do be connected at all, only the subpatches have to be connected to force an order. In the end, you have now tricked Pd to execute signals in the order 1, 2 and 3, although they aren't connected to anything. The order, in which these objects have been created doesn't matter and you should never rely on creation order anyway. Instead of subpatches you can use abstraction, but you have to connect these just as you have connected the subpatches. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Sum of delays...
I think most of s/r and throw/catch are between abstracts. If I want to sort that objects (as Theory of Operation says: creating receive~ after send~)... I don't know how to do it. Does the "sorting" include creation of abstracts? I mean, should I cut-paste from the objects (s/r, throw/catch AND abstracts) at the start of the pipeline (mic) to the last (output)? And so inside each abstract? I'm confused... and I'll be more if I would have to do it. Thanks. Mensaje original Asunto: Sum of delays... Fecha: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:52:37 -0300 De: Mario Mey Para: pd-list I was guessing... if I made a sum of delays using so many send~ / receive~ and throw~ / catch~... For a full use of my patch (mic input -> FX-A -> FX-B -> output), I have this structure (inside subpatches and abstracts): adc~ s~ mic r~ mic s~ console-in-a r~ console-in-a s~ pre-fx-a r~ pre-fx-a throw~ post-fx-a catch~ post-fx-a s~ console-out-a r~ console-out-a s~ console-in-b r~ console-in-b s~ pre-fx-b r~ pre-fx-b throw~ post-fx-b catch~ post-fx-b s~ console-out-b r~ console-out-b s~ out r~ out dac~ Does every send~ / receive~ and throw~ / catch~ adds a 1 block delay? I'm using 48000, so, do I have 1.333ms * 10 = 13ms of delay because of using that objects? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Sum of delays...
I was guessing... if I made a sum of delays using so many send~ / receive~ and throw~ / catch~... For a full use of my patch (mic input -> FX-A -> FX-B -> output), I have this structure (inside subpatches and abstracts): adc~ s~ mic r~ mic s~ console-in-a r~ console-in-a s~ pre-fx-a r~ pre-fx-a throw~ post-fx-a catch~ post-fx-a s~ console-out-a r~ console-out-a s~ console-in-b r~ console-in-b s~ pre-fx-b r~ pre-fx-b throw~ post-fx-b catch~ post-fx-b s~ console-out-b r~ console-out-b s~ out r~ out dac~ Does every send~ / receive~ and throw~ / catch~ adds a 1 block delay? I'm using 48000, so, do I have 1.333ms * 10 = 13ms of delay because of using that objects? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Sum of delays...
On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 01:52:37PM -0300, Mario Mey wrote: > I was guessing... if I made a sum of delays using so many send~ / > receive~ and throw~ / catch~... > > For a full use of my patch (mic input -> FX-A -> FX-B -> output), I > have this structure (inside subpatches and abstracts): ... > Does every send~ / receive~ and throw~ / catch~ adds a 1 block delay? No, not at all. They only need to add a block of delay, if you use a feedback path, which you are not as far as I see. However you have to force the order of execution of your non-local signal connections with s~/r~ and throw~/catch~ to avoid delays that Pd might introduce when doing its own ordering. Do this by adding some subpatches as described in the help file: 3.audio.examples/G05.execution.order.pd or use direct connections where possible. > I'm using 48000, so, do I have 1.333ms * 10 = 13ms of delay because > of using that objects? Block delays with non-local connections will only happen if you don't do order forcing. But if you are careful, you will have zero delay. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredata.info strange behaviour using Google.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-09-19 17:34, Mario Mey wrote: > Everytime I visit puredata.info through google, every "d" and "com" > in the page are highlighted in yellow. If I refresh (F5) the page, > it is the same. But, if I click in address and press Enter, the > highlight dissappear. I think it is something in POST... > > If I search "pure data 0.44", then I click in the first link, "d" > and "44" are highlighted. > > It is so strange... now, I tried again, the same link and only > "com" are highlighted. Try this link: > > http://www.google.com.ar/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpuredata.info%2Fdocs%2Fmanuals%2Fpd%2Fx2.htm&ei=Qxc7UtbIEIK3iwK1k4C4DQ&usg=AFQjCNG-AyYLgOX6CkJARANJvkgxHzSsdw&sig2=U9wSrxsBPqsW108sJu3KIA > > > > It's about google? puredata.info? purdata.info highlights search terms. e.g. http://puredata.info/Members/ktsoukalas/pd-volos/?searchterm=meeting will have "meeting" highlighted. i guess that google-redirects somehow contain hidden search terms. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlI7Hb8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRUMACgwkcNdzYiG94ZYaqNF4gS2Tl1 agQAnRbmFOLGkIVWFumJ8hQ/QwsV1V96 =5WQE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] puredata.info strange behaviour using Google.
Everytime I visit puredata.info through google, every "d" and "com" in the page are highlighted in yellow. If I refresh (F5) the page, it is the same. But, if I click in address and press Enter, the highlight dissappear. I think it is something in POST... If I search "pure data 0.44", then I click in the first link, "d" and "44" are highlighted. It is so strange... now, I tried again, the same link and only "com" are highlighted. Try this link: http://www.google.com.ar/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCwQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpuredata.info%2Fdocs%2Fmanuals%2Fpd%2Fx2.htm&ei=Qxc7UtbIEIK3iwK1k4C4DQ&usg=AFQjCNG-AyYLgOX6CkJARANJvkgxHzSsdw&sig2=U9wSrxsBPqsW108sJu3KIA It's about google? puredata.info? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
One more thing can be annoying on OSX: If you open a second instance of Pd, the same patch as in the first will be opened. One good thing to do is to create an AppleScript for opening Pd from the Terminal: * Open AppleScript Editor and past the line: (of course adapt Pd-.app) tell application "Terminal" to do script "/Applications/Pd-0.45-2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd" * Export as Application and put wherever you want.. Now you can open multiple instances of Pd with that .app, and patches won't be loaded automatically. Actually funny how complicated things get because of "user experience optimizations". Matthias On 9/18/13 6:22 PM, Peter Venus wrote: Hello i assume, you are working on OSX: got to system preferences, click on the General Settings tab un-tick the box "restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps" cheers, Peter Am 18.09.13 17:05, schrieb IOhannes m zmölnig: On 09/18/13 16:01, Olivier Baudry wrote: Dear all Is there any function to prevent the opening of last patch when you start pd or pd-extended? how do you trigger that behaviour? it doesn't do that here. fgmasdr IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] prevent opening of patches
> i assume, you are working on OSX: > got to system preferences, > click on the General Settings tab > un-tick the box "restore windows when quitting and re-opening apps" > cheers, > Peter > > Yes, it's a new "feature" of Lion OSX 10.7 and 10.8. It is extremely annoying with Pd, because as soon as Pd try to reopen some already dead sockets everything crashes without warning or log. You can lock the pd folder, so to keep the configuration saving system running for other software. Here's the how-to on puredata.org by Dan Wilcox: http://puredata.info/docs/tutorials/HowToTurnOffResumeWindowsForPDOnMacOSX107Lion I don't have Mac, but had to solve this issue all the time in my last workshop this past months. M ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
