Re: [PD] maths and music
Is this sound engineered in Pd? If yes - I find it excellent. - GeorgeKer http://tinyurl.com/georgeker path_to_san...@joindiaspora.com - On 24 March 2011 18:42, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Wed, 23 Mar 2011, ronald kuivila wrote: Music for 88 is a series of piano pieces that are quite charming. I particlarly like 88's, which simply a series of ways to playing all 88 notes on the piano once. (In the score, the first iteration is presented followed by an ellipsis. with the overall breakdown of notes represented as a simple factoring, i.e. 4 * 22, (5 +3) * 11) Ah, btw, I didn't know Tom Johnson's work, but just like him, I composed something revolving around Pascal's triangle. I made it last spring. Here is the full recording : http://artengine.ca/matju/musique/matju_-_gamelan_binomial_version_trois.mp3 ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] maths and music
I think it's very hard to succeed in engineering such a sound in Pd from scratch. Anyway, thanks for the share! - GeorgeKer http://tinyurl.com/georgeker path_to_san...@joindiaspora.com - On 25 March 2011 03:18, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, George Ker wrote: If yes - I find it excellent. And what if it isn't ? What do you think it is made with, when you listen to it ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Download Pd?
For starters: 1. Put the download folder back (attached from archive.org from beginning of January). 2. Don't make the first distribution in the list an alpha release of library that has no stable release for download. (Better candidate would be Pd-ext or Vanilla.) I'd like that too. I thought also a generally less clustered site would be also friendly. thanks for you efforts - GeorgeKer http://tinyurl.com/georgeker path_to_san...@joindiaspora.com - ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Download Pd?
2011/3/4 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com I don't need it, i just thought it was confusing... Perhaps it isn't. Yes, it is. When someone asked me what version of Pd should download and from where last week, I realised how confusing is this and how unfriendly for a newcomer. You have to search to even find the main forum of the program. Never mind, no objection intended - GeorgeKer http://tinyurl.com/georgeker path_to_san...@joindiaspora.com - ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Help FLOSS Manuals @ Open Web Awards
Looks interesting +1 - GeorgeKer http://tinyurl.com/georgeker path_to_san...@joindiaspora.com - On 4 February 2011 02:46, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: Thanks everyone! D. On 2/3/11 10:08 PM, :a wrote: +1 -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 25: Cascades ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Showcasing PD
Yeap, and talk NERDY ;) On 1 December 2010 22:33, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Do a VJ thing. control it with a wii Video theremins go over well too pp From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Andrew Faraday [jbtur...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 3:24 PM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] Showcasing PD Hey Guys Here's the situation, I've been invited to talk to a group of techies on PD for half an hour this friday (the 3rd), there's basically two options. Either I do a basic introduction to Pd, it's benefits and why I like it as a medium/language. Or the one I'm leaning towards now, A quickly thrown together example of something you can do in PD. I'm currently thinking that I could easily put together a plan to code a simple instrument from a USB controller within half an hour. Thus showing that a lot can be achieved in a relatively short space of time with some Pd knowledge. Has anyone got any ideas how I might try to impress people with the capabilities of PD? Cheers Andrew ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dub chords in Pd
Will it be real or just a digital imitation? :D http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-414-anyone-nice-cup-tea On 29 October 2010 12:43, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: Ahem... I'll go have my coffee now. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] markov chains?
Yes, I remember that post :/ There is a simple example in the Help browser: 0_Pd/2.control.examples/21.markov.chain.pd On 30 September 2010 21:45, L.J. potaxpo...@gmail.com wrote: looking for implementations of markov chains i found http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2009/may/23/markov-chains-pure-data/ but the page seems to be gone? can anybody point me to some simple markov patches? appreciated ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] I'm on unix, I'm much better than windows users! (was Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!)
Well, let me be more clear. The last thing I wanted to be is offensive. you advocate to stop maintaining Pd for windows No I don't. I said clearly: So, my opinion is to just be more consentrated on Mac/GNU-Linux support. . Because, I think more people participating in Pd are in a different OS from windows. By the way, I don't use IE7, I use Opera for 10 years now (which I configured to acess my accounts and mails from both windows and ubuntu). I see you more... agreeing with me for how people should treat the Win OS (and MacOS of course) than you think. And curiously, at the same time you said GNU-Linux is so great, you moved out of it to Mac - where you have to pay double the amount for the hardware, and the manufacturer even goes to the trouble of making sure every laptop model has a different electricity cable, so that you have to spend more money you case you loose it. ...At least I don't call mac users a bunch of preformatted hipsters who stand for hours in line to be the first to buy whatever crap Jobs launches on the market. Is this let the battle begin kind of paragraph? I allready told that I UNFORTUNATELY moved to Mac because of it's support for audio producing and left the strictly GNU-linux user side of me. Everyone has his reasons using the OS he has installed, eventually. I have a facebook account, which I use to see how other people are doing - including some of the most advanced pd users present on this list, they post more on it than I do. Then you should add me. Nothing against Facebook using, I'm against Farmville-like invitations. http://tinyurl.com/2v8fhps On 18 September 2010 01:30, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I' m not a PD advanced user but here is my story: I think the dilemma is Do we need more users for PD (and make it work perfectly in Windows too) or we need to aim the PD development for Linux/ Mac users (and don't waste our limited resources)? *Well , I have seen on youtube etc people using windows and they are experts of PureData* but how many are they really? One of the reasons I chose to run GNU-Linux on my previous setup (besides the xp partition) are things you can have in it. And yes, PD was one of my major reasons! I unfortunately had then to buy a Mac because of the support of audio applications generally. Ok , most of people using a computer have Windows on their setup and in countries like Greece ... you have to even use it in your university. BUT: Do really people care about programs like PD or the ideology/democratic openess behind GNU-Linux when they use windows? Most of us had the first choice for our system of windows and we MOVED when we saw what we can and we cannot do in it. So, my opinion is to just be more consentrated on Mac/GNU-Linux support. There are not too many people who will really have the interest to learn Pd in depth and then browsing with IE7 their Facebook accounts. I honestly don't want to make Pd/Win users feel stupid. No, but you just said something like pd is too valuable for windows, these guys can't appreciate the beauty of it, and they just want to be fed whatever the big bo$$ puts in their mouths, and advocate to stop maintaining Pd for windows. And curiously, at the same time you said GNU-Linux is so great, you moved out of it to Mac - where you have to pay double the amount for the hardware, and the manufacturer even goes to the trouble of making sure every laptop model has a different electricity cable, so that you have to spend more money you case you loose it. And you're worried about people not following ideology? I'm a windows user, I don't know if I'm an advanced pd user (or what that is), but I've been using pd only for several years, have done my contributions to pd-ext (extra/jmmmp and donations in $), have patches for people to download if they want to, taken and given Pd workshops, was present in the Floss session, have worked on documentation, and partly organise the pd berlin users meeting. So, I don't appreciate when people judge windows users as idiots which don't know better, because I am one. At least I don't call mac users a bunch of preformatted hipsters who stand for hours in line to be the first to buy whatever crap Jobs launches on the market. By the way, I don't use IE7, I use Opera for 10 years now (which I configured to acess my accounts and mails from both windows and ubuntu). I have a facebook account, which I use to see how other people are doing - including some of the most advanced pd users present on this list, they post more on it than I do. If you want to advocate segregation go ahead, but be honest about it. After all you use unix, you have the moral advantage (or you like to say you do). João Pais ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.42.5 release candidate 6 released!
Hi, I' m not a PD advanced user but here is my story: I think the dilemma is Do we need more users for PD (and make it work perfectly in Windows too) or we need to aim the PD development for Linux/ Mac users (and don't waste our limited resources)? *Well , I have seen on youtube etc people using windows and they are experts of PureData* but how many are they really? One of the reasons I chose to run GNU-Linux on my previous setup (besides the xp partition) are things you can have in it. And yes, PD was one of my major reasons! I unfortunately had then to buy a Mac because of the support of audio applications generally. Ok , most of people using a computer have Windows on their setup and in countries like Greece ... you have to even use it in your university. BUT: Do really people care about programs like PD or the ideology/democratic openess behind GNU-Linux when they use windows? Most of us had the first choice for our system of windows and we MOVED when we saw what we can and we cannot do in it. So, my opinion is to just be more consentrated on Mac/GNU-Linux support. There are not too many people who will really have the interest to learn Pd in depth and then browsing with IE7 their Facebook accounts. I honestly don't want to make Pd/Win users feel stupid. Cheers! Ps Let's define Pd: *Pure Data* is a visual programming language (...) for the creation of interactive computer music and multimedia works... STOP!!! Isn't that elitistic enough? On 17 September 2010 21:42, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Can we move the Windows bashing to another list? I'm sure there are much better venues. I'd much prefer it if we were friendly to Pd/Windows users rather than try to make them feel stupid. .hc On Sep 17, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: Windows7_Error: 001 Windows 7 loaded - Warning your computer is now in danger 2010/9/17 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: On Fri, 17 Sep 2010, patko wrote: (please don't read this serioulsy) Hahaha ! Hey, I have one : Q: how many Windows users does it take to screw a light bulb ? A: None : Windows can very well screw anything on its own ! (intraduisible) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Future of Motorsounds in Electric Cars and Games
Hi Hans, I 'd really like to help because I found it interesting, but it was a really hard thing for me. I felt like working - not just answering questions. A lot of questions , were too hard to understand! They were auto-translated to English - NOT by a human, did they? ( - Even as a passenger car driving beat with a nice strong sound more joyful. -Remember, when you one-vehicle noise is noticed last special? And why? ) Additionally , You couldn't find any sensible answer to some of them. For example , what I'm supposed to answer in: -What do you think generally about noises or sounds of cars? -Let us assume that anything is possible! Can you imagine that electric cars may sound differently than usual internal combustion engines? Why should I mind? In most of the survey's parts , I just felt what you were trying to ask. friendly (really) - GeorgeKer~ http://tinyurl.com/georgeker - On 8 July 2010 22:17, hghoyer m...@hghoyer.de wrote: Hi, I would be glad if you participate in my brief survey. It is about sounds in computer games and electric cars ... http://research.hghoyer.de/index.php?sid=71581lang=en Sorry, my question has to do only indirectly related to PD. I am happy you are interested, include evaluation of the survey! Thanks Hans ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredata.org?
Hi from Greece, There is no redirection for me either. Tested in FireFox / Chrome / Safari on my mac and every browser's result was: Not Found The requested URL /cparking.php was not found on this server. - GeorgeKer~ http://tinyurl.com/georgeker - On 8 June 2010 20:38, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: Then its not browser related but rather: network-related =P On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.comwrote: Ah. Just tested on our Comcast line (prior tests were done on an ATT line) and it worked fine there. Not sure what this means, but seems the problem has something to do with the ATT network. Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.com wrote: I just tested on the following systems / browsers with the same results as I posted previously: Mac OS X 10.4 -Mozilla Firefox 3.6.3 -Opera 10.54 -Safari 3.2.1 Windows XP -Internet Explorer 8.0.6001 -Google Chrome 5.0.375.55 -Mozilla Firefox 3.0.5 I am in Chicago, IL, USA Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: puredata.org resolves to this for me: http://i50.tinypic.com/2rm5kec.jpg Here it works fine (Mozilla Firefox 3.6.3 and Chrome 5.0.375.70 beta both in WinXP) What's your browser+OS? Could that be a browser related issue? -- Pedro Lopes contacto: j...@radiozero.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes -- Pedro Lopes contacto: j...@radiozero.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Sound FX for Games
Thnx Jeffrey for your link. Just posted in my frienfeed: http://friendfeed.com/georgeker/d5716ab1/video-game-audio-articles-by-leonard-j-paul-via http://friendfeed.com/georgeker/d5716ab1/video-game-audio-articles-by-leonard-j-paul-via http://friendfeed.com/georgeker/d5716ab1/video-game-audio-articles-by-leonard-j-paul-via - http://tinyurl.com/georgeker - 2010/2/12 Jeffrey Concepcion jeffreyconcepc...@gmail.com http://www.sfu.ca/~leonardp/VideoGameAudio/main.htm#patches On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Alvar Lahoz alva...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Everyone, It's my first message to list. Recently I'm interested to entry to world of games, i worked in a post production studio and i was making sound for films. I have concepts of Pure Data, but i don't know how i can work it with games. Someone can give me a tutorial for noobs? Thanks. Àlvar ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- www.avmachinists.org Puerto Rico based Art Collective/ Non-Profit Org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] bypassing effects
Wouldn't the attachment help you? Or I'm missing something? - George Ker http://tinyurl.com/GeorgeKer - 10/01/2010 6:45 ??, O/H sonia yuditskaya ??: Hi All, I am working on a kind of VJing tool, and am trying to make an effects bus. The way I am dealing with videos is by using pix_film, passing that through an effect and drawing the output to pix_texture. Do any of you know, how, given this setup, one could bypass an effect in the chain, but still draw to texture? Or maybe I should be using a different system? Thanks ever so much for any input! best, Sonia Yuditskaya ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list #N canvas 99 356 450 300 10; #X obj 216 84 tgl 18 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 161 179 *; #X obj 108 177 * -1; #X obj 108 200 + 1; #X obj 93 225 *; #X obj 93 120 inlet; #X text 240 84 on/off for effect; #X obj 161 208 outlet; #X text 206 205 outlet to effect; #X obj 93 253 outlet; #X text 141 253 bypassing the effect; #X connect 0 0 1 1; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 7 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 4 1; #X connect 4 0 9 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 5 0 1 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a better way to make a patch
+1 (!) - George Ker http://tinyurl.com/georgeker - 09/01/2010 4:38 ??, O/H Konstantinos Benardis ??: Hi all I want to make a patch to play randomly 8 concrete midi notes. I made the attached patch. As you can see i needed to make many connections by hand and this is something it happens to many of my patches. Would it be a better way to make this patch without having to make that many connection? What makes me believe that should be a better way is that as far as i know, select many objects and connect them with one click to another object has never appear as a question or as a feature of an enhanced gui. Thanks for your help ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Anybody use google wave?
Google Wave seems to be extending these days. I can send up to 5 invitations for GoogleWave, if anyone interested. Just tell me. Preferably, for PD-related stuff of course. On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 04:57, Adityo Pratomo quietdi...@gmail.com wrote: I actually think of the same thing. Perhaps we can make gadget to collaborate and edit patches. How 'bout we make one of this? :D Anyway if someone want to add me as your contact, my account is quietdi...@googlewave.com :) On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 12:44 AM, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I am in Wave now also, but the problem is that not everyone has access to it. so making it a tool for puredata is not yet very practical. although i would love to see a gadget to edit patches in wave :D wonder if it would be possible to link pd to a google wave gadget. 2009/11/30 George Ker geoker...@gmail.com When I got in the Wave, started following a Pure Data Users Google Wave I found there public. https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252BifpeLm5IC https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com%21w%252BifpeLm5IC It really doesn't seem busy although I find it great as an idea. On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:47, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, come tho the IRC channel. Google Wave is still beta, really beta... 2009/11/30 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Adityo Pratomo wrote: Just out of curiosity, anybody here use google wave? I feel that this platform is quite ideal for having real time conversation. So, if many people on the Pd-list here use google wave, we can have some discussion and brainstorming on it :) Join the #dataflow channel on the FreeNode IRC network. Usually there are about 40 people logged in (though most are AFK). _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- mataharipertama.wordpress.com kotakmakan.multiply.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Anybody use google wave?
Ok, added Jaime! On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 21:14, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: with this one jaime.oliv...@gmail.com On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: well i'm interested... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Anybody use google wave?
When I got in the Wave, started following a Pure Data Users Google Wave I found there public. https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252BifpeLm5IC It really doesn't seem busy although I find it great as an idea. On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:47, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, come tho the IRC channel. Google Wave is still beta, really beta... 2009/11/30 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Adityo Pratomo wrote: Just out of curiosity, anybody here use google wave? I feel that this platform is quite ideal for having real time conversation. So, if many people on the Pd-list here use google wave, we can have some discussion and brainstorming on it :) Join the #dataflow channel on the FreeNode IRC network. Usually there are about 40 people logged in (though most are AFK). _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] call for translations for new Pd GUI
Hans-Christoph Steiner hans at at.or.at writes: So, now's a good time to start contributing. Fix up the languages that are there, or add more languages or even country-specific versions of a language. Here are the files: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/branches/pd-devel/0.41.4/po/ Hello to all, I'm a PD beginner living in Greece. I saw your call for translations and was interested in helping translating the app for the Greek language. I'm now a pd-list member because of this call. So, I have allready translated in Poedit and LocFactory Editor (as recommended) all the template from SourceForge. I have some problems that your guidance would be appreciated, because it's my FIRST attempt in something like that. -The first one is what I should do with PureData language specific terms. I recommend for terms like: Object, Atom Box, Symbol, Bang, Slider, Patch etc that no Greek translation should be done. Yes, of course I know what an Object means , and Atom Box could easily be translated, but wouldn't it be a drawback for users? Even for me, the translator of the app would be confusing if all tutorials / help patches/ lists were using them... and then I had to face with terms: Object, Slider, Patch, DSP etc translated in Greek language in my installed App! I asked a friend of mine and he wouldn't use the translated app either! I find it like translating the MIDI acronyms. Too ugly and scary... As a conclusion, I left some terms as they are. I want your opinion. -The second problem is that nowhere in Poedit is mentioned my contribution :| . The only thing shown is something about last translator in LocFactory Editor. I don't mind about the licence but wouldn't it be right for me to impress girls in my college more easily after my work in translation of the PD app -The third problem is: when I' m completely finished, where I should upload the .po file and how? -The last and more serious problem is that I can't test my gr.po file. Everything needs to be done with sudo to run and be installed properly and when I reach the commands from your guide: $ ./autogen.sh .configure make there are some errors in the terminal: rm: src/config*: No such file or directory rm: src/makefile*: No such file or directory ./autogen.sh: line 13: libtoolize: command not found I think no problems were in the gettext installation. I' m on an intel Macbook Pro 2008, with MacOSX Leopard. Thank you, George Ker http://www.friendfeed.com/georgeker http://www.facebook.com/george.ker ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
