Re: [PD] Numpad decimal outputs wrong character

2010-11-21 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
. -Jonathan --- On Mon, 11/22/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Numpad decimal outputs wrong character To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 2:12 AM You have

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 9:44 PM

Re: [PD] Simple Subtractive Synth filter envelope

2010-11-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 11/22/10, Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org wrote: From: Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaxi...@goto10.org Subject: Re: [PD] Simple Subtractive Synth filter envelope To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, November 22, 2010, 11:09 PM On 22/11/10 21:48, samuel rowe wrote:

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: RE: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 2:27

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 11/23/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: RE: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, November 23, 2010, 2:27 AM

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I forgot the attachment --- On Tue, 11/23/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: RE: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at, 'João Pais' jmmmp...@googlemail.com

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: RE: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 6:29

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 11/24/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: RE: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Cc: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancs...@yahoo.com, pd-list

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 11/25/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: RE: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 4:53 AM

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
If I delete all the [clip] objects in the attached patch, it becomes much faster to select and move the toggle objects. Why is that? I mean, the number of selected objects is the same either way. Do the [clip]s get redrawn every time I move the selection? -Jonathan

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 11/25/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu, pd-list

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 11/25/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu, pd-list

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-25 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 11/25/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: IOhannes m zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 7:18 PM

Re: [PD] non-logical receives

2010-11-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
You can set the receive-name of all iem-guis. Also, see [maxlib/remote] * -Jonathan * I found this using my Object Search path. --- On Fri, 11/26/10, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com Subject: [PD] non-logical receives To: pd-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] non-logical receives

2010-11-26 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Oops, [remote] does the opposite of what you want! See [receive13] -- though there's no help patch for it, sending a set message seems to work. -Jonathan --- On Sat, 11/27/10, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [PD] non-logical

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 11/27/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu, pd-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available (was: Re: call for testers...)

2010-11-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
The ctrl-Enter functionality is missing. In normal pd-ext 0.42-5 (on Hardy) I can: 1. Click ctrl-1 and type the name of the object. 2. Click ctrl-Enter to instantiate the object and have it selected. 3. Click ctrl-d and have a new, unconnected object which I can Shift-arrow where I want it,

[PD] zexy/demultiplex help patch

2010-11-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Here's a problem I've run into: 1. Launch Pd-ext. 2. Create new patch. 3. Create [demux]. 4. Notice console message. 5. Right-click and choose help. 6. Notice console error: couldn't find help patch. 7. No help patch for [demultiplex] either, but there is one for [zexy/demultiplex]. (Notice,

Re: [PD] L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available (was: Re: call for testers...)

2010-11-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Question about the cord inspector: is it feasible to make the font size scale with the 'Edit' menu font bomb dialogue? I know the whole font situation in Pd is problematic, but currently the font bomb dialogue is the only way to make patches readable when projecting them on a large screen.

Re: [PD] L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available (was: Re: call for testers...)

2010-11-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Small detail-- your 'Put' menu is tearoff-able. -Jonathan --- On Sun, 11/28/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available (was: Re: call for testers...) To: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com

Re: [PD] L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available (was: Re: call for testers...)

2010-11-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi, Here are some scrolling observations: In the attached patch, drag the [pd] object far down into the bottom right-hand corner, so that you get some scrollbars to appear. Now, on the current pd-extended, you can scroll down to that object, and when you drag it back to its original

Re: [PD] L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available (was: Re: call for testers...)

2010-11-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available (was: Re: call for testers...) To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com, PD List pd-list

Re: [PD] L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available (was: Re: call for testers...)

2010-11-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available (was: Re: call for testers...) To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com, PD List pd-list

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-11-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 11/29/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, November 29, 2010, 9:11 PM

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-12-04 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Ivica, Since you've been rooting around in the Pd source, I wanted to bring up an idea about canvas properties and get your opinion on it: If you look at the coords for a particular canvas, the 7th argument currently controls GOP status. 0 = no GOP 1 = GOP 2 = GOP + hide args But what

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-12-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 12/5/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: 'PD List' pd-list

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-12-05 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 12/6/10, i...@vt.edu i...@vt.edu wrote: From: i...@vt.edu i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at, 'PD List' pd-list@iem.at Date

[PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi, What do people think of the little Tip of the Day windows that are in some software? Are they helpful? Annoying? Either way, I made one in Pd. Seems like this could be useful to beginners. And at the moment they're no longer useful one can just turn them off. (Or they could be

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 12/6/10, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote: From: Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it Subject: Re: [PD] Tip of the Day To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 9:28 AM Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hi,        What do people think of the little Tip of the Day windows

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Mon, 12/6/10, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote: From: Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it Subject: Re: [PD] Tip of the Day To: Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, pd-list@iem.at Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 10:42 AM Original Message Subject: Re: [PD

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-07 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 12/7/10, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk wrote: From: Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk Subject: Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 9:50 AM You could be forgiven. The

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 12/9/10, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: From: Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Subject: Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian To: Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Cc: pd-list PD-list@iem.at

Re: [PD] Tip of the Day

2010-12-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Therefore my tip-of-the-day patch has at least one sign of civilization. -Jonathan --- On Thu, 12/9/10, Theron Trowbridge theron.trowbri...@gmail.com wrote: From: Theron Trowbridge theron.trowbri...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Tip of the Day To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010,

[PD] toxy/tot problems

2010-12-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi list, I looked in doc/examples/toxy/ and found tot-nomenu.pd. (Using the ctrl-b browser it's Pure Data/examples/toxy.) Great! But if I use [tot] to kill the menu of the main canvas instead of a subpatch, I get a big error message if I click on the Windows menu of the console: Error:

Re: [PD] L2Ork PD first stable release now available

2010-12-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
What's wrong with the about.pd patch? --- On Sat, 12/11/10, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: From: András Murányi muran...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork PD first stable release now available To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, December 11, 2010, 9:53 PM On Thu, Dec 9, 2010

Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
The GPL doesn't restrict people from doing commercial business with the software (although v3 does try to restrict certain types of monkey business). -Jonathan --- On Sat, 12/11/10, Martin . blindmanona...@gmail.com wrote: From: Martin . blindmanona...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] pd-pidip into

Re: [PD] L2Ork PD first stable release now available

2010-12-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
now available To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 1:13 AM Nothing is wrong with it, i just thought l2orkified version or something like that could be added... 2010/12/12 Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com What's wrong with the about.pd patch? --- On Sat, 12/11/10

Re: [PD] Pd refcards

2010-12-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
This is basically help-intro.pd, right? -Jonathan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Karim Barkati digital...@online.fr wrote: From: Karim Barkati digital...@online.fr Subject: [PD] Pd refcards To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, December 12, 2010, 6:00 PM Hi all, I just laid out a one-sided pd

Re: [PD] Pd refcards

2010-12-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
In terms of objects, what has been added? -Jonathan --- On Sun, 12/12/10, Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt wrote: From: Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt Subject: Re: [PD] Pd refcards To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at, Karim Barkati digital...@online.fr Date

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
As far as improving documentation, I'd say every object in Pd-ext should be documented clearly in a help patch that outlines: 1) what the object does 2) what its arguments are (and how they function) 3) what messages are accepted at each inlet, and output at each outlet (and the meaning of those

Re: [PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Jmax Phoenix does this.  If I recall correctly it breaks the nested list feature in Gridflow. But considering your [osc~ (pitch * 2)] example-- what would happen if you change the value of pitch?  The value of the [osc~] object's argument is assigned to be the initial frequency only when the

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Date: Tuesday, December 14

[PD] 0.43 nightly build

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I took a stab at using the 0.43 nightly build on Lenny. The package installed ok and here's what I found: * when I first ran pd, I got an error because it was looking for pd-gui.tcl et al in /usr/tcl, which didn't exist. So I copied everything from the /usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl and then it

Re: [PD] Objects vs Classes (was: libraries in Pd-extended 0.43)

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: [PD] Objects vs Classes (was: libraries in Pd-extended 0.43) To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, PD List pd-list@iem.at Date

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Date: Tuesday, December 14

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43 To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 8:56 PM On Tue, 14 Dec 2010,

Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch)

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] call for testers for L2Ork iteration of pd-extended (based on 0.42.x branch) To: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, December 15,

Re: [PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
-0500 From: ma...@artengine.ca To: jancs...@yahoo.com CC: pd-list@iem.at; jbtur...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] PD OOP? On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Jmax Phoenix does this.  If I recall correctly it breaks the nested list feature in Gridflow. Well, it's a bit more

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
segfault: 1. New patch. 2. Create [cnv]. 3. Save as test.pd 4. Right-click [cnv] and choose Properties. 5. Click Ok. Crash. (Hardy.) -Jonathan --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available To:

Re: [PD] Plugin for 0.43 to have a gtk-looking open dialog

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I think this is great. Is it going to become a normal part of Pd-extended? -Jonathan --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] Plugin for 0.43 to have a gtk-looking open dialog To: Lorenzo Sutton

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Narrowing it down: segfault only happens if you right-click and choose Properties _without_ having first selected the object. -Jonathan --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available To:

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at, l2ork-...@disis.music.vt.edu, l...@lists.linuxaudio.org, pik...@piksel.no Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 6:33 AM Can't

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
] L2Ork Pd update now available To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at, l2ork-...@disis.music.vt.edu, l...@lists.linuxaudio.org, pik...@piksel.no Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 6:33 AM Can't reproduce over here. Are you running different libs and are they precompiled

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Plus some weirdness: [s2l] doesn't create. [symbol2list] does create, after which: [s2l] creates (?) -Jonathan --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i

Re: [PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
What exactly would this (#4) look like in Pd? -Jonathan --- On Wed, 12/15/10, brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com wrote: From: brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] PD OOP? To: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 1:51 PM In my experience with emulating

Re: [PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
/15/10, brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com wrote: From: brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] PD OOP? To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 3:04 PM Many options have been proposed over the years, my favorite thus far

Re: [PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
As for named variables, [rl] and [sl] are local. -Jonathan --- On Wed, 12/15/10, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at wrote: From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] PD OOP? To: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 4:19 PM On 2010-12-15 15:38, brandon zeeb

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 12/15/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at, l2ork-...@disis.music.vt.edu, l...@lists.linuxaudio.org, pik...@piksel.no Date

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com, pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 6:42 PM On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 02:16 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Wed, 12/15/10, Roman Haefeli reduz

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Cc: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 12:17 AM

Re: [PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Would you make use of the following if they were included in Pd vanilla? * symbol2list * initbang and closebang * a way to read a text file that's guaranteed to not generate a bad argument error -Jonathan --- On Thu, 12/16/10, brandon zeeb zeeb.bran...@gmail.com wrote: From: brandon zeeb

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Ivica, This may just be leftovers from a previous install: When I run pd by typing in '/usr/local/bin/pd-l2ork' it works fine. When I run it by typing pd-l2ork, I get: sh: /usr/bin/pd-gui: not found And it just waits there until I hit ctrl-c. Any hints? -Jonathan

Re: [PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: From: Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx Subject: Re: [PD] PD OOP? To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 5:40 AM On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 10:23:24AM -0500,

Re: [PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: From: Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx Subject: Re: [PD] PD OOP? To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 8:32 AM On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 09:57:08PM -0800

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: From: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available To: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 2:04 PM On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 23:41 -0500, Ivica Ico

Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available

2010-12-16 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 12/16/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: Re: [PD] L2Ork Pd update now available To: Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, December 16, 2010, 4:00 PM On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 14:04 +0100, Roman Haefeli

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-22 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 12/22/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies To: Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, December

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 12/23/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies To: Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, December 23,

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies

2010-12-23 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Thu, 12/23/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl, pd-list

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] how to detect if array has changed

2010-12-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
If you clip, then you will no longer be able to tell the difference between an array wih values at max and min y and an array with y values that exceed the min/max y. Keeping outside elements visible gives visible feedback for patching errors that cause the outside elements.

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available

2010-12-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I tried running the non-supreme burrito version by running ./pd-l2ork from the console and got an empty tk window with the following errors to the terminal window: tcl: /home/dude/Desktop/libmobiledevice/pd/bin/pd.tk: can't open script invalid command name pdtk_post invalid command name

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available

2010-12-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Ah, ok. --- On Thu, 12/30/10, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: From: Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu Subject: RE: [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancs...@yahoo.com, pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 3:00 AM If you are trying to run

Re: [PD] [PD-dev] PD L2Ork 20101229 snapshot now available

2010-12-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
now available To: 'Jonathan Wilkes' jancs...@yahoo.com, pd-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, December 30, 2010, 3:00 AM If you are trying to run the app without installing, then copy pd.tk from pd/src/ dir into pd/bin/ dir. I forgot to add this as it is actually not a part of the actual install. I

Re: [PD] help text not formatted very well?

2011-01-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
What is the zoom menu? --- On Sat, 1/1/11, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] help text not formatted very well? To: elmaster...@gmail.com, pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, January 1, 2011, 11:41 AM Have you used the zoom

Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin

2011-01-12 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
1 the results aren't clickable 2 you can't enter multiple non-contiguous terms 3 no control over AND vs. OR (or is there?) 4 doesn't differentiate between tutorial/example patches and object-help patches (what if I just want to find the object named 'gate'?) 5 most of the results don't fit into

Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin

2011-01-24 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Remixed! -Jonathan --- On Thu, 1/13/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list PD-list@iem.at Date: Thursday, January 13

Re: [PD] pd quine?

2011-01-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Here's an attempt (without being totally sure I understand what a quine is...) -Jonathan --- On Fri, 1/28/11, Bryan Jurish jur...@uni-potsdam.de wrote: From: Bryan Jurish jur...@uni-potsdam.de Subject: Re: [PD] pd quine? To: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Cc: pd-list List

Re: [PD] pd quine?

2011-01-28 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
There's also doc/manuals/0.intro/50.pure_data_files, but the clone is missing the subpatch. -Jonathan --- On Sat, 1/29/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] pd quine? To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Bryan

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-01-29 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 1/29/11, Josh Moore kh405.7h3...@gmail.com wrote: From: Josh Moore kh405.7h3...@gmail.com Subject: [PD] Am I alone? To: pd-list@iem.at, chuck-us...@lists.cs.princeton.edu, cso...@lists.bath.ac.uk, m...@bek.no Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 9:16 PM Well in my opinion most

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Well, their ideas behind the music are their ideas behind the music. The music that results is the music that results. Composers tend to do a terrible job articulating what#39;s relevant in their own work. I#39;d take what a composer professes to be interested in with a grain of salt.

Re: [PD] how can I clear [vd~]

2011-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 2/1/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] how can I clear [vd~] To: Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 3:33 AM On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, Ingo Scherzinger wrote:

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
But we're not talking about the man, we're talking about the music. -Jonathan --- On Tue, 2/1/11, Dominic Pflaum dompfl...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dominic Pflaum dompfl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] Am I alone? To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca, pd

Re: [PD] how can I clear [vd~]

2011-02-01 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] how can I clear [vd~] To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Ingo Scherzinger i...@miamiwave.com, pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 6:22 AM On Tue

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-02-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
There must be some explanatory context missing from that quote because as it is, it looks like a flip play on words: There is no such thing as the Chicken Dance. The Chicken Dance is not a thing at all but an activity, something people do. -Jonathan

Re: [PD] Am I alone?

2011-02-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Wed, 2/2/11, patko colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: From: patko colet.patr...@free.fr Subject: Re: [PD] Am I alone? To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list pd-list@iem.at Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2011, 12:37 PM Music is something we can have permenantly in the mind

Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin

2011-02-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Hi Hans, Two questions: 1) widgets and text appear super tiny on winxp. But when I create a widget in the tcl shell, say, with grid [button .b -text Hello] the font size looks fine. So what exactly is happening in Pd to make things look too small in windows? (I remember this was a

Re: [PD] how can I clear [vd~]

2011-02-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
[delread~ patch_review_buffer ???] | | [crickets~] | | [!=~] | | [applause~] | | [*~] | \ | \ [dac~] --- On Wed, 2/2/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] how can I clear [vd~] To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com

Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin

2011-02-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
just blank. There is also a weird thing where I can't grab the scrollbar and move  it, only scroll with the mousewheel.  This is using Pd-extended 0.43  from 02-02 on Mac OS X 10.5/Intel. .hc On Jan 25, 2011, at 1:03 AM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Remixed! -Jonathan

Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin

2011-02-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 2/6/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list PD-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, February 6, 2011, 11:24 PM

Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin

2011-02-06 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Ah, great. Thanks Hans. -Jonathan --- On Mon, 2/7/11, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list PD-list@iem.at Date: Monday

Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin

2011-02-08 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Subject: Re: [PD] keyword/regexp search of documentation in a plugin To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd-list PD-list@iem.at Date: Monday, February 7, 2011, 8:25 PM That's great, looking forward to it.  I'm really happy to see you  taking

Re: [PD] Need Help Understanding pack

2011-02-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Those jokes exist in English, too. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Need Help Understanding pack

2011-02-09 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
It#39;s not inferred-- it#39;s stated directly as point #2 on the Order of Operations part, then reiterated: The application of these concepts appears frequently in Pd code. Plus there#39;s a whole section devoted to connection order that reads like a how to guide for patching by depending on

Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter

2011-02-11 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
A false dichotomy is made between abstractions and externals. Also there are many externals that don#39;t include abstractions but are nonetheless compatible with Pd vanilla. word or symbol creates a false dichotomy. Also: it isn#39;t made clear what is special about list messages as opposed

Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter

2011-02-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sun, 2/13/11, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] FLOSS book Lists chapter To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org, pd-list@iem.at Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 5:46 PM

Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

2011-02-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
doc/2.control.examples/12.PART2.subpatch.pd (inside [pd eager-adder])   Also in: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s7   Trivia: If you put a bunch of [inlet] objects at the exact same x position in a canvas, the order in which they were created (from most recent to least recent) 

Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets?

2011-02-14 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
of one [inlet] with respect to another. -Jonathan --- On Tue, 2/15/11, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote: From: Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PD] in an abstraction or subpatch, what determines the order of inlets/outlets? To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: pd list

[PD] search paths

2011-02-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Pd_documentation/x3.htm#s5 Regardless of path, Pd should look first in the directory containing the patch before searching down the path. Pd does not automatically look in the current directory however; to enable that, include ``. in the path. The ``extra directory,

Re: [PD] noob question: trying to repurpose the G08.reverb.pd example

2011-02-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Why not always put your abstractions in the same directory as the patch?  (Or in a subdirectory if you want to organize them that way.)  It makes things more modular: e.g., you can just compress the containing directory and shoot it off rather than sending a separate attachment for

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