Re: [PD] batteries for audio cards
There are the Li-Fe batteries from rc planes or cars. This chemistry is more resilient and at the same time very little self discharge compared to li-on. They do have less kick out, but since you wouldn't need more than 2 or 3 amps you are more then ok. Search for chargers and batteries on hobbyking.com or similar rc sites. The prices are very cheap. No dia 26/04/2013 21:25, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com escreveu: Hi, batteries have been used for field recording for quite a while. Some discussions on the topic: http://taperssection.com/index.php?board=4.0 These are told to be killer but not cheap batteries: http://www.idxtek.com/ András On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres por...@gmail.com wrote: hey folks, anyone have recomendations for battery packs for audio cards? wanna try some stuff going mobile, anybody doing that? Looking for some high capacity for my multiface/RME (takes 9-.12V, 2A) thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd on mini devices
I did managed to run puredata on a beagleboard clone (igepv2) the audio IC on the beagle and clones is really bad, but with an external USB interface it works very well. I did tried a pitchshifter patch and ot worked. Better yet is to use LibPd. I also tried it using a puthon wrapper, amazing and super low resources. Only problem. The ARM processors are diferent so you will need tocompile lots of externals from scratch. (Unless pd - extended start to have an ARM build system. No dia 31 de Out de 2011 12:02, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk escreveu: On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 20:34:18 +0900 i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote: well, something like that raspberry or the beagleboard looks absolutely great, IF i can get one to run pd with just some really minimal patch. the most important thing is low latency. i know how hard that is to get even on a 'proper' computer, so that's going to be the hard thing, yeah? The basic arrangement is a real-time kernel and ALSA. If you can get those running you have a start. But very few people have any inclination to mess around at that level. Something like http://www.emdebian.org/ is often at the heart of a usable system. Bear in mind that you have no hard drive. So a good idea is to make a live system. That means the whole system boots from a USB compressed filesystem and runs only in RAM. If you partition the USB stick and create a persistent home directory, then you have what behaves like a normal desktop. Except you won't want a desktop. The bare bones are Kernel core-utils, busybox ALSA telnet/ssh With ssh you have a handle on the device, you can log in, transfer files using scp, remotely start and stop services. Try compiling a simple test program that produces a sine wave and get that coming out your audio device. Then see if you can get vanilla Pd on there. Note that if you go the Debian or Arch route you'll be able to use a package manager to pull a pre-built version for ARM very easily. apt-get install puredata This is high level guidance. Before getting stuck in see what some of the others say. I haven't played with this for a few months and it's a fast moving stream. There may be one or more off-the-shelf ways of getting Pd running on a small board ARM or intel, but you want a suitable kernel to try real-time guitar fx. a. i don't mind if the device is a bit bigger. but you know...even these smart phones now can run pretty decent pd patches. surely there has to be some good option with dedicated audio in/out and low latency??? i can attempt a custom linux install even but i'd need some hand holding. On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.ukwrote: It's a current topic at the London hackspace. Im often thinking about new development boards that can run a decent guitar FX patch with usable latency on a playing card sized board costing less than a $50 Depends what you mean by mini devices though. In theory a usable CPU only board would need USB, and a power supply, everything else, including LAN and audio can be added. Most SBCs are actually very expensive dollar per cycle but there are some interesting possibilities http://www.raspberrypi.org/?p=78 http://beagleboard.org/ a. On Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:39:39 +0900 i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote: (this is a duplicate post i did on the forum, but want to see if i can get help here) is there someone here doing pd on mini devices yet? i want something with low latency, audio output at least, but audio in/out even better.. the ability to connect some sort of sensors or controllers (even really basic stuff) basically, i want to put pd in a guitar pedal. any help? cheap would be best, but i have a small budget i could use if a good option is not bargain basement. i must also mention that i'm really not good at soldering, and my coding ability in anything other than PD is pretty shocking. what options are there? i have heard of beagle board, does that work? -- Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk -- Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd on mini devices
It is not dificult to setup, provided that the usb device is supported by alsa/kernel. The latency depends greatly of the device cpu, kernel, driver etc. Low latencies like 4 ms seems to me hard to achieve. No dia 1 de Nov de 2011 13:07, i go bananas hard@gmail.com escreveu: Hi Ricardo, this is very encouraging news! i don't need any externals, just basic pd. LibPd sounds like it would be ideal. when you say about using beagelboard with an external audio device, is that hard to set up? What is the latency like? i think i really need less than 20ms, but as low as possible is best. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] need advice: i386 or amd64 for a new Debian installation?
If you want to use more than 3Gb of ram, you can use a PAE kernel. This i386 kernel with a patch for extension of the adressable memory. No dia 24 de Set de 2011 20:42, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at escreveu: If you need to access more than 3GB of RAM in Pd, then use 64-bit. If you are worried about bugs in 64-bit, use 32-bit. But from what I hear, Pd-extended on Debian/64-bit is good, but I haven't used it. .hc On Sep 24, 2011, at 2:48 PM, Nicola Pandini wrote: Hi, I'm going to install Debian Wheezy on my laptop. Which version should I install? i386 or amd64? I'm asking this because I know of issues with pd-extended on 64bit systems. Thank you! Nicola ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language; and every chapter must be so translated -John Donne ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] libpd and externals using python.
Hi List. I posted this message at noisepage's pd-everywhere forum but untill now there is no answer, so I am posting it to the list, maybe someone has some idea. I want to use fiddle~, so I went to the extra folder, compiled it, (make fiddle~) then I grabbed fiddle~.pd_linux and copy it to “/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/” (where pylibpd is). After this I tried to run the patch but fiddle isn’t working. I then opened the file pylibpd.py and noticed that there is a definition to add a search path: “”def libpd_add_to_search_path(*args): return _pylibpd.libpd_add_to_search_path(*args) libpd_add_to_search_path = _pylibpd.libpd_add_to_search_path””. I added this line to my echo.py derived script: libpd_add_to_search_path(‘/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/’), and still doesn’t work. What is that i am making wrong? Anyone has some insight: python script pasted in. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/566725/ Patch attached. thanks for any help Ricardo Lameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro #N canvas 486 105 307 421 10; #X obj 41 275 hip~ 5; #X obj 96 103 unpack; #X obj 97 195 osc~; #X obj 96 127 moses 1; #X obj 41 213 *~; #X obj 135 155 mtof; #X obj 135 178 *; #X msg 184 133 0.5; #X floatatom 184 162 3 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 222 133 15; #X obj 42 236 *~ 2; #X obj 184 108 loadbang; #N canvas 540 334 758 306 delay 0; #X obj 15 222 outlet~; #X obj 14 21 inlet~; #X obj 15 102 loadbang; #X obj 14 49 delwrite~ E03-del 40; #X obj 15 195 delread~ E03-del; #X obj 15 152 expr 1000*1024/$f1; #X obj 15 128 samplerate~; #X text 208 47 write to delay line which has enough memory to hold 40 msec; #X text 125 128 get sample rate at load time; #X text 185 152 divide 1024 by sample rate to give time in seconds \; multiply by 1000 to convert to milliseconds.; #X text 168 197 read from the delay line at the calculater delay; #X text 317 268 1024-sample delay; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 6 0; #X connect 4 0 0 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 6 0 5 0; #X restore 40 121 pd delay; #X obj 39 342 dac~; #X obj 40 307 *~ 0.5; #X floatatom 135 208 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 41 24 adc~; #X text 252 14; #X obj 50 72 fiddle~ 512; #X connect 0 0 14 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 4 1; #X connect 3 1 5 0; #X connect 4 0 10 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 2 0; #X connect 6 0 15 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 6 1; #X connect 9 0 8 0; #X connect 10 0 0 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X connect 12 0 4 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 14 0 13 1; #X connect 16 0 12 0; #X connect 16 0 18 0; #X connect 18 2 1 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libpd and externals using python.
Yes, that was my first try. 2011/2/17 patrick pured...@11h11.com: I want to use fiddle~, so I went to the extra folder, compiled it, (make fiddle~) then I grabbed fiddle~.pd_linux and copy it to “/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/” (where pylibpd is). did you try to put fiddle~.pd_linux where octa.pd is? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libpd and externals using python.
Nothing like that, just an error related to the absence of jack server running. python octa.py bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started This is all it outputs on the console 2011/2/17 patrick pured...@11h11.com: any output in the terminal? maybe hooking print: t_libpd_printhook libpd_printhook -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libpd and externals using python.
Well, it seems it was related to the compiling of fiddle~. it wasnt linking to pylib.so. Peter Brinkmann just post a work around at http://noisepages.com/groups/pd-everywhere/forum/topic/python-libpd-externals-etc/#post-1392 time to test it out :D 2011/2/17 Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com: Nothing like that, just an error related to the absence of jack server running. python octa.py bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111) Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started This is all it outputs on the console 2011/2/17 patrick pured...@11h11.com: any output in the terminal? maybe hooking print: t_libpd_printhook libpd_printhook -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libpd and externals using python.
Yeah, I checked out you page on libpd... it was it that push me to try the python stuff. It is working now. I do need to have the external on the same folder of the patch/script 2011/2/17 patrick pured...@11h11.com: Confirmed, i can reproduce your problem. No error, but fiddle doesn't work/load... I don't have this problem with my C++ GUI binding, i can even load Gem.pd_linux (i had to use /-Wl,–export-dynamic -Wl,–whole-archive ./libpd.a -Wl,–no-whole-archive) /http://www.workinprogress.ca/libpd/ -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Am I alone?
I am a newbie in electronic music (not dance music by the way, electronic in the broad sense) but i am also a classic musician, teacher, I also played in traditional music groups etc... background aside here goes the idea. A long time ago, in the renaissance and before, a third and a sixth were considered a dissonant interval. Consonants where only the forth, fifth and octave... this could be caused by a lot of different aspects, one of them was the Temperament of the scale that was quit different from the 12 equal semitones used later. Also the music was made primarily to be sang and played in church and monasteries were the reverberation was big. After that came the keyboard instruments and the difficulty of tuning of the same instruments on different key signatures, this lead to a standard of twelve equal semitones that allow interchangeability of keys. Some years later came the continuous modulation, after that the dodecaphonic series and after that integral serialism and electronic instruments etc etc etc. Each of this changes were highly disregarded by the broad public being used later on for more commercial music. What i want to say is that, you may not like some type of music,I dont like techno, even the pseudo good techno, on a bar, or at my music player, however it has its space on a disco. Each music has its time, its progression. Time its the best filter, maybe 90 % of the music created nowadays will not be heard in 200 years, but when the music touches senses it will endure. there where hundreds of baroque and classical composers at their time, however you only know a handful of them sometimes we as a society need time to assimilate change. Maybe a chainsaw is more musical than a violin, it all depends how the music is made, how the musical discourse and flow goes. apart of the music, there will be always place for etudes. Problem is that nowadays each composition student does an exercise and call it a piece... but that is a social problem not of the techniques. sorry for the rant bye 2011/1/30 beatthefinalb...@gmail.com I even read the Pd/Max/Csound/Chuck mailing lists too but I choose to make actual music with those tools. How do you define Actual Music? Some of us happen to define chainsaw in cave 6 feet down as music ;) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Am I alone?
Great reference to 4:33 Jonathan :D -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Linux script to launch JACK and Pd at once
doesnt Ladish does that? (http://ladish.org/) What do you mean with turn audio on at startup? on Pd? you can send a loadbang to a message to turn the dsp on... but maybe that isnt what you want... 2011/1/17 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Thank you Marco, but I don't need to run many apps. What does the exit do though? I'd be interested in a command that would turn the audio on at startup, i don't know whether this is possible. Just to satisfy my curiosity, how far can we go using scripts? Would it be possible to launch Pd and write a patch from scratch directly from a script? Thanks again for your help. Pierre 2011/1/17 Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com Hi Pierre, also the -p argument is quite useful if you use multiple soundcard (like travel setup, studio, etc...), as it allows to choose which profiles you want jack to load. Using many applications for one project, I found useful the following script. First, I have one folder where to save all different software patches included in a project. I keep one unique name for several file formats, so I can use the script below to launch a studio setup at once indicating the project name as a variable $1. #! /bin/bash qjackctl -s -p FocusriteSaffire40 sleep 5 ardour2 ../ardour/$1/$1.ardour hydrogen $1.h2song zynaddsubfx -l $1/$1.xmz seq24 --file $1/$1.midi exit On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 03:03:34PM +0100, Pierre Massat wrote: I used the one published by Joao Pais, that is: #!/bin/bash qjackctl -s sleep 5 pdextended I'd be grateful if someone could tell me what -s means, by the way. $ man qjackctl [...] -s, --start Start JACK audio server immediately [...] $ exit -- Frank BarknechtDo You RjDj.me? _ __footils.org -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] supercollider in pd?
If you are using linux or Mac osX you can use JACK to route the audio the way you want without latency drop. I dont know if the JACK's windows port is usable or not. bye 2010/11/25 ronni montoya ronni.mont...@gmail.com HI , is it possible to send sound from pd to supercollider? i would like to be able to send sound from a pd patch to sc3 in order to process it in sc3. how can i do this? thanks R. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Which Linux distribution are you using?
For now, FireWire devices are the ones that really gain with a RT kernel. The generic Kernels are becoming more and more timing eficient, they absorbed a lot of the RT patches made by Ingo Molnar et al. I dont know why didnt Ubuntu worked on your computer. If fedora worked, ubuntu should also work. 2010/11/14 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Hi List!, I use Linux Ubuntu 9.04, test 9.10 and 10.04... i prefer ubuntu for ease and support, is confortable for replicate experiences in the educational field. You can compile the low latency Kernel, and the aplications are good. Best regards José 2010/11/14 cyrille henry c...@chnry.net hello, you say that you need a RT kernel : did you benchmarck the difference between a RT kernel and a standard kernel? anyway, i'm using ubuntu 10.04 with no optimisation. compiling pd/Gem is very fast and easy, so i don't wait the official package... cyrille Le 14/11/2010 13:48, Pierre Massat a écrit : Hi all! I have realized lately that Fedora/PlanetCCRMA may not be the best linux rt distro out there in terms of updates for Pd. So I wanted to conduct a survey among pd-list members to know who is using what. It seems like Ubuntu Studio is the distro that's most frequently updated. Too bed because the last time i tried to install it on my laptop it didn't work... Any advice would be appreciated. I need a rt kernel, of course... Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Which Linux distribution are you using?
I tried it only with 2 ins 2 outs, but jack had the 8 channels open, just wasnt used. I had some people telling me that they made it to 4ms latency with a RT kernel, proper IRQ settings and a Texas Instruments Firewire chipset 2010/11/14 Pedro Lopes pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt Impressive low latency Ricardo, congrats. All channels working? Or a stereo duplex(in+out) only? Best regards, Pedro Lopes On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: As Far as I tested it, yes. I tried 10.10 with a FA-101 and without RT kenel and already with the new FireWire stack/FFADO i could achieve 8 ms latency with a ricoh chipset. so for now it seems it is going very nice. altough much improvement is needed. Ubuntu studio team is working on workflows and and in some modifications for the next release (natty /11.04). If you want to tes the Alesio's RT kernels you can join the mailing list. For now, RT kernels will be provided via PPA repositories, so debugging and testing is very needed, more when people push hard the system, like with PD :D Ubuntu Studio team is commited to bring together most people connected to multimedia and working upstream, and mainly with debian multimedia. Also I should remeber that Ubuntu studio is a community version, with some help from canonical, (servers, QA, and some more stuff). 2010/11/14 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com So Ubuntu 10 should be more efficient than 8.04 on the same machine? 2010/11/14 Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com For now, FireWire devices are the ones that really gain with a RT kernel. The generic Kernels are becoming more and more timing eficient, they absorbed a lot of the RT patches made by Ingo Molnar et al. I dont know why didnt Ubuntu worked on your computer. If fedora worked, ubuntu should also work. 2010/11/14 Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com Hi List!, I use Linux Ubuntu 9.04, test 9.10 and 10.04... i prefer ubuntu for ease and support, is confortable for replicate experiences in the educational field. You can compile the low latency Kernel, and the aplications are good. Best regards José 2010/11/14 cyrille henry c...@chnry.net hello, you say that you need a RT kernel : did you benchmarck the difference between a RT kernel and a standard kernel? anyway, i'm using ubuntu 10.04 with no optimisation. compiling pd/Gem is very fast and easy, so i don't wait the official package... cyrille Le 14/11/2010 13:48, Pierre Massat a écrit : Hi all! I have realized lately that Fedora/PlanetCCRMA may not be the best linux rt distro out there in terms of updates for Pd. So I wanted to conduct a survey among pd-list members to know who is using what. It seems like Ubuntu Studio is the distro that's most frequently updated. Too bed because the last time i tried to install it on my laptop it didn't work... Any advice would be appreciated. I need a rt kernel, of course... Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://comunicacionnativa.blogspot.com/ http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (ongoing MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd libs into Debian
thats awesome. I dont know how to properly package debian .debs, maybe some day I will try. It would be awesome to have all pd extended in debs :D maybe making a meta-package like pd-extended-full :D 2010/11/11 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at In case you haven't been following it, we have been active getting a new bunch of Pd libraries into Debian. http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=zmoelnig%40iem.at http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=reduz...@gmail.com http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=hans%40eds.org There are still many more that could be added, join us in pkg-multimedia! .hc Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Microsound
Hi Nic, for what I read about it, I think microsound, isn't really a Genre, but more a technique. There are diferent ways to go using microsounds, for instance one of the most used/known is the granular synthesis. You can search some stuff from Curtis Roads, he made a lot of digital granular synthesis, and he also has some books about it. I am sure more people in here will have more insight than me to explain how to use microsounds on your music. Best of luck in your journey RRL 2010/10/18 Dominic Pflaum dompfl...@gmail.com I've found it hard to find audio example of the music? Have you any good examples? Best of luck! Dom On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:54 AM, Nic Freed beatthefinalb...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, my name is Nic, and I am 15 years old. I am getting into pure data, and am now into a state of familiarity with the PD interface and common synthesis methods, along with most of the basic ideas and knowledge needed to begin patching. I have received quite a bit of help from the #dataflow irc channel, so everyone from the chat also on this list, I would like to say thank you! :) Anyway, the reason I am posting to this list is to ask about the techniques used in the genre known as microsound, which is explained in brief detail at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsound I would like to learn the sort of techniques I can use in PD in application for the genre, since it seems ideal for such music, since you can work directly on a sample-by-sample basis. Also, if anyone here has firsthand experience in the genre, suggestions on books, media, and examples would be greatly appreciated! I apologize if this email is a bit forward, or is not correctly formatted for use in mailing list. This is my first time posting to a mailing list, so let me know if I did something incorrectly and I would be very thankful. Thank you for taking the time to respond! --a new student in the school of PD :) Nic AKA nekk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] noob asking : is there a way to script pd?
there are some Python modules that work with Pd. http://pypi.python.org/pypi/purity -Purity AFAIK its a dynamic patching module http://puredata.info/Members/thomas/py python integration with Puredata. check them out, maybe its what you need. 2010/10/14 Achim Bloch achim.bl...@yahoo.fr Hello listees I'd like to know if there is a way to act on pd objects via a script language, I mean, coding behaviors and feedbacks? Sorry if this sounds noob, my knowledge about pd is very basic. Thanks, C ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Arduino, Pd and ultrasonics: HELP needed for degree project!
I am just thinking out of my head,
maybe you could send via serial someting like
IR
and then the ir value, on the PD side you make a route [route IR FX XPTO]
It should rout the data
now i am not sure if it will work just with spaces separating them, or maybe
with CR, but if you have the hardware at hand, should be easy to test.
2010/9/27 Chris Jack itsmrj...@gmail.com
Dear Pd'ers… I'm fairly new to Pd and have been using it during my 'Audio
Production' degree. I'm here to ask for help on my final degree project,
which aims to control objects within Pd by way of proximity sensors
connected to Arduino.
I have had moderate success, first using a Sharp GPD12 IR sensor connected
to an analog port on an Arduino Diecimila, then a Devantech SRF02 connected
via I2C to Arduino. I have managed to get Pure Data reading the sensor
values using the Pure Data example included in SimpleMessageSystem (
http://www.arduino.cc/playground/uploads/Code/SimpleMessageSystem.zip) ...
and only altering the number of the comport the Arduino appears on.
[image: SMS pic.jpg]
On the Arduino end, I have added the SimpleMessageSystem library, and am
using the following sketch to run one or both of the sensors depending on
whether or not I omit the SRF02 or GPD12 parts of the code.
// top //
#include Wire.h
#include Servo.h
#include SimpleMessageSystem.h
int sensorPin = 0;
int sensorValue = 0;
Servo servo1;
#define sensorAddress 0x70
#define readInches 0x50
#define readCentimeters 0x51
#define readMicroseconds 0x52
#define resultRegister 0x02
void setup()
{
Wire.begin();
Serial.begin(9600);
}
void sendCommand (int address, int command) {
Wire.beginTransmission(address);
Wire.send(0x00);
Wire.send(command);
Wire.endTransmission();
}
void setRegister(int address, int thisRegister) {
Wire.beginTransmission(address);
Wire.send(thisRegister);
Wire.endTransmission();
}
int readData(int address, int numBytes) {
int result = 0;
Wire.requestFrom(address, numBytes);
while (Wire.available() 2 );{
}
result = Wire.receive() * 256;
result = result + Wire.receive();
return result;
}
void loop()
{
// SRF02 READING //
sendCommand(sensorAddress, readInches);
delay(70);
setRegister(sensorAddress, resultRegister);
int sensorReading = readData(sensorAddress, 2);
Serial.println(sensorReading);
delay (200);
// GPD12 READING //
sensorValue = analogRead(sensorPin);
int range = (6787 / sensorValue);
Serial.println(range);
delay(200);
}
// bottom //
Pure data is picking up the sensor's output as a decimal number, through
the serial port, correctly, and showing this as a number in the SPECIAL
CHARACTER (note the '80' value in the Pd patch pic that my screen shot
caught) section of the Pd patch, which I can then use to control various Pd
parameters, like a slider for example.
If printing both sensor readings to the serial, the Pd patch will pick up
the two sensor values alternately, but there seems no way of differentiating
the two sensors within Pd, as they both come through the serial. I have
tried prepending the serial print at the Arduino stage with a tag such as
IR or UL for each sensor, but this simply ends up in nothing coming
through in Pd.
Using one sensor gives the ability to control parameters with a fairly
narrow detection range, but for the final version I would like to
incorporate 4 or 5 sensors in order that I can cover nearly a full 360
degree range.
After a bit of research I have gone and bought 4 x Maxsonar EZ0's. They've
got a wider range than the Devantech sensors, and can operate via I2C,
serial or PWM. A number of people online seem to mention the improved
stability when operating via PWM, so I thought this could be kinda useful.
I am going to London Hackspace tomorrow to get help with wiring up the
sensors to my Arduino Diecimila, but for now, my main problem seems to be
how to achieve greater communication between Pure Data and the sensors. It's
all very good and well being able to take the decimal readout from an analog
input to give one set of values in Pd, but I would like to know how to
either to read (and trigger) each sensor discretely via PWM, or to somehow
differentiate between each sensor's analog output, so that I can have the
different sensors controlling different objects within Pd.
As well as SimpleMessageSystem, I looked at using the Pduino object. But to
be honest, it is either not working properly (I have noticed reported issues
with bugginess), or I am being stupid, as it has totally boggled my brain.
In theory though, it seems like it should be able to do what I want, ie.
send and receive commands between Arduino and Pd.
So…. my questions for anyone out there with a knowledge of using Arduino +
multiple sensors (preferably Maxsonar EZ's) with Pd are:
What is
Re: [PD] Audio I/O stuck closing
Hi Simon, Did you check if the jack server was running properly? and if you where connected to it, use qjackctl or patchage for it. its weird to have that error message with JACK. Did you tried to run Pd with in realtime mode? 2010/9/19 Simon Cossar scos...@telus.net Hello list - I am trying to set up a connection between pure data, jack, and an edirol fa-101. I am on 64 bit Ubuntu Studio 10.04.1. In the pd console I am getting the message Audio I/O stuck closing. I had it working with a test signal for a few minutes last night, but today nothing. I might be in over my head here, but any help would be appreciated. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Audio I/O stuck closing
well it is true. The internet is full of outdated and misleading information. due to its nature linux is ealways evolving, really fast 2010/9/20 simon cossar scos...@telus.net On Mon, 2010-09-20 at 12:54 +0100, Ricardo Lameiro wrote: Hi Simon, Did you check if the jack server was running properly? and if you where connected to it, use qjackctl or patchage for it. its weird to have that error message with JACK. Did you tried to run Pd with in realtime mode? 2010/9/19 Simon Cossar scos...@telus.net Hello list - I am trying to set up a connection between pure data, jack, and an edirol fa-101. I am on 64 bit Ubuntu Studio 10.04.1. In the pd console I am getting the message Audio I/O stuck closing. I had it working with a test signal for a few minutes last night, but today nothing. I might be in over my head here, but any help would be appreciated. Simon ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro Hi Ricardo - thank's for the reply. The problem is solved though I'm not sure how I solved it. The audio set up is a lot different on ubuntu than on a mac - judging by the number of questions about it floating around the internet there is general confusion among new users. Simon -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Free Max?
maybe that Pd is getting into Cycling market? 2010/9/20 Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com I have heard rumors from various sources that Cycling 74 may change the pricing scheme of Max to include a limited version for free. If true, what does this mean for Pd? Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Re : piezo sensor to pduino object
try to put some medium sized resistor in series with the piezo and see if it gets more tangible data input. Piezzos can output very high voltages. 2010/9/20 david lemarechal d_lemarec...@yahoo.fr Hi I think the easier way to get info from the piezo is to plug it in a sound card preamp and then use [peakamp~ ] Otherwise you should do a bit of electronics to transform the tiny AC voltage of the piezo output into a DC amplified voltage to match the analog input of arduino. You'll have then to use [peakamp~] or something similar in arduino to be sure to take the highest value in a certain time, rather than take a snapshot of the analog input at the arduino clock frequency (like you would do for a knob) The electronic part is not so difficult to build, I think you can get the schematic on the web. Good luck David -- *De :* FernandoG dataf...@gmail.com *À :* pd-list@iem.at *Envoyé le :* Lun 20 septembre 2010, 17h 58min 29s *Objet :* [PD] piezo sensor to pduino object Hi I need to use a piezo to trigger a bang in a pd patch but i am having some problem of inestability. I use the piezo like an analog input to arduino board, then comunicate with pduino ( firmata 2.1.) Once in the patch i use an arduino object to detect the signal from piezo and a threshold object to trigger a bang when the value of the signal goes up the threshold. The problem is the acuraccy of the sistem, because is really unprecise, sometimes trigger doestn work and some times trigger more bangs than hits to the piezzo. Anybody knows a efficient way to do this? how can i improve the accuracy? Thanks ¡¡ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD extended, Linux 64 32 bits
@bernardo. you should compare also how many employees does red hat have and canonical. and also red hat wasnt always the saint you think. people like ubuntu because are tired to config things everytime. so even if they contribute less i dont care. its open source. the code is there Em 2010/09/14 01:53, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com escreveu: I think RedHat, Novell, IBM, Google are some of the institutions that send more patches to the kernel. There are a lot of independent and anonymous guys too. Maybe people at University? I don't know. BUT Canonical are not one of those companies. Maybe for GNOME. But I think the most exciting desktop development are happening with KDE/Qt anyway. 2010/9/13 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at: Canonical does do a lot of GNOME development... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Hi, new user. Question about max/msp and PD
you can also join the #dataflow channel on the IRC network @ irc.freenode.net, to talk realtime. you have a lot of resources for pd. for instance at puredata.info, but also others around the web. 2010/9/10 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Fri, 10 Sep 2010, jm jones wrote: Max forums seems more active than the pd, I hope this list is more active : ) which pd forum are you talking about ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard -- Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Hi, new user. Question about max/msp and PD
you can also join the #dataflow channel on the IRC network @ irc.freenode.net, to talk realtime. you have a lot of resources for pd. for instance at puredata.info, but also others around the web. 2010/9/10 jm jones juan...@gmail.com Hi, Im learning PD-Max/msp. Im trying both, and seems that learning one helps learn the other. I like the free-software nature of PD, but besides that, I want to know the pros and cons of the two environments. Max is prettier and with more GUI, but is really more easy to learn? Im not interested in video, only music and sound. What about resources (patches, objets, etc)? Max forums seems more active than the pd, I hope this list is more active : ) Besides that, congrats to all the pd developers, its really great to have this awesome free soft. Cheers from Patagonia, Argentina. -- Juan Manuel Jones ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Only one instance of Pd can produce sound in Ubuntu
Because Pd needs exclusive access the audio card. Jack abstract that creating various streams of audio data and then routing it to the playback device. 2010/6/30 Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com On 06/30/2010 08:41 PM, Pedro Lopes wrote: I strongly advise using Jack as the audio engine in Ubuntu. Ohhh! Thanks. I thought Jack was (only) a sort of virtual audio cable for connecting the output of an app to the input of another. I guess it is _also_ that. Anyway, just out of curiosity, why cannot two pd's using oss or alsa both work simultaneously while other apps apparently can? Thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Having two or more versions of Pd (both extended or both vanilla) in Ubuntu
Not the best and efficient way, but you could try a virtual machine, if it is only for testing the GUI rewrite. The problem is that both install to the same folder and also have the same binary name puredata, you could try to change the make file to change the binary name and also the install path to another folder. I think thats what HC made on Extended. 2010/6/30 Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com Hi, So it is relatively easy in Linux to have both Pd Extended and Vanilla (actually easier than in Windows). Now, how can I have for example two or more versions of Vanilla? I'd like to give a try to the rewrite-gui version but also have the old stable 0.42.5 for everyday use... In Windows I used to have more than one version because I often need to check differences in behavior, or check in which version a given bug was fixed or introduced, or a given feature added (yeah all versions shared the same registry folder i.e. same settings, and so did even extended and vanilla, but I could live with that) How do you do that in Linux? Thanks m. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] linux preempt kernel vs rt kernel
well, AFAIK, the RT Kernel is a generic kernel that is modified by a special patch, that is made by Ingo Molnár. This patch gives the kernel the ability to have a behavior that allows the assignment of time frames and allocations to compute rt flagged tasks. Maybe this could be translated to the scheduler.In the other hand, the preemptive kernel, its a normal Generic kernel, that its compiled with different options. At compile time, the configuration of the scheduler and company are configured more aggressively to give a better response to the rt flagged apps. As my opinion, that is worth nothing, the preemptive kernels are comming into a very good level, since the main tree ot the generic kernel, has absorbing parts of Ingo's patches. But, still, the RT kernel is way more accurate on the scheduling etc. problem is that, RT kernels are in nature more Power hungry, and by the nature of its working, they could hang easily a computer, keeping only processing an high prio task. If I said something wrong, please correct me, I have looked at this stuff since a year to try to understand it better, so if someone can explain it better, please do. Ricardo Lameiro 2010/6/26 Andre Osku Schmidt andre.osku.schm...@osku.de On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 22:17 +0200, András Murányi wrote: Hello people, does anyone know what is the real difference between an 'rt' and a 'preempt' kernel in linux? dunno, but here's a pretty interesting talk about real-time kernel http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2010/recordings/day2_1045_How_the_Real_Time_Kernel_Helps_Audio_and_Video_Applications.ogv ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] dmx and pd
I am just guessing in here. But since DMX is a serial protocol, maybe you can send the output of the DMX object and feed it to a comport and send the data to your USB device. Its a long shot, and it probably wont work. But you can try :D. I normally only used DMX on arduino, making a patch to connect to the arduino serial and arduino communicating to DMX using the libs. I never used REAL dmx hardware on the computer side. 2010/6/18 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu I do but it's on windows and mac. I could never get dmx working on my linux box I use the object Olaf created and it works great pp -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Nick Burge Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 10:30 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: [PD] dmx and pd I would like to use pd to control some lights via a wii device. I am on linux 10.04. I have the wii up and running in pd, I have compiled dmx512 from the iem repository, and have the objects dmxin and dmx out in my pd/extra directory. Since these objects depend upon dmx4linux I tried to compile the dmx4linux programme which is supposed to create a dev/dmx directory.. but so far it does'nt do so. The latest version goes back to 2008, so it may not be viable with Lucid.?? Typing dmesg i see my dmx usb pro interface is recognised as dev/ttyUSB0 when i plug it in. But the pd objects will not create. Does anyone on the list have a viable dmx system (preferably using enttec dmx usb pro) set up on linux that they could inform me about? Thanks. Nick. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
Bernardo, BSD licens also is free software. There are a lot of different free software license. not only GPL, and Puredta is not GPL. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cyclone license
No problem, it is a common situation :D AFAIK Pd is in some kind of BSD license, i think a modified BSD, but not sure. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I though PD was GNU/PGL On 14 June 2010 11:53, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: Bernardo, BSD licens also is free software. There are a lot of different free software license. not only GPL, and Puredta is not GPL. 2010/6/14 Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com I think it *have to be* GPL (v.3), since PD is free software, doesn't it? http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Looking for a pedal controller
Actually, an arduino is more than enough for what you want. you can have data from 0 to 1023, that is quite a lot, plus, you can use it directly on puredta using pduino, no need for OSC. 2010/6/8 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com A gamepad would definitely be LESS precise as each potentiometer will map data between 0 and 255. But i've never found this to be a problem. Pierre 2010/6/8 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com I guess it could, only Arduino is more expensive i suppose. I'll try to provide you with some pictures sometime soon. Pierre 2010/6/8 Achim Bloch achim.bl...@yahoo.fr Hi Pierre could you provide more details on how you built your pedal? Could'nt the gamepad be replaced with an Arduino? Thanks, Cyrill --- En date de : *Mar 8.6.10, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com* a écrit : De: Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Objet: Re: [PD] Looking for a pedal controller À: Achim Bloch achim.bl...@yahoo.fr, pd-list pd-list@iem.at Date: Mardi 8 juin 2010, 7h25 Hi Achim, You'll have no latency problems with a USB pedal in Linux using the [hid] object. No noticeable latency at least. There are two problems arising when attempting to built a USB pedal : first you need to actually make the pedal (the traditional cry baby design is probably the easiest way to go), then you need to connect it to a good usb gamepad. I insist on the good here because it is essential if you want to have a decent expression pedal. The best would be to test the gamepad before buying it and turning it into a pedal. Pierre 2010/6/7 Achim Bloch achim.bl...@yahoo.frhttp://mc/compose?to=achim.bl...@yahoo.fr Hi Pierre and thanx for your answer. I am looking for an expression foot controller. Something working somehow like a wah-wah pedal. But I am unsure if I need a device with an OSC dedicated driver, or if any USB pedal would do the job. What I primarily expect from this device is accuracy, and low-latency. Do you have any examples (photographs, audio samples) of the device you made? I am curious! Achim --- En date de : *Dim 6.6.10, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=pimas...@gmail.com * a écrit : De: Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.comhttp://mc/compose?to=pimas...@gmail.com Objet: Re: [PD] Looking for a pedal controller À: Achim Bloch achim.bl...@yahoo.frhttp://mc/compose?to=achim.bl...@yahoo.fr Date: Dimanche 6 juin 2010, 20h40 Hi Achim, I've built one myself, based on a usb gamepad. I can give you some tips. But you'll have to be more precise about what you really need (expression pedal or just switches?) Pierre 2010/6/6 Achim Bloch achim.bl...@yahoo.frhttp://mc/compose?to=achim.bl...@yahoo.fr Hi listees I'm looking for a pedal controller that is accurate enough to send OSC messages to pd, in order to control some effect patches for my guitar. Can anyone help me in finding a good one, maybe providing a perqsonal experience feedback? Thanks in advance, Achim ___ Pd-list@iem.at http://mc/compose?to=pd-l...@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at http://mc/compose?to=pd-l...@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] many DVI ports with Debian/Ubuntu and Gem
Hans look at ARandaR, it will let you place the outputs where you want. Patrick, maybe it needs to be linux, because it needs to be reliable, something very hard to achieve in windows machine (by my own experience...) 2010/6/3 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Hans Does it have to be linux? I have 5 contiguous 1400x1050 x x x x x giving 7000x1050 in Winxp, if you are using GEM windows might be a solution -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Hans-Christoph Steiner Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 5:08 PM To: cyrille henry Cc: PD list Subject: Re: [PD] many DVI ports with Debian/Ubuntu and Gem The screens we are currently specing are 1080p, so each output should be able to do 1080. The idea is to have 10 contiguous screens all in a line show one Gem space. They can show up on the computer as contiguous or separate screens, that doesn't matter, I can handle the difference in Gem. I think it might be easier to have them show up as separate screens. I can break it up across multiple computers if that's easier, I'm mostly trying to reduce the expense. I am just showing images, so not heavy on the CPU/GPU. .hc On Jun 3, 2010, at 4:37 PM, cyrille henry wrote: hello, with things like doublehead2go, or triplehead2go : http://www.matrox.com/graphics/fr/products/gxm/th2go/ you can easily have lot's of screen on 1 computer. (downside is that the screen are only horizontal) i made a 6 screen installation with a 400€ desktop having good performance. (GPU was a NVIDIA 9600 or something : only use nvidia gpu on linux if you need good performance and are not afraid of proprietary driver). but what is the resolution of the screen? to have a screen disposition like this : x x x x x x is less a problem than like this : x x x x x x The size of openGL windows is hardware limited. usually 4096x4096, but can go up to 8192x8192 with GPU having lot's of memory (go for 1go video Ram). cyrille Le 03/06/2010 19:23, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I am looking into doing a 10 screen installation using Pd/Gem. I'd like to run it on as few computers as possible. Anyone have any recommendations for Debian or Ubuntu setups that can have like many DVI ports in one computer? .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] missing objects in Pd Extended
As far as i know, not all the externals are enabled by default on pd-extende, maybe try to do [import mrpeach] and see if it works, other way you can do it is choosing the folder of the external you want on file - startup and add the name of the folder with the external you want, this way it will always load on startup 2010/5/27 Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com Hi, Too often I browse the help-browser of Pd Extended and some of the objects in the help-patches of some externals cannot create. Often even the object whose help patch I'm opening does not exist. For example [tcpsocketserver] is missing while there is a tcpsocketserver-help.pd patch in MrPeach folder, or [nsend] is missing while there is a nsend-help.pd patch. And now I don't remember but there were a few more... Is it normal? I mean have these objects been removed [or renamed] for some reason and the author forgot to remove [or update] the help patches? Or is there something wrong in the Pd Extended I have downloaded? (0.41.4 Windows) Thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistise...@gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] script src='mypatch.pd' type='text/puredata' ?
FTW! chris, awesome :D 2010/5/21 Georg Holzmann g...@mur.at Hey Chris ! Very nice - will have a look at it ... ;) LG Georg chrism schrieb: http://mccormick.cx/dev/webpd/tests.html For sound you will want these builds of Firefox: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Audio_Data_API Source code: http://code.google.com/p/web-pure-data/ Mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/web-pure-data/ No promises. Patches welcome! Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://grh.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] script src='mypatch.pd' type='text/puredata' ?
mine worked flawless, i am on ubuntu 10.04 and i downloaded a firefox buid firefox-3.7a5pre.en-US.linux-i686-audio-data-api-12. 2010/5/21 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Works but locks up the browser Minefield -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Georg Holzmann Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 7:05 AM To: chrism Cc: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] script src='mypatch.pd' type='text/puredata' ? Hey Chris ! Very nice - will have a look at it ... ;) LG Georg chrism schrieb: http://mccormick.cx/dev/webpd/tests.html For sound you will want these builds of Firefox: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Audio_Data_API Source code: http://code.google.com/p/web-pure-data/ Mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/web-pure-data/ No promises. Patches welcome! Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://grh.mur.at ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] arduino and digital outputs
As far as I know, the pduino is not made for the arduino mega. so it could work, but you need to test it out. also the firmata firmware would need also some tweak since the mega has more outputs/inputs and analog ports 2010/5/19 Andres Ferrari an...@yahoo.com hello, When I use the abstraction [arduino] or [comport] object the numbers of the digital outputs (pins) of the arduino hardware don't match with the output's numbers of the patch. for example, when i send 1 to digital output 12 from puredata the led connected to digital out 12 don't turn on but ...but turn on in digital out 14... only works pins from 10- 13 but 0- 9 dont't work. When I've tested from the arduino's software with a sketch there aren't any problem, all works fine. Is it a [comport]r or Firmata problem? I have osx 10.5 and arduino mega. Any suggestions?.thanks a lot!!! Andrés Ferrari G. http://www.myspace.com/anfex ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] arduino and digital outputs
I also forgot to mention that this issue was mentioned on this list before. there is a link for a firmata firmware made for the mega from the made by the teensy guy. http://www.pjrc.com/tmp/firmata/ check the list in here http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg31148.html 2010/5/19 Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com As far as I know, the pduino is not made for the arduino mega. so it could work, but you need to test it out. also the firmata firmware would need also some tweak since the mega has more outputs/inputs and analog ports 2010/5/19 Andres Ferrari an...@yahoo.com hello, When I use the abstraction [arduino] or [comport] object the numbers of the digital outputs (pins) of the arduino hardware don't match with the output's numbers of the patch. for example, when i send 1 to digital output 12 from puredata the led connected to digital out 12 don't turn on but ...but turn on in digital out 14... only works pins from 10- 13 but 0- 9 dont't work. When I've tested from the arduino's software with a sketch there aren't any problem, all works fine. Is it a [comport]r or Firmata problem? I have osx 10.5 and arduino mega. Any suggestions?.thanks a lot!!! Andrés Ferrari G. http://www.myspace.com/anfex ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] - Puredata for mac os Classic Powerbook g3
Well, i dont have tutorials, but you can install ubuntu easily and then install XFCE after that, or you can use the alternate installer and install the minimum system, and then make a $sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop. You will need to have ethernet connection to the internet to install it. You can download it from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/lucid/release/ 2010/5/12 bernardo amorim bernardo.amo...@gmail.com Ok ricardo do advice on xubuntu? ubuntu with XFCE? can you help me or point me to some tutorial to make install it in my powerbook? thanks alot bern On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com wrote: well, i have it working on xubuntu on old iMacs (the 266Mhz and 400Mhz) and it works. at least vanilla Pd 2010/5/11 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu I have it running with ubuntu on a G4 and it works very well -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter Plessas Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:18 PM To: bernardo amorim Cc: PD list Subject: Re: [PD] - Puredata for mac os Classic Powerbook g3 I run (ran) Pd under Debian-powerpc on my G3 Powerbook. Might take too much time though to set it up. You should give it a try. P bernardo amorim wrote: hi all is there a puredata for os classic 9.22 thanks bern ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- 2010 Confidencialidade de Correio electrónico Este email destina-se exclusivamente à(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigido e não deverá em caso algum ser reencaminhado ou reutilizado para nenhum fim a não ser aquele para o qual foi criado. Aplicável tambem aos attachments. -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] - Puredata for mac os Classic Powerbook g3
well, i have it working on xubuntu on old iMacs (the 266Mhz and 400Mhz) and it works. at least vanilla Pd 2010/5/11 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu I have it running with ubuntu on a G4 and it works very well -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Peter Plessas Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:18 PM To: bernardo amorim Cc: PD list Subject: Re: [PD] - Puredata for mac os Classic Powerbook g3 I run (ran) Pd under Debian-powerpc on my G3 Powerbook. Might take too much time though to set it up. You should give it a try. P bernardo amorim wrote: hi all is there a puredata for os classic 9.22 thanks bern ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gigs with Pd
Hello list, Well i do have in mind some ideas i want to implement with pd/hardware, one of them is using a single board computer to run pd without GUI, just using some little lcd screen. Maybe using a beagle board, that features a ARM Cortex A8 that has some floating point support, with the NEON instruction SET(I will need to recompile Pd for that). Other than that i can also post the Hardware/Setup i used on some performances. The hardware list is : Computer - Dell Studio 1737 Audio Interface - Edirol FA-101 MIDI Foot controller - Behringer FCB1010 Bassoon bocal pickup a wireless send/receive from Sennheiser and sometimes I use external sensors, like the wiimote, or some others connected to an Arduino board. Software side is: OS: UbuntuStudio, Driver/sound server: Jack/FFADO and of course, Pd I have a video of one of the performances, it was my first public performance using RT effects and using Pd, It is not very good, but I am looking forward to improve it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNsOtl8ia0k 2010/5/7 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com What kind of documentation would you like? I can tell you about the hardware: - Dell D520 Laptop with Intel Core2 Duo, with Fedora 12 and the Planet CCRMA rt kernel. - EMU 0404 USB soundcard (2 ins 2 outs) - A small Shure transformer to turn the balanced output of the soundcard into an unbalanced input for the amp. - Foot controller made off the cheapest USB analog gamepad one can find (I'd recommend going for a higher quality, though...) I could send you some pictures of the controller, too. As i said before i doubt that my patch is written well enough for it to be worth sharing. Yet i'll always be there to help if someone wants to make his own. Pierre 2010/5/7 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at It would be great to see some documentation of this setup so that others can learn from it. You might be interested in Pd on Android, iPhone, Maemo, etc. and other mobile devices. Mobile devices are getting quite powerful, and they are already small. Then you'd even have a battery powered setup ;) .hc On May 2, 2010, at 8:37 AM, Pierre Massat wrote: Hello everyone! There was a discussion not too long ago about suitability of Pd in a live context (off the smoother audio thread i think). I just wanted to say that i use Pd everytime i play a gig with my band as a super multi effects. I have never experienced any crash in Pd, and the sound is just excellent, and everybody keeps asking me what the hell are these pedals and this software and how the eff do i make all these sounds, and well, i just think this is the future. I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of hardware that's small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll have the perfect gear (perfect for me). Just wanted to share this. Cheers! Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone. --Bjarne Stroustrup (creator of C++) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended on Ubuntu 9.10
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/ has versions for ubuntu 9.10 2010/5/1 Emerson Aagaard emerson.aaga...@gmail.com Hello all, I'm somewhat new to Linux: I've been using it for about a year, but not very heavily (no development type stuff or anything), and I've also been using pd for awhile. I'm using Ubuntu 9.10, by the way. I wanted to install pd-extended, but it depends on libmagick++1 and libmagickcore1 but neither of these are installable. I'm not really sure how to remedy this, and I can't really find anything in any forums about this, so I would appreciate some help. Let me know if there's any additional information I need to provide. Emerson ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] connect arduino COM port
send a message to the object [arduino] with the text [devices it will list the serial port devices on the pd console and the number associated. look at arduinot-test.pd inside the pduino folder 2010/4/24 Camilo Cadavid Corredor cccada...@hotmail.com Hello, I just got started working with arduino. Reading about the conection between Pd and arduino i found that i have to sync the firmware into the arduino board. After I do this i have to find out which COM port my USB conection gave the board. I have a MAC-OS X 10.6.3 version. Could someone please help me to find this... I appreciate it. -- Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ubuntu on mac no audio pd
and after that you can look into this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation It may help you. and also, AFAIK you can instal the package ubuntustudio controls to help you to set some configurations. 2010/4/22 Ariane stolfi arianesto...@gmail.com hi, I don't know if you had followed this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Intel_iMac#Sound for imac https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CategoryMac for other macs they have steps to get mostly of your hardware working a 2010/4/22 Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 20:04 +0200, András Murányi wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com wrote: Dear list: hello to everybodyi have a problem, in the university i request about a second partition with ubuntu 9.04 for working with pd, they use a mac intel intel core 2 duo, desktop line, i installed pd and work, but the sound no...in all the system. Any idea or command in terminal? dependences? pulse audio Thanks a lot José Pulseaudio is... err, a mess, imho. Go for jack - install jackd and qjackctl if needed. It will most likely work, or if not, it will give you detailed error messages Just for the sake of completeness (I personally also prefer the jack way): $ pasuspender pd This way you can have direct access to the audio hardware, which is otherwise occupied by pulseaudio. Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ZenGarden license x Pure Data license
from Miller's Source package license.txt This software is copyrighted by Miller Puckette and others. The following terms (the Standard Improved BSD License) apply to all files associated with the software unless explicitly disclaimed in individual files: Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met: 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. 3. The name of the author may not be used to endorse or promote products derived from this software without specific prior written permission. In my viewing, you are just restricted to use the copyright, so yest they can, provided they add the copyright if they distribute it, the license doesn't tell you to keep the same license when distributing it... well its what i think, but i am not a lawyer... 2010/4/19 Jarbas Jacome jand...@gmail.com Hello all. Nice project. I have a question: As ZenGarden is LGPL, doesn't it allow someone to do a proprietary and closed software using it? If yes, doesn't it conflicts with Pure Data license? thank you very much. jjR ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Free samples somewhere on the net?
I think than in the rjdj lib, or inside the rjdj's composer pack, is a e-piano patch. I kinda liked it. For sure you will use a lot less ram :) On 15 Apr 2010 13:46, tim vets timv...@gmail.com wrote: Speaking of samplebanks, an interesting approach in pd would be to do a good Rhodes modeling patch, rather than using a samplebank... For example, I was quite impressed when I heard the 'pianoteq' piano modeling instrument. It's not pd, nor is it free software, but I can't help but think something similar should be possible to make in a pd patch...no? 2010/4/15 martin brinkmann m...@martin-brinkmann.de i often use sounds from the olpc project: http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Sound_samples there are... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd.exe as a virus
well, i can say that in a windows XP machine with Avast antivirus, Pd is not recognized as a virus, but i had to add an exception to the firewall. 2010/4/14 Lorenzo lsut...@libero.it Maybe it's because Pd opens a network connection to the wish application on the same machine and some antivirus programs think that's suspect, since for all they know the other program could be doing something nasty; they should really check that the other program is networking to the outside world but that would be too much work. But I must say this has never happened to me from the antivirus. What did happen on some 'fresh' windows (XP) installs is that you got get the dumb windows firewall warning to which you simply add an exception. I guess it would also be good to file a false-positive notification to the antivirus vendor. Lorenzo Martin Ricardo Dueñas Parada wrote: Thanks for the answers, of course it is solved adding an exception to AVG. Just wanted to know if there was a reason maybe related to the executable. I tried to add a FAQ entry, but I can´t find the add FAQ button. Of course I tried being logged in. Ricardo. On 13 April 2010 10:08, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Since this question comes up every couple months, it would be great to have a FAQ entry on it. Could a Windows user take it on? http://puredata.info/docs/faq .hc On Apr 6, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Lorenzo wrote: Hello Colet, colet.patr...@free.fr wrote: Hello Lorenzo, do you have something like this in your computer: Program Files\Pop up Blocker\pd.exe Actually I do not suffer that problem myself anyway I imagine the original sender will find the information useful. Lorenzo. ? Or maybe Pd.exe has entered into virus database because - Mail Original - De: Ricardo Lameiroricardolame...@gmail.com À: Lorenzolsut...@libero.it Cc: pd-list@iem.at Envoyé: Mercredi 31 Mars 2010 17h53:46 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [PD] pd.exe as a virus It will be a lame answer if you need to fix all the windows computers that i fix, because people use windows. Call it what you want. But linux just is safer. this is no a go away, but a open your eyes warning i gave and yes, PD works better in linux where you believe it or not 2010/3/31 Lorenzo lsut...@libero.it Ricardo Lameiro wrote: you should try to move into linux, its safer and pd works better in it :D Yes and that's the typical lame answer that puts off people from even trying linux, and it also sounds so.. uhm.. mac :( No dia 30 de Março de 2010 23:23, Ricardo Dueñas Parada rduen...@gmail.com escreveu: Hi, I´m recently being adviced that pd.exe is a virus, exactly with AVG antivirus, do you know the reason for that? As someone suggested it might be a false positive.. Try and look into what message it gives and maybe contacting the AVG people or writing to community. All the best, Lorenzo. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list [W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity. -John Gilmore ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT] linux multi-output soundcard
You are right, I have a FA-101 . It works great, but it lack a mixer and standalone operation. I regret dont wait and buy a sapffire, but i needed it in short time, so i bought it. I think is a good choice 2010/4/14 Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.com I'm considering to go for the Saffire PRO 40. It's not fully supported at the moment, but FFADO received quite good help from them, they say it's going to be fully supported soon (next 2.1 FFADO release). Any experience about it? I'd prefer to buy this and wait, because of its features and quality, Edirol seems fine but it's too simple for my needs. PCI looks good too but I'm looking for something different. thanks again.. -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] GridFlow 9.8
Lol. Loved it. He he I was really believing ;). On 1 Apr 2010 22:36, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Upcoming version numbers of GridFlow will drop the initial zero as it has become evident that the numbering couldn't possibly get past zero otherwise. GridFlow thus becomes one of the first things in the Pd world to ever go beyond version number 1.0. The next version number will thus be 9.8, and recent version numbers may retroactively be called without the leading zero, where it makes sense. As software improves, expectations improve such that the goal becomes ever farther. Version 1.0 is some point at the horizon, and we can never actually get to the horizon, so, we cannot possibly get to version 1.0. Therefore, major version numbers are useless. CQFD (QED). This is a great step towards staying in touch with the users, who have been heard comparing the pros and cons of GridFlow «9.6» vs «9.7» for a while, among comparisons of PureData «41» and «42», GEM «91» and «92», and so on. I would like to laud those users for their practical sense in numbering that software. Finally, I would like to wish everybody a good April's Fools. Hope you had fun with the fish. _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Puredata Video performances anyone?
Hello fellow list members. I am making a concert with bassoon and electronics/Puredata effects, and i would like to include some videos of pd on the show. The concert will also be a showcase of Puredata capabilities. So I'm here to ask if someone would like to share some videos made with puredata that are CC licensed to include there. I also would like to have some Graph patch that reacts to sound... as i am making improvisation on them. any help will be appreciated Ricardo Lameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Puredata Video performances anyone?
thanks Vilson for the videos :D 2010/3/31 Vilson Vieira vil...@void.cc 2010/3/31 Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com Hello fellow list members. I am making a concert with bassoon and electronics/Puredata effects, and i would like to include some videos of pd on the show. The concert will also be a showcase of Puredata capabilities. Hello Ricardo, here's some videos about puredata, you can use it freely: http://vimeo.com/9009718 http://vimeo.com/9027094 http://vimeo.com/7885446 http://vimeo.com/9180738 So I'm here to ask if someone would like to share some videos made with puredata that are CC licensed to include there. I also would like to have some Graph patch that reacts to sound... as i am making improvisation on them. any help will be appreciated Sound to graph object? Yesterday a friend here suggested to me pix_sig2pix. To see that in action take a look at http://github.com/automata/hackspd/raw/master/glitching.pd Hope to help you. -- Vilson Vieira vil...@void.cc ((( http://automata.cc ))) ((( http://musa.cc ))) -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd.exe as a virus
It will be a lame answer if you need to fix all the windows computers that i fix, because people use windows. Call it what you want. But linux just is safer. this is no a go away, but a open your eyes warning i gave and yes, PD works better in linux where you believe it or not 2010/3/31 Lorenzo lsut...@libero.it Ricardo Lameiro wrote: you should try to move into linux, its safer and pd works better in it :D Yes and that's the typical lame answer that puts off people from even trying linux, and it also sounds so.. uhm.. mac :( No dia 30 de Março de 2010 23:23, Ricardo Dueñas Parada rduen...@gmail.com escreveu: Hi, I´m recently being adviced that pd.exe is a virus, exactly with AVG antivirus, do you know the reason for that? As someone suggested it might be a false positive.. Try and look into what message it gives and maybe contacting the AVG people or writing to community. All the best, Lorenzo. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd.exe as a virus
maybe pd is infected with a virus, or you have some stealth virus on your system that comes to life when you run pd. you should try to move into linux, its safer and pd works better in it :D No dia 30 de Março de 2010 23:23, Ricardo Dueñas Parada rduen...@gmail.comescreveu: Hi, I´m recently being adviced that pd.exe is a virus, exactly with AVG antivirus, do you know the reason for that? Ricardo. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds
great Hans. I love to see the kids wanting to learn and enjoining it. I bet the room was a little bit noise ;) 2010/3/17 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Here's a video of a Pd workshop I taught with 11 year old kids in New York. It was amazing how they picked it up and had so little fear to experiment: http://eyebeam.org/press/media/videos/an-introduction-to-electronic-soundscape-design .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
Man, just change chip. Use the 168 or the 328. and stop complaining, or use google then. people told you what to do, now you should try it. this is open if you want to help document it, so please do. 2010/3/10 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Where do I find the matching Pd Firmata objects for the Firmata in Arduino 18 then? Maybe all of this could be a bit better documented? ;-) D. On 3/10/10 1:17 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The vesrion of Firmata included in Arduino 0018 is the best one, but the one in Pduino-0.5beta6 zip should be fine too. OldStandardFirmata == StandardFirmataV2_0 -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 96: Is the intonation correct? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works
Derek, sorry if me post seamed to harsh or stupid :) iwas only trying to say that you should use the 168 or 328 atmegas. If they don't have a programmer, I found somewhere on the net, that is possible to programm the atmegas using the arduino board. With little modification, Sorry again, I didn't wanted to be rude. Peace :) On 10 Mar 2010 20:23, Koray Tahiroglu koray.tahiro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Derek, As you said institutions have their own way of operating when it comes to upgrading their existing devices, which might even take ages for a single chip changes, I always find it handy to ask the available equipments list beforehand for the workshop. I have been using those Arduino boards since 2006 here in my workshops and courses, and each time we made them work fine based on the student project needs. Last time it was October 2009, without spending more than 15min :), they functioned well with Firmata-2.1beta5, not with StandardFirmata, but the other analog, servo, and simpledigital, and we had three student projects done with sensors+arduino+pduino at the end of the workshop. and yes, we should mention that ATMEGA8 is not good with StandardFirmata, see you tomorrow ;) Koray. On Mar 10, 2010, at 6:57 PM, pd-list-requ...@iem.at wrote: Message: 2 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:48:12 +0100 From: Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl Subject: Re: [PD] osx pduino: nothing works To: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Cc: pd-list PD-list@iem.at Message-ID: 20100310174812.57clvr0ln4880...@webmail.ideeel.nl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp=Yes; format=flowed Hi HC, thanks for clarification. I will try to find some time to stick it in the FLOSS ... - M.Koray Tahiroğlu Media Lab, Aalto University, School of Art and Design http://mlab.taik.fi/~korayt tel: +358 45 233 6272 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] [readanysf~] for ubuntu
Nice one. very useful :D thanks for the release! 2010/3/10 Roman Haefeli reduzie...@yahoo.de Hi all I dug into deb packaging and published the results on a PPA: https://launchpad.net/~reduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+depshttps://launchpad.net/%7Ereduzierer/+archive/rdz-pd-extra+deps Supported are: Ubuntu Karmic (amd64, i386, lpia) Ubuntu Jaunty (amd64, i386, lpia) I hope this works for you (please report back, if not). I had troubles building libgmerlin-avdec1 on Intrepid, that is why there is no [readanysf~] for Intrepid. Hardy seems to involve even more work and I don't know, if it is possible at all. Roman ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] audio breaking
I have the same problem. You should look into the jack control setup and play around with the period and buffer. Pd with other than 2 periods start to give lot of sync erros. The problem is that in a firewire device 2 periods is not enough. So for me its a Pd issue in here. Try it with 2 periods and see if pd gives errors(jack will start to have xruns but its only to test pd). Cya On 6 Mar 2010 10:05, Oded Ben-Tal o...@ccrma.stanford.edu wrote: thanks for the pointers. The setup of rt kernel is one of the main reasons I'm using planetCCRMA version (where nando manages to take care of these issues letting normal users access rt priorities). I am still baffled by the fact that I get synch errors from pd even when not doing any audio (no patch open. and these are not only the initial errors when launching pd). And also the fact that I can get good audio playback reliably from snd (soundeditor). Doesn't that suggest that the problem is not with jack/firewire but perhaps with pd? Oded https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation#line-127 Roman On Thu, 20... ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] making hardware
I am thinking in develop a device like you want. You can think in using a beagle board beagleboard.org. It can run linux, and you can install there PDa (PD anywhere). and the price is not bad. USD$ 150. 2010/3/4 chris clepper cgclep...@gmail.com You can try getting a development kit for a DSP chip like a SHARC which includes audio and video I/O. These chips have a C based development environment, but that is usually an additional cost. The board and software can be $1000 or more. http://www.analog.com/en/embedded-processing-dsp/sharc/21469-EZBRD/processors/product.html http://www.analog.com/en/embedded-processing-dsp/sharc/content/sharc_evaluation_kits/fca.html On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:20 AM, hard off hard@gmail.com wrote: one thing i always use a lot in my pd patches is called a 'wetfilter'. basically it is a bunch of bandpass filters, followed by delaylines of increasing length. kind of oldschool 'spectral delay'. so, i'd love to have this effect in a small hardware box, so i can put some drum machines and synths through it easily. what options are available for putting pd patches into small devices with audio in and out? and, slightly off topic for the pd list, is there already some type of generic 'stomp box' that can load C++ code or something to make effects? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RJDJ, comport, Pd on iPhone, serial communication
Sorry for hijacking the thread. Hans, does the pd-mobile0.43 branch can be built for android? I think it it is a more open platform to use, although you wil, maybe, need to root the phone. 2010/1/21 Frank Barknecht f...@footils.org Hallo, David NG McCallum hat gesagt: // David NG McCallum wrote: I'm looking at doing a project prototype where the audio system is on the iPhone, and it interfaces with an Arduino through serial. I'm assuming since RJDJ is a working version of Pd, I could just use it as the engine for this stage of the prototype. As others wrote, RjDj is just a plain vanilla Pd including only the BSD-licensed parts. Legally it's very hairy to include GPL-stuff in the AppStore. You can use netsend/netreceive to communicate with external hardware, but comport is not supported Ciao -- Frank ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] RJDJ, comport, Pd on iPhone, serial communication
The only way you have is to use the wireless. using netsend. serial port on iPhone isnt supported. You could find a fonera router, hackit and then comunicate whit it via serial, then send info to iphone. O like your idea. But it seams to me that the way to go would be more on the android port than iphone. Mac is way to closed source to allow this kind of communication without paying for it :D Fred, I think it is not supported in the 1st gen ipod, because this device lacks complete support to microphone, even with a ear plugs with mic. I have one but it is 2nd gen. Ricardo Lameiro 2010/1/20 Fred Voisin o...@fredvoisin.com Hi David, I really like to help by trying on my ipodtouch :itunes does not succeed in, is there another way to install rjdj on ipodtouch 1st generation with last system update ? fred David NG McCallum wrote: Hi Chuck, Thanks for chipping in. I need Pd on the iPhone to do the audio component and communication with the Arduino, so I can't ditch rjdj (or whatever way I might get Pd working on the iPhone). I've also poked around and can't find any reference to touchOSC sending anything out of the iPhone's serial pins. My guess is that Patrick is implying that I have Pd running on a separate computer that has the arduino attached to it, which won't work; I need everything done on the iPhone. The solution I'm trying to find is: Pd patch running on the iPhone in communication with an Arduino directly connected to the iPhone. Still hoping there's a solution to this... Thanks! D! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Chuck Wiggins cwiggins...@gmail.commailto: cwiggins...@gmail.com wrote: I'm guessing he's recommending using touchOSC rather than RjDj - it seems like a more direct route to achieve what you are after. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:45 PM, David NG McCallum d...@mentalfloss.ca mailto:d...@mentalfloss.ca wrote: Hi Patrick, Can you clarify that? touchOSC acts as a bridge between rjdj and the serial port? RJDJ sends OSC internally to touchOSC which sends stuff out of the iPhone serial port? And reverse as well? Thanks again, D! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu mailto:p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: OSC with touch osc to Comport *From:* pd-list-boun...@iem.at mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] *On Behalf Of *David NG McCallum *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* pd-liste List *Subject:* [PD] RJDJ, comport, Pd on iPhone, serial communication Hi there list, I'm looking at doing a project prototype where the audio system is on the iPhone, and it interfaces with an Arduino through serial. I'm assuming since RJDJ is a working version of Pd, I could just use it as the engine for this stage of the prototype. Does the [comport] object work in RJDJ and can it communicate with the external serial port on the iPhone? And if the answer is no or yes, but, what are my other options for using Pd on the iPhone and communicating with the serial port? Thanks! Cheers, David --__ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org --__ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] FT232 and PD (OSX)
hey look at this link, it may help you http://wiki.dataflow.ws/comport?highlight=%28comport%29 2009/12/7 Felix Obée fe...@amphibiousthoughts.com Thanks for the help everybody! As I understand it, the Arduino uses the FT232 for communication with the computer. So it should be recognized by pd and comport. I'll do some soldering and see, what I get. http://arduino.cc/en/Main/MiniUSB Is there a further documentation for the comport object, apart from Martins helpfile? I'm also missing a quick reference guide. Somehow OSX has hidden all pd-files from me (probably somewhere root?) and some overview would be nice. The project will hopefully be well documented to the last resistor. Right now we're working on synchronizing the switching to the 0-phase of the sound played, to avoid producing crackles when switching. cheers ff Am 07.12.2009 um 18:03 schrieb John Harrison: On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.comwrote: Not exactly, the Arduino Duemilanove uses the ATmega168 chip. I have no knowledge of the FT232. It uses the FT232 to communicate between the USB and the ATmega168: http://www.scribd.com/doc/18027806/Arduino-Duemilanove-Schematic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd lcd display wavetable?
also check this website. You could check also the arduino site if you want to go into electronics. PD and arduino are friendly :) 2009/12/3 Justin Glenn Smith noisesm...@gmail.com tdrecordable wrote: obama... bump. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM, tdrecordable gateswideo...@gmail.com wrote: hey all Anyone know where i could start looking if i wanted to dump a wave table to be seen on a onto small lcd display. eg http://www.spikenzielabs.com/SpikenzieLabs/LCD_How_To.html For starters, you would want to use the comport object on the pd side. When it comes to building the circuitry between the serial port or usb port on your computer and the LCD screen, check out if there is a http://dorkbot.org/ dorkbot group in your area, I am sure someone there could help you. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd lcd display wavetable?
sorry, forgot to post the site http://lcdsmartie.sourceforge.net/ here it is 2009/12/3 Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.com also check this website. You could check also the arduino site if you want to go into electronics. PD and arduino are friendly :) 2009/12/3 Justin Glenn Smith noisesm...@gmail.com tdrecordable wrote: obama... bump. On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:57 AM, tdrecordable gateswideo...@gmail.com wrote: hey all Anyone know where i could start looking if i wanted to dump a wave table to be seen on a onto small lcd display. eg http://www.spikenzielabs.com/SpikenzieLabs/LCD_How_To.html For starters, you would want to use the comport object on the pd side. When it comes to building the circuitry between the serial port or usb port on your computer and the LCD screen, check out if there is a http://dorkbot.org/ dorkbot group in your area, I am sure someone there could help you. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Anybody use google wave?
Yeah, come tho the IRC channel. Google Wave is still beta, really beta... 2009/11/30 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Adityo Pratomo wrote: Just out of curiosity, anybody here use google wave? I feel that this platform is quite ideal for having real time conversation. So, if many people on the Pd-list here use google wave, we can have some discussion and brainstorming on it :) Join the #dataflow channel on the FreeNode IRC network. Usually there are about 40 people logged in (though most are AFK). _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Anybody use google wave?
Well, I am in Wave now also, but the problem is that not everyone has access to it. so making it a tool for puredata is not yet very practical. although i would love to see a gadget to edit patches in wave :D wonder if it would be possible to link pd to a google wave gadget. 2009/11/30 George Ker geoker...@gmail.com When I got in the Wave, started following a Pure Data Users Google Wave I found there public. https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com!w%252BifpeLm5IC https://wave.google.com/wave/#restored:wave:googlewave.com%21w%252BifpeLm5IC It really doesn't seem busy although I find it great as an idea. On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 12:47, Ricardo Lameiro ricardolame...@gmail.comwrote: Yeah, come tho the IRC channel. Google Wave is still beta, really beta... 2009/11/30 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca On Mon, 30 Nov 2009, Adityo Pratomo wrote: Just out of curiosity, anybody here use google wave? I feel that this platform is quite ideal for having real time conversation. So, if many people on the Pd-list here use google wave, we can have some discussion and brainstorming on it :) Join the #dataflow channel on the FreeNode IRC network. Usually there are about 40 people logged in (though most are AFK). _ _ __ ___ _ _ _ ... | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Studies on sound
Hi. In Spain there is this University. its in Barcelona. http://mtg.upf.edu/ http://www.upf.edu In Portugal, there is also a PhD in Computer Music. languages are English and Portuguese. http://www.artes.ucp.pt/si/doutoramento/index.html hope this help 2009/11/19 Konstantinos Benardis c.benar...@gmail.com Hi list Well, the question is not that relevant with the list´s subject but i can not find another place to ask and i think many people from here would be able to answer. I am trying to find a master degree in digital music/digital sound, in Europe, in English Spanish or Greek. So i wanted to ask if someone knows which Institutes are considered good on this field. Thank you ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Package for ubuntu 9.10 Karmic
Hi. I am wondering if anyone made a package for ubuntu karmic? the debs at the puredata.info, require libmagick++10, and this lib is not at the ubuntu repos. Is it really needed for GEM to have this lib? Or did someone ported GEM for this LIB? Also Who is the DEB Maintainer? maybe I its a good Idea if it is submitted to MOTU and then come in the Universe REPO for the ubuntustudio 10.04 LTS release (lucid) thanks -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound
That is true, but if you want realtime audio and low latency, you need to use jack. And also, the firewire cards (at least the FFADO) work only in Jack. I like the idea of having audio concurrency, which is very good for day to day desktop use, but for professional audio that is not good. I think that Linux shuldn't imitate the bad things in MAC and Windows. If you want Pro audio, you use pro drivers and thas it. Asio came for some reason 2009/11/14 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Pd should just work with PulseAudio. Pd should be able to play audio while other apps are also playing audio. Pd does this on Mac OS X and Windows, so it should do it on GNU/Linux as well. The only question is, what's the best way to do this? Audacity also has this problem, so I guess its not an easy one to solve... .hc On Nov 14, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Lameiro wrote: I think that the problem is PulseAudio. When I try to start jack i really need to shutdoen every program using the server (pulseaudio is a kind of a server) so that jack has control over the sound card. Only after running jack and starting the server, you can open Puredata and then select in media the jack out/in and connect it in qjackctrl. I tested it with Pd vanilla, but I think it will be the same with pd-extended, since is the same audio engine. Remember that need to close all software that uses audio, including firefox etc. 2009/11/14 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at How would we make Pd use that ALSA compatibility layer? I know about the OSS emulation in Pulseaudio, I believe that would work by doing 'padsp pd'. .hc On Nov 13, 2009, at 11:28 PM, John Harrison wrote: IIRC there is some sort of ALSA compatibility layer in Pulseaudio and I think it would be nice if Pd-extended could choose this ALSA driver or soft card or whatever it would be called. That would be a better solution than pasuspender because then Pd would be playing nice with all the other sound apps concurrently. Latency might be slightly worse but I think for beginners at least the initial experience would be more positive, as many of these users are coming from OS X and Windows platforms where sound applications sharing the same sound card concurrently is expected behavior. I also vaguely remember the pulseaudio is only an issue with ALSA when there is no hardware mixer in the card. But my guess is that would be all cheap sound cards, since it has been the case with the built-in cards on all the Linux-based laptops I run into. -John On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Is pasuspender something that could be integrated into the Pd-extended menu launch item somehow? I'd really like to make sure that Pd will output audio by just starting it in Debian/Ubunut. .hc On Nov 12, 2009, at 12:09 PM, John Harrison wrote: could be pulseaudio is the problem? from the command line try pasuspender pd On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Aditya Mandayam adity...@gmail.comwrote: hi, i have pd installed on ubunty 9.10 - karmic koala. i have absolutely no sound when i fire up pd. i've tried fooling around with the Mediasettings for OSS, ALSA, jack, default MIDI. No sound. What gives? Thank you, Y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison/http://alumni.media.mit.edu/%7Eharrison/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra -- John http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison/http://alumni.media.mit.edu/%7Eharrison/ [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro The arc of history bends towards justice. - Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PD with Ubuntu Karmic - no sound
I think that the problem is PulseAudio. When I try to start jack i really need to shutdoen every program using the server (pulseaudio is a kind of a server) so that jack has control over the sound card. Only after running jack and starting the server, you can open Puredata and then select in media the jack out/in and connect it in qjackctrl. I tested it with Pd vanilla, but I think it will be the same with pd-extended, since is the same audio engine. Remember that need to close all software that uses audio, including firefox etc. 2009/11/14 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at How would we make Pd use that ALSA compatibility layer? I know about the OSS emulation in Pulseaudio, I believe that would work by doing 'padsp pd'. .hc On Nov 13, 2009, at 11:28 PM, John Harrison wrote: IIRC there is some sort of ALSA compatibility layer in Pulseaudio and I think it would be nice if Pd-extended could choose this ALSA driver or soft card or whatever it would be called. That would be a better solution than pasuspender because then Pd would be playing nice with all the other sound apps concurrently. Latency might be slightly worse but I think for beginners at least the initial experience would be more positive, as many of these users are coming from OS X and Windows platforms where sound applications sharing the same sound card concurrently is expected behavior. I also vaguely remember the pulseaudio is only an issue with ALSA when there is no hardware mixer in the card. But my guess is that would be all cheap sound cards, since it has been the case with the built-in cards on all the Linux-based laptops I run into. -John On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Is pasuspender something that could be integrated into the Pd-extended menu launch item somehow? I'd really like to make sure that Pd will output audio by just starting it in Debian/Ubunut. .hc On Nov 12, 2009, at 12:09 PM, John Harrison wrote: could be pulseaudio is the problem? from the command line try pasuspender pd On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Aditya Mandayam adity...@gmail.comwrote: hi, i have pd installed on ubunty 9.10 - karmic koala. i have absolutely no sound when i fire up pd. i've tried fooling around with the Mediasettings for OSS, ALSA, jack, default MIDI. No sound. What gives? Thank you, Y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- John http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison/http://alumni.media.mit.edu/%7Eharrison/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra -- John http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison/http://alumni.media.mit.edu/%7Eharrison/ [T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government. - Martin Luther King, Jr. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] hosting
Could be GIT or something. maybe being a mirror of the info that is actually at puredata.info 2009/11/8 errordevelo...@gmail.com Hello Fabio, it could be fabulous to get have a stand-alone host for pd community could be great! then we could have it as central SVN (or may be even bazar?) independent from sf.net ;) and some pretty web interface with some documentation and comments on how the abstractions and externals are actually working @:) basically SVN web-vier with discussion etc .. ;) also various projects could make their oun page too ;}~ On Sat, Nov 07, 2009 at 04:51:20PM +0100, mbutubuntu wrote: Hello folks, I'm Fabio Buda and I recently started to work with hosting; I support OpenSource and FreeSoftware and I'm offering free hosting+DB services to opensource projects or communities, are puredata community interested in it? Best Regards, Fabio Buda +39 338 9423302 http://www.netd.it ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] FFT calculations - Theory help
Hello all, sorry for this question, but I would like to know if is faster to Analyze a sound using FFT, when the sound has more or less harmonics? Is faster if the sound is less complex, or just more accurate? -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Help - DIO errors jack+ffado+RT kernel
hello everyone! Well I have a little problem with DIO errors in PD. It seams that it doesn't like the period/buffer set to 3 in jack. When I set the period/buffer in jack to 2 it works without DIO errors, but as I am using firewire device, the external device gets really unstable leading to a driver crash (normally it is recommended to use 3 periods/buffer in firewire devices). When I set de buffer/periods to 3, jack and the device works great, but PD starts to have a lot of DIO errors. For the record I tested a multitude of settings, both the PD side and jack side. I am using 2.6.24-24-rt Kernel, and starting jack and PD with the -rt flags. Distro is UbuntuStudio 8.04.3. I tested the diferent settings both at 48k and 44.1k and frames that go from 64 to 512 or eve 1024. the only more stable conf I made gave me an audio latency of 20 ms. I ask is someone has some ideas in ho to solve this problem and also if the 20 ms latency is acceptable or not for a live performance, using PD as a effect box with pitchifters, loopers, synth using fiddle etc... P.S.I alsoio tried to use diferent values on PD's flags -audiobuf. Sorry for this big and anoying mail. Thanks Ricardo Lameiro -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
