[PD] OSX and pd-extended 0.43.1
Hi Hans Are the builds for os x functional at the moment? I've just downloaded the latest 0.43.1 and it tried to open; the post window flashes up and immediately it quits. Tested on 10.6.7 thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Jack OSX latest beta and Pd jack midi
Very true, I have used this method fairly successfully although jitter is unavoidable. What this new beta brings to the table however is sample accurate midi as it creates a bridge between core midi and jack. Mike Moser-Booth mmoserbo...@gmail.com wrote: MIDI routing in OSX can be done using the built-in IAC drivers in the AudioMIDI Setup. .mmb On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Si Mills smi...@rootsix.net wrote: Hi, the latest beta for jack osx is pretty significant in that its essentially rewire for open source. I'm just testing it out however, and Pd, when running in jack mode, doesn't seem to report its midi ports to JackPilot. Is the support for jack midi already built in our does our need to be developed? Cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Mike Moser-Booth mmoserbo...@gmail.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Jack OSX latest beta and Pd jack midi
Hi, the latest beta for jack osx is pretty significant in that its essentially rewire for open source. I'm just testing it out however, and Pd, when running in jack mode, doesn't seem to report its midi ports to JackPilot. Is the support for jack midi already built in our does our need to be developed? Cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI speed
Is this not what the 0.43 gui rewrite is about? (or have I misunderstood) On 28 Sep 2010, at 09:47, Lorenzo wrote: IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-09-28 00:32, Bernardo Barros wrote: (well, poor performance *is* a bug) i suspect this is not meant seriously, but why post it? It looks like the gui discussion and 'critique' really reiterates so often :/ IMHO it would be so nice if someone could do a cool (yet simple) proof of concept of external GUI (qt, gtk, whatever) + Pd... Wish I had the time right now :) Lorenzo fgmas IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd using 25% cpu when opened
Hi, currently in Jack mode it does the reverse - Turn dsp off and the cpu rises! S On 20 Jan 2010, at 16:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yup, try profiling it with Shark. Basically, its 25% CPU time of idle calls... if you use Jack, this goes down to a couple percent. Or try the callback function in the audio config. .hc On Jan 20, 2010, at 9:18 AM, Rich E wrote: I just noticed that when I open pd, without a patch and with default settings, it uses 25% cpu according to the Activity Monitor. If I turn on dsp then turn it back off, it drops to almost nothing. I'm running OS X Snow Leopard 10.6. I first noticed this using the 0.43 devel branch, but then experienced the same thing using the 0.42-5 dmg from Miller's website. Anyone else experiencing this? rich ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder. - Chris McCormick ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
This might be useful http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2006-04/037439.html bot abstractions use this technique. You could have a parent abstraction containing gop subpatches, and then overlay them. Switch on/off their visibility with 'vis' property messages On 19 Nov 2009, at 14:32, Marco Donnarumma wrote: Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution. M 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the size of your desk. on OSX, the software is spaces, JN Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by different screen spaces? (better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too) 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné j...@rom.fr did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ? JN -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] smartphone advice
SO this is certainly interesting When you say Pd builds for Android and iphone, but no audio, what does that mean? THe pd gui works? I have a feeling, in the end, i might play devils advocate and go with the android phone. On 29 Oct 2009, at 18:17, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: THere are a number of developments in this regard: - Pd (pd-gui-rewrite 0.43 branch) now builds directly for Android and Apple iPhoneOS. Maemo should be pretty easy too. No audio yet, but that's in the works. - Pd has been available in the Debian-armel branch for a while, that means lots of devices if you are willing to install your own OS. You can install Debian in parallel with Android. - you can build PDa to run on a wide range of free distros, like Maemo, Familiar, Angstrom, OpenMoko, reware for ipods, Palms, etc. rjdj runs well on iPhoneOS, so that means Pd can be made to work well there. Android will take a fair amount of work to get up to the same level, but in the long run will probably be easier since the platform is a lot more open. .hc On Oct 29, 2009, at 1:34 PM, marius schebella wrote: same problem here, not sure what to get. another device that might be worth checking out is the nokia n900, which is/was scheduled for release some time this year. it runs maemo (nokia's linux version) and - at least on former versions of maemo - it was possible to get pd-anywhere running. But I have not seen/tested it, so I cannot promise anything. for now: I am not sure about the palm, the android g1, g2 both do not run pd (yet...) and I think windows mobile neither, leaves the iphone. marius. 2009/10/29 Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx: On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:33:24PM +, Si Mills wrote: to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on that front soon, I also feel that, and I can see some people lighting the TNT. Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick.- David Zicarelli ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] help : midi problrm with macbook
hi François have you a) got a midi interface plugged in? b) set up an IAC bus in the Audio/Midi setup? If you have neither of these then nothing will appear in the midi settings box in pd. cheers On 3 Nov 2009, at 09:22, François Bardet wrote: Hi all, I recently installed pd-extended on my macbook 10.5.7, and midi does not work. No input or output midi device appears in the pd midi settings window. What should I do ? Thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] smartphone advice
I know the subject of this post sounds like it would be more apt for Which? Mobile or something, but please bear with me.the reason for me posting here will become clear :) i will be getting a new smartphone soon, now I have a few choices: iphone Android Palm Windows Mobile I would like to know which would best for making sounds with, and in the future, running Pd on ultimately. I know iPhone shared the glut of music apps at present, and Android is seemingly devoid of audio apps. I guess the Palm isn't really relevant. For some reason i am turned off the the idea of an iphone - that isn't an anti-apple thing - all the computers i use are apple. I am attracted to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on that front soon, and in the future due to the nature of the platform, is best stead for things to come. What a crazy scenario! So my question is; what is the best, or WILL be the best smartphone for running audio apps? cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] smartphone advice
I know the subject of this post sounds like it would be more apt for 'Which? Mobile' or something, but please bear with me.the reason for me posting here will become clear :) i will be getting a new smartphone soon, now I have a few choices: iphone Android Palm Windows Mobile I would like to know which would best for making sounds with, and in the future, running Pd on ultimately. I know iPhone owns the glut of music apps at present, and Android is seemingly devoid of audio apps. I guess the Palm isn't really relevant. For some reason i am turned off the the idea of an iphone - that isn't an anti-apple thing - all the computers i use are apple. I am attracted to Android as a platform, even though there is bog all for it at the moment, but I feel there is going to be a massive explosion on that front soon, and in the future due to the nature of the platform, is best stead for things to come. What a crazy scenario! So my question is; what is the best, or WILL be the best smartphone for running audio apps? And ultimately your recommendation to me? cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] sc3~ for PD
Hello http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/sc3~/ - Just wondering, how hard would it be to port this to Pd? Is there any sort of external that allows you to write a text based synth directly inside PD? I imagine when clicking on the object would bring up a mini code editor. Sometimes the ability to to use loops and arrays to create objects and can be a real time saver (500 [osc~] each with random pitch variations and amplitudes please!) I need enlightening to the scripting possibilities of Pd I think cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Array Enhancements
Hi Hans/DEv Tem I have a couple of ideas for the Array/Table object, mainly visual: Hide Array name - doesn't seem to be working. Would it be possible to limit the array vertically? This would make manually entering values for a sequencer more usable. Allow a step value for each slider, so selecting increments is easier - I guess an Array in Pd is a array of multi-sliders in a sense Expand appearance - the array indexes could be solid bars Event listeners - so onMouseUp over an array could trigger something Colour properties! I know this is probably flawed for I know not the inner technical workings of Pd, or for its purposes, there are other more suitable methods for gui interaction, but is any of this possible? cheers___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pdj, mxdublin and -schedlib on os x
Hi For those that don't know what mxdublin is, its a java gui tracker sequencer, check this out: http://www.le-son666.com/software/mxdublin/index.html - its looks pretty interesting. I'm having a few teething troubles getting pdj and mxdublin to work. I can get pdj to work the test examples, so I know the whole Java connection is cool. The problem seems to be when instantiating [pdj mxdublin]. Now it is clearly documented that to run a Swing OSC gui in Pd on OS X, one has to reschedule the java gui thread through use of the -schedlib startup flag. In the pdj docs, it says there is a bug in PD that crashes it on startup, so there is a patch for Pd that the author has distributed to remedy this. Lo and behold, Pd is crashing on startup, so I need to fix this. What I can't work out is: a) how to use the *.patch file a) Does the current latest stable version of Pd-extended 0.41.4 need this patch? Any help much appreciated. This will be way cool (i hope) if I can get it working cheers ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Fwd: PD t-shirts
this might help, in true diy Pd style! http://www.instructables.com/id/Screen-Printing%3a-Cheap%2c-Dirty%2c-and-At-Home/ cheers On 21 Jul 2009, at 10:03, harris_pil...@gmx.de wrote: just sent it to hc. sorry. Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: hi there, is anybody still into the tshirt thing? i think i could help with the printing. i'm not good at thinking of designs though. bang- until was quite common-sense - afaik there hasnt been lot response on that!? i wanted to bring up the topic again - basically because i want a pd-tshirt too :) cheers Am 06.04.2009 um 06:23 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: I like the DIY way. It would be great if people organized their own fundraisers and bounties. I think that fits in well with the anarchic nature of Pd. There are things like cafepress.com for t-shirts and the like. It is more expensive than doing it yourself, probably, but its easier. It would be nice to see more than one Pd t-shirt available. I'd like bang-until and that cake, for example. .hc On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote: Thanks Kyle, That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do. I also cannot afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and I'm sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat. A documentation bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and give them a way of justifying their time. And, I agree, probably more worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo. In regards to designs, and printing: I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be raised) for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a solid price estimate in the next couple days. Also, this seems more in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e- mailing a .Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through them. I have couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been submitted to me via this list. So, hopefully by the end of the weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the list for feedback. -Ben On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz kylek...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty. I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the money in trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the cash in. Then create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key features are to be implemented and the financial payment for each. You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say $20 US each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing existing patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades to go. I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd- con. I'd love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather see some solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to do it! (Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly). ~Kyle On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.com wrote: I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon. But, having never been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns. I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make PD more accessible to new users. Does the convention encourage/promote documentation? Is time spent at the convention trying to increase the existing body of literature? If so, then I'm all for it. I just don't want to settle on PdCon if it's only useful to attendees. (of course, I understand that in a good open-source community knowledge gained by any members contributes in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list) Glad to hear the interest. I'm still looking into the best way to go about printing, selling, and distributing. If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help and added input. -Ben On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay acastong...@artengine.ca wrote: Hi Ben, all, We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention in Montréal. We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with the proceeds :-). Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo? The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the original t's I should still have it if you want. À bientôt, Alexandre Hello List, I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts. I haven't totally worked out the logistics. Basically I was inspired by the [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer available as far as I can tell. Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the proceeds toward further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly documented objects (or example patches,
Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.41.4-rc3 released!
Hi Hans Is the Jack OSX cpu issue likely to be fixed for this release? All in all its felling really tight this version! cheers On 27 May 2009, at 05:11, Matt Barber wrote: PS -- this Fedora hack almost works well for object and message boxes -- some of the mappings seem wrong (fiddling with the values in gnome on Fedora 10 changes nothing for me). This hack also doesn't affect font size for labels on gui objects (sliders, bangs, etc.) -- these are too large still. I haven't yet tried it in data structures. I have a feeling something awful is afoot. I'll post screenshot comparisons when I can get back to my fedora machine. Thanks a bunch for your patience on this, Matt Excellent, could you add info that to the FAQ entry on this topic: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/on-gnu-linux-the-fonts-are-strange-and-or-too-big-or-small .hc On May 26, 2009, at 10:45 PM, Hector Centeno wrote: ah! I found the source of the problem. Googling for the font size issue in Fedora I found that it seems that Gnome in Fedora 10 has problems auto-detecting the right DPI for the display. In the Font section of the Appearance Preferences, clicking on Details shows a configuration window where the resolution in DPI can be set. I changed that to 96 and the fonts work fine in PD with the original values in Pd-0.41.4-extended-rc3. Cheers, Hector On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Hector Centeno hcen...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I do have that code in pd.tk which I had already hacked before in a similar way. Under OpenSuse those font sizes work fine but in Fedora the 8 has to be changed by 7 like this: set sizelist 5 6 7 9 10 12 14 16 19 25 For some reason in general the fonts in Fedora look bigger. After getting use to the sizes in OpenSuse I had to reduce everything in the gnome settings. Cheers, Hector ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] rewire for pd?
Funny you should say - here's an example of Jack transport being incorporated into a closed source product (Linux only?!) http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/26/renoise-21-now-with-mac-pc-rewire-plus-jack-on-linux-live-performance-tools/ On 23 May 2009, at 15:32, Mike Moser-Booth wrote: (sorry Luigi, forgot to include the list) Luigi wrote: Hi Joao As i understand - there is nothing you can do with rewire, that cannot be done with jack, right ? Please correct me if i'am wrong ReWire has transport syncing and is widely supported by most commercial software. I know there's jack-transport, but I don't know of anything that's not an open source linux-based app that uses it. Also, on OSX ReWire is more reliable than IAC for sending MIDI. The major downside to ReWire, though, is that audio can only go one way: from slave to master. This has pissed me off more than once. It'd be nice if jack-transport support could spread beyond open source software, as it would likely make open source software more accessible. .mmb Luigi Am 23.Mai.09 um 23.Mai.09 MESZ 13:25 schrieb João Pais: Hi, anyone interested in adding rewire support for pd? So far I read the protocoll is free, though proprietary. (but I don't know much about it) João Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmp...@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list - Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensingh...@freenet.de ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] max/ pd lexicon
For really good comprehensive documentation also there's: http://en.flossmanuals.net/puredata and http://www.pd-tutorial.com/ - which has useful sequencing tips cheers On 23 Apr 2009, at 08:41, hard off wrote: hi steve, welcome! frank forgot to mention his excellent spectral delay. http://footils.org/cms/weblog/2007/feb/20/beginners-guide-fft-objects-pd/ also search for the following for a bit of fun: netpd , rjlib , diy2 just google pure data plus those words and yoU'll find them all. heaps more stuff out there. yoU'll find it. also check the forum, again google pure data forum for the link. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-Extended 0.40.3 + Jack OSX
Have you noticed when turning off audio that cpu jumps up in the Jack cpu meter? Switch back on reduces it... weird On 12 Mar 2009, at 09:35, Derek Holzer wrote: Situation improves when using latest Pd-Extended 0.41 nightly build + latest JackOSX package. D. Derek Holzer wrote: This combination crashes immediately, reproducible every time. I've tried standard the Sourceforge version and also the latest nightly build (Jan 2009). D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 68: Faced with a choice, do both ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Jack OS X/audio off - uses more cpu??
Hi Has anyone notice this: start Pd in Jack mode - cpu is ~0% turn on audio - cpu is still ~0% turn off audio - cpu jumps up to ~30% turn on audio - cpu falls back to ~0% what can this be? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] nearest power of 2
Hardoff* has actually :-) Uses bonk~ and works bloody well.
*is there a link for that somewhere?
On 12 Dec 2008, at 00:25, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
This is neat. Please share your continued research in this
territory. Also, has anyone made a beat slicer that chops up a sound
file based on transients?
~Kyle
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 11:07 AM, hard off hard@gmail.com wrote:
may as well post the patch i guess. actually it just gets the NEXT
power of 2, not the nearest, but that is fine for my purpose - which
is to decide how many slices to make in a sound file to cut it into
individual beats.
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Re: [PD] looking for collections - patches
Ouch! I remember a fft-effects collection, tha i cant remember who made them, i think it was a southamerican composer studying in the netherlands any ideas ? was it fftease? http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/FFTease/ I am about to buy ableton live, i remember someone made something that was similiar to abletons elastic-audio/warp concept. Any Ideas which project/collection that was ? was it Gyre? http://www.audionerd.com/projects/pd/gyre/ good luck with that All the best Luigi ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] looking for collections - patches
I think the ones on that page were compiled for ppc
you need the intel build ones, which oddly don't feature on there...
(although the source is if you want to roll your own)
Download intel ones here then install as normal like the ppc package
On 7 Nov 2008, at 16:37, Lao Yu wrote:
On Nov 7, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Si Mills wrote:
was it fftease? http://www.sarc.qub.ac.uk/~elyon/LyonSoftware/MaxMSP/FFTease/
FFTease doesn't run on an intelmac ('can't load library' error) -
does anybody know about a recent version?
Also, at least one of the authors is not studying any longer, his e-
mail address is not updated on the site you quoted.
On an older G4 the library loads but I can't get the links to the
objects work ok. Also very strange...
This seems to be a very interesting package, what a pity.
J
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Re: [PD] sequencer app for osx
Did you try this? http://iannix.la-kitchen.fr/ On 10 Aug 2008, at 19:39, Martin Schied wrote: I'm also looking for various midi and OSC sequencers (not only for pd) at the moment and have found some promising and some not-so promising applications: -Promising: Ardour is going to support midi (currently only in svn) - didn't try it yet, but I will do soon. Interface looks very usable on screenshots. Midi editing in EnergyXT2 was also fine - but it can't send midi until now as far as i know. It's nonfree (about 50$): piano roll, with blocks: yes drag start and end points to control noteon/noteoff points: yes (doubleclick creates new notes) quantize to a grid of any size you want (and off): yes hot-key: yes lines down the bottom control velocity: yes super-intuitive scroll: yes (mouswheel + keyboard) super-intuitive zoom: yes, but no vertical zoom (?) ability of fullscreen editing in a separate window: yes, but I wasn't able to expand distinct tracks, but I think that's possible too. Qtractor seemed to be very usable too in current version (0.2.0, build 2008/08/10): piano roll, with blocks: yes drag start and end points to control noteon/noteoff points: yes quantize to a grid of any size you want (and off): yes hot-key: no (or i didn't find it) lines down the bottom control velocity: yes super-intuitive scroll: yes (mouswheel + keyboard) super-intuitive zoom: yes, but no mouse-wheel-shortcut ability of fullscreen editing in a separate window Currently I'm using Mackie Tracktion (using wine under Linux) for midi recording and editing, but its GUI is too CPU consuming for bigger projects. piano roll, with blocks: yes drag start and end points to control noteon/noteoff points: yes quantize to a grid of any size you want (and off): no fixed gridsize, but changing gridsize at different zoom-levels (very intuitive) hot- key: yes lines down the bottom control velocity: yes super-intuitive scroll: yes (mouswheel + keyboard) super-intuitive zoom: yes ability of fullscreen editing in a separate window: no -Working but not my flavour of using a Sequencer (didn't try velocity editing and shortcuts) Rosegarden MusE -Not so promising: too many... (-; some links to some links: https://puredata.info/Members/syntax_the_nerd/seqwiki/Sequencerwikihome/ http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/linux/MIDI_SEQUENCERS/ hope I could help someone. Martin Damian Stewart wrote: Martin Peach wrote: (since i haven't yet found a pure Pd sequencer i'm happy with) What makes you sad about Pd sequencers? Maybe it's fixable. have you ever used Ableton's MIDI sequencer? it's a piano roll, with blocks for notes. drag start and end points to control noteon/noteoff points. quantize to a grid of any size you want (switchable with a hot-key) or turn off quantization completely to finetune timing (for that little 'humanized' extra, whatever that might mean). super-intuitive scroll and zoom with a single mouse button drag in the top. the main features in this i'm interested in is the quantization grid control, and the ability to super fine-tune note durations. lines down the bottom control velocity. if you have two notes on the piano roll trigger at the same time, it's super-easy to choose which note's velocity you're editing. i don't believe it's do-able in Pd, not without a ridiculous amount of work, and i'm too lazy to do the work myself (and if i wasn't, i'd do it from scratch in a different programming language eg Processing or C+ +, rather than fighting Tcl/Tk). Why not run three instances of midifile or even textfile with the same data? yes, this is what i'm already doing. the problem is generating said midifile/textfiles in the first place. - easy access to velocity and note duration Do you mean that the thing should output the duration at the same time as the note-on, or the file should be readable in a text editor? no, i mean that i should be able to easily see and edit the duration and the velocity without having to think or do much work. see above.. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] jack_transport from CVS
HI I was interested this weekend to tryout [jack_transport] from externals/tb/jack_transport in the cvs repository. As there as no binary for OSX, it decided to embark on compiling the source, so I downloaded XCode 2.5 and the jack_transport package with a cvs client. There doesn't seem to be a ./configure file, only makefile. Is it missing something, or do I need to install additional libraries? I should point out that I have never built from source on osx, so I really don't have a clue what to do!! If someone has built this for OSx already that would be very helpful :-) or if someone could give me some helpful pointers that would be great. all the best * * * * * * Simon Mills :: Liquid Light :: E - [EMAIL PROTECTED] W - http://www.liquidlight.co.uk T - 00 44 (0)845 6 58 88 35 F - 00 44 (0)845 6 58 44 35 Confidentiality Notice: This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately and delete the message. Thank you. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] displaying a filename
Hi A combination of [symbol\ and [stripdir] should do it S On 6 Aug 2008, at 12:31, Atte André Jensen wrote: Hi I have an abstraction that has loaded a sample with openpanel. Is there a way to display this filename in the abstraction (for visual fedback), preferrably only the filename (without path)? Any pointers appreciated! -- peace, love harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] problems with pd extended (0.40.3)
i have the same problem too I've been using [expr~ ] as a workaround eg. [expr~ $v10.5] s On 6 Aug 2008, at 16:22, martin brinkmann wrote: hi! i'm sorry if this has been asked (and answered) before, but i have not found a solution yet. (in the list archive) ~ ~ (and maybe other signal operators from zexy) are not created. is there a workaround? vcf_hp2~ throws an iem_cot~... couldn't create, but only if not vcf_hp4~ (or some other iem-lib filters, i suppose) have been created before. bis denn! martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] New sssad.pd now in SVN repository - please test! [was: sssad slowness]
HI Frank, So in a nutshell, what is different about this? I got a bit lost following this thread :) best wishes ps. Hans - will this be included in the release of 0.40.3? On 27 Jul 2008, at 11:54, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote: Thanks a lot. This looks good in my quick test and also more simple and elegant than the dynamic patching (which I wasn't too happy with anyway). I'll do some more tests after work, but it seems now all is as with singleton and if it indeed is, I'd like to include your change. Okay, I commited this now with a bit of cosmetics and to include the fix reported by hard off regarding empty lists. New version also is attached for your convenience. Anyone using sssad.pd: Please test! Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ sssad.pd___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Fwd: finding the cause of clicks when using sssad WAS: saving state of a patch
I hope im not misunderstanding, but doesn't the s-abstraction way of using 'datastore' to change presets eliminate dropouts - Why is there a need for a ram disk? I mean is there a lag between hitting the giant message box and updating all the abstractions? I was inspired the other day by a Max discussion on the pattr object, which is used for state saving. This in turn can be used from arranging pieces to to creating very nice random instruments that flick between presets very quickly... Is this a problem for sssad at the moment? On 23 Jul 2008, at 15:24, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Jul 22, 2008, at 2:31 AM, Enrique Erne wrote: Phil Stone wrote: Hi Atte, Now that you're on your way with sssad, there's a nice trick you should know. If you find that loading a preset causes dropouts, consider using a ram disk to hold your presets during performance. This solved all my dropout problems, and it's easy to do (I can post a script for OS X if anyone wants it). The ramdisk thing is definitely handy, I just hope that sssad can be tweaked to work without causing dropouts. Any ideas what the cause is? .hc Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [residency_buffer~] missing from fftease lib
Hi Does anyone know the whereabouts of this, or if at all it was ported to Pd? Its in the objects list, but doesn't appear to be in the download for Pd. I know it references (max)msp buffers, but would i be a lot of effort to switch that to pd's tables? This one would be very handy many thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended PPC autobuild Jack OSX
Hi Hans et al. I tried the RC1 test build of the latest Pd-extended. Will the Jack problem be resolved in this version of do you know? many thanks for all the hard work everyone! On 25 May 2008, at 21:24, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yeah, there are some jack issues under investigation, so please test things once there is something new to test. :) .hc On May 22, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Si Mills wrote: I noticed the other day that when selecting to run in Jack mode (with Jack booted) the system becomes unusably sluggish. This happens in the PPC version of 0.40.3 -extended that I downloaded the other day from Autobuild and Jack osx 0.77. I haven't tried one of the latest builds. I'm adding this to the bug tracker thanks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd-extended PPC autobuild Jack OSX
I noticed the other day that when selecting to run in Jack mode (with Jack booted) the system becomes unusably sluggish. This happens in the PPC version of 0.40.3 -extended that I downloaded the other day from Autobuild and Jack osx 0.77. I haven't tried one of the latest builds. I'm adding this to the bug tracker thanks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Best PD+OS/Hardware combinations for low audio latency?
Have you tried running Pd using Jack osx and Jack mode? I can get latency down to 7ms without crackles - this is on a meager old g4 powerbook best On 1 Apr 2008, at 09:18, Tim Blechmann wrote: So far, in Windows: I tried setting the priority to Realtime in the Task Manager and setting the buffer size to smaller in the Control Panel settings for the Edirol soundcard, but could only get the delay in PD's audio settings down to 40 ms. Anything below that destroys the sound (in a bad way). that is a known issue ... pd is using pablio on osx and windo$, which is unable to achieve decent latencies ... the devel_ branch contained a workaround for that, not sure about the recent vanilla release ... I'll try the linux suggestions next... good idea, the pd's audio driver access on linux is not as broken as on other platforms ... t -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.klingt.org Silence is only frightening to people who are compulsively verbalizing. William S. Burroughs ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Best PD+OS/Hardware combinations for low audio latency?
7ms measured round-trip or setting in pd's audio dialog (which is merely a suggestion for the driver and iirc is completely ignored by the jack backend) well i set the buffer size in Jack prefs and let Pd follow suit. But either way its just better :) tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.klingt.org Who need fossil fuel when the sun ain't goin' nowhere Amiri Baraka ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Writing file to folder on OSX
HI I can't seem to write a file into a folder using [writesf~] So when I click the [open -bytes 3 /audio/foo.wav( message, presumably it should create a folder called audio with the file foo.wav in it? .But it doesn't do anything. Just doing [open -bytes 3 foo.wav( works fine and creates foo.wav in the same directory as the patch. AM I misunderstanding this, or is it a bug? (on OS x 10.5.1, Pd 0.40.3-extended) thanks S ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] fftease for macosx universal?
hi punchnik, you can find it here (its an attachment towards the bottom of the thread) http://puredata.hurleur.com/sujet-1280-fftease-39 use the original help files from the ppc package I guess this should be made available on the original FFTease page, though I'm not sure why it isn't...Maybe it fries your computer golden ;-) S On 3 Feb 2008, at 03:01, punchik punchik wrote: hello...do anybody have compiled fftease for macosx? i have the old fftease for ppc but it doesnt work here. where can i found it? thanks p. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] reverb for each grain
Sounds fun Are you using the [nqpoly4] object to make the granular engine? S On 30 Jan 2008, at 06:59, Kevin McCoy wrote: Not to mention, I hope you'll be showin' some clips of whatever you come up with... doing something like this is something I have had in mind for a while and I would love to hear the results you get! Are you thinking it can make the grain cloud more dimensional this way? That was the idea I had.. km On Jan 30, 2008 1:06 AM, hard off [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, as charles suggested, set up a few different reverbs of varying decay lengths, and send varying percentages of each grain to the different reverbs. also, reverb usually has a 'dampening' setting, which will dull the signal as it goes through, so another thing you can try is to mix in a lowpass or bandpass filter after every voice before it goes in to the reverb. if you alter the dry/wet ratio of each voice going into the filter, as well as altering the cutoff and q values for each filter it will make it sound similar to if each voice were going through a different reverb. ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://art.sewanee.edu/mccoy ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Memento, OSC-route Pd 0.40.3-extended
HI all Has something changed with OSCX or Memento since 0.39.3 extended? I was going through the Memento manual/5-Tut and in 0.40.3-extended I keep getting: OSC-route: invalid message pattern aFloat does not begin with / errors. OSC-route: invalid message pattern aSymbol does not begin with / etc. THis doesn't happen in 0.39.3 thanks in advance S ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-0.40.3-extended and Pd-0.39.3-extended on 10.5 Leopard
Hi Apple released 10.5.1 update today and it was hoped that it might solve this issue, but it doesn't seem to be any different. hopefully this will be rectified soon! thanks On 16 Nov 2007, at 13:07, bsoisoi wrote: Hey all, is anyone else having difficulties running either version of Pd- extended on OS X 10.5 Leopard? Whenever I hit the Help menu item, the whole program crashes. After this point, I am no longer able to save files, as the program will then crash upon save. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a leopard issue, has anyone had any luck getting around it? I've attached my crashlog. pdcrashlog.txt Thanks, ~Brandon___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] please test Pd-extended on debian-powerpc
Hi, Sorry this is on OSX ppc not Debian ppc :) S On 17 Oct 2007, at 15:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 16, 2007, at 4:44 AM, Si Mills wrote: Hi I've noted a couple of bugs: * FFT seems to be broke on PPC. I just get nasty crackles. (Pb G4 / 10.4.10) * [blosc~] doesn't instantiate - You have to physically add a '~' to the external in the library to fix it. * [freeverb~] produces no sound Hey, Could you try today's build and report back? http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-10-17/ .hc -- -- I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] please test Pd-extended on debian-powerpc
Hi Its in the bug sheet - I've added the details to the existing bugs. Hope this helps. Appreciate all the hard work S On 17 Oct 2007, at 22:22, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey, Could you post the model info an CPU info to the bug report? You can find this info under the Apple menu, then About This Mac, then click the More Info button. These fields are all useful: Model Name Model Identifier Processor Name Processor Speed And anything else you want to add. .hc On Oct 17, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Si Mills wrote: Hi, Sorry this is on OSX ppc not Debian ppc :) S On 17 Oct 2007, at 15:37, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: On Oct 16, 2007, at 4:44 AM, Si Mills wrote: Hi I've noted a couple of bugs: * FFT seems to be broke on PPC. I just get nasty crackles. (Pb G4 / 10.4.10) * [blosc~] doesn't instantiate - You have to physically add a '~' to the external in the library to fix it. * [freeverb~] produces no sound Hey, Could you try today's build and report back? http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-10-17/ .hc I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler -- -- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd-extended final release candidate - please test!
Hi I've noted a couple of bugs: * FFT seems to be broke on PPC. I just get nasty crackles. (Pb G4 / 10.4.10) * [blosc~] doesn't instantiate - You have to physically add a '~' to the external in the library to fix it. * [freeverb~] produces no sound thanks ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd-extended final release candidate - please test!
Honestly. Yep! On 16 Oct 2007, at 09:56, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Si Mills wrote: Hi * [blosc~] doesn't instantiate - You have to physically add a '~' to the external in the library to fix it. i would like to see you getting a physical grip on the tilde in the library... honestly: does it mean that you have to rename the file? mfga.dsr IOhannes ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] a general discussion about which software to learn: pd, max, both... or else?
I came to Pd from SuperCollider. SC is very powerful and can sound amazing. Its power lies in the fact it is a object orientated language - if you want 500 oscillators you can just change a variable, rather than having to patch it by hand. I found I could do algorithmic stuff very easily as the system lended itself to do this.. What it is not imo, is user friendly, which is why I picked up Pd. It became a headache when i wanted to use a gui to construct a sequencer of somethingthat in itself requires a different mind set to lay it out. Pd or Max is fairly intuitive in this regard and thus quicker to knock up new ideas. I guess I lost patience with it because i would reach a brick wall and not finish ideas which is very unconstructive. It was more- time head buried in documentation and not enough results..I felt life was too short!! (sorry). Also not coming from a programming background i guess didn't help/ I f there was a bridge for SC like the csound one, that would be very nice. Using Pd for data structure and using some of SCs ugens.. S On 15 Oct 2007, at 13:11, bbarros wrote: Take a look in SuperCollider. I used Max/MSP and CSound before, IMO you can do more with less effort once you learn this programming language (yes, it is a true programming language) Once you finished your patch it is also easy to modify and change comparing to max/msp. I like it. http://supercollider.sourceforge.net/ http://www.audiosynth.com/ 2007/10/15, Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hallo, David Schaffer hat gesagt: // David Schaffer wrote: I'm a stage/audiovisual technician willing to make a move into digital arts. I've been using pd for quite some time know and I was wondering if it would be useful for me to learn Max: according to you guys, which of the two programs seems to be most widely used, most popular, most promising in terms of future devellopements? Is it worth to be good in both or to become excellent (whatever that means...) in one of them? Is there another platform out there that would be worth giving a look (outside of the established stuff like pro tools, final cut, photoshop etc...) Thank you for your answers. I once took a workshop in Max/MSP and it was very boring: I already knew everything except that [osc~] is called [cycle~] in Max. The nice thing about both Max and Pd is that the programmes themselves are very simple tools. What you *really* learn when you learn one of them are things like algorithms, DSP techniques, composition theory, computer graphics, geometry etc. or more generally: ideas, and these aren't tied to a specific software or language. I think it's good for a Pd user to also know a bit about Max, but IMO you don't need ot buy a copy of it, instead you should have the documentation pdfs (Max/MSP reference etc.) on your disk and maybe even read them from time to time. Ciao -- Frank Barknecht _ __footils.org__ ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
