Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp 0.14.0

2013-10-01 Thread Alan Brooker
Thanks Tom! Going to compile... so good to get a new PDP in my set up


On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Tom Schouten t...@zwizwa.be wrote:

 Hi List,

 Here's an update to PDP:

 http://zwizwa.be/pd/pdp/pdp-0.**14.0.tar.gzhttp://zwizwa.be/pd/pdp/pdp-0.14.0.tar.gz

 Changes:


 0.14.0:
 Port ia32 MMX assembly code to GCC extensions (MMX support on
 amd64)
 Add V4L2 support to pdp_v4l (merge with pdp_v4l2)
 Distill system/zl (Zwizwa Lib) from PDP and libprim/PF code.


 The configure option --enable-mmx now uses GCC intrinsics which work on
 both 32 and 64 bit intel architectures.   The old 32-bit only ASM routines
 are still available as --enable-asm-mmx.

 If you find a problem, post it here or at p...@zwizwa.be for a quicker
 response.

 Darcs repo is at http://zwizwa.be/darcs/pdp/

 Enjoy!

 Tom


 ( Racketeers, be sure to check out some recent Pd DSP work in
 http://zwizwa.be/rai/ )



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Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?

2013-09-28 Thread Alan Brooker
Hi

Im sure there is something in the MTL abstractions:

http://puredata.info/Members/mtl/index_html


cant remember the name...sorry!


On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Pagano, Patrick
p...@digitalworlds.ufl.eduwrote:

 Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems
 with the license. It has great effects though

 Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A
 Asst. in Digital Art and Science
 Digital Worlds Institute
 University of Florida
 (352) 294-2020


 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com
 wrote:

  Hi pd list,
 
  Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in
  pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in
  pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have
  an alternative!
 
  Thanks
 
  Antonio
 
  --
  
  anto...@hellocatfood.com
  http://www.hellocatfood.com
  
 
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Re: [PD] My personal GEM preview inside a patch...

2013-06-24 Thread Alan Brooker
nice work!


2013/6/24 Philippe Boisnard philem...@mac.com


 Le 24 juin 2013 à 20:20, Cyrille Henry a écrit :

  i can see the discution, but where is the patch?
  and is it fast enough to be usable?
 
  cheers
  c
 
  Le 24/06/2013 19:31, Philippe Boisnard a écrit :
  Yes
 
  arnaud courcelles have made today with datastructures
  you can find this on codelab.fr
  on this thread
  http://codelab.fr/4343
 
 
  Le 24 juin 2013 à 18:25, Cyrille Henry a écrit :
 
  hello,
  it would really be useful to have an efficient pix_preview.
  did anyone try using data structure? would it be faster?
 
  i guess lluis pix_preview is the best option for now
 
  cheers
  c
 
 
  Le 23/06/2013 22:31, Olivier Baudu a écrit :
  I've received few messages asking me if it's a joke... :-°
 
  Well...
  It's a kind of joke because it is useless...
  (I redraw the GEM stream in hundred of 2x2 canvas)
 
  But it's not joke in the way that it really works on my laptop /
 Linux Mint DE / Pd-extended 0.43.4 / GEM 0.93 at 4 fps...
 
  Sorry if I've crashed your OS with my stuff...
 
  Cheers...
 
  01ivier
 
  Le 23.06.2013 17:33, Olivier Baudu a écrit :
  Hi list,
 
  I want to share with you a big victory for me... :-p
  I've succeeded in visualizing image/video GEM stream inside my patch
  (at 4 fps !!).
 
  Well...
  You can't really do anything else when the automatic mode is on...
 :-D
  ... but I'm so proud, you know.
 
  Patch attached.
  Screenshot here : http://codelab.fr/4343#p23267
 
  Cheers
 
  01ivier
 
 
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Re: [PD] PDP test release

2013-05-15 Thread Alan Brooker
./configure found m_pd.h now (I think)

checking m_pd.h usability... yes
checking m_pd.h presence... yes

but have this error message

#check if pd is installed. if this fails make install will stop here.
test -d /usr/local/lib/pd
install -d /usr/local/lib/pd/extra
install -m 755 pdp.pd_linux /usr/local/lib/pd/extra
install: cannot stat `pdp.pd_linux': No such file or directory
make: *** [install] Error 1


thanks again!

Alan


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Tom Schouten t...@zwizwa.be wrote:

 On 05/15/2013 05:18 PM, Alan Brooker wrote:

 Hi Tom

 Sorry to be a pain- but got his error @ sudo make install

  not a pain at all.  thanks for the report.




  #check if pd is installed. if this fails make install will stop here.
 test -d /usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/lib/**pd
 make: *** [install] Error 1

 I have Pd installed at usr/local/lib/pd (and also pd-extended
 usr/lib/pd-extended) already?


 as a quick fix, you could copy the m_pd.h to somewhere in your standard
 include path, i.e. to /usr/local/include



 these are the directories where configure looks for m_pd.h apart from the
 standard include path:

 $prefix/pd/src
 $prefix/src/pd/src
 ../src/
 /usr/local/include/pd/

 Where $prefix is what you give configure as:
 configure --prefix=...




 I wonder if there is a canonical way to do m_pd.h discovery these days.




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[PD] Gem High def out put (stills ect)

2013-04-11 Thread Alan Brooker
Hi

II am use Gem to create some 3d artworks I planning to have printed for
framing/postcards etc.- would be grateful for any advice on way to save
high quality/large images from the Gem window? Ways to achieve Anti
aliasing (is this only for Nvidia graphics?), smoothing of edges and such.

Thanks for the advice all, much appreciated.

Alan
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Re: [PD] Gem High def out put (stills ect)

2013-04-11 Thread Alan Brooker
Thanks everyone for the suggestions [polygon_smooth] helps much.  
09.SnapshotSaveHD looks like it could be what I need but it has me a bit 
stumped. I will try to connect it into my Gem scene but any tips would be 
welcome

Thanks again for the feedback!



On 11 Apr 2013, at 14:00, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:

 Le 11/04/2013 14:30, Alan Brooker a écrit :
 Hi
 II am use Gem to create some 3d artworks I planning to have printed for 
 framing/postcards etc.- would be grateful for any advice on way to save high 
 quality/large images from the Gem window? Ways to achieve Anti aliasing (is 
 this only for Nvidia graphics?), smoothing of edges and such.
 Thanks for the advice all, much appreciated.
 Alan
 
 
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 Have a look in examples section in Gem (from the help panel). There is 
 '02.advanced/09.SnapshotSaveHD.pd'.
 There is no Anti aliasing, but after you can reduce the size of the picture 
 with a software like Gimp to get something smooth.
 Or it is possible to use supersampling anti aliasing with two or more 
 framebuffer, but you need a good graphic card for that.
 Hope '09.SnapshotSaveHD.pd' will work for you.
 ++
 
 Jack
 
 
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Re: [PD] can't load gridflow 9.13 on Mountain Lion?

2013-03-01 Thread Alan Brooker
Hi


Mathieu (main dev of Gridflow) isnt on the pd-list anymore- try
signing up for the Gridflow mailing list to post your question

http://lists.artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/gridflow-dev


AFAIK no work has been done on Gridflow since 2011 and it certainly
isn't fully compatible with the latest Pd-extended-hopefully something
is in the works soon.

Best


On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com wrote:

 Hi all—I've been trying to install Gridflow, but it doesn't work entirely 
 yet.  I added the /Library/Pd/gridflow and /Library/Pd/gridflow/abstractions 
 paths but when I try to (for instance) make a #redim object, I get:

 #redim
 ... couldn't create
 /Library/Pd/gridflow/gridflow.pd_darwin: 
 dlopen(/Library/Pd/gridflow/gridflow.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: 
 @executable_path/../../lib/libpng12.0.dylib
   Referenced from: /Library/Pd/gridflow/gridflow.pd_darwin
   Reason: image not found
 [import]: can't load library in 'gridflow'

 and if I try to make (for instance) a #many object, I get a whole ton of 
 ...couldn't creates but without further information.

 Am I doing something wrong?
 —t3db0t
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Re: [PD] Pure Data/Arduino course webpage

2012-05-17 Thread Alan Brooker
thanks for the great resource

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:51 PM, olsen raumkundschaf...@hasa-labs.orgwrote:

 Nice stuff - thanks for sharing John!


 On 05/14/2012 02:32 PM, John Harrison wrote:

 I thought it might be interesting and maybe even helpful if I shared the
 webpage for the Pure Data/Arduino audio/video
 course I just finished teaching. This was a one-semester
 undergraduate-level course I taught at Wichita State
 University. Most students were electrical/computer engineering students
 that had minimal applied experience with
 programming and circuitry before signing up for the course.

 Main course page:
 http://cratel.wichita.edu/**blogs/ee577aspring2012/http://cratel.wichita.edu/blogs/ee577aspring2012/

 Student final projects with explanatory video and code:
 http://cratel.wichita.edu/**blogs/ee577aspring2012/**
 category/final-project-report-**video/http://cratel.wichita.edu/blogs/ee577aspring2012/category/final-project-report-video/

 The web page for the course includes all assignments, my notes, schedule
 and a forum where students asked questions,
 shared cool projects they found, etc.

 One thing I wrote as an example for the students in the class was a color
 tracker which could track primary colors. I
 thought I saw a conversation on the list earlier were somebody was
 writing an external for color tracking, but at least
 primary colors can all be tracked in Gem. Maybe it's obvious but in case
 it's not:
 http://cratel.wichita.edu/**blogs/ee577aspring2012/forum2/**
 code-group3/pd-patches-forum4/**2-color-trackers-thread16/http://cratel.wichita.edu/blogs/ee577aspring2012/forum2/code-group3/pd-patches-forum4/2-color-trackers-thread16/

 -John
 --
 John Harrison 
 http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~**harrisonhttp://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison


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Re: [PD] [import] and libraries Pd ext

2012-04-29 Thread Alan Brooker
Hi Hans

Sorry should have clarified- rather it is the dropping of start up prefs
from Pd-extended as per below-- is there a page on the main website to
refer to ?




On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at
 wrote:


 I just changed up the new single preference page for Pd-extended 0.43,
 hopefully its for the better.  First off, there is no more Startup prefs,
 which allowed you to globally load libraries.  Now, use [import] in your
 patch to load libraries.  The Startup flags and Real-time scheduling
 are now added to the new preference panel.

 The OK and Apply buttons only apply the settings for the current session
 of Pd.  In order to save them for the next time you start Pd, there is the
 Save All Settings button.  But now that I look at that, the Save All
 Settings button might actually be redundant, and OK actually saves
 everything...

 Setting global paths should no longer be used for externals, instead you
 should use the standard install locations for your OS:
 http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files

 Or you can set the path in your patch.  Either use the new [path] object
 or [declare -path] to set a relative path in your patch.


On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Hey Alan,

 I'm not sure I know the change that you are speaking of.  [import] is the
 same since at least 0.41.  And yes, if a library is either included in
 Pd-extended or in the standard install folder, then [import] is all that is
 needed to load the library.

 .hc

 On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:03 AM, Alan Brooker wrote:

 Hi List,


 Please excuse me but is there a page on the  puredata.info that details
 the change to the new way of loading libraries via the [import] and
 [declare] objects?  I have had small bits of feedback and new
 users believe their libraries are not loading when the use of [import] is
 all that is needed? I'm sure I saw something written up about this but cant
 find it to reference to others

 Thanks

 Alan
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[PD] [import] and libraries Pd ext

2012-04-28 Thread Alan Brooker
Hi List,


Please excuse me but is there a page on the  puredata.info that details the
change to the new way of loading libraries via the [import] and [declare]
objects?  I have had small bits of feedback and new
users believe their libraries are not loading when the use of [import] is
all that is needed? I'm sure I saw something written up about this but cant
find it to reference to others

Thanks

Alan
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Re: [PD] Hello PD List

2012-03-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
also check out


http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/

http://www.pd-tutorial.com/

...welcome to the list!


On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi,
  You can have a look at the Pd manual.  Open Pd, then click Help and
 then Browser (or the
 shortcut ctrl-b).  The look in Pure Data-1.manual and it will have a link
 to the index from which
 you can read the various chapters.
  Also have a look at 2.control.examples and got through the whole set of
 tutorials.  That should give
 you a good feel for how to build Pd patches and edit/manipulate objects on a
 canvas.

 Finally have a look at 3.audio.examples.  There are way too many tutorials
 to go through in one sitting,
 but it will at least give you an idea of what can be accomplished using the
 basic signal objects in Pd.

 Hope that helps,
 Jonathan

 
 From: speed wolf speedw...@gmail.com
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:41 PM
 Subject: [PD] Hello PD List

 Hi,

 This is my first post here.

 I'm very new to PD and am looking for some good beginners tutorials.
 I'm not a stranger to coding having been a web developer for a decade
 or so but I'm not used to visual programming environments and am
 finding it a little counter intuitive. Usually I do generative stuff
 with DVDs but I'm moving into a much more interactive space at the
 moment and need to learn some new skills so if anyone could offer a
 few pointers I'd be extremely grateful.

 You can look at some of my stuff here if the fancy takes you -
 http://www.petehaughie.com/

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[PD] New puredata.info styled online now!!

2012-03-21 Thread ALAN BROOKER
damn the Recent Changes section has been spamo -ed - selling
'antipsychotic' drugs and such


(   hhhmmm maybe I should try that out :S  )

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:27 PM, ALAN BROOKER
alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:
 +1

 thanks Marco...nice job!

 On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hey Marco

 Though late, I still want to say that the new look is fresh. I like it.
 Nice Work!

 Roman



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Re: [PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?

2012-03-19 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Claude

Hey much thanks for the patch- lovely stuff- Im going to hack away and
learn a few things---can I ask where did you get the frag shader from?
Thanks again
On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Pagano, Patrick
p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:
 That is really nice Claude.


 -Original Message-
 From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of 
 Claude Heiland-Allen
 Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:02 AM
 To: pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?

 On 18/03/12 14:13, ALAN BROOKER wrote:
 Does anyone know of any examples of using Lua with Gem in anyway?

 Attached example uses a custom particle system in Lua that also keeps track 
 of various parameters for a GLSL shader.

 Rather undocumented/hacky and might not work on any machine but mine...
 usual NO WARRANTY warning goes here...

 If you want to see how it should look after it fails to run on your machine:
 http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/v/gears/2012-01-14_gear_chain_v1.ogv
 (36MB)


 Claude

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[PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?

2012-03-18 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi List,


Does anyone know of any examples of using Lua with Gem in anyway? I'm
interested in exploring the potential in using these two together-any
start tips most welcome.

Thanks

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Re: [PD] list etiquette

2012-03-11 Thread ALAN BROOKER

 fuck no!

 Pd expands boundaries of what is music and art.  Why expect any
 boundaries on the list?  The same norm you're expecting might not be
 shared by other people who use the list too.

Just wish to clarify what I think is being discussed here which is not
necessary the language but  how the language is used to against others
in an abusive way. For instance Mr.Y makes an announcement and the
first reply from Mr. X is  fuck off. Or  Mrs. V posts something to
the list where the subject singles out another subscriber in a
disparaging way and has nothing to do with Pd at all.  This isn't
heated debate.

The norms I am expecting  are the basics of just being civil,  to act
in the ways described above in person would be anti-social behaviour .


 I don't care for some things said on the list, but all you can really
 do is try to convince other people to see things your way.

yes, your right here, that is all that can be done.

Free thought and expression on the list takes president , but when
someone is singled out unfairly or having abuse thrown at them it is
something I feel the need to complain about.

..or maybe I'm just troll fodder :/

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Re: [PD] Tobacco (was: Web Netiquette (was: a book about libpd))

2012-03-09 Thread ALAN BROOKER
 But the problem with cigarettes is smoking them. The companies selling them
 created the lifestyle and encouraged the craving. Basically everybody fell
 for that.

Yeah one of the biggest cons going. As an ex smoker I can say the
hardest thing for me is missing smoking itself.  If one never took up
the habit to start with, then the feeling of 'missing being able to
smoke' would never be felt. It's not the craving per se but missing
being able to take  5 minutes out here and there  to have cigarette,
that stays with you for a while.

But saying that it's not that bad..where's my hooka?





On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 Le 2012-03-09 à 14:26:00, Py Fave a écrit :

 the problem with cigarettes is being able to make your own.


 The problem with cigarettes is smoking them. If it were not a problem, then
 the problem would be to grow them, because if you merely roll them, then
 you're still buying Drum tobacco and Riz Lacroix (RizLa+) paper from the
 same company as Gauloises, Gitanes and JPS, for example, which are all
 readymade, if that's the problem you have with them.

 But the problem with cigarettes is smoking them. The companies selling them
 created the lifestyle and encouraged the craving. Basically everybody fell
 for that.

 An association of ninety thousand smokers sues tobacco companies over health
 issues for 23 billion of $ right now. They deposited their request in 1999,
 and one should wonder why it took that long for the courts to accept
 launching the trial. In the end, the Cour Supérieure du Québec will start
 hearing them now. This makes it the largest anti-tobacco trial ever in
 Canada.

 http://www.ledevoir.com/societe/justice/344619/le-megaproces-du-tabac
 http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/201203/08/01-4503809-recours-collectif-des-victimes-du-tabac-le-proces-debute-13-ans-plus-tard.php

 (But this seems extremely underreported in canadian english-language
 media... you may only guess why that is.)

 Anyway... what you say has nothing to do with Julian's problem with
 cigarettes, and neither does what I'm saying now.

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Re: [PD] Is there a way to block/filter Mathieu ?

2012-03-09 Thread ALAN BROOKER
 Mathieu's comments are usually made in the spirit of inquiry and
debate- I enjoy reading them as much as all the other posts here, so I
 (respectfully) disagree with your comments have said about him.

Previously I have filtered people from pd-list after complaining about
them to admin (for being abusive) and this is something I have since
regretted

Overall, I think the tone of late has become too belligerent, lets get
some good will together.

Ta
Alan

2012/3/9 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com:
 Sorry, I overlooked that you wanted to have the daily digest filtered. I
 guess the answer is no :)

 András

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Re: [PD] Making Musical Apps: a book about libpd

2012-03-08 Thread ALAN BROOKER
the f bomb...really? telling the guy to f*ck off..what? really ?

Unacceptable.


On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think that's a bit uncalled for. It's not spam, the book is entirely
 relevant to the PD community since it centres on libpd, and the target
 audience for the book is very much similar to the subscriber base for
 this list.

 I don't see how that would be any different than advertising a concert
 for which you would have to pay an entrance fee of a workshop where
 you would need to pay to attend.

 - martin


 On 8 March 2012 22:40, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Look, I'm sorry.  I've attempted to ignore this...

 Fuck off.

 Spam merchant.

 There, said/done it.

 Julian




 On 8 March 2012 20:17, Shawn Wallace swall...@oreilly.com wrote:

 Hi all:

 Peter Kirn over at createdigitalmusic.com has a great review, interview
 and excerpt of the new O'Reilly book Making Musical Apps by Peter
 Brinkmann:


  http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/03/pd-everywhere-free-libpd-gets-a-new-site-new-book-on-making-mobile-music-apps/

 I've always thought that Pure Data on mobile devices (with the touchscreen
 and all the sensors) was a killer app.

 --Shawn

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Re: [PD] Externals and Libiraries

2012-03-04 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Barry

Have you tried looking at the [import] and [path] objects? This is the
way Externals and Libraries are loaded up in Pd now...

so for instance if you wish to use [binflie] part of the mrpeach
library in your patch:  you would firstly create a [import mrpeach]
object to load the library-  and then create [binfile] object.

I'm a bit fuzzy on [path] though-need to look at the help files more

Hope this is clear and sorry if you know this already and the problem
is something else altogether!

Best

On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:03 AM,  barrydil...@eircom.net wrote:
 Hello PD List,
 I'm kind of new here, been luHi Barryrking for a while, though. I having a 
 wee bit if difficulty gettting PD to start up correctly. I have included part 
 of the verbose listing of the strar up process, as you can see none of the 
 external file and libs are being loades in to PD. If I run the Audio and 
 Midi test script, things seem ok. I'm using PD on a Sony laptop running 
 Windows. My question is Can anyone offer any wee bit of advice as to how I 
 might solve this problem. Thanks.

 Barry

 [import] $Revision: 1.2 $
        [import] is still in development, the interface could change!
        compiled against Pd version 0.42.5
 input channels = 2, output channels = 2
 input device 4, channels 2
 output device 4, channels 2
 framesperbuf 64, nbufs 41
 ... opened OK.
 tried .\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Windows\\Fonts\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\cyclone\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\creb\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\cxc\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\iemlib\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\list-abs\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\mapping\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\markex\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\maxlib\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\memento\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\mjlib\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\motex\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\oscx\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pddp\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pdogg\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pixeltango\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pmpd\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\rradical\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\sigpack\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\smlib\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\toxy\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\unauthorized\\libdir.m_i386 and 
 failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pan\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\hcs\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\jmmmp\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\ext13\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\ggee\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\flib\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\ekext\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\flatspace\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\externals\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\externals\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Common Files\\Pd\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Users\\nptebook\\Application Data\\Pd\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\libdir.m_i386 and failed
 tried .\\libdir.dll and failed
 tried C:\\Windows\\Fonts\\libdir.dll and failed

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[PD] Gem/Gridflow with PdDriod Party ...possible?

2012-03-01 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi list

I've been playing around with the very excellent PdDriod Party and I
was thinking if there was a way to have visuals incorpertated into the
patchs with Gem/Gridflow? I am may tryout impeding libpd into a
processing andriod sketch  but wanted to just enquire about
Gem/Gridflow :]

Thanks all

Alan

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Re: [PD] Gem/Gridflow with PdDriod Party ...possible?

2012-03-01 Thread ALAN BROOKER
thanks both  curious to know what is possible -will check out that tutorial
Cheers

On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I've seen some signs of Android work in gridflow, plus dmotd was working on
 porting Gem to OpenGL ES, which would allow it to run on the minimum GPUs in
 phones.

 .hc

 On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:06 AM, berenger recoules wrote:

 Hi Alan

 from my knowledge it's not possible.

 Concerning the processing side of thins there is a library for processing
 useable on linux and mac, that uses Jack. It works great. They are working
 on making an android processing library. But right now you can't use libpd
 in processing to create apk from the processing IDE.

 Your best bet for now is eclipse+android sdk+libpd+processing, and there is
 a tutorial right here
 http://noisepages.com/groups/pd-everywhere/forum/topic/libpd-processing-android-tutorial/

 Cheers

 Bérenger





 2012/3/1 ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com

 Hi list

 I've been playing around with the very excellent PdDriod Party and I
 was thinking if there was a way to have visuals incorpertated into the
 patchs with Gem/Gridflow? I am may tryout impeding libpd into a
 processing andriod sketch  but wanted to just enquire about
 Gem/Gridflow :]

 Thanks all

 Alan

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] libpd, the book!

2012-02-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
wow...should come to the Uk soon?---now I have an excuse to buy an
Andriod phone :]

On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Jamie Bullock ja...@postlude.co.uk wrote:

 Congratulations Peter. Just pre-ordered my copy!

 best,

 Jamie


 On 24 Feb 2012, at 01:42, Peter Brinkmann wrote:

 Hi,
 I'm happy to announce the release of my book on mobile audio
 development with libpd:
 http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920022503.do

 The ebook version is available now; printed copies will be available
 from amazon.com next week.
 Cheers,
     Peter

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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- feedback appreciated

2012-02-09 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi


Im getting an error  at ./configure claiming not tcl lib has been found:


checking tcl.h usability... no
checking tcl.h presence... no
checking for tcl.h... no
checking tcl8.7/tcl.h usability... no
checking tcl8.7/tcl.h presence... no
checking for tcl8.7/tcl.h... no
checking tcl8.6/tcl.h usability... no
checking tcl8.6/tcl.h presence... no
checking for tcl8.6/tcl.h... no
checking tcl8.5/tcl.h usability... no
checking tcl8.5/tcl.h presence... no
checking for tcl8.5/tcl.h... no
checking tcl8.4/tcl.h usability... no
checking tcl8.4/tcl.h presence... no
checking for tcl8.4/tcl.h... no
checking for tcl8.4/tcl.h... (cached) no
checking tcl8.3/tcl.h usability... no
checking tcl8.3/tcl.h presence... no
checking for tcl8.3/tcl.h... no
checking tcl8.2/tcl.h usability... no
checking tcl8.2/tcl.h presence... no
checking for tcl8.2/tcl.h... no
no tcl header found
bolding trying without...
checking for main in -ltcl85... no
checking for main in -ltcl8.5... no
checking for main in -ltcl84... no
checking for main in -ltcl8.4... no
checking for main in -ltcl8.3... no
checking for main in -ltcl8.2... no
checking for main in -ltcl8.0... no
no tcl library found


but I do have tcl/wish installed:

update-alternatives --config wishThere is only one alternative in link
group wish: /usr/bin/wish8.5

Any  advice would be appreciated

Ab

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
 Fellow pd enthusiasts and devs,

 Apart from a couple of fixes of bugs that surfaced after we implemented
 infinite undo last month, as of this evening pd-l2ork has added another
 important feature: moving gop-ed objects via tag. This means that even a
 10-point array will now be moved via gui with a single command with
 minimal changes to the core pd code, rather than redrawing the entire array
 every time the array is moved. Same goes for GOP objects and scalars.
 Needless to mention, this is the first time that my netbook allows me to
 move large arrays on screen as if they were simple objects :-)

 If interested, check out the git at https://github.com/pd-l2ork

 x86-64 and i386 builds coming up soon... I am uploading 64-bit builds as I
 type this, i386 should be up sometime tomorrow. In the meantime you can
 search older builds via L2Ork's website at
 http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56...

 Enjoy!

 Best wishes,

 --
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 Composition, Music Technology
 Director, DISIS Interactive Sound  Intermedia Studio
 Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra
 Assistant Director, CCTAD
 Virginia Tech
 Department of Music
 Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240
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Re: [PD] run commandline from within pd

2012-02-06 Thread ALAN BROOKER
perhaps try [shell] object (ggee lib I think)

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM, James Mckernon jmcker...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 Does anyone know if there is a simple way to run an outside command from
 inside pure data on linux? I'd really like it if I could just click a button
 from within pd to run 'xset -r' and 'xset r' to turn keyboard repeat off and
 on again respectively.

 Thanks!
 James

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Re: [PD] install Pd on ubuntu without internet; video-playback codec windows?

2011-12-04 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi


If you really can not get internet access try using pure:dyne live cd

http://puredyne.org/index.html

it has pd +extras +all dependencies all ready to go on one cd [or at least
that what is is working towards]. You put the cd in your drive and just
re-boot, comes with loads of other stuff too, v handy distro

Of course you need to download and then burn it to a disk it to begin with,
 so you may need to burrow a friend's pc  internet connection to do this

best

Ab


On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Kaj Ailomaa ailo...@gmail.com wrote:

  Why not plug it into the internet?

 You'll need to install at least tk8.5 and tcllib (or is it tvl8.5?)
 Linux without internet is pretty crippled when you're trying to install
 software.


 On 12/04/2011 01:36 AM, Johnny Mauser wrote:

 Dear list!

 i am trying to install pd-extended 0.42.5 on ubuntu 10.04 and am a total
 beginner with any linux. I was so happy to manage to install ubuntu, but
 now the Package Installer asks for more and more dependencies. My machine
 is not allowed to connect to internet, and i go crazy copying all the
 dependencies via usb stick from this internet-pc to performance-pc! How to
 easy-install Pd?

 I am trying linux, 'cause my patch has problems playing multible videos on
 windows. I use foto-jpeg decoded videos with quicktime for window, because
 i found that quicktime reads the framenumber correct instead of direct
 show. live-cam input is quite stable, but windows freezes from time to time
 with playback of 5 videos. I have quite a fast machine and an ssd drive
 which should be able to do the task i thought.

 So:
 which video format works well with windows?
 how do i get pd-extended on linux working?

 please exuse my confusion, too much operating system problems today; too
 less Pd...

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] New album

2011-10-22 Thread ALAN BROOKER
good stuff 3

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:10 PM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote:

 sounds fantastic.  has a much more 'compositional' sense than stuff i
 usually hear.

 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Jerod Sommerfeldt 
 sommerfeldt.je...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello Pd community,

 I'd like to take the opportunity to share a link to my new album.  All
 sounds were created and executed in Pd, as well as RTcmix.  It's free, ready
 for download and hopefully your listening pleasure!

 Please enjoy!

 http://www.petcord.com/releases/pc2011-15-jerod-sommerfeldt-pareidolia/

 My best,

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Re: [PD] OT: CSound for Live

2011-10-17 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi

Good times if your an Live user, there's Max for Live too-  Live is a
nice piece of software-used it a few years ago briefly and some friends use
it.

Not too sure how csound will be implemented in Live but obviously there's
csound for Pd ...and there's the thing...Pd offers the same plus more,  as
you know one could make there 'own' Live type environment from scratch with
Pd with some effort. In fact did Live start out as just a big Max patch for
sale?


That is why dispite the fact I think's it's a nice/effective enviroment for
those that choose to use it, but for me it's unconvincing when compared to
what you can get from Pd.

Just my thoughts! :)

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote:

 best comment ever :)

 M




 On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Csound will never die.

 .hc

 On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

 any thought about this?


 http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in-ableton-with-or-without-any-coding/



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 Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher
 ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing)
 The University of Edinburgh, UK
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 Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com
 Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com |
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Re: [PD] That Old No Sound Problem...

2011-10-17 Thread ALAN BROOKER
working with with OSS or Alsa?



On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:26 PM, forrest curo treegest...@gmail.comwrote:

 Please excuse this question; it must come up all the time (?!) but I am one
 of those many people who don't get any sound from the test patch.
 -
 On linux... Jack is running; ChucK works... and pd comes out:

 device listing not implemented for jack yet

 no midi input devices found
 no midi output devices found

 in the Pd window.
 --
 Jack  pd are both set to sample rate of 48000.
 --

 In the terminal, I have:

 priority 6 scheduling enabled.
 priority 8 scheduling enabled.
 jack_client_new: deprecated
 Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory
 Cannot connect to server socket
 jack server is not running or cannot be started.


 So please, somebody-- What's up with this? And what to do about it? (!)


 Forrest Curo
 (San Diego)

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Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-14 Thread ALAN BROOKER
h

looked at this briefly there is video4jack I have never tried it

http://www.piksel.org/videojack

but it sounds similiar to syphon (I think?) I dont think there are any gem
objectswould be interesting to see it work...any thoughts?



On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi list

 1. what would be the equivalent in linux let's say ubuntu ? it's a  frame
 server implementation?
 any way to redirect gem output ?

 2. is it possible to output  opengl data for recording and replay?





 2011/10/11 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu

  This is really awesome it works

 pp

 From: Patrick Pagano p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu
 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:08:56 +
 To: vade dokt...@mac.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon

  Hey Vade
 I REALLY want to test this out
 Can you help me get it going?

 pp

 From: vade dokt...@mac.com
 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:13:01 -0400
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon

  http://i.imgur.com/8Fxut.png

 http://code.google.com/p/syphon-implementations/source/detail?r=125

 Currently, I am not reading in a pix_texture or the active GEM texture to
 publish, I am simply reading the screen, but its a useful feature to capture
 the entire scene as rendered so far (you can control what it captures by
 adjusting the gemhead layer ordering).  Nor have I made a 'client' version
 that outputs a received texture from another app, but now that Hans
 Christoph helped me sort my XCode issues, I suspect with some help we can
 have a fully working Syphon implementation for GEM quickly enough.

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Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!

2011-10-14 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Actually I think there might be a pdp object look @ video piping
http://www.piksel.no/pwiki/VideoPiping

On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:02 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.comwrote:

 h

 looked at this briefly there is video4jack I have never tried it

 http://www.piksel.org/videojack

 but it sounds similiar to syphon (I think?) I dont think there are any gem
 objectswould be interesting to see it work...any thoughts?



 On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi list

 1. what would be the equivalent in linux let's say ubuntu ? it's a  frame
 server implementation?
 any way to redirect gem output ?

 2. is it possible to output  opengl data for recording and replay?





 2011/10/11 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu

  This is really awesome it works

 pp

 From: Patrick Pagano p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu
 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:08:56 +
 To: vade dokt...@mac.com
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon

  Hey Vade
 I REALLY want to test this out
 Can you help me get it going?

 pp

 From: vade dokt...@mac.com
 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:13:01 -0400
 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at
 Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon

  http://i.imgur.com/8Fxut.png

 http://code.google.com/p/syphon-implementations/source/detail?r=125

 Currently, I am not reading in a pix_texture or the active GEM texture to
 publish, I am simply reading the screen, but its a useful feature to capture
 the entire scene as rendered so far (you can control what it captures by
 adjusting the gemhead layer ordering).  Nor have I made a 'client' version
 that outputs a received texture from another app, but now that Hans
 Christoph helped me sort my XCode issues, I suspect with some help we can
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Re: [PD] pidip pdp_vloopback error

2011-09-26 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi

One thing that always caught me out was loading the pidip binary before Gem
or PDP,

go to mediapreferencesstart up

and make sure Gem  PDP are loaded on the list first before pidip

hope this makes sense

best

Al

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 hello,

 i think i have problems in pidip library after compile pd-extended in
 ubuntu-11.04 64bits.

 PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.6
 /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux:
 /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol:
 pdp_vloopback_setup
 pidip: can't load library

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[PD] Steel Construction Event on puredata.info (??)

2011-09-23 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi List

Saw this on the events section of the front page http://puredata.info:


 China (Guangzhou) International Exhibition for Steel Construction  Metal
Building Materials 2012


Interesting, but not sure what it has to do with Pd- maybe spam?
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Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.43 windows 7 installation

2011-09-07 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Hans,

Thanks for the help with this but I now get the same error message except it
now says 'libstd++-6.dll is missing...'


Im downloading from here BTW

http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest

Thanks again
On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 By the way, I added libpthread-2.dll and libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll to Pd-extended
 0.43, please try it again and see if it works now.

 http://pure-data.svn.**sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-**
 data?view=revisionrevision=**15285http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionrevision=15285


 .hc



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  -static-libstdc++ is not in gcc in Ubuntu 10.10 (« gcc version 4.4.5
 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-14ubuntu5) »)

 Is it a MinGW-only feature ?


 I don't think so

 $ gcc -v
 Using built-in specs.
 COLLECT_GCC=C:\MinGW\bin\gcc.**exe
 COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=c:/mingw/**bin/../libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.**
 5.2/lto-wrapper.exe
 Target: mingw32
 Configured with: ../gcc-4.5.2/configure --enable-languages=c,c++,ada,**
 fortran,obj
 c,obj-c++ --disable-sjlj-exceptions --with-dwarf2 --enable-shared
 --enable-libgo
 mp --disable-win32-registry --enable-libstdcxx-debug
 --enable-version-specific-r
 untime-libs --disable-werror --build=mingw32 --prefix=/mingw
 Thread model: win32
 gcc version 4.5.2 (GCC)

  too, if I'm not mistaken. E.g. could it solve the libstdc++ problem
 that
 we were having with Gem, GridFlow, ATI drivers, and perhaps some other

 drivers or libs ?


 what problem?


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[PD] pd-extended 0.43 windows 7 installation

2011-09-04 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi List

Sony Vaio,  intel i3-370 2.4
Im trying to install pd-extended 0.43 on windows 7 on a new machine, however
when I run the application I get the following error

*The program can't start because libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll is missing from you
computer.
Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.*


I thought it could be because I didnt have mingw installed (GNU Compiler
Collection)- but installing it doesn't solve the issue? If any one has any
advice on reolsing this and running PD would be grateful :0

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Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.43 windows 7 installation

2011-09-04 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Patrice,

Thanks ,
I got this from the 04/09 nightly builds file:
 Pd-0.43.1-extended-windowsxp-i386

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.frwrote:

 Hello,
  where did you get pd-extended installation from?

 adding -static-libgcc to CFLAGS in win32 build farm should resolve this
 problem.

 - ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com a écrit :

  Hi List
 
 
  Sony Vaio, intel i3-370 2.4
  Im trying to install pd-extended 0.43 on windows 7 on a new machine,
  however when I run the application I get the following error
 
  The program can't start because libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll is missing from you
  computer.
  Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.
 
 
  I thought it could be because I didnt have mingw installed (GNU
  Compiler Collection)- but installing it doesn't solve the issue? If
  any one has any advice on reolsing this and running PD would be
  grateful :0
 
 
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Re: [PD] Balloon Project

2011-08-31 Thread ALAN BROOKER
3 cool!

On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here's documentation of a small project using balloons, a kinect, and PD:
 http://danomatika.com/blog/balloon-project/
 
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1

2011-08-28 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Iohannes, cheers for the bug fix!

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Pagano, Patrick
p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote:
 Is there a how-to for compiling GEM on OSX?
 I really want to get started with frei0r and freeframe

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[PD] Segmentation fault Gem 0.93 pix_delay, pix_motionblur, pix_colormatrix, pix_frei0r

2011-08-27 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi,

Kubuntu (Maverick) linux, PD 0.43 with new Gem 0.93



Im having issues with the pix objects that I believe specifically
relate to video files ( such as pix_delay, pix_motionblur,
pix_colormatrix, pix_frei0r)

I can create the objects in the canvas, but when I click to open a
help file, PD crashes and I get the message below in the terminal

load plugins 'film' in '/home/alanb/pd-externals/Gem/'
pattern : /home/alanb/pd-externals/Gem/gem_film*.so
dylib loading file '/home/alanb/pd-externals/Gem/gem_filmMPEG3.so'!
dylib loading file '/home/alanb/pd-externals/Gem/gem_filmQT4L.so'!
Segmentation fault


The Gem help patches that relate to pics such as jpg etc are fine.
[pix_movie] and [pix_film] help patches come up but the auto play
doesn't not work- using a number box to move the frames works however
(if is was to send a metro then it would play fine) but not the auto
play.

Have these issues been replicated with anyone else or any advice to
resolve ? Thanks all -appreciate any comments and the continued hard
work on Gem  Pd.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0

2011-08-26 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Thanks for all the hard work on this!

2011/8/26 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at:
 after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem
 0.93 has been released today.

 large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a
 better experience!


 binaries are available for w32 (installer  zip), for the brave and
 adventurous there is the source code.
 binaries for OSX and not available yet, but we hope to get them online
 soonish.

 grab it while it's hot: http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.93.0

 alternatively you can get the files from
 https://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem


 highlights
 ==

 Objects
 ---
 frei0r video plugins support

 - [mesh], [surface3d],...
 - [separator] now takes arguments to define which stacks to push/pop

 documentation
 -
 - numerous bigfixes and improvements

 extra
 -
 - [pix_fiducialtrack] is no more part of Gem (but comes bundled with Gem)
 - [pix_artoolkit] fiducial tracking using ARToolKit
 - [pix_drum], [pix_mano]: Jaime Olivier's analysis objects!


 plugins
 ---
 image acquisition is now factored out into plugins
 this means that you can e.g. easily add new image acquisition methods to
 the existing [pix_video], [pix_film] and [pix_image] objects

 - still image loading/saving now uses plugins on all platforms
 on w32 you can now use ImageMagick and/or QuickTime for loading/saving
 images, which greatly increases the number of supported formats.
 you now get programmatic feedback on image loading success...

 - video acquisition now uses plugins on all platforms
 uniform way to get or set properties/attributes/controls, like hue,
 saturation, shutter-speed, pan,...
  working DV support (on linux)
  V4L also works with newer kernels (that dropped v4l)
  support for IIDC
  support for industrial grade GigE cameras using 3rd party libraries
 such as PYLON, Halcon or AVT's PvAPI
  experimental UNICAP support

 - film acquisition now uses plugins on all platforms (you could use
 gmerlin on w32 or osx...)

 - recording (film output) now uses plugins on all platforms
  support for V4L2 (and V4L) loopback devices, in order to generate a
 fake live video from your Gem window - use itfor recording, streaming,...

 settings
 
 global  local settings files to modify the overall behaviour of Gem
 you don't like Gem's default framerate, windowsize, font, texture
 mode,...? change it once and for all

 internals
 -
 - API: this is the first Gem with a public API: a selection of headers
 that you can use to write your own Gem-plugins
 build-system

 - build system: completely switched to a proper autotools

 - openGL: updated bundled GLEW

 - source organization: re-organized the entire source tree for hopefully
 better maintainability


 lowlights
 =
 i need an OSX developer willing to spend some time in getting image
 acquisition and windowing to work on OSX=10.6 (x86_64)


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Re: [PD] arrowheads on cords plugin

2011-08-26 Thread ALAN BROOKER
cool... like this
...thanks Hans!
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 Thanks for the bug report.  This version should fix that:


 .hc
 On Aug 16, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Daniel Roviriego wrote:

 forgot to mention the arrowheads are working, besides the error message:

 Using Ubuntu 10.10. Tcl version 8.5.8-2build1 and tk version 8.5.8-1

 cheers

 2011/8/16 Daniel Roviriego daniferna...@gmail.com

 Hi Hans..

 Iḿ getting this error trying to use the plugin

 invalid command name .gfxstub8566bd8.c
 invalid command name .gfxstub8566bd8.c
     while executing
 $tkcanvas itemconfigure cord -arrow none
     (procedure add_arrows_to_cords line 8)
     invoked from within
 add_arrows_to_cords .gfxstub8566bd8
     (command bound to event)


 cheers

 2011/8/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at

 I whipped up a quick plugin to add arrowheads to cord when in editmode.
  The arrowheads clearly show the direction that the messages are flowing.

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Re: [PD] #store and getting pixel data from a movie file

2011-08-25 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hey Mathieu,

Thanks for the tips much appreciated, I'm going to to work on
something to extract sounds from video movements/colours basically.
I've done this in Gem with pix_data  pdp with pdp_cog - trying out
gridflow as I think there could be more ways of extracting values to
explore


I dont think gridflow likes the mp4 suffix? the console displays
[gf/io_generate 1012in] unknown suffix  'mp4'  .Changing the suffix
file manually from mp4 to .mov seems to resolve the issue though

Thanks again

On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

 I hope to ask for some tips regarding obtaining values from a loaded
 image/movie file by using gridflow ? #store gets can get rgb values
 from a specified pixel position

 You can pass multiple pixel positions at once to #store and it's much faster
 than getting pixels one by one. Those multiple pixel positions can in turn
 be organised in rows and columns so that you can make a new image by picking
 10 pixels in a single step, for example.

 but any advice on getting the whole dimensions at once

 What does that mean ?

 (or any other techniques in getting gridflow to output values from a movie
 file such as movement, luminosity or anything)?

 some kind of luminosity is what you get when you convert to greyscale. You
 may use [#rgb_to_greyscale].

 Movement can be a lot of different things.

 The easiest one is to subtract each frame with the previous one. Then you
 can know the change of luminosity from one image to the other, or the change
 of each channel. You do that using [t a a] and [# -] (plain diff) or [# sq-]
 (squared diff) or [# abs-] (absolute diff).

 You can also identify regions or compute mean positions of things and then
 look at the position differences. Sometimes I did that using [#moment] and
 then [t a a] and [# -]. Note that often the same tools work on different
 kinds of data (pixel colours vs pixel positions). This is a feature of
 GridFlow which is not found in other image-processors of Pd (GEM/PDP/etc).

 There are also algorithms to make a map of all translations (move) of pixels
 in the picture, but they have not incorporated in GridFlow.

 ...also is there support for mp4 in gridflow? the file format being the
 same as mov (I think?)

 GF uses Quicktime.framework (by Apple) on OSX, and libquicktime (by H.W. 
 Plaum) on Linux and now also on OSX. Nearly all video file format support
 rests upon that.

 GF also can run libmpeg3, but that's a MPEG1/MPEG2 decoder without plugins.

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[PD] #store and getting pixel data from a movie file

2011-08-23 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi

I hope to ask for some tips regarding obtaining values from a loaded
image/movie file by using gridflow ? #store gets can get rgb values
from a specified pixel position but any advice on getting the whole
dimensions at once (or any other techniques in getting gridflow to
output values from a movie file such as movement, luminosity or
anything)? ...also is there support for mp4 in gridflow? the file
format being the same as mov (I think?)

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Re: [PD] Gridflow path / startup the helpbrowser on multiple systems

2011-06-28 Thread ALAN BROOKER
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:25 PM, rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net wrote:
 OK, I'm confused.
 I have the latest versions of Gridflow installed on both Mac OS 10.6 and
 Ubuntu 10.4 and I'm having a problem configuring the Ubuntu installation the
 way I want it to work (somehow, the Mac installation does exactly what I
 need - intended or not - while Ubuntu is being stubborn).
 I want to load the Gridglow library only through [import gridflow] (mostly
 because it conflicts with [range] which I do use a lot - that's a topic for
 a different discusion), but I also want to have the gridflow help files
 accesible from the helpbrowser.

try doing it manually : copy the gridflow help folder  and place it
/usr/lib/pd/doc and next time you load up pd it will be in the help
browser There is probably a better way of doing tho




 Both systems have Pd-extended 0.42.5 installed.
 On both systems, I have paths set to .../gridflow/abstractions and
 .../gridflow/depricated (this seems to be part of the Gridflow setup?
 because I don't remember having set these manually)
 On both systems, there is no gridflow entry in Startup.
 On the Mac, [import gridflow] works.
 On Ubuntu, it generates a can't load library in 'gridflow' error. I can
 only get Gridflow to load if I add the path to it to Startup.
 On the Mac, all Gridflow help files show up in the helpbrowser, under a
 separate directory.
 On Ubuntu, the Gridflow help files do not show up at all.
 How do I make the Ubuntu installation behave as if it was a Mac ? :)

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Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED

2011-06-22 Thread ALAN BROOKER
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote:

 You're right, no one ever said that.  Even me.

 Did you actually look at the patch?  It is a technological parody of record
 scratching.
 It perfectly fits the definition given on this list.  If you don't think
 so, then
 please tell me what you can do with that patch that's so musically
 interesting that it
 would warrant buying a modern digital computer instead of a turntable.


Well, one might want to connect the sampler patch to another patch that
produces a contrasting sound, they both would share the same values sent to
the atom to change pitches ect.

Don't you think to say a patch that emulates scratching sounds from audio
samples is a technological parody of a scratching record player, is a bit
like saying a patch that emulates the sound of the piano is a technological
parody of a piano (they are both instruments)?. I think one purpose of audio
software to emulate instruments ?  Regarding if it is musically interesting,
I'm v. sure you know record scratching is(was?) used as an instrument in hip
hop and such.

If a purpose of audio software is emulation of physical instruments  then I
don't think it should be  labeled as a technological parody.  Otherwise you
could use the argument 'why have a computer when I can buy a physical
instrument' every time?

 Just sharing thoughts really, interesting topic.
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Re: [PD] t-shirt

2011-06-11 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hey- that good- like the sticker

On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:38 AM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote:
 hi everyone,

 i designed a simple t-shirt / sticker for pd:
 http://goo.gl/KgRsn (t-shirt)
 http://goo.gl/AyXt0 (sticker)

 here's a photo of the actual t-shirt (attached). the final version of the
 design is smaller (looks better).

 here's the python script i used to produce the design.

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Re: [PD] When the bubbles exploded, they tickled the bath.

2011-05-26 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi

maybe [+bubbler~] part of soundhack externals will be do?

http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php

On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote:
 I guess the question isn't that simple...

 2011/5/25 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com

 Hi All!

 A very simple question : if you wanted an audio source to sound as if it
 was played underwater and modulated everytime a bubbled reached the surface,
 how would you go about it?
 Convolution? I don't anything about it...

 Cheers!

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Re: [PD] [Gridflow-dev] [gemdead]

2011-05-22 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hey Jack cheers! that's what I needed :)

Love the [#see] object, beyond it's practical use I just like having
visual output on the same space as the patch
Think I checked out pdvjtools before but could get it to compile-while try again

On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Antonio Roberts
anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote:
 I've just come across [pix-preview], which is part of the pdvjtools
 package 
 http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/lib/exe/detail.php?id=start%3Apuredata_pdvjtoolsmedia=start:pix_preview_help_patch.png

 Looks like it does similar to [gem_see] object that was just created...

 On 30 April 2011 20:06, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote:
 This is amazing, thanks to you both!

 Ant

 On 30 April 2011 18:05, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote:
 Something like this could help.
 ++

 Jack



 Le samedi 30 avril 2011 à 12:06 +0100, ALAN BROOKER a écrit :
 Hey Ant,

 This can definitely be done- I was working on/off on a sort of ' #see
 for gem' but haven't perfected it yet.

 The method is to render 3d objects into a buffer  to pix object 
 then to #from_pix. Mathieu may know of a more efficient way of doing
 this tho

 The attached patch (if it doesn't work when first opened, close then
 re-open and should work) is what I was working on. As mentioned it's a
 work in progress and I could probably do with some efficiency tips
 here too!

 All the best

 Al




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 anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote:
  Thanks and sorry that I didn't stick around to get the reply on IRC.
 
  Secondly, can the cube be rendered to an [#out window] object? I know
  [#from_pix] can handle [pix_] objects, and I've tried using a [cube]
  as a [pix_texture] that I can then send to [#from_pix] but no luck so
  far
 
  Ant
 
  On 30 April 2011 01:04, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 
  from irc #dataflow :
 
  hellocatfood Is it possible to use [gemdead] with objects such as 
  [cube]
  and [sphere] in gridflow?
 
  In theory, I said no, but actually, [gemdead] doesn't prevent you from 
  using
  OpenGL elements, and things like [cube] and [sphere] don't check at all
  whether they're given a real [gemhead] context, and don't seem to be 
  doing
  much that is related to it, therefore :
 
   [gemhead]
    |
   [b]
    |
   [gemdead]
    |
   [cube]
 
  will really draw the cube as if you had done :
 
   [gemhead]
    |
   [cube]
 
  I suspect that very few Gem object classes really depend on an authentic
  GemState (one that was really created by [gemwin]). When you do find
  exceptions, please tell me.
 
  But you may have to use [gemhead] anyway (as in the above example) as 
  long
  as [gemwin] decides when to clear the buffer and when to copy the 
  buffer to
  the screen, just because [gemwin] uses [gemdead] to say when it's the 
  time
  to draw.
 
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Re: [PD] gui plug-ins not loading in new install

2011-05-17 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Thanks Yvan,

I was installing in the wrong place( usr/lib/pd/startup) -put it in
the local folder (home/pd-externals) and all is good-

Thanks again

Al



On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:06 PM, yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 05/12/2011 11:53 PM, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

 Hope I can ask for some advice? I have a fresh Kubuntu (Lucid) and Pd
 extended 0.43 (from nightly builds) install-Ive put the GUI plug-ins
 in start up but getting error messages on start up :

 '/usr/lib/pd/startup/buttonbar-plgincant load startup library'!

 Any advice would be appreciated-thanks

 as stated here:
 http://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins

 You can install a plugin anywhere you would install an external,
 abstraction or help patch

 and then How do I install externals and help files?
 http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files

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Re: [PD] Adding Gridflow to the visual arsenal

2011-05-17 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Patrick,

check out the help patch [gl/gf]- it details using Gridflow to create
openGL commands using Gem- good for making interesting  Gem shapes 
movements

 I made a patch using this object myself- will dig it out from my
laptop if you like

cheers
Al

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen cla...@goto10.org wrote:
 On 17/05/11 15:32, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

 Does anyone have any how to patches for bridging GEM/Gridflow/pdp/pidip?

 gridflow has bridges to PDP and Gem:
 #to_pdp #from_pdp
 #to_pix #from_pix

 gridflow must be loaded after pdp/Gem for the bridge to be loaded:
 $ pd -lib pdp:Gem:gridflow

 an example patch for the Gem bridge:
 gridflow/examples/game_of_life_gem.pd


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Re: [PD] Adding Gridflow to the visual arsenal

2011-05-17 Thread ALAN BROOKER
ahh just to clarify that it is [gf/gl] not the other way around :)

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:21 PM, ALAN BROOKER
alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Patrick,

 check out the help patch [gl/gf]- it details using Gridflow to create
 openGL commands using Gem- good for making interesting  Gem shapes 
 movements

  I made a patch using this object myself- will dig it out from my
 laptop if you like

 cheers
 Al

 On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen cla...@goto10.org 
 wrote:
 On 17/05/11 15:32, Pagano, Patrick wrote:

 Does anyone have any how to patches for bridging GEM/Gridflow/pdp/pidip?

 gridflow has bridges to PDP and Gem:
 #to_pdp #from_pdp
 #to_pix #from_pix

 gridflow must be loaded after pdp/Gem for the bridge to be loaded:
 $ pd -lib pdp:Gem:gridflow

 an example patch for the Gem bridge:
 gridflow/examples/game_of_life_gem.pd


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[PD] gui plug-ins not loading in new install

2011-05-12 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi List,

Hope I can ask for some advice? I have a fresh Kubuntu (Lucid) and Pd
extended 0.43 (from nightly builds) install-Ive put the GUI plug-ins
in start up but getting error messages on start up :

'/usr/lib/pd/startup/buttonbar-plgincant load startup library'!

Any advice would be appreciated-thanks

cheers
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Re: [PD] [gemdead]

2011-04-30 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hey Ant,

This can definitely be done- I was working on/off on a sort of ' #see
for gem' but haven't perfected it yet.

The method is to render 3d objects into a buffer  to pix object 
then to #from_pix. Mathieu may know of a more efficient way of doing
this tho

The attached patch (if it doesn't work when first opened, close then
re-open and should work) is what I was working on. As mentioned it's a
work in progress and I could probably do with some efficiency tips
here too!

All the best

Al




On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Antonio Roberts
anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote:
 Thanks and sorry that I didn't stick around to get the reply on IRC.

 Secondly, can the cube be rendered to an [#out window] object? I know
 [#from_pix] can handle [pix_] objects, and I've tried using a [cube]
 as a [pix_texture] that I can then send to [#from_pix] but no luck so
 far

 Ant

 On 30 April 2011 01:04, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:

 from irc #dataflow :

 hellocatfood Is it possible to use [gemdead] with objects such as [cube]
 and [sphere] in gridflow?

 In theory, I said no, but actually, [gemdead] doesn't prevent you from using
 OpenGL elements, and things like [cube] and [sphere] don't check at all
 whether they're given a real [gemhead] context, and don't seem to be doing
 much that is related to it, therefore :

  [gemhead]
   |
  [b]
   |
  [gemdead]
   |
  [cube]

 will really draw the cube as if you had done :

  [gemhead]
   |
  [cube]

 I suspect that very few Gem object classes really depend on an authentic
 GemState (one that was really created by [gemwin]). When you do find
 exceptions, please tell me.

 But you may have to use [gemhead] anyway (as in the above example) as long
 as [gemwin] decides when to clear the buffer and when to copy the buffer to
 the screen, just because [gemwin] uses [gemdead] to say when it's the time
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#N canvas 307 24 767 658 10;
#X obj 425 -112 pix_buffer \$0-framebuffer 2;
#X text 187 -230 you can render a scene into a framebuffer \, then
take a snapshot of the framebuffer with [pix_snap] and use this as
an ordinary pix (where you can apply effects and all kind of weird
things);
#X obj 181 214 cnv 15 250 130 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -233017
-66577 0;
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-66577 0;
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#X obj 293 68 i;
#X obj 326 67 + 1;
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#X msg 220 249 snap;
#X obj 188 297 t a b;
#X msg 402 302 1;
#X obj 188 322 pix_buffer_write \$0-framebuffer;
#X obj 516 81 t a b;
#X msg 571 82 1;
#X obj 464 131 pix_buffer_read \$0-framebuffer;
#X obj 488 243 square 3;
#X obj 185 23 translateXYZ 0 0 -4;
#X obj 188 273 pix_snap 0 0 256 256;
#X floatatom 332 88 5 0 0 1 MOVE_HERE - -;
#X text 424 -95 temporary storage;
#X text 236 226 later usage;
#X text 235 211 snapshot and store image for;
#X obj 486 210 pix_image;
#X obj 562 295 #dim;
#X obj 562 314 display;
#X obj 613 -13 gemdead;
#X obj 621 -61 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -4034 -1 -1 1 1
;
#X obj 502 274 #from_pix \, colorspace rgba;
#X msg 199 129 draw line;
#X obj 379 157 / 255;
#X floatatom 362 112 5 0 0 1 MOVE_HERE_TOO - -;
#X obj 272 138 color 1 0 0.31;
#X obj 671 152 #see 1;
#X obj 620 -40 metro 35;
#X obj 610 -98 loadbang;
#X msg 208 168 draw fill;
#X obj 204 -160 loadbang;
#X obj 482 362 #out window;
#X msg 219 -93 0;
#X msg 194 -134 create \, 1;
#X msg 280 -99 destroy;
#X msg 309 -166 dimen 1 1;
#X obj 273 183 teapot;
#X obj 214 -51 gemwin;
#X connect 4 0 19 0;
#X connect 5 0 34 0;
#X connect 6 0 10 0;
#X connect 6 1 5 0;
#X connect 6 2 7 0;
#X connect 7 0 8 0;
#X connect 7 0 5 1;
#X connect 7 0 5 2;
#X connect 8 0 9 0;
#X connect 9 0 7 1;
#X connect 10 0 20 0;
#X connect 10 1 11 0;
#X connect 11 0 20 0;
#X connect 12 0 14 0;
#X connect 12 1 13 0;
#X connect 13 0 14 1;
#X connect 15 0 17 0;
#X connect 15 1 16 0;
#X connect 16 0 17 1;
#X connect 17 0 25 0;
#X connect 18 0 30 0;
#X connect 19 0 6 0;
#X connect 20 0 12 0;
#X connect 21 0 5 3;
#X connect 25 0 18 0;
#X connect 26 0 27 0;
#X connect 28 0 15 0;
#X connect 28 0 4 0;
#X connect 29 0 36 0;
#X connect 30 0 26 0;
#X connect 30 0 35 0;
#X connect 30 0 40 0;
#X connect 31 0 45 0;
#X connect 32 0 45 1;
#X connect 33 0 32 0;
#X connect 34 0 45 0;
#X connect 36 0 28 0;
#X connect 36 0 46 0;
#X connect 37 0 29 0;
#X connect 38 0 45 0;
#X connect 39 0 42 0;
#X connect 39 0 41 0;
#X connect 39 0 44 0;
#X connect 41 0 46 0;
#X connect 42 0 46 0;
#X connect 43 0 46 0;
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Re: [PD] [OT]: An inflaming video posted on list [WAS]: Re: Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments

2011-04-14 Thread ALAN BROOKER
hmmmWhat is the context of the Musilini video?

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote:
 As I'm also writing from Italy, I thought I'd just spend a couple of
 words about this although it's pretty much off-topic, also hoping the
 original poster might shed a little light on this.

 Pagano, Patrick wrote:
 I agree that Mussolini should not be a favorite but it's simply a way to 
 access files for later recall.
 Mhh, well.. I think favourite has a very precise meaning, using
 favourite as bookmark seems strange.
 On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Husk,
 Hi Martin
 First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post
 than Simon's, just so that you know.
 I agree that husk's reaction was maybe a bit too strong, but you have to
 consider that most people (including myself) are quite sensitive to
 Mussoini here in Italy, especially these days.

 [...]
 I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon personally
 and I can vouch for him.
 Good to hear that Maybe would be good to read it directly from him :)
 The Mussolini video is not something that he
 posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam
 from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of
 media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no need
 to jump to conclusions.
 Ok we'll grant him benefit of doubt (but see my considerations on
 favourite - of course if his account was hacked/spammed he has all my
 simpathy).
 That said although I'm as much for freedom of ideas and speech I admit
 having a very strong bias towards someone openly (or less openly)
 pro-fascism, pro fascist revisionism (the intent of historically
 softening fascism), neo-fascism et. sim. even in a 'mild' way.
 I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that.
 See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this
 stange days in Italy.
 @ Husk... I agree with you. I think you (we) should be enraged in the
 same way (I am) with all the La storia di Mussolini, La storia del
 fascismo and similar shit they periodically sell in news-shops with
 large publicity on TV etc. and probably make big money with.
 BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in
 my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right?
 See above.
 My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him
 privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list.
 I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and
 collective discussions (and conflicts too)
 Hopefully this was just some misunderstanding and we can all happily go
 back to our Pd-ing :)

 Lorenzo.
 cheers
 husk

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Re: [PD] [OT]: An inflaming video posted on list [WAS]: Re: Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments

2011-04-14 Thread ALAN BROOKER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8Uav7EPlQ

On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:03 PM, ALAN BROOKER
alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:
 hmmmWhat is the context of the Musilini video?

 On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote:
 As I'm also writing from Italy, I thought I'd just spend a couple of
 words about this although it's pretty much off-topic, also hoping the
 original poster might shed a little light on this.

 Pagano, Patrick wrote:
 I agree that Mussolini should not be a favorite but it's simply a way to 
 access files for later recall.
 Mhh, well.. I think favourite has a very precise meaning, using
 favourite as bookmark seems strange.
 On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Hi Husk,
 Hi Martin
 First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post
 than Simon's, just so that you know.
 I agree that husk's reaction was maybe a bit too strong, but you have to
 consider that most people (including myself) are quite sensitive to
 Mussoini here in Italy, especially these days.

 [...]
 I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon 
 personally
 and I can vouch for him.
 Good to hear that Maybe would be good to read it directly from him :)
 The Mussolini video is not something that he
 posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam
 from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of
 media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no 
 need
 to jump to conclusions.
 Ok we'll grant him benefit of doubt (but see my considerations on
 favourite - of course if his account was hacked/spammed he has all my
 simpathy).
 That said although I'm as much for freedom of ideas and speech I admit
 having a very strong bias towards someone openly (or less openly)
 pro-fascism, pro fascist revisionism (the intent of historically
 softening fascism), neo-fascism et. sim. even in a 'mild' way.
 I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that.
 See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this
 stange days in Italy.
 @ Husk... I agree with you. I think you (we) should be enraged in the
 same way (I am) with all the La storia di Mussolini, La storia del
 fascismo and similar shit they periodically sell in news-shops with
 large publicity on TV etc. and probably make big money with.
 BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in
 my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right?
 See above.
 My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him
 privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list.
 I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and
 collective discussions (and conflicts too)
 Hopefully this was just some misunderstanding and we can all happily go
 back to our Pd-ing :)

 Lorenzo.
 cheers
 husk

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Re: [PD] Latest pd-extended 0.43 autobuild on WinXp

2011-04-01 Thread ALAN BROOKER
ah... I had the same problem with Ubuntu on a fresh install after
upgrading to 10.10

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM,  martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote:

 It seems that the latest version of pd-extended from 
 http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-04-01/ can't
 instantiate the internals, but the externals seem to work.

 Any idea why?
 (I removed all previous versions from the computer.)

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] patch dans patch (5ième partie)

2011-03-28 Thread ALAN BROOKER
one of my favourites:

http://gridflow.ca/gallery/patch_dans_patch_8.png


I might try some myself!

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 On Sun, 27 Mar 2011, chr wrote:

 great-code-art
 !!!

 More coming soon. This series is several weeks old even though I posted it
 only this friday night, and in the meantime I had already started a new
 series. You will see that it's completely different again.

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Re: [PD] text3d on new Macbook Pro

2011-03-26 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi

Does text2d work? It could be fonts haven't been loaded into Gem

On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:13 PM, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com wrote:
 Hi list,

 does anyone know how to get text3d working properly on the new Macbook
 Pro? It's the 8,1 model with Intel HD Graphics 3000 running 10.6.6 and
 Pd-extended 0.42.5. Is there a driver that needs to be installed?

 thanks

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Re: [PD] Am I a phone?

2011-03-25 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Wow that's a good result! I haven't got an iAnything at the moment but
would love to hear the audio for this...

This may have been asked before but is there a possibility to run Pd on Andriod?



On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner

 I didn't realize that Inception now has 3,000,000 downloads!  That means
 Pd is on 3,000,000 iThings...

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[PD] Am I a phone?

2011-03-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
An interesting web discussion on mobile games  Pd

PureData and Mobile Phone Games Sound:
http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/5944/puredata-and-mobile-phone-games-sound

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Re: [PD] cannot get pix_record to work

2011-03-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
You could use use the gridflow object [#from_pix] to  [#out] as
Mathieu mentioned to record Gem stuff too

On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:
 On Thu, 24 Mar 2011, Husk 00 wrote:

 I use #record from gridflow. It's not Gem, I know, but it's a good
 solution (thanks Mathieu) cheers husk

 I don't remember whether I said the following already, but I don't use
 [#record] and didn't write [#record].

 I find it more convenient to be using [#out] directly, as it makes it easy
 to write down your settings in your own patch, like this :

  [open stuff.mov, framerate 25, codec jpeg, parameter jpeg_quality 67(
   |
  [#out]

 or if you really want to loadbang it, there's a single-box shortcut :

  [#out stuff.mov, framerate 25, codec jpeg, parameter jpeg_quality 67]

 but I don't use this shortcut often, because I want to avoid some potential
 accidents of overwriting files :)

 [#record] is a small abstraction that uses [#out]'s open quicktime.

 Note that you can only use one [#record] at a time, but you can use several
 [#out].

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Re: [PD] BrightonPD

2011-03-21 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Philip

great to see UK pd happenings- in future if I get out of Brirmingham
I'll come patch some time :)

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Philip Cunningham
pcunningham...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Oops, sorry for the typo. The next meeting is Sat 26 March 2011 from
 2.30pm onwards. This was because the date had to bee changed
 (copy-paste fail).

 Thanks Husk 00!

 Best,
 Philip

 On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote:
 En hora buena!
 congrats philip!

 cheers
 husk

 On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Philip Cunningham
 pcunningham...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Greatly inspired by the NYCPatchingCircle (hope you don't mind us
 using your blurb), a small group of patchers have taken root in the
 coastal city of Brighton, UK. Our next meeting is at Build Brighton on
 Thur 26 March 2011 from 2.30pm onwards. The Skiff, 6 Gloucester
 Street, BN1 4EW. Please come along!

 http://is.gd/brightonpd

 Best wishes,
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Re: [PD] The economics of Open source

2011-03-18 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi
Just an idea, but perhaps a sort of fund raising drive for specific
projects for PD? Like say a fund raise drive for extra documentation
(did gridflow do this once in 05?), some fancy PD coffee table book :
)  or development of some new external ect. each project has it's own
licience depending on it's aims?

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Bernardo Barros
bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote:
 2011/3/18 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca:
 already. Then the only way to get a reward for having done work that hasn't
 been asked for, is always in terms of how much it will get people to offer
 you money for future work. Perhaps there ought to be a donation system for
 work that has been already done ?


 But it ends up being something very similar, given that the
 maintenance of existing software also counts as  future work .

 Another related thing: I'm a little reticent when it comes to donating
 to software under the BSD license and the like, considering that my
 donation could end up being an investment in private corporations at
 the end.

 If PureData + extensions will adopt a Donation System, I'd suggest to
 differentiate donation for GPL and BSD work, so we could donate just
 for the GPL'ed territory.

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Re: [PD] Sound design forums?

2011-03-16 Thread ALAN BROOKER
There's a soundcloud page for the Pd forum so you can post sounds there too

On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote:


 - geared toward synthesis of leftfield sound elements
 - probably using traditional synthesis methods e.g subtractive, FM etc.
 - not necessarily tied to any platform/software/hardware just general
 - perhaps somewhere I could post a short audio clip of a sound and people
 could chime in about how they would synthesize that type of sound



 http://puredata.hurleur.com/ Pd forum, covers all the bold points very well,
 very helpful community as is this list.
 I like http://createdigitalmusic.com/ for general news rather then specific
 advice, kind of a well of ideas.
 If you find a really good general synth community I'd love to hear about it
 too.
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Re: [PD] Generative Pure Data based internet radio

2011-03-10 Thread ALAN BROOKER
I liked rand, I remember this one composition n played random samples
of super mario

... in fact I might try to recreate it in pd and upload it :)

On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:38 PM,  g...@itchybit.org wrote:
 hi

 My big project over the last two months or so has been PatchWerk Radio, a
 generative internet radio station that streams 24/7 and is built in PD and
 Python. The website if you want to have a look is at
 http://radio.rumblesan.com

 reminds me of http://r4nd.org ... god knows what happened with that
 project .. the domain is no longer running it

 http://www.runme.org/project/+rand/

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Re: [PD] How to capture sound video from Pd/Gem

2011-03-03 Thread ALAN BROOKER
if you don't get anywhere with [pdp_rec~] another alternative could be
to try the gridflow objects [#to_pix] to connect a Gem scene to
gridflow -- then connect to [#record] to record the scene. However I
don't think it records sound- check out the Gridflow help index and
files.

Personally I have not had much luck with recording in Gem, as
mentioned I output tiffs to combine into a movie file...any sound I
record separately and add later using a video editor.

A bit of a pain but at least it comes together in the end. ..except
IMHO the only really good video editor (Kdenlives) loves crashing .
Next best thing is Pitivi

On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org wrote:
 Hi,

 it looks like i can't capture with recordmyDesktop... i only get error code 
 256
 / 2816

 I would like to give [pdp_rec~] a try, but i can't make a [pix_2pdp] object. 
 The
 error message here is:

 /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pix_2pdp.pd_linux:
 /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pix_2pdp.pd_linux: undefined symbol:
 _ZN9CPPExtern4postEPKcz

 but the object is there and the help file refers to pix_freeframe, which could
 be because of the version of GEM from svn.

 Markus

 On 02.03.2011 00:12, Pedro Lopes wrote:
 Hey,

 I use recordmydesktop, it captures OpenGL and audio through Jack, sou I 
 route it
 to record pd output.
 Sometimes I have lags, which is shi* but then again I did not setup things
 carefully (i'm not with an rt kernel now, and my screen is wid).

 All these videos are recorded that way
 1) http://vimeo.com/11792446 (see the last frame of this one[1], it helps you
 with the arguments for the recordmydesktop - since they are a bit freaky) - 
 This
 was done with a slower laptop than my newer but it was RT and I really felt 
 that
 it helps in grabbing the video/audio data.
 2) http://vimeo.com/11949192 (see the first frame of this one[1], no lagged
 older laptop with rt kernel)
 3) http://vimeo.com/17469068 (once again first frame, this is lagged better
 laptop, kernel is not rt)

 [1] hooray for laziness in not cutting the videos!

 Best,
 Pedro Lopes

 On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com
 mailto:alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:

     ahh correction- the object is under pidip and is called [pdp_rec~]

     On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com
     mailto:alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:
      I dont know how much this could help but a good object for recording
      visuals and sound synced is[pdp_record] either part of pdp or pidip
      (cant remember which one).
     
      try the gem_to_pdp bridge to connect Gem scene and [pdp_record]
      together. To be honest I am as yet to try this myself as I often just
      out put Gem visuals as a series of tiffs and then stitch them together
      later to make an ogg file.
     
     
     
     
      On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org
     mailto:a...@zankapfel.org wrote:
      Hi List,
     
      does anybody know a good (working) way to capture audio and video 
 from Pd/Gem
      under linux?
     
      So far i tried using glc-capture, which gives good video results, but
     refuses to
      record any sound at all. glc-capture should work with alsa, but it 
 only
     outputs
      error messages like this: snd_pcm_open (input): Device or resource 
 busy or [
      33.15s alsa_capture error ] initialization failed: Invalid argument 
 ...
     
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Re: [PD] thanks for Pduino!

2011-03-01 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Yeah pduino is great- using Gem it's an easier way to get visuals
reacting to Arduino board data than using Processing...thanks!

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 Just wanted to say thanks to Hans and everyone involved in putting Pduino
 together.
 I am having a ball with it!
 So, thanks!

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Re: [PD] How to capture sound video from Pd/Gem

2011-03-01 Thread ALAN BROOKER
I dont know how much this could help but a good object for recording
visuals and sound synced is[pdp_record] either part of pdp or pidip
(cant remember which one).

try the gem_to_pdp bridge to connect Gem scene and [pdp_record]
together. To be honest I am as yet to try this myself as I often just
out put Gem visuals as a series of tiffs and then stitch them together
later to make an ogg file.




On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org wrote:
 Hi List,

 does anybody know a good (working) way to capture audio and video from Pd/Gem
 under linux?

 So far i tried using glc-capture, which gives good video results, but refuses 
 to
 record any sound at all. glc-capture should work with alsa, but it only 
 outputs
 error messages like this: snd_pcm_open (input): Device or resource busy or [
 33.15s alsa_capture error ] initialization failed: Invalid argument ...

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Re: [PD] How to capture sound video from Pd/Gem

2011-03-01 Thread ALAN BROOKER
ahh correction- the object is under pidip and is called [pdp_rec~]

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:
 I dont know how much this could help but a good object for recording
 visuals and sound synced is[pdp_record] either part of pdp or pidip
 (cant remember which one).

 try the gem_to_pdp bridge to connect Gem scene and [pdp_record]
 together. To be honest I am as yet to try this myself as I often just
 out put Gem visuals as a series of tiffs and then stitch them together
 later to make an ogg file.




 On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org wrote:
 Hi List,

 does anybody know a good (working) way to capture audio and video from Pd/Gem
 under linux?

 So far i tried using glc-capture, which gives good video results, but 
 refuses to
 record any sound at all. glc-capture should work with alsa, but it only 
 outputs
 error messages like this: snd_pcm_open (input): Device or resource busy or [
 33.15s alsa_capture error ] initialization failed: Invalid argument ...

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Cyrille

Do you have the svn link? Thanks for this

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote:
 hello,
 i've made a new pmpd version.
 There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
 this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
 there is few differences anyway :
 - few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
 - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
 - there is now a damping associate with each masses
 - there are more messages to get simulation data

 I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be
 maintained.

 help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10

2011-02-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
http://tcritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/rtfm.jpg
:)

Yeah I went to look at the downloads page  pmpd website -
thanks! i'll have a look there

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote:

 I guess that's an RTFM ;)  You could have also just typed 'svn info' and
 paste the direct URL into the email.

 There is a pmpd page on the downloads page, that would be a great place
 to put the tarball:

 http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/pmpd

 .hc

 On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:48 +0100, cyrille henry wrote:
 http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/develop
 c


 Le 24/02/2011 21:33, ALAN BROOKER a écrit :
  Hi Cyrille
 
  Do you have the svn link? Thanks for this
 
  On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, cyrille henryc...@chnry.net  wrote:
  hello,
  i've made a new pmpd version.
  There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d.
  this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible.
  there is few differences anyway :
  - few messages get renamed (both on input or output)
  - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping
  - there is now a damping associate with each masses
  - there are more messages to get simulation data
 
  I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be
  maintained.
 
  help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn.
 
  Cyrille
 
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Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)

2011-02-23 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Yeah all seems to work( so far) like #out and #see which were not
working before, I am using pd-l2ork 18/02 build so maybe something was
fixed there not too sure.  Going to join on the pd-l2ork-dev mailing
list to catch future announcements---pd-l2ork is great stuff!

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote:
 Great! Thanks for the report. This was definitely on my todo list.

 BTW There have been a lot of unannounced releases of pd-l2ork lately so you 
 may want to check it out. Latest release alone includes universal copy and 
 paste and many other usability improvements.

 Cheers!

 ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi All

tried quickly L2Ork with  Gridflow  9.14 and both are working
great-big thanks  :)

Off topic Mathieu but has Gridflow  9.14 been tested with  the vanilla
Pd  0.43-0 test versions?

Thanks again


On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 oops!Apologies Mathieu, it was meant for list, rather just an email to you
 directly


 I have all of those libraries installed, so I will download Gridflow again
 shortly for those additions-  the object [#to_pdp] is working and and can
 display output, so I am using that for meantime
 Thanks to all for looking into this, it's great to have gridflow going
 on L2Ork pd-extended for a good set up !

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

 I have replaced  the g_canvas.h  with the version from L2Ork pd-extended
 and recomplided gridflow- yes it is stable now. However some objects are 
 not
 loading/working specifically [#see] and [#out window].

 I am replying back to the list because it looks like your email doesn't
 have private content, even though you wrote it to just me.

 The problem with [#see] must have to do with changes specific to L2Ork. Do
 you get a crash ? It has to do with the NEWWB macro in src/classes_gui.cxx,
 which allocates a t_widgetbehavior, but does not set the 8th field. To do
 this in a way that is also compatible with pd-extended's g_canvas.h, we 
 have
 to add a CLEAR(wb) right there (it's just a memset shortcut). I'm adding it
 now.

 [#out window] is an alias for any of the 3 main image display handlers :
 [#out x11], [#out sdl], [#out quartz]. (there are two more, [#out aalib] 
 and
 [#see], that aren't accessible by [#out window]).

 To get [#out x11] working, you need to have enough .h files installed.
 Perhaps you need libx11-dev, libxext-dev, and/or libxt-dev. They're not
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[PD] Pd 0.43-0 test +Gridflow (was Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended)

2011-02-23 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi

Thanks, yes wanted to see if it was compatible at your end- just to
give some brief feedback,-I have actually been using Gridflow +
vanilla Pd 0.43-0 (test 3) on Ubuntu and it works mostly. The big
issue for me was the help index, which would completely crash PD when
selected, but PD 0.43 is a test release I suppose. So for me, other
than the help index (and perhaps some examples which crashed PD)  it
is usable



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 On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

 tried quickly L2Ork with Gridflow 9.14 and both are working great-big
 thanks :)

 I haven't done any testing nor debugging with L20rk, and AFAIK, I haven't
 fixed anything that caused a problem with L20rk. This means that the bug is
 probably still there, and might pop in your face, probably only in a future
 release. This is unless I fixed it by accident.

 Off topic Mathieu but has Gridflow  9.14 been tested with  the vanilla
 Pd  0.43-0 test versions?

 It's been tried and it doesn't work. It's currently hard to debug, so, I
 want to make some big changes to the [doc_...] abstractions to make it
 easier to put my finger on the bug. Either that or hack pd again so that it
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Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)

2011-02-22 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi All

tried quickly L2Ork with  Gridflow  9.14 and both are working
great-big thanks  :)

Off topic Mathieu but has Gridflow  9.14 been tested with  the vanilla
Pd  0.43-0 test versions?

Thanks again


On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:
 oops!Apologies Mathieu, it was meant for list, rather just an email to you
 directly


 I have all of those libraries installed, so I will download Gridflow again
 shortly for those additions-  the object [#to_pdp] is working and and can
 display output, so I am using that for meantime
 Thanks to all for looking into this, it's great to have gridflow going
 on L2Ork pd-extended for a good set up !

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

 I have replaced  the g_canvas.h  with the version from L2Ork pd-extended
 and recomplided gridflow- yes it is stable now. However some objects are not
 loading/working specifically [#see] and [#out window].

 I am replying back to the list because it looks like your email doesn't
 have private content, even though you wrote it to just me.

 The problem with [#see] must have to do with changes specific to L2Ork. Do
 you get a crash ? It has to do with the NEWWB macro in src/classes_gui.cxx,
 which allocates a t_widgetbehavior, but does not set the 8th field. To do
 this in a way that is also compatible with pd-extended's g_canvas.h, we have
 to add a CLEAR(wb) right there (it's just a memset shortcut). I'm adding it
 now.

 [#out window] is an alias for any of the 3 main image display handlers :
 [#out x11], [#out sdl], [#out quartz]. (there are two more, [#out aalib] and
 [#see], that aren't accessible by [#out window]).

 To get [#out x11] working, you need to have enough .h files installed.
 Perhaps you need libx11-dev, libxext-dev, and/or libxt-dev. They're not
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Help FLOSS Manuals @ Open Web Awards

2011-02-03 Thread ALAN BROOKER
+1

On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote:
 2

 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:08 AM, jm jones juan...@gmail.com wrote:

 2011/2/3 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl:
  Dear Pd folks,
 
  Adam Hyde has asked for your support by voting for Booki in the Open Web
  Awards. Booki will be the new platform for all the FLOSS Manuals,
  including
  the Pure Data one. So a vote for Booki is a vote for the Pd FLOSS
  Manual!
 
  Best wishes from Berlin!
  Derek
 
  ***
 
  vote for booki in the Open Web Awards!
 
  Booki (the latest FM project - http://www.booki.cc - a collaborative
  publishing platform) is in the final of the Open Web Awards.
  Great! We are 1 of 3 projects. If we win we get 5000 which we will use
  to do a code sprint on a tropical island somewhere ;)
 
  please please please register :
  http://www.drumbeat.org/user/register
 
  and vote for us by visiting this page and clicking on the 'vote' link
  (top
  right):
  http://www.drumbeat.org/project/open-web-publishing
 
  and pass this around :)
 
  Adam Hyde
  Founder FLOSS Manuals 
  Booki Project Manager
 
  Contact Information
  German mobile : + 49 177 4935122
  Email : a...@flossmanuals.net
  irc : irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals
 
 
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Re: [PD] Music made with Pd

2011-02-01 Thread ALAN BROOKER
wow! really like this---here is another clip...pure data on the news!

http://vimeo.com/17123835

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com wrote:

 A little improvisation with Pd:

 http://vimeo.com/19385664


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Re: [PD] [ot] hosting service for a pure data project?

2011-01-28 Thread ALAN BROOKER
I use google code for my patches/ random stuff :
http://code.google.com/p/databodega/downloads/list

main page is here:
http://code.google.com/projecthosting/

http://code.google.com/projecthosting/quite straight forward to upload and
manage from my experience

On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Athos Bacchiocchi athos.bacchioc...@tin.it
 wrote:

 i'm planning to share a patch made with some friends and i need a free
 hosting service for this purpose. I usually use wordpress.com for my
 personal stuff, but it doesn't allow for many file types, including
 archives and .pd files. I would use the website to keep trace of our
 plans, further steps, documentation and so on, so something with a blog-
 like approach would be better for us. And maybe something to handle the
 contributed development of the patch (we are now using just a dropbox
 shared folder). I was thinking about sourceforge, but isn't it too much
 for just a pure data patch?

 Any suggestion?

 thanks,
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[PD] Gem [glsl_geometry]: need OpenGL-2.1

2011-01-27 Thread ALAN BROOKER
HI List,


I am trying to learn the pixel shaders/geometry aspect of Gem on Ubuntu, but
in trying to load the [glsl_geometry] help patch I get the following error
message on rendering:


error: [glsl_geometry]: need OpenGL-2.1 (or at least the geometry-shader
ARB-extension) to run GLSL
... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu.

I can find any way to update from synaptic -is there a way I can get this
updated/working?

Appreciate any help

Alan
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Re: [PD] Gem [glsl_geometry]: need OpenGL-2.1

2011-01-27 Thread ALAN BROOKER
doh!  :)

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:37 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote:

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  I can find any way to update from synaptic -is there a way I can get this
  updated/working?
 

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Re: [PD] HPGL tools for drawing pd patches and more

2011-01-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
you mean this ?

http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/~pbourke/dataformats/hpgl/

http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/~pbourke/dataformats/hpgl/any pics?

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:


 Btw I'm currently developing several other pieces in my HPGL (plotter)
 chain tool :

  [hpgl_to_lines], converter from hpgl to line segments

  [hpgl_objectbox], to draw an objectbox as hpgl (one inlet, one outlet)

  [hpgl_messagebox], to draw a messagebox as hpgl (one inlet, one outlet)

  [hpgl_from_patch], convert from pd patch format to hpgl

 In those cases, when it says from hpgl and to hpgl, those are pd
 messages, and you need [plotter_parser] to parse hpgl bytes, and/or
 [plotter_control] to produce hpgl bytes (or neither if you only use the hpgl
 messages as an intermediate format between two other things).

 Is anyone else interested in that kind of thing ?

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Infinite Glitch

2011-01-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
impressive! :)

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello List,

 Today is the official release of Infinite Glitch, an online based artwork
 that was created using, among other things, Pd-extended and PdGst. Thanks so
 much to everyone who has helped with the development of these great tools!

 You can read through the description below or jump straight to the project
 page: http://infiniteglitch.com

 --

 Every day an incomprehensible number of new digital media files are
 uploaded to hosting sites across the internet. Far too many for any one
 person to consume. Infinite Glitch http://infiniteglitch.com/ is a
 stream-of-conciousness representation of this overwhelming flood of media,
 its fractured and degraded sounds and images reflecting how little we as an
 audience are able to retain from this daily barrage.
  http://infiniteglitch.com/

 Infinite Glitch http://infiniteglitch.com/ is an automated system that
 generates an ever-changing audio/video stream from the constantly increasing
 mass of media files freely available on the web. Source audio and video
 files are ripped from a variety of popular media hosting sites, torn apart,
 and recombined using collage and glitch techniques to create an organic,
 chaotic flood of sensory input.

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Re: [PD] Flossmanual is down

2011-01-18 Thread ALAN BROOKER
That was an excellent resource- seems to have disappeared from index page as
well?

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Nic Freed beatthefinalb...@gmail.comwrote:

 I mentioned it on #dataflow, and they said to put it here, so, here we are
 :)

 I was going back to the (very useful) pd flossmanual, but now it seems to
 be down. The people at the chat said its probably a sysadmin error or
 something, idunno.

 http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/

 Thanks!

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] flocons (fwd)

2011-01-09 Thread ALAN BROOKER
what type of sounds could be generated from the data to make these snowflakes?
hmm

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:

 On Sat, 8 Jan 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote:

   http://gridflow.ca/gallery/flocon_256_114_14.png
 This one is beautiful.


 What does that imply about the other ones ? ;)


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Re: [PD] pd in mac app store

2011-01-09 Thread ALAN BROOKER
ahh yes that definition of RJDJ is clear now...

It's nice have Pd ported to here and there but perhaps time need to sort
of licence matters  would not make it worth it.

I remember using Pd for the old ipods via ipod linux- that was a really good
project,

On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.ukwrote:

 On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 10:53:37 +
 ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote:

  Regarding ugly plan: Is app store 'lock-in' any different from apple's
 usual
  hardware' lock in' for laptops/desktops? Pd still runs on those platforms
 so
  why not port ipad, ipod, iphone upud, ipid etc?
 
  In any case isnt RJDJ the port for Pd to this platform anyway ? I could
 be
  wrong- not 100%


 I wouldn't say it's a port of of Pd, not as an application.
 It's a port of Pd to support a specific application class
 with its own interfaces.

 The GUI for Pd on a tablet would be quite different anyway,
 to take advantage of that device's touch gestures, a direct
 port of the keyboard oriented interface would miss an opportunity.

 Regarding Apple, who are only one manufacturer of mobile
 and tablet devices; I think this is a moral issue that can
 be easily settled by watching this famous advertisement,

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8

 and comparing the stance implied there with their position
 25 years later.




 
 
 
  On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote:
 
   But kids have such a shorter attention span these days
  
   D.
  
  
   On 1/8/11 4:29 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
  
BTW, the nineties had another site for that, which had a lot more
 text,
   from which you could actually learn, instead of OMG FAIL.
  
  
  
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Re: [PD] pd in mac app store

2011-01-08 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Regarding ugly plan: Is app store 'lock-in' any different from apple's usual
hardware' lock in' for laptops/desktops? Pd still runs on those platforms so
why not port ipad, ipod, iphone upud, ipid etc?

In any case isnt RJDJ the port for Pd to this platform anyway ? I could be
wrong- not 100%



On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote:

 But kids have such a shorter attention span these days

 D.


 On 1/8/11 4:29 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

  BTW, the nineties had another site for that, which had a lot more text,
 from which you could actually learn, instead of OMG FAIL.



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Joyeux Noël !

2010-12-24 Thread ALAN BROOKER
nice!

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http://gridflow.ca/gallery/joyeux_no%C3%ABl.png


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Re: [PD] Javascript in PD?

2010-12-17 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Java for PD:

http://www.le-son666.com/software/pdj/

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:

 On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote:

  2010/12/16 Dima Bak sounddesign3...@gmail.com:

 Is there a way to use js in PD like in Max (js object)? Thanks

 I think just python and lua (much better btw :-)


 python, lua, tcl, haskell, scheme, java, c#, etc. (there are several other
 lesser known and there exists no database of existing externals, so this is
 just by memory)

 But there's nothing that allows you to write source code in a box... the
 closest is [expr].

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[PD] editmode_look-plugin error

2010-12-17 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi

The gui plugin *editmode_look-plugin. *is very nice but when ever I try to
add an array, click on an object to change the properties or go into
preferences to change the start up path, a diolog box pops up with the
following error:


invalid command name .gfxstub82dfac0.c

invalid command name .gfxstub82dfac0.c

while executing

$tkcanvas configure -background white

(procedure set_cords_by_editmode line 17)

invoked from within

set_cords_by_editmode .gfxstub82dfac0

(command bound to event)


 Has anyone else had this error or is it my set up? Thanks for any info
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Re: [PD] Javascript in PD?

2010-12-17 Thread ALAN BROOKER
hmm.. sounds interesting do you have a link?

On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Jamie Bullock ja...@postlude.co.uk wrote:


 On 17 Dec 2010, at 13:40, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

  On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, ALAN BROOKER wrote:
 
  Java for PD:
  http://www.le-son666.com/software/pdj/
 
  Ah yeah, you can see on Pascal Gauthier's page (that page) that PDJ also
 supports JavaScript and any other language for which you can find an
 interpreter running on the JVM, and the example here is Rhino, a JavaScript
 interpreter.
 

 And don't forget k_cext, which allows you type C code directly into an
 object box, compiles it and runs it when the object gets a passed a message!

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Re: [PD] A bit of fun

2010-12-16 Thread ALAN BROOKER
...so tempting- Like a big red button saying* do not press*

It would be interesting to use shell as a way of *sonifying system data
(memory usage ect**)*

great patches!

On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.comwrote:

  [sudo rm -rf / (
 |
 [shell]

 * Disclaimer, do NOT do this. No realy, Don't! This would be a REALLY
 STUPID THING TO DO

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 To: jbtur...@hotmail.com


 those two very simple patches are very instructive, thanx a lot. I was
 unaware that it is that easy to call shell commands from withitn Pd. One
 could do quite some damage with this I assume...

 Thanks again,
 Jurgen

 On Dec 15, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Faraday wrote:

 Hey there

 I don't know whether to be proud of these patches or abjectly ashamed, but
 I thought you might like a nosey. Two patches I was playing with on my
 mac...

 Andrew
 Picture 1.pngPicture 2.png
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Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-14 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Just curious
Overall, at which point is a project forked? When additions are made or
taken away? Or just when licence terms are changed? If the code is copied
and then released under a different name?
In this case it would be the licence change I believe

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote:

 On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Jonathan Wilkes wrote:

  So did the software in question _always_ have the conflicting licenses, or
 was it originally just GPL and in a subsequent version the other license was
 added?


 Well, I found the military clause in PiDiP in déc.2005, and I have no idea
 for how long it had been there at that time.

 Until now, I had no idea about Unauthorized, really, but I just looked at a
 checkout from last month, and COPYING was just the GPLv2.


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[PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi

Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards
to inappropriate/aggressive comments?
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Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread ALAN BROOKER
 Jurgen:

I don't agree that it is a “ extremely violent” comment because it is a
suggestion rather than any sort of threat? Perhaps you be a bit more
specific by what you mean. In any case, it is reasonable thing to say- if
you are not happy with the people here don't subscribe to the list. “If you
don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all”

Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because they
contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider useful obliges
nobody else but you.


 Would like to explain just how useful and constructive ydegoyon's previous
comment was in that “there are only three collaborators and you call that a
community”? What is the point is saying that? You must agree it is a comment
to really just take the piss out of the developers and is demotivating.
Hardly sensible discourse


 Do you think that your own way of reacting to posts here should be elevated
to become standard of the entire group? What an idea!


 No, that is not the case at all, and if this is the impression I have given
, then I apologise-were all adults here and if I have done something wrong
then I am willing to take a step back. If you don't agree with me, that's
fair enough-like I said bad feelings between people is not a good thing.


 To just me it seems, that Sevy is pissed off and is just trying to piss
other people off. If you like have look back at some of the previous posts
and then tell me if you think his posts are constructive or not.





On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:24 AM, jurgen noise@gmail.com wrote:

 I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if he's not
 happy extremely violent and inappropriate. Do you think that your own way of
 reacting to posts here should be elevated to become standard of the entire
 group? What an idea!

 Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because they
 contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider useful obliges
 nobody else but you.


 On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:30 PM, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

  Hi
 
  Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards to
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Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread ALAN BROOKER
You make a good point, I would support you on this as it is
constructive criticism. Taking the piss out of people is just not good .

all the best.



Are you still maintaining PiDiP?

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:10 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote:


  because i protest against the way decisions are taken?

  did you ever see here any decision that was submitted to a vote?
 ( for example like which libraries should be included in extended ?
 or if the chord patches should be orange and with an arrow? )

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Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread ALAN BROOKER
*

Downloads for PD extended from 2010-12-06 to 2010-12-13 for windows:  1607

Downloads for PD extended from 2010-12-06 to 2010-12-13 for OS X:  841

Downloads for PD extended from 2010-12-06 to 2010-12-13 for Debian:  6

so the total for downloads over a 7 day period across all platforms is 2454.
That is allot of users for PD extended and the period doesn't even cover a
whole month, that is a healthy user community to me.

An email is sent asking for more people to help out in maintaining libraries
and your response is to just take the piss and say 'ha ha here are only 3
collaborators...”. How is that suppose to make the few developers feel? How
is that being constructive when someone is asking for help in maintaining
the project?

To say; “ Maybe if there was a more open process of selecting libraries
there would be more developers” would be more helpful because maybe then
things would change.

It was a disappointing response, but I wish you the best.



*
*
*
*
*
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:21 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.comwrote:


 You make a good point, I would support you on this as it is
 constructive criticism. Taking the piss out of people is just not good .

 all the best.



 Are you still maintaining PiDiP?

 On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:10 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote:


  because i protest against the way decisions are taken?

  did you ever see here any decision that was submitted to a vote?
 ( for example like which libraries should be included in extended ?
 or if the chord patches should be orange and with an arrow? )



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Re: [PD] buttonbar GUI plugin

2010-12-11 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi

Can I just check where the other gui plugins go? I dropped them in a folder
called *start up* in /usr/local/lib/pd-externals and get the following
errors in the console- thanks for any tips

-
UNHANDLED ERROR: couldn't open
/usr/local/lib/pd/startup/object_tags.tcllist: no such file or directory
while executing
open [file join $::sys_libdir startup object_tags.tcllist]
(uplevel body line 42)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $tclcode
FAILED TO LOAD /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/startup/object_db-plugin.tcl
---
---
UNHANDLED ERROR: window name create already exists in parent
while executing
menu .popup.create
(uplevel body line 11)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $tclcode
FAILED TO LOAD
/usr/local/lib/pd-externals/startup/disabled/insertintopopup-plugin.tcl
---
(Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name pdtk_pd_meters
while executing
pdtk_pd_meters 0 0 0 0
(uplevel body line 1)
invoked from within
uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote:

 On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 10:23:45AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
 
  Yes, this is vanilla 0.43.  Just drop them into the user-installed
  folders like installing an external:
 
  http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files

 Whoa, awesome, I just tried this with the full-screen tcl plugin. This
 plugins
 thing is a very cool feature! Congratulations to all you devs, and many
 thanks.

 Chris.

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Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-11 Thread ALAN BROOKER
I agree but how could such a term ever be enforced if the military were to
use it? Through litigation? IMO such a term is unenforceable
... arguably making it redundant-although I am happy to hear other's point
of view?

On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Martin . blindmanona...@gmail.com wrote:

 +1 for including the line about military use in pd's license. That will
 make us all happy. And the military then has to use maxmsp.

 Though, I assume it means military institutions and not my own militant
 guerilla art.

 But, we could also conclude that war/military is commercial, at least in
 the sense that war is waged for profit, and thus GPL should do



 On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:46 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote:


 good!!! i'm free to do what i like now!!!

 yeh!

 sevy

 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


 Ok, will do. I also have to remove pidip from Pd-extended based on this
 license.

 .hc

 On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:18 AM, ydego...@free.fr wrote:

  jooo, que espeso ...

 i told you 1 times not to package my stuff,
 that i'm happy with the packages of goto10...

 so [EOC]


 ciao,
 sevy


 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


 Hey Lluis and Yves,

 I see that puredyne has packaged pidip, so it should be pretty easy to
 get it into Debian. The only problem is the license. If it was a straight
 BSD or GPL license, then it would be fine. The problem is this line:

 NOT FOR MILITARY OR REPRESSIVE USE !!!

 That isn't free according to the Debian Free Software Guidelines.

 .hc

 


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Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)

2010-12-08 Thread ALAN BROOKER
oops!Apologies Mathieu, it was meant for list, rather just an email to you
directly


I have all of those libraries installed, so I will download Gridflow again
shortly for those additions-  the object [#to_pdp] is working and and can
display output, so I am using that for meantime

Thanks to all for looking into this, it's great to have gridflow going
on L2Ork pd-extended for a good set up !


On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, ALAN BROOKER wrote:

  I have replaced  the g_canvas.h  with the version from L2Ork pd-extended
 and recomplided gridflow- yes it is stable now. However some objects are not
 loading/working specifically [#see] and [#out window].


 I am replying back to the list because it looks like your email doesn't
 have private content, even though you wrote it to just me.

 The problem with [#see] must have to do with changes specific to L2Ork. Do
 you get a crash ? It has to do with the NEWWB macro in src/classes_gui.cxx,
 which allocates a t_widgetbehavior, but does not set the 8th field. To do
 this in a way that is also compatible with pd-extended's g_canvas.h, we have
 to add a CLEAR(wb) right there (it's just a memset shortcut). I'm adding it
 now.

 [#out window] is an alias for any of the 3 main image display handlers :
 [#out x11], [#out sdl], [#out quartz]. (there are two more, [#out aalib] and
 [#see], that aren't accessible by [#out window]).

 To get [#out x11] working, you need to have enough .h files installed.
 Perhaps you need libx11-dev, libxext-dev, and/or libxt-dev. They're not
 listed in README. I'm adding them now.


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Undervine, data viz + sonification at SFMOMA

2010-12-03 Thread ALAN BROOKER
ok, are you two friends now then? ;)

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:18 AM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote:

 ok, it's proved now you're my old nationalist friend

 'new world'? with imported old mentality within..

 it's just too funny you post this here now..

 apart from that,
 i don't care of your commercials...

 ciao,
 sevy


 Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:


 Working again with Bobby Pietrusko and Stewart Smith, I created
 sonification for visualization of data about the global wine industry. It
 opened recently at SFMOMA in San Francisco. You can see a little snippet
 here:

 http://at.or.at/hans/undervine/

 And here's a chunk from a scene that didn't make the final cut be we like
 anyway:
 http://at.or.at/hans/blog/2010/11/21/highlighting-data-with-sound/

 Wine is a potent force in contemporary life, perhaps the only comestible
 to produce its own visual culture. How Wine Became Modern, the first
 exhibition of its kind, looks at the world of wine and the role that
 architecture, design, and media have played in its stunning transformation
 over the past three decades. Developed in collaboration with the New York
 architecture studio Diller Scofidio + Renfro, the exhibition features
 historical artifacts, architectural models, multimedia installations, newly
 commissioned artworks, and even a smell wall to provide a richly textured
 experience in the galleries. Come discover how important cultural
 preoccupations of our day, such as the meaning of place and authenticity
 in our increasingly global and virtual world, play out at this uniquely
 fertile intersection of nature and culture. At once a nuanced investigation
 and a vivid sensory and aesthetic experience, this exhibition presents wine
 as you've never seen it before.

 November 20, 2010 - April 17, 2011
 http://www.sfmoma.org/exhibitions/406

 http://www.sfmoma.org/press/releases/exhibitions/829


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Re: [PD] exporting PD patch part2

2010-12-01 Thread ALAN BROOKER
was it made with Gem ? I use pix_write to export a series of tiff of a Gem
animation and then join them together to create a movie file- but this is a
long method, do have a look at pix_record which may be better



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 hi

  one more quick question. i wrote an animator in PD that reads graphics
 from files and animates it. any way of exporting that as a movie file or
 something?

  thanks.

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Re: [PD] exporting PD patch

2010-11-30 Thread ALAN BROOKER
try this patch too

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote:


 Checkout the writesf~ object, you can just send audio to it, and write it
 to a file.

 .hc

 On Nov 30, 2010, at 4:42 PM, 2bad4...@london.com wrote:

 hello,

  i am wondering if there's a way of exporting the melody created in PD as
 a sound file, ex. mp3 or wav

  thanks in advance for any suggestions!

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#N canvas 1 52 450 300 10;
#N canvas 480 171 543 496 record 0;
#X obj 119 79 inlet~;
#X obj 265 79 inlet;
#X msg 235 243 start;
#X msg 465 210 stop;
#X obj 230 305 writesf~;
#X obj 264 153 sel 1;
#X obj 264 177 savepanel;
#X msg 315 242 open \$1;
#X obj 264 199 t b s;
#X connect 0 0 4 0;
#X connect 1 0 5 0;
#X connect 2 0 4 0;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 5 0 6 0;
#X connect 5 1 3 0;
#X connect 6 0 8 0;
#X connect 7 0 4 0;
#X connect 8 0 2 0;
#X connect 8 1 7 0;
#X restore -304 102 pd record;
#X obj -241 71 tgl 15 0 empty record empty 0 -6 0 10 -262144 -1 -1
0 1;
#X connect 1 0 0 1;
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