Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp 0.14.0
Thanks Tom! Going to compile... so good to get a new PDP in my set up On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Tom Schouten t...@zwizwa.be wrote: Hi List, Here's an update to PDP: http://zwizwa.be/pd/pdp/pdp-0.**14.0.tar.gzhttp://zwizwa.be/pd/pdp/pdp-0.14.0.tar.gz Changes: 0.14.0: Port ia32 MMX assembly code to GCC extensions (MMX support on amd64) Add V4L2 support to pdp_v4l (merge with pdp_v4l2) Distill system/zl (Zwizwa Lib) from PDP and libprim/PF code. The configure option --enable-mmx now uses GCC intrinsics which work on both 32 and 64 bit intel architectures. The old 32-bit only ASM routines are still available as --enable-asm-mmx. If you find a problem, post it here or at p...@zwizwa.be for a quicker response. Darcs repo is at http://zwizwa.be/darcs/pdp/ Enjoy! Tom ( Racketeers, be sure to check out some recent Pd DSP work in http://zwizwa.be/rai/ ) __**_ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-announcehttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid?
Hi Im sure there is something in the MTL abstractions: http://puredata.info/Members/mtl/index_html cant remember the name...sorry! On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 5:02 AM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.eduwrote: Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the problems with the license. It has great effects though Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A Asst. in Digital Art and Science Digital Worlds Institute University of Florida (352) 294-2020 On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Hi pd list, Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or have an alternative! Thanks Antonio -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] My personal GEM preview inside a patch...
nice work! 2013/6/24 Philippe Boisnard philem...@mac.com Le 24 juin 2013 à 20:20, Cyrille Henry a écrit : i can see the discution, but where is the patch? and is it fast enough to be usable? cheers c Le 24/06/2013 19:31, Philippe Boisnard a écrit : Yes arnaud courcelles have made today with datastructures you can find this on codelab.fr on this thread http://codelab.fr/4343 Le 24 juin 2013 à 18:25, Cyrille Henry a écrit : hello, it would really be useful to have an efficient pix_preview. did anyone try using data structure? would it be faster? i guess lluis pix_preview is the best option for now cheers c Le 23/06/2013 22:31, Olivier Baudu a écrit : I've received few messages asking me if it's a joke... :-° Well... It's a kind of joke because it is useless... (I redraw the GEM stream in hundred of 2x2 canvas) But it's not joke in the way that it really works on my laptop / Linux Mint DE / Pd-extended 0.43.4 / GEM 0.93 at 4 fps... Sorry if I've crashed your OS with my stuff... Cheers... 01ivier Le 23.06.2013 17:33, Olivier Baudu a écrit : Hi list, I want to share with you a big victory for me... :-p I've succeeded in visualizing image/video GEM stream inside my patch (at 4 fps !!). Well... You can't really do anything else when the automatic mode is on... :-D ... but I'm so proud, you know. Patch attached. Screenshot here : http://codelab.fr/4343#p23267 Cheers 01ivier ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PDP test release
./configure found m_pd.h now (I think) checking m_pd.h usability... yes checking m_pd.h presence... yes but have this error message #check if pd is installed. if this fails make install will stop here. test -d /usr/local/lib/pd install -d /usr/local/lib/pd/extra install -m 755 pdp.pd_linux /usr/local/lib/pd/extra install: cannot stat `pdp.pd_linux': No such file or directory make: *** [install] Error 1 thanks again! Alan On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Tom Schouten t...@zwizwa.be wrote: On 05/15/2013 05:18 PM, Alan Brooker wrote: Hi Tom Sorry to be a pain- but got his error @ sudo make install not a pain at all. thanks for the report. #check if pd is installed. if this fails make install will stop here. test -d /usr/lib/pd-extended/bin/lib/**pd make: *** [install] Error 1 I have Pd installed at usr/local/lib/pd (and also pd-extended usr/lib/pd-extended) already? as a quick fix, you could copy the m_pd.h to somewhere in your standard include path, i.e. to /usr/local/include these are the directories where configure looks for m_pd.h apart from the standard include path: $prefix/pd/src $prefix/src/pd/src ../src/ /usr/local/include/pd/ Where $prefix is what you give configure as: configure --prefix=... I wonder if there is a canonical way to do m_pd.h discovery these days. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem High def out put (stills ect)
Hi II am use Gem to create some 3d artworks I planning to have printed for framing/postcards etc.- would be grateful for any advice on way to save high quality/large images from the Gem window? Ways to achieve Anti aliasing (is this only for Nvidia graphics?), smoothing of edges and such. Thanks for the advice all, much appreciated. Alan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem High def out put (stills ect)
Thanks everyone for the suggestions [polygon_smooth] helps much. 09.SnapshotSaveHD looks like it could be what I need but it has me a bit stumped. I will try to connect it into my Gem scene but any tips would be welcome Thanks again for the feedback! On 11 Apr 2013, at 14:00, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: Le 11/04/2013 14:30, Alan Brooker a écrit : Hi II am use Gem to create some 3d artworks I planning to have printed for framing/postcards etc.- would be grateful for any advice on way to save high quality/large images from the Gem window? Ways to achieve Anti aliasing (is this only for Nvidia graphics?), smoothing of edges and such. Thanks for the advice all, much appreciated. Alan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Hello Alan, Have a look in examples section in Gem (from the help panel). There is '02.advanced/09.SnapshotSaveHD.pd'. There is no Anti aliasing, but after you can reduce the size of the picture with a software like Gimp to get something smooth. Or it is possible to use supersampling anti aliasing with two or more framebuffer, but you need a good graphic card for that. Hope '09.SnapshotSaveHD.pd' will work for you. ++ Jack ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] can't load gridflow 9.13 on Mountain Lion?
Hi Mathieu (main dev of Gridflow) isnt on the pd-list anymore- try signing up for the Gridflow mailing list to post your question http://lists.artengine.ca/mailman/listinfo/gridflow-dev AFAIK no work has been done on Gridflow since 2011 and it certainly isn't fully compatible with the latest Pd-extended-hopefully something is in the works soon. Best On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Tedb0t li...@liminastudio.com wrote: Hi all—I've been trying to install Gridflow, but it doesn't work entirely yet. I added the /Library/Pd/gridflow and /Library/Pd/gridflow/abstractions paths but when I try to (for instance) make a #redim object, I get: #redim ... couldn't create /Library/Pd/gridflow/gridflow.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Library/Pd/gridflow/gridflow.pd_darwin, 10): Library not loaded: @executable_path/../../lib/libpng12.0.dylib Referenced from: /Library/Pd/gridflow/gridflow.pd_darwin Reason: image not found [import]: can't load library in 'gridflow' and if I try to make (for instance) a #many object, I get a whole ton of ...couldn't creates but without further information. Am I doing something wrong? —t3db0t ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pure Data/Arduino course webpage
thanks for the great resource On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 6:51 PM, olsen raumkundschaf...@hasa-labs.orgwrote: Nice stuff - thanks for sharing John! On 05/14/2012 02:32 PM, John Harrison wrote: I thought it might be interesting and maybe even helpful if I shared the webpage for the Pure Data/Arduino audio/video course I just finished teaching. This was a one-semester undergraduate-level course I taught at Wichita State University. Most students were electrical/computer engineering students that had minimal applied experience with programming and circuitry before signing up for the course. Main course page: http://cratel.wichita.edu/**blogs/ee577aspring2012/http://cratel.wichita.edu/blogs/ee577aspring2012/ Student final projects with explanatory video and code: http://cratel.wichita.edu/**blogs/ee577aspring2012/** category/final-project-report-**video/http://cratel.wichita.edu/blogs/ee577aspring2012/category/final-project-report-video/ The web page for the course includes all assignments, my notes, schedule and a forum where students asked questions, shared cool projects they found, etc. One thing I wrote as an example for the students in the class was a color tracker which could track primary colors. I thought I saw a conversation on the list earlier were somebody was writing an external for color tracking, but at least primary colors can all be tracked in Gem. Maybe it's obvious but in case it's not: http://cratel.wichita.edu/**blogs/ee577aspring2012/forum2/** code-group3/pd-patches-forum4/**2-color-trackers-thread16/http://cratel.wichita.edu/blogs/ee577aspring2012/forum2/code-group3/pd-patches-forum4/2-color-trackers-thread16/ -John -- John Harrison http://alumni.media.mit.edu/~**harrisonhttp://alumni.media.mit.edu/~harrison __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [import] and libraries Pd ext
Hi Hans Sorry should have clarified- rather it is the dropping of start up prefs from Pd-extended as per below-- is there a page on the main website to refer to ? On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I just changed up the new single preference page for Pd-extended 0.43, hopefully its for the better. First off, there is no more Startup prefs, which allowed you to globally load libraries. Now, use [import] in your patch to load libraries. The Startup flags and Real-time scheduling are now added to the new preference panel. The OK and Apply buttons only apply the settings for the current session of Pd. In order to save them for the next time you start Pd, there is the Save All Settings button. But now that I look at that, the Save All Settings button might actually be redundant, and OK actually saves everything... Setting global paths should no longer be used for externals, instead you should use the standard install locations for your OS: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files Or you can set the path in your patch. Either use the new [path] object or [declare -path] to set a relative path in your patch. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Hey Alan, I'm not sure I know the change that you are speaking of. [import] is the same since at least 0.41. And yes, if a library is either included in Pd-extended or in the standard install folder, then [import] is all that is needed to load the library. .hc On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:03 AM, Alan Brooker wrote: Hi List, Please excuse me but is there a page on the puredata.info that details the change to the new way of loading libraries via the [import] and [declare] objects? I have had small bits of feedback and new users believe their libraries are not loading when the use of [import] is all that is needed? I'm sure I saw something written up about this but cant find it to reference to others Thanks Alan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [import] and libraries Pd ext
Hi List, Please excuse me but is there a page on the puredata.info that details the change to the new way of loading libraries via the [import] and [declare] objects? I have had small bits of feedback and new users believe their libraries are not loading when the use of [import] is all that is needed? I'm sure I saw something written up about this but cant find it to reference to others Thanks Alan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Hello PD List
also check out http://en.flossmanuals.net/pure-data/ http://www.pd-tutorial.com/ ...welcome to the list! On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:11 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, You can have a look at the Pd manual. Open Pd, then click Help and then Browser (or the shortcut ctrl-b). The look in Pure Data-1.manual and it will have a link to the index from which you can read the various chapters. Also have a look at 2.control.examples and got through the whole set of tutorials. That should give you a good feel for how to build Pd patches and edit/manipulate objects on a canvas. Finally have a look at 3.audio.examples. There are way too many tutorials to go through in one sitting, but it will at least give you an idea of what can be accomplished using the basic signal objects in Pd. Hope that helps, Jonathan From: speed wolf speedw...@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2012 6:41 PM Subject: [PD] Hello PD List Hi, This is my first post here. I'm very new to PD and am looking for some good beginners tutorials. I'm not a stranger to coding having been a web developer for a decade or so but I'm not used to visual programming environments and am finding it a little counter intuitive. Usually I do generative stuff with DVDs but I'm moving into a much more interactive space at the moment and need to learn some new skills so if anyone could offer a few pointers I'd be extremely grateful. You can look at some of my stuff here if the fancy takes you - http://www.petehaughie.com/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] New puredata.info styled online now!!
damn the Recent Changes section has been spamo -ed - selling 'antipsychotic' drugs and such ( hhhmmm maybe I should try that out :S ) On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:27 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: +1 thanks Marco...nice job! On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Roman Haefeli reduz...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Marco Though late, I still want to say that the new look is fresh. I like it. Nice Work! Roman ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?
Hi Claude Hey much thanks for the patch- lovely stuff- Im going to hack away and learn a few things---can I ask where did you get the frag shader from? Thanks again On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: That is really nice Claude. -Original Message- From: pd-list-boun...@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-boun...@iem.at] On Behalf Of Claude Heiland-Allen Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:02 AM To: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips? On 18/03/12 14:13, ALAN BROOKER wrote: Does anyone know of any examples of using Lua with Gem in anyway? Attached example uses a custom particle system in Lua that also keeps track of various parameters for a GLSL shader. Rather undocumented/hacky and might not work on any machine but mine... usual NO WARRANTY warning goes here... If you want to see how it should look after it fails to run on your machine: http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/v/gears/2012-01-14_gear_chain_v1.ogv (36MB) Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pdlua + Gem-any examples/tips?
Hi List, Does anyone know of any examples of using Lua with Gem in anyway? I'm interested in exploring the potential in using these two together-any start tips most welcome. Thanks ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] list etiquette
fuck no! Pd expands boundaries of what is music and art. Why expect any boundaries on the list? The same norm you're expecting might not be shared by other people who use the list too. Just wish to clarify what I think is being discussed here which is not necessary the language but how the language is used to against others in an abusive way. For instance Mr.Y makes an announcement and the first reply from Mr. X is fuck off. Or Mrs. V posts something to the list where the subject singles out another subscriber in a disparaging way and has nothing to do with Pd at all. This isn't heated debate. The norms I am expecting are the basics of just being civil, to act in the ways described above in person would be anti-social behaviour . I don't care for some things said on the list, but all you can really do is try to convince other people to see things your way. yes, your right here, that is all that can be done. Free thought and expression on the list takes president , but when someone is singled out unfairly or having abuse thrown at them it is something I feel the need to complain about. ..or maybe I'm just troll fodder :/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Tobacco (was: Web Netiquette (was: a book about libpd))
But the problem with cigarettes is smoking them. The companies selling them created the lifestyle and encouraged the craving. Basically everybody fell for that. Yeah one of the biggest cons going. As an ex smoker I can say the hardest thing for me is missing smoking itself. If one never took up the habit to start with, then the feeling of 'missing being able to smoke' would never be felt. It's not the craving per se but missing being able to take 5 minutes out here and there to have cigarette, that stays with you for a while. But saying that it's not that bad..where's my hooka? On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 6:45 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Le 2012-03-09 à 14:26:00, Py Fave a écrit : the problem with cigarettes is being able to make your own. The problem with cigarettes is smoking them. If it were not a problem, then the problem would be to grow them, because if you merely roll them, then you're still buying Drum tobacco and Riz Lacroix (RizLa+) paper from the same company as Gauloises, Gitanes and JPS, for example, which are all readymade, if that's the problem you have with them. But the problem with cigarettes is smoking them. The companies selling them created the lifestyle and encouraged the craving. Basically everybody fell for that. An association of ninety thousand smokers sues tobacco companies over health issues for 23 billion of $ right now. They deposited their request in 1999, and one should wonder why it took that long for the courts to accept launching the trial. In the end, the Cour Supérieure du Québec will start hearing them now. This makes it the largest anti-tobacco trial ever in Canada. http://www.ledevoir.com/societe/justice/344619/le-megaproces-du-tabac http://www.cyberpresse.ca/le-soleil/actualites/justice-et-faits-divers/201203/08/01-4503809-recours-collectif-des-victimes-du-tabac-le-proces-debute-13-ans-plus-tard.php (But this seems extremely underreported in canadian english-language media... you may only guess why that is.) Anyway... what you say has nothing to do with Julian's problem with cigarettes, and neither does what I'm saying now. __ | Mathieu BOUCHARD - téléphone : +1.514.383.3801 - Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is there a way to block/filter Mathieu ?
Mathieu's comments are usually made in the spirit of inquiry and debate- I enjoy reading them as much as all the other posts here, so I (respectfully) disagree with your comments have said about him. Previously I have filtered people from pd-list after complaining about them to admin (for being abusive) and this is something I have since regretted Overall, I think the tone of late has become too belligerent, lets get some good will together. Ta Alan 2012/3/9 András Murányi muran...@gmail.com: Sorry, I overlooked that you wanted to have the daily digest filtered. I guess the answer is no :) András ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Making Musical Apps: a book about libpd
the f bomb...really? telling the guy to f*ck off..what? really ? Unacceptable. On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 10:49 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com wrote: I think that's a bit uncalled for. It's not spam, the book is entirely relevant to the PD community since it centres on libpd, and the target audience for the book is very much similar to the subscriber base for this list. I don't see how that would be any different than advertising a concert for which you would have to pay an entrance fee of a workshop where you would need to pay to attend. - martin On 8 March 2012 22:40, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: Look, I'm sorry. I've attempted to ignore this... Fuck off. Spam merchant. There, said/done it. Julian On 8 March 2012 20:17, Shawn Wallace swall...@oreilly.com wrote: Hi all: Peter Kirn over at createdigitalmusic.com has a great review, interview and excerpt of the new O'Reilly book Making Musical Apps by Peter Brinkmann: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2012/03/pd-everywhere-free-libpd-gets-a-new-site-new-book-on-making-mobile-music-apps/ I've always thought that Pure Data on mobile devices (with the touchscreen and all the sensors) was a killer app. --Shawn --- Shawn Wallace O'Reilly Media (401) 835-7550 cell swall...@oreilly.com www.fluxly.com follow @fluxly ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Externals and Libiraries
Hi Barry Have you tried looking at the [import] and [path] objects? This is the way Externals and Libraries are loaded up in Pd now... so for instance if you wish to use [binflie] part of the mrpeach library in your patch: you would firstly create a [import mrpeach] object to load the library- and then create [binfile] object. I'm a bit fuzzy on [path] though-need to look at the help files more Hope this is clear and sorry if you know this already and the problem is something else altogether! Best On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 8:03 AM, barrydil...@eircom.net wrote: Hello PD List, I'm kind of new here, been luHi Barryrking for a while, though. I having a wee bit if difficulty gettting PD to start up correctly. I have included part of the verbose listing of the strar up process, as you can see none of the external file and libs are being loades in to PD. If I run the Audio and Midi test script, things seem ok. I'm using PD on a Sony laptop running Windows. My question is Can anyone offer any wee bit of advice as to how I might solve this problem. Thanks. Barry [import] $Revision: 1.2 $ [import] is still in development, the interface could change! compiled against Pd version 0.42.5 input channels = 2, output channels = 2 input device 4, channels 2 output device 4, channels 2 framesperbuf 64, nbufs 41 ... opened OK. tried .\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Windows\\Fonts\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\cyclone\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\zexy\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\creb\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\cxc\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\iemlib\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\list-abs\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\mapping\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\markex\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\maxlib\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\memento\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\mjlib\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\motex\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\oscx\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pddp\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pdogg\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pixeltango\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pmpd\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\rradical\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\sigpack\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\smlib\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\toxy\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\unauthorized\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\pan\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\hcs\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\jmmmp\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\ext13\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\ggee\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\flib\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\ekext\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\flatspace\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\externals\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\externals\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Common Files\\Pd\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Users\\nptebook\\Application Data\\Pd\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried C:\\Program Files (x86)\\pd\\extra\\libdir.m_i386 and failed tried .\\libdir.dll and failed tried C:\\Windows\\Fonts\\libdir.dll and failed ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem/Gridflow with PdDriod Party ...possible?
Hi list I've been playing around with the very excellent PdDriod Party and I was thinking if there was a way to have visuals incorpertated into the patchs with Gem/Gridflow? I am may tryout impeding libpd into a processing andriod sketch but wanted to just enquire about Gem/Gridflow :] Thanks all Alan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem/Gridflow with PdDriod Party ...possible?
thanks both curious to know what is possible -will check out that tutorial Cheers On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I've seen some signs of Android work in gridflow, plus dmotd was working on porting Gem to OpenGL ES, which would allow it to run on the minimum GPUs in phones. .hc On Mar 1, 2012, at 5:06 AM, berenger recoules wrote: Hi Alan from my knowledge it's not possible. Concerning the processing side of thins there is a library for processing useable on linux and mac, that uses Jack. It works great. They are working on making an android processing library. But right now you can't use libpd in processing to create apk from the processing IDE. Your best bet for now is eclipse+android sdk+libpd+processing, and there is a tutorial right here http://noisepages.com/groups/pd-everywhere/forum/topic/libpd-processing-android-tutorial/ Cheers Bérenger 2012/3/1 ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com Hi list I've been playing around with the very excellent PdDriod Party and I was thinking if there was a way to have visuals incorpertated into the patchs with Gem/Gridflow? I am may tryout impeding libpd into a processing andriod sketch but wanted to just enquire about Gem/Gridflow :] Thanks all Alan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] libpd, the book!
wow...should come to the Uk soon?---now I have an excuse to buy an Andriod phone :] On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Jamie Bullock ja...@postlude.co.uk wrote: Congratulations Peter. Just pre-ordered my copy! best, Jamie On 24 Feb 2012, at 01:42, Peter Brinkmann wrote: Hi, I'm happy to announce the release of my book on mobile audio development with libpd: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920022503.do The ebook version is available now; printed copies will be available from amazon.com next week. Cheers, Peter ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- feedback appreciated
Hi Im getting an error at ./configure claiming not tcl lib has been found: checking tcl.h usability... no checking tcl.h presence... no checking for tcl.h... no checking tcl8.7/tcl.h usability... no checking tcl8.7/tcl.h presence... no checking for tcl8.7/tcl.h... no checking tcl8.6/tcl.h usability... no checking tcl8.6/tcl.h presence... no checking for tcl8.6/tcl.h... no checking tcl8.5/tcl.h usability... no checking tcl8.5/tcl.h presence... no checking for tcl8.5/tcl.h... no checking tcl8.4/tcl.h usability... no checking tcl8.4/tcl.h presence... no checking for tcl8.4/tcl.h... no checking for tcl8.4/tcl.h... (cached) no checking tcl8.3/tcl.h usability... no checking tcl8.3/tcl.h presence... no checking for tcl8.3/tcl.h... no checking tcl8.2/tcl.h usability... no checking tcl8.2/tcl.h presence... no checking for tcl8.2/tcl.h... no no tcl header found bolding trying without... checking for main in -ltcl85... no checking for main in -ltcl8.5... no checking for main in -ltcl84... no checking for main in -ltcl8.4... no checking for main in -ltcl8.3... no checking for main in -ltcl8.2... no checking for main in -ltcl8.0... no no tcl library found but I do have tcl/wish installed: update-alternatives --config wishThere is only one alternative in link group wish: /usr/bin/wish8.5 Any advice would be appreciated Ab On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 6:08 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Fellow pd enthusiasts and devs, Apart from a couple of fixes of bugs that surfaced after we implemented infinite undo last month, as of this evening pd-l2ork has added another important feature: moving gop-ed objects via tag. This means that even a 10-point array will now be moved via gui with a single command with minimal changes to the core pd code, rather than redrawing the entire array every time the array is moved. Same goes for GOP objects and scalars. Needless to mention, this is the first time that my netbook allows me to move large arrays on screen as if they were simple objects :-) If interested, check out the git at https://github.com/pd-l2ork x86-64 and i386 builds coming up soon... I am uploading 64-bit builds as I type this, i386 should be up sometime tomorrow. In the meantime you can search older builds via L2Ork's website at http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56... Enjoy! Best wishes, -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Assistant Director, CCTAD Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) disis.music.vt.edu l2ork.music.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net ___ Pd-dev mailing list pd-...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] run commandline from within pd
perhaps try [shell] object (ggee lib I think) On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM, James Mckernon jmcker...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know if there is a simple way to run an outside command from inside pure data on linux? I'd really like it if I could just click a button from within pd to run 'xset -r' and 'xset r' to turn keyboard repeat off and on again respectively. Thanks! James ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] install Pd on ubuntu without internet; video-playback codec windows?
Hi If you really can not get internet access try using pure:dyne live cd http://puredyne.org/index.html it has pd +extras +all dependencies all ready to go on one cd [or at least that what is is working towards]. You put the cd in your drive and just re-boot, comes with loads of other stuff too, v handy distro Of course you need to download and then burn it to a disk it to begin with, so you may need to burrow a friend's pc internet connection to do this best Ab On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:24 PM, Kaj Ailomaa ailo...@gmail.com wrote: Why not plug it into the internet? You'll need to install at least tk8.5 and tcllib (or is it tvl8.5?) Linux without internet is pretty crippled when you're trying to install software. On 12/04/2011 01:36 AM, Johnny Mauser wrote: Dear list! i am trying to install pd-extended 0.42.5 on ubuntu 10.04 and am a total beginner with any linux. I was so happy to manage to install ubuntu, but now the Package Installer asks for more and more dependencies. My machine is not allowed to connect to internet, and i go crazy copying all the dependencies via usb stick from this internet-pc to performance-pc! How to easy-install Pd? I am trying linux, 'cause my patch has problems playing multible videos on windows. I use foto-jpeg decoded videos with quicktime for window, because i found that quicktime reads the framenumber correct instead of direct show. live-cam input is quite stable, but windows freezes from time to time with playback of 5 videos. I have quite a fast machine and an ssd drive which should be able to do the task i thought. So: which video format works well with windows? how do i get pd-extended on linux working? please exuse my confusion, too much operating system problems today; too less Pd... joson ___pd-l...@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] New album
good stuff 3 On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 2:10 PM, i go bananas hard@gmail.com wrote: sounds fantastic. has a much more 'compositional' sense than stuff i usually hear. On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Jerod Sommerfeldt sommerfeldt.je...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Pd community, I'd like to take the opportunity to share a link to my new album. All sounds were created and executed in Pd, as well as RTcmix. It's free, ready for download and hopefully your listening pleasure! Please enjoy! http://www.petcord.com/releases/pc2011-15-jerod-sommerfeldt-pareidolia/ My best, Jerod -- www.jerodsommerfeldt.com ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] OT: CSound for Live
Hi Good times if your an Live user, there's Max for Live too- Live is a nice piece of software-used it a few years ago briefly and some friends use it. Not too sure how csound will be implemented in Live but obviously there's csound for Pd ...and there's the thing...Pd offers the same plus more, as you know one could make there 'own' Live type environment from scratch with Pd with some effort. In fact did Live start out as just a big Max patch for sale? That is why dispite the fact I think's it's a nice/effective enviroment for those that choose to use it, but for me it's unconvincing when compared to what you can get from Pd. Just my thoughts! :) On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Marco Donnarumma de...@thesaddj.comwrote: best comment ever :) M On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Csound will never die. .hc On Oct 16, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote: any thought about this? http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/10/csound-for-live-the-power-of-csound-in-ableton-with-or-without-any-coding/ -- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams -- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] That Old No Sound Problem...
working with with OSS or Alsa? On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 10:26 PM, forrest curo treegest...@gmail.comwrote: Please excuse this question; it must come up all the time (?!) but I am one of those many people who don't get any sound from the test patch. - On linux... Jack is running; ChucK works... and pd comes out: device listing not implemented for jack yet no midi input devices found no midi output devices found in the Pd window. -- Jack pd are both set to sample rate of 48000. -- In the terminal, I have: priority 6 scheduling enabled. priority 8 scheduling enabled. jack_client_new: deprecated Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started. So please, somebody-- What's up with this? And what to do about it? (!) Forrest Curo (San Diego) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!
h looked at this briefly there is video4jack I have never tried it http://www.piksel.org/videojack but it sounds similiar to syphon (I think?) I dont think there are any gem objectswould be interesting to see it work...any thoughts? On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com wrote: hi list 1. what would be the equivalent in linux let's say ubuntu ? it's a frame server implementation? any way to redirect gem output ? 2. is it possible to output opengl data for recording and replay? 2011/10/11 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu This is really awesome it works pp From: Patrick Pagano p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:08:56 + To: vade dokt...@mac.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon Hey Vade I REALLY want to test this out Can you help me get it going? pp From: vade dokt...@mac.com Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:13:01 -0400 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon http://i.imgur.com/8Fxut.png http://code.google.com/p/syphon-implementations/source/detail?r=125 Currently, I am not reading in a pix_texture or the active GEM texture to publish, I am simply reading the screen, but its a useful feature to capture the entire scene as rendered so far (you can control what it captures by adjusting the gemhead layer ordering). Nor have I made a 'client' version that outputs a received texture from another app, but now that Hans Christoph helped me sort my XCode issues, I suspect with some help we can have a fully working Syphon implementation for GEM quickly enough. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd with syphon WORKS!
Actually I think there might be a pdp object look @ video piping http://www.piksel.no/pwiki/VideoPiping On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:02 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.comwrote: h looked at this briefly there is video4jack I have never tried it http://www.piksel.org/videojack but it sounds similiar to syphon (I think?) I dont think there are any gem objectswould be interesting to see it work...any thoughts? On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Py Fave pyf...@gmail.com wrote: hi list 1. what would be the equivalent in linux let's say ubuntu ? it's a frame server implementation? any way to redirect gem output ? 2. is it possible to output opengl data for recording and replay? 2011/10/11 Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu This is really awesome it works pp From: Patrick Pagano p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 16:08:56 + To: vade dokt...@mac.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon Hey Vade I REALLY want to test this out Can you help me get it going? pp From: vade dokt...@mac.com Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 00:13:01 -0400 Cc: pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] pd with syphon http://i.imgur.com/8Fxut.png http://code.google.com/p/syphon-implementations/source/detail?r=125 Currently, I am not reading in a pix_texture or the active GEM texture to publish, I am simply reading the screen, but its a useful feature to capture the entire scene as rendered so far (you can control what it captures by adjusting the gemhead layer ordering). Nor have I made a 'client' version that outputs a received texture from another app, but now that Hans Christoph helped me sort my XCode issues, I suspect with some help we can have a fully working Syphon implementation for GEM quickly enough. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pidip pdp_vloopback error
Hi One thing that always caught me out was loading the pidip binary before Gem or PDP, go to mediapreferencesstart up and make sure Gem PDP are loaded on the list first before pidip hope this makes sense best Al On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Ricardo Brazileiro rbrazile...@gmail.comwrote: hello, i think i have problems in pidip library after compile pd-extended in ubuntu-11.04 64bits. PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.6 /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: pdp_vloopback_setup pidip: can't load library any suggestions? -- ricardo brazileiro http://rbrazileiro.info ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Steel Construction Event on puredata.info (??)
Hi List Saw this on the events section of the front page http://puredata.info: China (Guangzhou) International Exhibition for Steel Construction Metal Building Materials 2012 Interesting, but not sure what it has to do with Pd- maybe spam? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.43 windows 7 installation
Hi Hans, Thanks for the help with this but I now get the same error message except it now says 'libstd++-6.dll is missing...' Im downloading from here BTW http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest Thanks again On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 8:20 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: By the way, I added libpthread-2.dll and libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll to Pd-extended 0.43, please try it again and see if it works now. http://pure-data.svn.**sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-** data?view=revisionrevision=**15285http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revisionrevision=15285 .hc On Sep 6, 2011, at 10:07 AM, Patrice Colet wrote: - Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca a écrit : -static-libstdc++ is not in gcc in Ubuntu 10.10 (« gcc version 4.4.5 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.4.4-14ubuntu5) ») Is it a MinGW-only feature ? I don't think so $ gcc -v Using built-in specs. COLLECT_GCC=C:\MinGW\bin\gcc.**exe COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=c:/mingw/**bin/../libexec/gcc/mingw32/4.** 5.2/lto-wrapper.exe Target: mingw32 Configured with: ../gcc-4.5.2/configure --enable-languages=c,c++,ada,** fortran,obj c,obj-c++ --disable-sjlj-exceptions --with-dwarf2 --enable-shared --enable-libgo mp --disable-win32-registry --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-version-specific-r untime-libs --disable-werror --build=mingw32 --prefix=/mingw Thread model: win32 gcc version 4.5.2 (GCC) too, if I'm not mistaken. E.g. could it solve the libstdc++ problem that we were having with Gem, GridFlow, ATI drivers, and perhaps some other drivers or libs ? what problem? __**__** ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC -- Patrice Colet __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list --**--** http://at.or.at/hans/ __**_ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/** listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] pd-extended 0.43 windows 7 installation
Hi List Sony Vaio, intel i3-370 2.4 Im trying to install pd-extended 0.43 on windows 7 on a new machine, however when I run the application I get the following error *The program can't start because libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll is missing from you computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem.* I thought it could be because I didnt have mingw installed (GNU Compiler Collection)- but installing it doesn't solve the issue? If any one has any advice on reolsing this and running PD would be grateful :0 Thanks All ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended 0.43 windows 7 installation
Hi Patrice, Thanks , I got this from the 04/09 nightly builds file: Pd-0.43.1-extended-windowsxp-i386 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Patrice Colet colet.patr...@free.frwrote: Hello, where did you get pd-extended installation from? adding -static-libgcc to CFLAGS in win32 build farm should resolve this problem. - ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com a écrit : Hi List Sony Vaio, intel i3-370 2.4 Im trying to install pd-extended 0.43 on windows 7 on a new machine, however when I run the application I get the following error The program can't start because libgcc_s_dw2-1.dll is missing from you computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem. I thought it could be because I didnt have mingw installed (GNU Compiler Collection)- but installing it doesn't solve the issue? If any one has any advice on reolsing this and running PD would be grateful :0 Thanks All ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrice Colet ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Balloon Project
3 cool! On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com wrote: Here's documentation of a small project using balloons, a kinect, and PD: http://danomatika.com/blog/balloon-project/ Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.1
Iohannes, cheers for the bug fix! On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:27 PM, Pagano, Patrick p...@digitalworlds.ufl.edu wrote: Is there a how-to for compiling GEM on OSX? I really want to get started with frei0r and freeframe pp ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Segmentation fault Gem 0.93 pix_delay, pix_motionblur, pix_colormatrix, pix_frei0r
Hi, Kubuntu (Maverick) linux, PD 0.43 with new Gem 0.93 Im having issues with the pix objects that I believe specifically relate to video files ( such as pix_delay, pix_motionblur, pix_colormatrix, pix_frei0r) I can create the objects in the canvas, but when I click to open a help file, PD crashes and I get the message below in the terminal load plugins 'film' in '/home/alanb/pd-externals/Gem/' pattern : /home/alanb/pd-externals/Gem/gem_film*.so dylib loading file '/home/alanb/pd-externals/Gem/gem_filmMPEG3.so'! dylib loading file '/home/alanb/pd-externals/Gem/gem_filmQT4L.so'! Segmentation fault The Gem help patches that relate to pics such as jpg etc are fine. [pix_movie] and [pix_film] help patches come up but the auto play doesn't not work- using a number box to move the frames works however (if is was to send a metro then it would play fine) but not the auto play. Have these issues been replicated with anyone else or any advice to resolve ? Thanks all -appreciate any comments and the continued hard work on Gem Pd. Al ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] gem 0.93.0
Thanks for all the hard work on this! 2011/8/26 IOhannes zmölnig zmoel...@iem.at: after long years of waiting (foir you) and hard labour (for me), Gem 0.93 has been released today. large parts of the underlying engine have been re-written to give you a better experience! binaries are available for w32 (installer zip), for the brave and adventurous there is the source code. binaries for OSX and not available yet, but we hope to get them online soonish. grab it while it's hot: http://gem.iem.at/releases/0.93.0 alternatively you can get the files from https://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem highlights == Objects --- frei0r video plugins support - [mesh], [surface3d],... - [separator] now takes arguments to define which stacks to push/pop documentation - - numerous bigfixes and improvements extra - - [pix_fiducialtrack] is no more part of Gem (but comes bundled with Gem) - [pix_artoolkit] fiducial tracking using ARToolKit - [pix_drum], [pix_mano]: Jaime Olivier's analysis objects! plugins --- image acquisition is now factored out into plugins this means that you can e.g. easily add new image acquisition methods to the existing [pix_video], [pix_film] and [pix_image] objects - still image loading/saving now uses plugins on all platforms on w32 you can now use ImageMagick and/or QuickTime for loading/saving images, which greatly increases the number of supported formats. you now get programmatic feedback on image loading success... - video acquisition now uses plugins on all platforms uniform way to get or set properties/attributes/controls, like hue, saturation, shutter-speed, pan,... working DV support (on linux) V4L also works with newer kernels (that dropped v4l) support for IIDC support for industrial grade GigE cameras using 3rd party libraries such as PYLON, Halcon or AVT's PvAPI experimental UNICAP support - film acquisition now uses plugins on all platforms (you could use gmerlin on w32 or osx...) - recording (film output) now uses plugins on all platforms support for V4L2 (and V4L) loopback devices, in order to generate a fake live video from your Gem window - use itfor recording, streaming,... settings global local settings files to modify the overall behaviour of Gem you don't like Gem's default framerate, windowsize, font, texture mode,...? change it once and for all internals - - API: this is the first Gem with a public API: a selection of headers that you can use to write your own Gem-plugins build-system - build system: completely switched to a proper autotools - openGL: updated bundled GLEW - source organization: re-organized the entire source tree for hopefully better maintainability lowlights = i need an OSX developer willing to spend some time in getting image acquisition and windowing to work on OSX=10.6 (x86_64) mfga,dsra IOhannes ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] arrowheads on cords plugin
cool... like this ...thanks Hans! On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: Thanks for the bug report. This version should fix that: .hc On Aug 16, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Daniel Roviriego wrote: forgot to mention the arrowheads are working, besides the error message: Using Ubuntu 10.10. Tcl version 8.5.8-2build1 and tk version 8.5.8-1 cheers 2011/8/16 Daniel Roviriego daniferna...@gmail.com Hi Hans.. Iḿ getting this error trying to use the plugin invalid command name .gfxstub8566bd8.c invalid command name .gfxstub8566bd8.c while executing $tkcanvas itemconfigure cord -arrow none (procedure add_arrows_to_cords line 8) invoked from within add_arrows_to_cords .gfxstub8566bd8 (command bound to event) cheers 2011/8/16 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at I whipped up a quick plugin to add arrowheads to cord when in editmode. The arrowheads clearly show the direction that the messages are flowing. .hc Computer science is no more related to the computer than astronomy is related to the telescope. -Edsger Dykstra ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Daniel Roviriego (21) 35920701 (21) 99561654 M2D multi_meios -- Daniel Roviriego (21) 35920701 (21) 99561654 M2D multi_meios ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] #store and getting pixel data from a movie file
Hey Mathieu, Thanks for the tips much appreciated, I'm going to to work on something to extract sounds from video movements/colours basically. I've done this in Gem with pix_data pdp with pdp_cog - trying out gridflow as I think there could be more ways of extracting values to explore I dont think gridflow likes the mp4 suffix? the console displays [gf/io_generate 1012in] unknown suffix 'mp4' .Changing the suffix file manually from mp4 to .mov seems to resolve the issue though Thanks again On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Tue, 23 Aug 2011, ALAN BROOKER wrote: I hope to ask for some tips regarding obtaining values from a loaded image/movie file by using gridflow ? #store gets can get rgb values from a specified pixel position You can pass multiple pixel positions at once to #store and it's much faster than getting pixels one by one. Those multiple pixel positions can in turn be organised in rows and columns so that you can make a new image by picking 10 pixels in a single step, for example. but any advice on getting the whole dimensions at once What does that mean ? (or any other techniques in getting gridflow to output values from a movie file such as movement, luminosity or anything)? some kind of luminosity is what you get when you convert to greyscale. You may use [#rgb_to_greyscale]. Movement can be a lot of different things. The easiest one is to subtract each frame with the previous one. Then you can know the change of luminosity from one image to the other, or the change of each channel. You do that using [t a a] and [# -] (plain diff) or [# sq-] (squared diff) or [# abs-] (absolute diff). You can also identify regions or compute mean positions of things and then look at the position differences. Sometimes I did that using [#moment] and then [t a a] and [# -]. Note that often the same tools work on different kinds of data (pixel colours vs pixel positions). This is a feature of GridFlow which is not found in other image-processors of Pd (GEM/PDP/etc). There are also algorithms to make a map of all translations (move) of pixels in the picture, but they have not incorporated in GridFlow. ...also is there support for mp4 in gridflow? the file format being the same as mov (I think?) GF uses Quicktime.framework (by Apple) on OSX, and libquicktime (by H.W. Plaum) on Linux and now also on OSX. Nearly all video file format support rests upon that. GF also can run libmpeg3, but that's a MPEG1/MPEG2 decoder without plugins. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] #store and getting pixel data from a movie file
Hi I hope to ask for some tips regarding obtaining values from a loaded image/movie file by using gridflow ? #store gets can get rgb values from a specified pixel position but any advice on getting the whole dimensions at once (or any other techniques in getting gridflow to output values from a movie file such as movement, luminosity or anything)? ...also is there support for mp4 in gridflow? the file format being the same as mov (I think?) Thanks all for any thoughts ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow path / startup the helpbrowser on multiple systems
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 8:25 PM, rene beekman r...@raakvlak.net wrote: OK, I'm confused. I have the latest versions of Gridflow installed on both Mac OS 10.6 and Ubuntu 10.4 and I'm having a problem configuring the Ubuntu installation the way I want it to work (somehow, the Mac installation does exactly what I need - intended or not - while Ubuntu is being stubborn). I want to load the Gridglow library only through [import gridflow] (mostly because it conflicts with [range] which I do use a lot - that's a topic for a different discusion), but I also want to have the gridflow help files accesible from the helpbrowser. try doing it manually : copy the gridflow help folder and place it /usr/lib/pd/doc and next time you load up pd it will be in the help browser There is probably a better way of doing tho Both systems have Pd-extended 0.42.5 installed. On both systems, I have paths set to .../gridflow/abstractions and .../gridflow/depricated (this seems to be part of the Gridflow setup? because I don't remember having set these manually) On both systems, there is no gridflow entry in Startup. On the Mac, [import gridflow] works. On Ubuntu, it generates a can't load library in 'gridflow' error. I can only get Gridflow to load if I add the path to it to Startup. On the Mac, all Gridflow help files show up in the helpbrowser, under a separate directory. On Ubuntu, the Gridflow help files do not show up at all. How do I make the Ubuntu installation behave as if it was a Mac ? :) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com wrote: You're right, no one ever said that. Even me. Did you actually look at the patch? It is a technological parody of record scratching. It perfectly fits the definition given on this list. If you don't think so, then please tell me what you can do with that patch that's so musically interesting that it would warrant buying a modern digital computer instead of a turntable. Well, one might want to connect the sampler patch to another patch that produces a contrasting sound, they both would share the same values sent to the atom to change pitches ect. Don't you think to say a patch that emulates scratching sounds from audio samples is a technological parody of a scratching record player, is a bit like saying a patch that emulates the sound of the piano is a technological parody of a piano (they are both instruments)?. I think one purpose of audio software to emulate instruments ? Regarding if it is musically interesting, I'm v. sure you know record scratching is(was?) used as an instrument in hip hop and such. If a purpose of audio software is emulation of physical instruments then I don't think it should be labeled as a technological parody. Otherwise you could use the argument 'why have a computer when I can buy a physical instrument' every time? Just sharing thoughts really, interesting topic. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] t-shirt
Hey- that good- like the sticker On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:38 AM, patrick pured...@11h11.com wrote: hi everyone, i designed a simple t-shirt / sticker for pd: http://goo.gl/KgRsn (t-shirt) http://goo.gl/AyXt0 (sticker) here's a photo of the actual t-shirt (attached). the final version of the design is smaller (looks better). here's the python script i used to produce the design. cheers! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] When the bubbles exploded, they tickled the bath.
Hi maybe [+bubbler~] part of soundhack externals will be do? http://www.soundhack.com/externs.php On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com wrote: I guess the question isn't that simple... 2011/5/25 Pierre Massat pimas...@gmail.com Hi All! A very simple question : if you wanted an audio source to sound as if it was played underwater and modulated everytime a bubbled reached the surface, how would you go about it? Convolution? I don't anything about it... Cheers! Pierre ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [Gridflow-dev] [gemdead]
Hey Jack cheers! that's what I needed :) Love the [#see] object, beyond it's practical use I just like having visual output on the same space as the patch Think I checked out pdvjtools before but could get it to compile-while try again On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: I've just come across [pix-preview], which is part of the pdvjtools package http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/lib/exe/detail.php?id=start%3Apuredata_pdvjtoolsmedia=start:pix_preview_help_patch.png Looks like it does similar to [gem_see] object that was just created... On 30 April 2011 20:06, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: This is amazing, thanks to you both! Ant On 30 April 2011 18:05, Jack j...@rybn.org wrote: Something like this could help. ++ Jack Le samedi 30 avril 2011 à 12:06 +0100, ALAN BROOKER a écrit : Hey Ant, This can definitely be done- I was working on/off on a sort of ' #see for gem' but haven't perfected it yet. The method is to render 3d objects into a buffer to pix object then to #from_pix. Mathieu may know of a more efficient way of doing this tho The attached patch (if it doesn't work when first opened, close then re-open and should work) is what I was working on. As mentioned it's a work in progress and I could probably do with some efficiency tips here too! All the best Al On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Thanks and sorry that I didn't stick around to get the reply on IRC. Secondly, can the cube be rendered to an [#out window] object? I know [#from_pix] can handle [pix_] objects, and I've tried using a [cube] as a [pix_texture] that I can then send to [#from_pix] but no luck so far Ant On 30 April 2011 01:04, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: from irc #dataflow : hellocatfood Is it possible to use [gemdead] with objects such as [cube] and [sphere] in gridflow? In theory, I said no, but actually, [gemdead] doesn't prevent you from using OpenGL elements, and things like [cube] and [sphere] don't check at all whether they're given a real [gemhead] context, and don't seem to be doing much that is related to it, therefore : [gemhead] | [b] | [gemdead] | [cube] will really draw the cube as if you had done : [gemhead] | [cube] I suspect that very few Gem object classes really depend on an authentic GemState (one that was really created by [gemwin]). When you do find exceptions, please tell me. But you may have to use [gemhead] anyway (as in the above example) as long as [gemwin] decides when to clear the buffer and when to copy the buffer to the screen, just because [gemwin] uses [gemdead] to say when it's the time to draw. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Gridflow-dev mailing list gridflow-...@lists.artengine.ca http://lists.artengine.ca/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/gridflow-dev ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] gui plug-ins not loading in new install
Thanks Yvan, I was installing in the wrong place( usr/lib/pd/startup) -put it in the local folder (home/pd-externals) and all is good- Thanks again Al On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:06 PM, yvan volochine yvan...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/12/2011 11:53 PM, ALAN BROOKER wrote: Hope I can ask for some advice? I have a fresh Kubuntu (Lucid) and Pd extended 0.43 (from nightly builds) install-Ive put the GUI plug-ins in start up but getting error messages on start up : '/usr/lib/pd/startup/buttonbar-plgincant load startup library'! Any advice would be appreciated-thanks as stated here: http://puredata.info/docs/guiplugins You can install a plugin anywhere you would install an external, abstraction or help patch and then How do I install externals and help files? http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files cheers, _y ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Adding Gridflow to the visual arsenal
Hi Patrick, check out the help patch [gl/gf]- it details using Gridflow to create openGL commands using Gem- good for making interesting Gem shapes movements I made a patch using this object myself- will dig it out from my laptop if you like cheers Al On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen cla...@goto10.org wrote: On 17/05/11 15:32, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Does anyone have any how to patches for bridging GEM/Gridflow/pdp/pidip? gridflow has bridges to PDP and Gem: #to_pdp #from_pdp #to_pix #from_pix gridflow must be loaded after pdp/Gem for the bridge to be loaded: $ pd -lib pdp:Gem:gridflow an example patch for the Gem bridge: gridflow/examples/game_of_life_gem.pd Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Adding Gridflow to the visual arsenal
ahh just to clarify that it is [gf/gl] not the other way around :) On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:21 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Patrick, check out the help patch [gl/gf]- it details using Gridflow to create openGL commands using Gem- good for making interesting Gem shapes movements I made a patch using this object myself- will dig it out from my laptop if you like cheers Al On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Claude Heiland-Allen cla...@goto10.org wrote: On 17/05/11 15:32, Pagano, Patrick wrote: Does anyone have any how to patches for bridging GEM/Gridflow/pdp/pidip? gridflow has bridges to PDP and Gem: #to_pdp #from_pdp #to_pix #from_pix gridflow must be loaded after pdp/Gem for the bridge to be loaded: $ pd -lib pdp:Gem:gridflow an example patch for the Gem bridge: gridflow/examples/game_of_life_gem.pd Claude ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] gui plug-ins not loading in new install
Hi List, Hope I can ask for some advice? I have a fresh Kubuntu (Lucid) and Pd extended 0.43 (from nightly builds) install-Ive put the GUI plug-ins in start up but getting error messages on start up : '/usr/lib/pd/startup/buttonbar-plgincant load startup library'! Any advice would be appreciated-thanks cheers Al ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [gemdead]
Hey Ant, This can definitely be done- I was working on/off on a sort of ' #see for gem' but haven't perfected it yet. The method is to render 3d objects into a buffer to pix object then to #from_pix. Mathieu may know of a more efficient way of doing this tho The attached patch (if it doesn't work when first opened, close then re-open and should work) is what I was working on. As mentioned it's a work in progress and I could probably do with some efficiency tips here too! All the best Al On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 10:19 AM, Antonio Roberts anto...@hellocatfood.com wrote: Thanks and sorry that I didn't stick around to get the reply on IRC. Secondly, can the cube be rendered to an [#out window] object? I know [#from_pix] can handle [pix_] objects, and I've tried using a [cube] as a [pix_texture] that I can then send to [#from_pix] but no luck so far Ant On 30 April 2011 01:04, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: from irc #dataflow : hellocatfood Is it possible to use [gemdead] with objects such as [cube] and [sphere] in gridflow? In theory, I said no, but actually, [gemdead] doesn't prevent you from using OpenGL elements, and things like [cube] and [sphere] don't check at all whether they're given a real [gemhead] context, and don't seem to be doing much that is related to it, therefore : [gemhead] | [b] | [gemdead] | [cube] will really draw the cube as if you had done : [gemhead] | [cube] I suspect that very few Gem object classes really depend on an authentic GemState (one that was really created by [gemwin]). When you do find exceptions, please tell me. But you may have to use [gemhead] anyway (as in the above example) as long as [gemwin] decides when to clear the buffer and when to copy the buffer to the screen, just because [gemwin] uses [gemdead] to say when it's the time to draw. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list #N canvas 307 24 767 658 10; #X obj 425 -112 pix_buffer \$0-framebuffer 2; #X text 187 -230 you can render a scene into a framebuffer \, then take a snapshot of the framebuffer with [pix_snap] and use this as an ordinary pix (where you can apply effects and all kind of weird things); #X obj 181 214 cnv 15 250 130 empty empty empty 20 12 0 14 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 265 42 cnv 15 150 150 empty empty Gem_scene 20 12 0 14 -233017 -66577 0; #X obj 206 -4 gemframebuffer; #X obj 273 106 rotateXYZ; #X obj 186 50 t a a b; #X obj 293 68 i; #X obj 326 67 + 1; #X obj 356 66 % 360; #X obj 188 228 t a b; #X msg 220 249 snap; #X obj 188 297 t a b; #X msg 402 302 1; #X obj 188 322 pix_buffer_write \$0-framebuffer; #X obj 516 81 t a b; #X msg 571 82 1; #X obj 464 131 pix_buffer_read \$0-framebuffer; #X obj 488 243 square 3; #X obj 185 23 translateXYZ 0 0 -4; #X obj 188 273 pix_snap 0 0 256 256; #X floatatom 332 88 5 0 0 1 MOVE_HERE - -; #X text 424 -95 temporary storage; #X text 236 226 later usage; #X text 235 211 snapshot and store image for; #X obj 486 210 pix_image; #X obj 562 295 #dim; #X obj 562 314 display; #X obj 613 -13 gemdead; #X obj 621 -61 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -4034 -1 -1 1 1 ; #X obj 502 274 #from_pix \, colorspace rgba; #X msg 199 129 draw line; #X obj 379 157 / 255; #X floatatom 362 112 5 0 0 1 MOVE_HERE_TOO - -; #X obj 272 138 color 1 0 0.31; #X obj 671 152 #see 1; #X obj 620 -40 metro 35; #X obj 610 -98 loadbang; #X msg 208 168 draw fill; #X obj 204 -160 loadbang; #X obj 482 362 #out window; #X msg 219 -93 0; #X msg 194 -134 create \, 1; #X msg 280 -99 destroy; #X msg 309 -166 dimen 1 1; #X obj 273 183 teapot; #X obj 214 -51 gemwin; #X connect 4 0 19 0; #X connect 5 0 34 0; #X connect 6 0 10 0; #X connect 6 1 5 0; #X connect 6 2 7 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 7 0 5 1; #X connect 7 0 5 2; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 7 1; #X connect 10 0 20 0; #X connect 10 1 11 0; #X connect 11 0 20 0; #X connect 12 0 14 0; #X connect 12 1 13 0; #X connect 13 0 14 1; #X connect 15 0 17 0; #X connect 15 1 16 0; #X connect 16 0 17 1; #X connect 17 0 25 0; #X connect 18 0 30 0; #X connect 19 0 6 0; #X connect 20 0 12 0; #X connect 21 0 5 3; #X connect 25 0 18 0; #X connect 26 0 27 0; #X connect 28 0 15 0; #X connect 28 0 4 0; #X connect 29 0 36 0; #X connect 30 0 26 0; #X connect 30 0 35 0; #X connect 30 0 40 0; #X connect 31 0 45 0; #X connect 32 0 45 1; #X connect 33 0 32 0; #X connect 34 0 45 0; #X connect 36 0 28 0; #X connect 36 0 46 0; #X connect 37 0 29 0; #X connect 38 0 45 0; #X connect 39 0 42 0; #X connect 39 0 41 0; #X connect 39 0 44 0; #X connect 41 0 46 0; #X connect 42 0 46 0; #X connect 43 0 46 0; #X connect 44 0 46 0; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and
Re: [PD] [OT]: An inflaming video posted on list [WAS]: Re: Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments
hmmmWhat is the context of the Musilini video? On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote: As I'm also writing from Italy, I thought I'd just spend a couple of words about this although it's pretty much off-topic, also hoping the original poster might shed a little light on this. Pagano, Patrick wrote: I agree that Mussolini should not be a favorite but it's simply a way to access files for later recall. Mhh, well.. I think favourite has a very precise meaning, using favourite as bookmark seems strange. On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Husk, Hi Martin First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post than Simon's, just so that you know. I agree that husk's reaction was maybe a bit too strong, but you have to consider that most people (including myself) are quite sensitive to Mussoini here in Italy, especially these days. [...] I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon personally and I can vouch for him. Good to hear that Maybe would be good to read it directly from him :) The Mussolini video is not something that he posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no need to jump to conclusions. Ok we'll grant him benefit of doubt (but see my considerations on favourite - of course if his account was hacked/spammed he has all my simpathy). That said although I'm as much for freedom of ideas and speech I admit having a very strong bias towards someone openly (or less openly) pro-fascism, pro fascist revisionism (the intent of historically softening fascism), neo-fascism et. sim. even in a 'mild' way. I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that. See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this stange days in Italy. @ Husk... I agree with you. I think you (we) should be enraged in the same way (I am) with all the La storia di Mussolini, La storia del fascismo and similar shit they periodically sell in news-shops with large publicity on TV etc. and probably make big money with. BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right? See above. My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list. I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and collective discussions (and conflicts too) Hopefully this was just some misunderstanding and we can all happily go back to our Pd-ing :) Lorenzo. cheers husk -- when Art become pratical, we call it technology, when Technology become useless we call it Art Song hojun www.estereotips.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [OT]: An inflaming video posted on list [WAS]: Re: Touchscreen Kiosk audio experiments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA8Uav7EPlQ On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 2:03 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: hmmmWhat is the context of the Musilini video? On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 7:46 AM, Lorenzo Sutton lsut...@libero.it wrote: As I'm also writing from Italy, I thought I'd just spend a couple of words about this although it's pretty much off-topic, also hoping the original poster might shed a little light on this. Pagano, Patrick wrote: I agree that Mussolini should not be a favorite but it's simply a way to access files for later recall. Mhh, well.. I think favourite has a very precise meaning, using favourite as bookmark seems strange. On Apr 13, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Martin Dupras martindup...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Husk, Hi Martin First of all, I'm a pd-list subscriber and I'm more offended by your post than Simon's, just so that you know. I agree that husk's reaction was maybe a bit too strong, but you have to consider that most people (including myself) are quite sensitive to Mussoini here in Italy, especially these days. [...] I abhor fascism in all its forms. Having said that, I know Simon personally and I can vouch for him. Good to hear that Maybe would be good to read it directly from him :) The Mussolini video is not something that he posted. It is on his channel but as a favorite. It could very well be spam from someone else, or he might have linked to it because it is a piece of media that he discusses in one of his classes. Once again, there is no need to jump to conclusions. Ok we'll grant him benefit of doubt (but see my considerations on favourite - of course if his account was hacked/spammed he has all my simpathy). That said although I'm as much for freedom of ideas and speech I admit having a very strong bias towards someone openly (or less openly) pro-fascism, pro fascist revisionism (the intent of historically softening fascism), neo-fascism et. sim. even in a 'mild' way. I jumped to wrong conclusion maybe and I feel sorry for that. See a Mussolini video set myself on fire. For many reason after this stange days in Italy. @ Husk... I agree with you. I think you (we) should be enraged in the same way (I am) with all the La storia di Mussolini, La storia del fascismo and similar shit they periodically sell in news-shops with large publicity on TV etc. and probably make big money with. BTW I don't get how a Mussolini video can ends on favourite video in my youtube channel. Is this youtube page Simon's channel right? See above. My personal opinion is that you should have emailed Simon and asked him privately before rubbishing him on the mailing list. I don't think so, because I believe in constructive public and collective discussions (and conflicts too) Hopefully this was just some misunderstanding and we can all happily go back to our Pd-ing :) Lorenzo. cheers husk -- when Art become pratical, we call it technology, when Technology become useless we call it Art Song hojun www.estereotips.net ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Latest pd-extended 0.43 autobuild on WinXp
ah... I had the same problem with Ubuntu on a fresh install after upgrading to 10.10 On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM, martin.pe...@sympatico.ca wrote: It seems that the latest version of pd-extended from http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2011-04-01/ can't instantiate the internals, but the externals seem to work. Any idea why? (I removed all previous versions from the computer.) Martin ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] patch dans patch (5ième partie)
one of my favourites: http://gridflow.ca/gallery/patch_dans_patch_8.png I might try some myself! On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:14 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011, chr wrote: great-code-art !!! More coming soon. This series is several weeks old even though I posted it only this friday night, and in the meantime I had already started a new series. You will see that it's completely different again. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] text3d on new Macbook Pro
Hi Does text2d work? It could be fonts haven't been loaded into Gem On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 1:13 PM, James Dunn ja...@4thharmonic.com wrote: Hi list, does anyone know how to get text3d working properly on the new Macbook Pro? It's the 8,1 model with Intel HD Graphics 3000 running 10.6.6 and Pd-extended 0.42.5. Is there a driver that needs to be installed? thanks James ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Am I a phone?
Wow that's a good result! I haven't got an iAnything at the moment but would love to hear the audio for this... This may have been asked before but is there a possibility to run Pd on Andriod? On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner I didn't realize that Inception now has 3,000,000 downloads! That means Pd is on 3,000,000 iThings... .hc ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Am I a phone?
An interesting web discussion on mobile games Pd PureData and Mobile Phone Games Sound: http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/5944/puredata-and-mobile-phone-games-sound ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] cannot get pix_record to work
You could use use the gridflow object [#from_pix] to [#out] as Mathieu mentioned to record Gem stuff too On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Thu, 24 Mar 2011, Husk 00 wrote: I use #record from gridflow. It's not Gem, I know, but it's a good solution (thanks Mathieu) cheers husk I don't remember whether I said the following already, but I don't use [#record] and didn't write [#record]. I find it more convenient to be using [#out] directly, as it makes it easy to write down your settings in your own patch, like this : [open stuff.mov, framerate 25, codec jpeg, parameter jpeg_quality 67( | [#out] or if you really want to loadbang it, there's a single-box shortcut : [#out stuff.mov, framerate 25, codec jpeg, parameter jpeg_quality 67] but I don't use this shortcut often, because I want to avoid some potential accidents of overwriting files :) [#record] is a small abstraction that uses [#out]'s open quicktime. Note that you can only use one [#record] at a time, but you can use several [#out]. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] BrightonPD
Hi Philip great to see UK pd happenings- in future if I get out of Brirmingham I'll come patch some time :) On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Philip Cunningham pcunningham...@googlemail.com wrote: Oops, sorry for the typo. The next meeting is Sat 26 March 2011 from 2.30pm onwards. This was because the date had to bee changed (copy-paste fail). Thanks Husk 00! Best, Philip On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Husk 00 hus...@gmail.com wrote: En hora buena! congrats philip! cheers husk On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Philip Cunningham pcunningham...@googlemail.com wrote: Greatly inspired by the NYCPatchingCircle (hope you don't mind us using your blurb), a small group of patchers have taken root in the coastal city of Brighton, UK. Our next meeting is at Build Brighton on Thur 26 March 2011 from 2.30pm onwards. The Skiff, 6 Gloucester Street, BN1 4EW. Please come along! http://is.gd/brightonpd Best wishes, Philip Cunningham -- Portfolio: http://philipcunningham.org BrightonPD: http://unsymbol.users.anapnea.net/brightonpd/ Chipmusic: http://firebrandboy.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- when Art become pratical, we call it technology, when Technology become uselesswe call it Art Song hojun www.estereotips.net -- Portfolio: http://philipcunningham.org BrightonPD: http://unsymbol.users.anapnea.net/brightonpd/ Chipmusic: http://firebrandboy.org ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] The economics of Open source
Hi Just an idea, but perhaps a sort of fund raising drive for specific projects for PD? Like say a fund raise drive for extra documentation (did gridflow do this once in 05?), some fancy PD coffee table book : ) or development of some new external ect. each project has it's own licience depending on it's aims? On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/18 Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca: already. Then the only way to get a reward for having done work that hasn't been asked for, is always in terms of how much it will get people to offer you money for future work. Perhaps there ought to be a donation system for work that has been already done ? But it ends up being something very similar, given that the maintenance of existing software also counts as future work . Another related thing: I'm a little reticent when it comes to donating to software under the BSD license and the like, considering that my donation could end up being an investment in private corporations at the end. If PureData + extensions will adopt a Donation System, I'd suggest to differentiate donation for GPL and BSD work, so we could donate just for the GPL'ed territory. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Sound design forums?
There's a soundcloud page for the Pd forum so you can post sounds there too On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:13 PM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote: - geared toward synthesis of leftfield sound elements - probably using traditional synthesis methods e.g subtractive, FM etc. - not necessarily tied to any platform/software/hardware just general - perhaps somewhere I could post a short audio clip of a sound and people could chime in about how they would synthesize that type of sound http://puredata.hurleur.com/ Pd forum, covers all the bold points very well, very helpful community as is this list. I like http://createdigitalmusic.com/ for general news rather then specific advice, kind of a well of ideas. If you find a really good general synth community I'd love to hear about it too. -- Richie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Generative Pure Data based internet radio
I liked rand, I remember this one composition n played random samples of super mario ... in fact I might try to recreate it in pd and upload it :) On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:38 PM, g...@itchybit.org wrote: hi My big project over the last two months or so has been PatchWerk Radio, a generative internet radio station that streams 24/7 and is built in PD and Python. The website if you want to have a look is at http://radio.rumblesan.com reminds me of http://r4nd.org ... god knows what happened with that project .. the domain is no longer running it http://www.runme.org/project/+rand/ gnd/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to capture sound video from Pd/Gem
if you don't get anywhere with [pdp_rec~] another alternative could be to try the gridflow objects [#to_pix] to connect a Gem scene to gridflow -- then connect to [#record] to record the scene. However I don't think it records sound- check out the Gridflow help index and files. Personally I have not had much luck with recording in Gem, as mentioned I output tiffs to combine into a movie file...any sound I record separately and add later using a video editor. A bit of a pain but at least it comes together in the end. ..except IMHO the only really good video editor (Kdenlives) loves crashing . Next best thing is Pitivi On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org wrote: Hi, it looks like i can't capture with recordmyDesktop... i only get error code 256 / 2816 I would like to give [pdp_rec~] a try, but i can't make a [pix_2pdp] object. The error message here is: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pix_2pdp.pd_linux: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pix_2pdp.pd_linux: undefined symbol: _ZN9CPPExtern4postEPKcz but the object is there and the help file refers to pix_freeframe, which could be because of the version of GEM from svn. Markus On 02.03.2011 00:12, Pedro Lopes wrote: Hey, I use recordmydesktop, it captures OpenGL and audio through Jack, sou I route it to record pd output. Sometimes I have lags, which is shi* but then again I did not setup things carefully (i'm not with an rt kernel now, and my screen is wid). All these videos are recorded that way 1) http://vimeo.com/11792446 (see the last frame of this one[1], it helps you with the arguments for the recordmydesktop - since they are a bit freaky) - This was done with a slower laptop than my newer but it was RT and I really felt that it helps in grabbing the video/audio data. 2) http://vimeo.com/11949192 (see the first frame of this one[1], no lagged older laptop with rt kernel) 3) http://vimeo.com/17469068 (once again first frame, this is lagged better laptop, kernel is not rt) [1] hooray for laziness in not cutting the videos! Best, Pedro Lopes On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:55 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com mailto:alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: ahh correction- the object is under pidip and is called [pdp_rec~] On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com mailto:alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: I dont know how much this could help but a good object for recording visuals and sound synced is[pdp_record] either part of pdp or pidip (cant remember which one). try the gem_to_pdp bridge to connect Gem scene and [pdp_record] together. To be honest I am as yet to try this myself as I often just out put Gem visuals as a series of tiffs and then stitch them together later to make an ogg file. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org mailto:a...@zankapfel.org wrote: Hi List, does anybody know a good (working) way to capture audio and video from Pd/Gem under linux? So far i tried using glc-capture, which gives good video results, but refuses to record any sound at all. glc-capture should work with alsa, but it only outputs error messages like this: snd_pcm_open (input): Device or resource busy or [ 33.15s alsa_capture error ] initialization failed: Invalid argument ... markus ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Pedro Lopes (MSc) contact: pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt mailto:pedro.lo...@ist.utl.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes / http://pedrolopesresearch.wordpress.com/ | http://twitter.com/plopesresearch ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] thanks for Pduino!
Yeah pduino is great- using Gem it's an easier way to get visuals reacting to Arduino board data than using Processing...thanks! On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:34 AM, Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Just wanted to say thanks to Hans and everyone involved in putting Pduino together. I am having a ball with it! So, thanks! -- shiny Rich ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to capture sound video from Pd/Gem
I dont know how much this could help but a good object for recording visuals and sound synced is[pdp_record] either part of pdp or pidip (cant remember which one). try the gem_to_pdp bridge to connect Gem scene and [pdp_record] together. To be honest I am as yet to try this myself as I often just out put Gem visuals as a series of tiffs and then stitch them together later to make an ogg file. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org wrote: Hi List, does anybody know a good (working) way to capture audio and video from Pd/Gem under linux? So far i tried using glc-capture, which gives good video results, but refuses to record any sound at all. glc-capture should work with alsa, but it only outputs error messages like this: snd_pcm_open (input): Device or resource busy or [ 33.15s alsa_capture error ] initialization failed: Invalid argument ... markus ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to capture sound video from Pd/Gem
ahh correction- the object is under pidip and is called [pdp_rec~] On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:44 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: I dont know how much this could help but a good object for recording visuals and sound synced is[pdp_record] either part of pdp or pidip (cant remember which one). try the gem_to_pdp bridge to connect Gem scene and [pdp_record] together. To be honest I am as yet to try this myself as I often just out put Gem visuals as a series of tiffs and then stitch them together later to make an ogg file. On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Markus Demmel a...@zankapfel.org wrote: Hi List, does anybody know a good (working) way to capture audio and video from Pd/Gem under linux? So far i tried using glc-capture, which gives good video results, but refuses to record any sound at all. glc-capture should work with alsa, but it only outputs error messages like this: snd_pcm_open (input): Device or resource busy or [ 33.15s alsa_capture error ] initialization failed: Invalid argument ... markus ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10
Hi Cyrille Do you have the svn link? Thanks for this On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, cyrille henry c...@chnry.net wrote: hello, i've made a new pmpd version. There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d. this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible. there is few differences anyway : - few messages get renamed (both on input or output) - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping - there is now a damping associate with each masses - there are more messages to get simulation data I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be maintained. help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn. Cyrille ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pmpd v 0.10
http://tcritic.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/rtfm.jpg :) Yeah I went to look at the downloads page pmpd website - thanks! i'll have a look there On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at wrote: I guess that's an RTFM ;) You could have also just typed 'svn info' and paste the direct URL into the email. There is a pmpd page on the downloads page, that would be a great place to put the tarball: http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/pmpd .hc On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:48 +0100, cyrille henry wrote: http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/develop c Le 24/02/2011 21:33, ALAN BROOKER a écrit : Hi Cyrille Do you have the svn link? Thanks for this On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:04 PM, cyrille henryc...@chnry.net wrote: hello, i've made a new pmpd version. There is 3 new objects : pmpd, pmpd2d and pmpd3d. this 3 objects should replace MSD. most of the time, they are compatible. there is few differences anyway : - few messages get renamed (both on input or output) - there is a difference on the calculation of tLink Damping - there is now a damping associate with each masses - there are more messages to get simulation data I encourage anyone to switch from MSD to pmpd, since MSD will not be maintained. help / examples / sources can be found on pd svn. Cyrille ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
Yeah all seems to work( so far) like #out and #see which were not working before, I am using pd-l2ork 18/02 build so maybe something was fixed there not too sure. Going to join on the pd-l2ork-dev mailing list to catch future announcements---pd-l2ork is great stuff! On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic i...@vt.edu wrote: Great! Thanks for the report. This was definitely on my todo list. BTW There have been a lot of unannounced releases of pd-l2ork lately so you may want to check it out. Latest release alone includes universal copy and paste and many other usability improvements. Cheers! ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All tried quickly L2Ork with Gridflow 9.14 and both are working great-big thanks :) Off topic Mathieu but has Gridflow 9.14 been tested with the vanilla Pd 0.43-0 test versions? Thanks again On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: oops!Apologies Mathieu, it was meant for list, rather just an email to you directly I have all of those libraries installed, so I will download Gridflow again shortly for those additions- the object [#to_pdp] is working and and can display output, so I am using that for meantime Thanks to all for looking into this, it's great to have gridflow going on L2Ork pd-extended for a good set up ! On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, ALAN BROOKER wrote: I have replaced the g_canvas.h with the version from L2Ork pd-extended and recomplided gridflow- yes it is stable now. However some objects are not loading/working specifically [#see] and [#out window]. I am replying back to the list because it looks like your email doesn't have private content, even though you wrote it to just me. The problem with [#see] must have to do with changes specific to L2Ork. Do you get a crash ? It has to do with the NEWWB macro in src/classes_gui.cxx, which allocates a t_widgetbehavior, but does not set the 8th field. To do this in a way that is also compatible with pd-extended's g_canvas.h, we have to add a CLEAR(wb) right there (it's just a memset shortcut). I'm adding it now. [#out window] is an alias for any of the 3 main image display handlers : [#out x11], [#out sdl], [#out quartz]. (there are two more, [#out aalib] and [#see], that aren't accessible by [#out window]). To get [#out x11] working, you need to have enough .h files installed. Perhaps you need libx11-dev, libxext-dev, and/or libxt-dev. They're not listed in README. I'm adding them now. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Pd 0.43-0 test +Gridflow (was Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended)
Hi Thanks, yes wanted to see if it was compatible at your end- just to give some brief feedback,-I have actually been using Gridflow + vanilla Pd 0.43-0 (test 3) on Ubuntu and it works mostly. The big issue for me was the help index, which would completely crash PD when selected, but PD 0.43 is a test release I suppose. So for me, other than the help index (and perhaps some examples which crashed PD) it is usable On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:18 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, ALAN BROOKER wrote: tried quickly L2Ork with Gridflow 9.14 and both are working great-big thanks :) I haven't done any testing nor debugging with L20rk, and AFAIK, I haven't fixed anything that caused a problem with L20rk. This means that the bug is probably still there, and might pop in your face, probably only in a future release. This is unless I fixed it by accident. Off topic Mathieu but has Gridflow 9.14 been tested with the vanilla Pd 0.43-0 test versions? It's been tried and it doesn't work. It's currently hard to debug, so, I want to make some big changes to the [doc_...] abstractions to make it easier to put my finger on the bug. Either that or hack pd again so that it tells me real error messages in those circumstances. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
Hi All tried quickly L2Ork with Gridflow 9.14 and both are working great-big thanks :) Off topic Mathieu but has Gridflow 9.14 been tested with the vanilla Pd 0.43-0 test versions? Thanks again On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:15 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: oops!Apologies Mathieu, it was meant for list, rather just an email to you directly I have all of those libraries installed, so I will download Gridflow again shortly for those additions- the object [#to_pdp] is working and and can display output, so I am using that for meantime Thanks to all for looking into this, it's great to have gridflow going on L2Ork pd-extended for a good set up ! On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, ALAN BROOKER wrote: I have replaced the g_canvas.h with the version from L2Ork pd-extended and recomplided gridflow- yes it is stable now. However some objects are not loading/working specifically [#see] and [#out window]. I am replying back to the list because it looks like your email doesn't have private content, even though you wrote it to just me. The problem with [#see] must have to do with changes specific to L2Ork. Do you get a crash ? It has to do with the NEWWB macro in src/classes_gui.cxx, which allocates a t_widgetbehavior, but does not set the 8th field. To do this in a way that is also compatible with pd-extended's g_canvas.h, we have to add a CLEAR(wb) right there (it's just a memset shortcut). I'm adding it now. [#out window] is an alias for any of the 3 main image display handlers : [#out x11], [#out sdl], [#out quartz]. (there are two more, [#out aalib] and [#see], that aren't accessible by [#out window]). To get [#out x11] working, you need to have enough .h files installed. Perhaps you need libx11-dev, libxext-dev, and/or libxt-dev. They're not listed in README. I'm adding them now. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Help FLOSS Manuals @ Open Web Awards
+1 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com wrote: 2 On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 10:08 AM, jm jones juan...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/3 Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl: Dear Pd folks, Adam Hyde has asked for your support by voting for Booki in the Open Web Awards. Booki will be the new platform for all the FLOSS Manuals, including the Pure Data one. So a vote for Booki is a vote for the Pd FLOSS Manual! Best wishes from Berlin! Derek *** vote for booki in the Open Web Awards! Booki (the latest FM project - http://www.booki.cc - a collaborative publishing platform) is in the final of the Open Web Awards. Great! We are 1 of 3 projects. If we win we get 5000 which we will use to do a code sprint on a tropical island somewhere ;) please please please register : http://www.drumbeat.org/user/register and vote for us by visiting this page and clicking on the 'vote' link (top right): http://www.drumbeat.org/project/open-web-publishing and pass this around :) Adam Hyde Founder FLOSS Manuals Booki Project Manager Contact Information German mobile : + 49 177 4935122 Email : a...@flossmanuals.net irc : irc.freenode.net #flossmanuals Free manuals for free software http://www.flossmanuals.net/about Free Software for making Free Books http://www.booki.cc/ ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list Done! -- Juan Manuel Jones ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Jaime E Oliver LR www.jaimeoliver.pe 858 750 0924 (cel) 858 202 1522 (home) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Music made with Pd
wow! really like this---here is another clip...pure data on the news! http://vimeo.com/17123835 On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Eduardo Patricio epatri...@yahoo.com wrote: A little improvisation with Pd: http://vimeo.com/19385664 cheers! Eduardo _ Eduardo Patrício http://www.eduardopatricio.com.br +55 41 8434-0480 ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [ot] hosting service for a pure data project?
I use google code for my patches/ random stuff : http://code.google.com/p/databodega/downloads/list main page is here: http://code.google.com/projecthosting/ http://code.google.com/projecthosting/quite straight forward to upload and manage from my experience On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Athos Bacchiocchi athos.bacchioc...@tin.it wrote: i'm planning to share a patch made with some friends and i need a free hosting service for this purpose. I usually use wordpress.com for my personal stuff, but it doesn't allow for many file types, including archives and .pd files. I would use the website to keep trace of our plans, further steps, documentation and so on, so something with a blog- like approach would be better for us. And maybe something to handle the contributed development of the patch (we are now using just a dropbox shared folder). I was thinking about sourceforge, but isn't it too much for just a pure data patch? Any suggestion? thanks, athos ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] Gem [glsl_geometry]: need OpenGL-2.1
HI List, I am trying to learn the pixel shaders/geometry aspect of Gem on Ubuntu, but in trying to load the [glsl_geometry] help patch I get the following error message on rendering: error: [glsl_geometry]: need OpenGL-2.1 (or at least the geometry-shader ARB-extension) to run GLSL ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. I can find any way to update from synaptic -is there a way I can get this updated/working? Appreciate any help Alan ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gem [glsl_geometry]: need OpenGL-2.1
doh! :) On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:37 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-01-27 16:21, ALAN BROOKER wrote: I can find any way to update from synaptic -is there a way I can get this updated/working? # apt-get install new-graphics-card mgadsrt IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1BkUcACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSobwCdFvJmG5M9jDSBI7t3GSidbmNO ngwAn1kRWouMTc2yDVxnqT9nWmmccXsK =5xcg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] HPGL tools for drawing pd patches and more
you mean this ? http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/~pbourke/dataformats/hpgl/ http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/~pbourke/dataformats/hpgl/any pics? On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:25 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: Btw I'm currently developing several other pieces in my HPGL (plotter) chain tool : [hpgl_to_lines], converter from hpgl to line segments [hpgl_objectbox], to draw an objectbox as hpgl (one inlet, one outlet) [hpgl_messagebox], to draw a messagebox as hpgl (one inlet, one outlet) [hpgl_from_patch], convert from pd patch format to hpgl In those cases, when it says from hpgl and to hpgl, those are pd messages, and you need [plotter_parser] to parse hpgl bytes, and/or [plotter_control] to produce hpgl bytes (or neither if you only use the hpgl messages as an intermediate format between two other things). Is anyone else interested in that kind of thing ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Infinite Glitch
impressive! :) On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Ben Baker-Smith bbakersm...@gmail.comwrote: Hello List, Today is the official release of Infinite Glitch, an online based artwork that was created using, among other things, Pd-extended and PdGst. Thanks so much to everyone who has helped with the development of these great tools! You can read through the description below or jump straight to the project page: http://infiniteglitch.com -- Every day an incomprehensible number of new digital media files are uploaded to hosting sites across the internet. Far too many for any one person to consume. Infinite Glitch http://infiniteglitch.com/ is a stream-of-conciousness representation of this overwhelming flood of media, its fractured and degraded sounds and images reflecting how little we as an audience are able to retain from this daily barrage. http://infiniteglitch.com/ Infinite Glitch http://infiniteglitch.com/ is an automated system that generates an ever-changing audio/video stream from the constantly increasing mass of media files freely available on the web. Source audio and video files are ripped from a variety of popular media hosting sites, torn apart, and recombined using collage and glitch techniques to create an organic, chaotic flood of sensory input. Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Flossmanual is down
That was an excellent resource- seems to have disappeared from index page as well? On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Nic Freed beatthefinalb...@gmail.comwrote: I mentioned it on #dataflow, and they said to put it here, so, here we are :) I was going back to the (very useful) pd flossmanual, but now it seems to be down. The people at the chat said its probably a sysadmin error or something, idunno. http://en.flossmanuals.net/PureData/ Thanks! --Nic ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] flocons (fwd)
what type of sounds could be generated from the data to make these snowflakes? hmm On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 3:06 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Sat, 8 Jan 2011, Pedro Lopes wrote: http://gridflow.ca/gallery/flocon_256_114_14.png This one is beautiful. What does that imply about the other ones ? ;) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd in mac app store
ahh yes that definition of RJDJ is clear now... It's nice have Pd ported to here and there but perhaps time need to sort of licence matters would not make it worth it. I remember using Pd for the old ipods via ipod linux- that was a really good project, On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 7:38 PM, Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.ukwrote: On Sat, 8 Jan 2011 10:53:37 + ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding ugly plan: Is app store 'lock-in' any different from apple's usual hardware' lock in' for laptops/desktops? Pd still runs on those platforms so why not port ipad, ipod, iphone upud, ipid etc? In any case isnt RJDJ the port for Pd to this platform anyway ? I could be wrong- not 100% I wouldn't say it's a port of of Pd, not as an application. It's a port of Pd to support a specific application class with its own interfaces. The GUI for Pd on a tablet would be quite different anyway, to take advantage of that device's touch gestures, a direct port of the keyboard oriented interface would miss an opportunity. Regarding Apple, who are only one manufacturer of mobile and tablet devices; I think this is a moral issue that can be easily settled by watching this famous advertisement, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYecfV3ubP8 and comparing the stance implied there with their position 25 years later. On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: But kids have such a shorter attention span these days D. On 1/8/11 4:29 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: BTW, the nineties had another site for that, which had a lot more text, from which you could actually learn, instead of OMG FAIL. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 46: Disconnect from desire ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Andy Farnell padawa...@obiwannabe.co.uk ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd in mac app store
Regarding ugly plan: Is app store 'lock-in' any different from apple's usual hardware' lock in' for laptops/desktops? Pd still runs on those platforms so why not port ipad, ipod, iphone upud, ipid etc? In any case isnt RJDJ the port for Pd to this platform anyway ? I could be wrong- not 100% On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Derek Holzer de...@umatic.nl wrote: But kids have such a shorter attention span these days D. On 1/8/11 4:29 AM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: BTW, the nineties had another site for that, which had a lot more text, from which you could actually learn, instead of OMG FAIL. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://macumbista.net ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 46: Disconnect from desire ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Joyeux Noël !
nice! On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 2:13 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: http://gridflow.ca/gallery/joyeux_no%C3%ABl.png ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Javascript in PD?
Java for PD: http://www.le-son666.com/software/pdj/ On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:16 AM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Thu, 16 Dec 2010, Bernardo Barros wrote: 2010/12/16 Dima Bak sounddesign3...@gmail.com: Is there a way to use js in PD like in Max (js object)? Thanks I think just python and lua (much better btw :-) python, lua, tcl, haskell, scheme, java, c#, etc. (there are several other lesser known and there exists no database of existing externals, so this is just by memory) But there's nothing that allows you to write source code in a box... the closest is [expr]. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] editmode_look-plugin error
Hi The gui plugin *editmode_look-plugin. *is very nice but when ever I try to add an array, click on an object to change the properties or go into preferences to change the start up path, a diolog box pops up with the following error: invalid command name .gfxstub82dfac0.c invalid command name .gfxstub82dfac0.c while executing $tkcanvas configure -background white (procedure set_cords_by_editmode line 17) invoked from within set_cords_by_editmode .gfxstub82dfac0 (command bound to event) Has anyone else had this error or is it my set up? Thanks for any info ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Javascript in PD?
hmm.. sounds interesting do you have a link? On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Jamie Bullock ja...@postlude.co.uk wrote: On 17 Dec 2010, at 13:40, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: On Fri, 17 Dec 2010, ALAN BROOKER wrote: Java for PD: http://www.le-son666.com/software/pdj/ Ah yeah, you can see on Pascal Gauthier's page (that page) that PDJ also supports JavaScript and any other language for which you can find an interpreter running on the JVM, and the example here is Rhino, a JavaScript interpreter. And don't forget k_cext, which allows you type C code directly into an object box, compiles it and runs it when the object gets a passed a message! Jamie ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] A bit of fun
...so tempting- Like a big red button saying* do not press* It would be interesting to use shell as a way of *sonifying system data (memory usage ect**)* great patches! On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Andrew Faraday jbtur...@hotmail.comwrote: [sudo rm -rf / ( | [shell] * Disclaimer, do NOT do this. No realy, Don't! This would be a REALLY STUPID THING TO DO -- Subject: Re: [PD] A bit of fun From: noise@gmail.com Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 19:55:46 +0800 CC: pd-list@iem.at To: jbtur...@hotmail.com those two very simple patches are very instructive, thanx a lot. I was unaware that it is that easy to call shell commands from withitn Pd. One could do quite some damage with this I assume... Thanks again, Jurgen On Dec 15, 2010, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Faraday wrote: Hey there I don't know whether to be proud of these patches or abjectly ashamed, but I thought you might like a nosey. Two patches I was playing with on my mac... Andrew Picture 1.pngPicture 2.png ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43
Just curious Overall, at which point is a project forked? When additions are made or taken away? Or just when licence terms are changed? If the code is copied and then released under a different name? In this case it would be the licence change I believe On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 11:52 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.cawrote: On Tue, 14 Dec 2010, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: So did the software in question _always_ have the conflicting licenses, or was it originally just GPL and in a subsequent version the other license was added? Well, I found the military clause in PiDiP in déc.2005, and I have no idea for how long it had been there at that time. Until now, I had no idea about Unauthorized, really, but I just looked at a checkout from last month, and COPYING was just the GPLv2. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] mailing list
Hi Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards to inappropriate/aggressive comments? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] mailing list
Jurgen: I don't agree that it is a “ extremely violent” comment because it is a suggestion rather than any sort of threat? Perhaps you be a bit more specific by what you mean. In any case, it is reasonable thing to say- if you are not happy with the people here don't subscribe to the list. “If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all” Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because they contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider useful obliges nobody else but you. Would like to explain just how useful and constructive ydegoyon's previous comment was in that “there are only three collaborators and you call that a community”? What is the point is saying that? You must agree it is a comment to really just take the piss out of the developers and is demotivating. Hardly sensible discourse Do you think that your own way of reacting to posts here should be elevated to become standard of the entire group? What an idea! No, that is not the case at all, and if this is the impression I have given , then I apologise-were all adults here and if I have done something wrong then I am willing to take a step back. If you don't agree with me, that's fair enough-like I said bad feelings between people is not a good thing. To just me it seems, that Sevy is pissed off and is just trying to piss other people off. If you like have look back at some of the previous posts and then tell me if you think his posts are constructive or not. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 11:24 AM, jurgen noise@gmail.com wrote: I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if he's not happy extremely violent and inappropriate. Do you think that your own way of reacting to posts here should be elevated to become standard of the entire group? What an idea! Everybody's contribution and comments to the list are good because they contribute to ongoing processes. What you personally consider useful obliges nobody else but you. On Dec 13, 2010, at 6:30 PM, ALAN BROOKER wrote: Hi Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards to inappropriate/aggressive comments? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43
You make a good point, I would support you on this as it is constructive criticism. Taking the piss out of people is just not good . all the best. Are you still maintaining PiDiP? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:10 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote: because i protest against the way decisions are taken? did you ever see here any decision that was submitted to a vote? ( for example like which libraries should be included in extended ? or if the chord patches should be orange and with an arrow? ) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43
* Downloads for PD extended from 2010-12-06 to 2010-12-13 for windows: 1607 Downloads for PD extended from 2010-12-06 to 2010-12-13 for OS X: 841 Downloads for PD extended from 2010-12-06 to 2010-12-13 for Debian: 6 so the total for downloads over a 7 day period across all platforms is 2454. That is allot of users for PD extended and the period doesn't even cover a whole month, that is a healthy user community to me. An email is sent asking for more people to help out in maintaining libraries and your response is to just take the piss and say 'ha ha here are only 3 collaborators...”. How is that suppose to make the few developers feel? How is that being constructive when someone is asking for help in maintaining the project? To say; “ Maybe if there was a more open process of selecting libraries there would be more developers” would be more helpful because maybe then things would change. It was a disappointing response, but I wish you the best. * * * * * On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:21 PM, ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.comwrote: You make a good point, I would support you on this as it is constructive criticism. Taking the piss out of people is just not good . all the best. Are you still maintaining PiDiP? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:10 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote: because i protest against the way decisions are taken? did you ever see here any decision that was submitted to a vote? ( for example like which libraries should be included in extended ? or if the chord patches should be orange and with an arrow? ) ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] buttonbar GUI plugin
Hi Can I just check where the other gui plugins go? I dropped them in a folder called *start up* in /usr/local/lib/pd-externals and get the following errors in the console- thanks for any tips - UNHANDLED ERROR: couldn't open /usr/local/lib/pd/startup/object_tags.tcllist: no such file or directory while executing open [file join $::sys_libdir startup object_tags.tcllist] (uplevel body line 42) invoked from within uplevel #0 $tclcode FAILED TO LOAD /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/startup/object_db-plugin.tcl --- --- UNHANDLED ERROR: window name create already exists in parent while executing menu .popup.create (uplevel body line 11) invoked from within uplevel #0 $tclcode FAILED TO LOAD /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/startup/disabled/insertintopopup-plugin.tcl --- (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name pdtk_pd_meters while executing pdtk_pd_meters 0 0 0 0 (uplevel body line 1) invoked from within uplevel #0 $cmd_from_pd On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 4:40 AM, Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx wrote: On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 10:23:45AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Yes, this is vanilla 0.43. Just drop them into the user-installed folders like installing an external: http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files Whoa, awesome, I just tried this with the full-screen tcl plugin. This plugins thing is a very cool feature! Congratulations to all you devs, and many thanks. Chris. --- http://mccormick.cx ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-pidip into Debian
I agree but how could such a term ever be enforced if the military were to use it? Through litigation? IMO such a term is unenforceable ... arguably making it redundant-although I am happy to hear other's point of view? On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Martin . blindmanona...@gmail.com wrote: +1 for including the line about military use in pd's license. That will make us all happy. And the military then has to use maxmsp. Though, I assume it means military institutions and not my own militant guerilla art. But, we could also conclude that war/military is commercial, at least in the sense that war is waged for profit, and thus GPL should do On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 5:46 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote: good!!! i'm free to do what i like now!!! yeh! sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ok, will do. I also have to remove pidip from Pd-extended based on this license. .hc On Nov 23, 2010, at 7:18 AM, ydego...@free.fr wrote: jooo, que espeso ... i told you 1 times not to package my stuff, that i'm happy with the packages of goto10... so [EOC] ciao, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Hey Lluis and Yves, I see that puredyne has packaged pidip, so it should be pretty easy to get it into Debian. The only problem is the license. If it was a straight BSD or GPL license, then it would be fine. The problem is this line: NOT FOR MILITARY OR REPRESSIVE USE !!! That isn't free according to the Debian Free Software Guidelines. .hc As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute. - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Gridflow+ L2Ork pd-extended (was: L2Ork pd-extended release candidate 1 now available)
oops!Apologies Mathieu, it was meant for list, rather just an email to you directly I have all of those libraries installed, so I will download Gridflow again shortly for those additions- the object [#to_pdp] is working and and can display output, so I am using that for meantime Thanks to all for looking into this, it's great to have gridflow going on L2Ork pd-extended for a good set up ! On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, ALAN BROOKER wrote: I have replaced the g_canvas.h with the version from L2Ork pd-extended and recomplided gridflow- yes it is stable now. However some objects are not loading/working specifically [#see] and [#out window]. I am replying back to the list because it looks like your email doesn't have private content, even though you wrote it to just me. The problem with [#see] must have to do with changes specific to L2Ork. Do you get a crash ? It has to do with the NEWWB macro in src/classes_gui.cxx, which allocates a t_widgetbehavior, but does not set the 8th field. To do this in a way that is also compatible with pd-extended's g_canvas.h, we have to add a CLEAR(wb) right there (it's just a memset shortcut). I'm adding it now. [#out window] is an alias for any of the 3 main image display handlers : [#out x11], [#out sdl], [#out quartz]. (there are two more, [#out aalib] and [#see], that aren't accessible by [#out window]). To get [#out x11] working, you need to have enough .h files installed. Perhaps you need libx11-dev, libxext-dev, and/or libxt-dev. They're not listed in README. I'm adding them now. ___ | Mathieu Bouchard tél: +1.514.383.3801 Villeray, Montréal, QC ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Undervine, data viz + sonification at SFMOMA
ok, are you two friends now then? ;) On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 3:18 AM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote: ok, it's proved now you're my old nationalist friend 'new world'? with imported old mentality within.. it's just too funny you post this here now.. apart from that, i don't care of your commercials... ciao, sevy Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Working again with Bobby Pietrusko and Stewart Smith, I created sonification for visualization of data about the global wine industry. It opened recently at SFMOMA in San Francisco. You can see a little snippet here: http://at.or.at/hans/undervine/ And here's a chunk from a scene that didn't make the final cut be we like anyway: http://at.or.at/hans/blog/2010/11/21/highlighting-data-with-sound/ Wine is a potent force in contemporary life, perhaps the only comestible to produce its own visual culture. How Wine Became Modern, the first exhibition of its kind, looks at the world of wine and the role that architecture, design, and media have played in its stunning transformation over the past three decades. Developed in collaboration with the New York architecture studio Diller Scofidio + Renfro, the exhibition features historical artifacts, architectural models, multimedia installations, newly commissioned artworks, and even a smell wall to provide a richly textured experience in the galleries. Come discover how important cultural preoccupations of our day, such as the meaning of place and authenticity in our increasingly global and virtual world, play out at this uniquely fertile intersection of nature and culture. At once a nuanced investigation and a vivid sensory and aesthetic experience, this exhibition presents wine as you've never seen it before. November 20, 2010 - April 17, 2011 http://www.sfmoma.org/exhibitions/406 http://www.sfmoma.org/press/releases/exhibitions/829 ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] exporting PD patch part2
was it made with Gem ? I use pix_write to export a series of tiff of a Gem animation and then join them together to create a movie file- but this is a long method, do have a look at pix_record which may be better On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:38 AM, 2bad4...@london.com wrote: hi one more quick question. i wrote an animator in PD that reads graphics from files and animates it. any way of exporting that as a movie file or something? thanks. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] exporting PD patch
try this patch too On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.atwrote: Checkout the writesf~ object, you can just send audio to it, and write it to a file. .hc On Nov 30, 2010, at 4:42 PM, 2bad4...@london.com wrote: hello, i am wondering if there's a way of exporting the melody created in PD as a sound file, ex. mp3 or wav thanks in advance for any suggestions! ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list http://at.or.at/hans/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list #N canvas 1 52 450 300 10; #N canvas 480 171 543 496 record 0; #X obj 119 79 inlet~; #X obj 265 79 inlet; #X msg 235 243 start; #X msg 465 210 stop; #X obj 230 305 writesf~; #X obj 264 153 sel 1; #X obj 264 177 savepanel; #X msg 315 242 open \$1; #X obj 264 199 t b s; #X connect 0 0 4 0; #X connect 1 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 4 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 5 1 3 0; #X connect 6 0 8 0; #X connect 7 0 4 0; #X connect 8 0 2 0; #X connect 8 1 7 0; #X restore -304 102 pd record; #X obj -241 71 tgl 15 0 empty record empty 0 -6 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X connect 1 0 0 1; ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list