Re: [PD] Installing PD on OpenSUSE
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-05-11 19:47, Martin Peach wrote: I removed the requirement for 5.1 in the makkefile, this was in January of this year. i think the OP is referring to Pd-extended 0.43.4 - Released 2013-01-25 and while january matches, the year is off by one :-) so the released Pd-extended sources are not at all up-to-date with the SVN. fgmasd IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIbBAEBCAAGBQJTcHQvAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4OgoP+PkPFwDqV3yjsPd2OLwufNGH FZ5khQKsXkjPbHSSOYZVUZeStb8f2mceBTyicv4UCcacJBorSnHQw/+WgTwtlJsb vjTGNOATWn5Gg3SSR21u8uCGEVNoNr1hJ//wzOiIxRkdQVIqt2TF2gciaIpGOvD7 YQii9n4sta3KXLx322MqTkiNDra0eE9y93H4IHyTmA2h1fcL0YK1cHeg7I8QOPnc N7Yw/ifj9ufvWJ21IF5XCq/QHmHv164OdXfuIlKmAsQ0lSDBzeP8jrtSGgQq85lf k8vUnYcXSfJjs2GB3QJgv+kl1Y6rOiWGagRzbWqbvv5L/IpgnD5aEChbR+vdhtnX 4XwYT/QM1h7L/zmoQVUV0lN6BNNGAUW7Wn/v3QZEHcDFrsJZtui/iZK9rZsz+M6E pgIWEj0FdmQYbM6pAHyRZKWea9XEceFVwdIVGiAid/rRDCdjAl0mvYQds1flVPv3 FbDrrOY/ix6k9H4pon9dAKXnmFcABFoOkaihaRVL28XeGiceJD2XRLLeP6mLQGg5 T4GM56+PtEdgGPg11RC7WsiHlvQ48/wNB51J/rnDmEXGhNoDKl5Mb5xnmiavxSxX 4DRuXiCczqKlcqNoNH4JNvdN4WIw3PJv7z3odY8VJ097NWhDbgelgBfunry5piyX ghi6T/ovuucvJovFZME= =8xJI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] How to get a list of midi devices without GUI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-09 16:45, Antoine Villeret wrote: Shouldn't `[mediasettings/midisettings]` update it's own device lists on `[listdevices(` message ? please file a feature-request (and assign it to me, if possible) fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTY1OsAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4mnQP/2LNqaPkJxA0AuRG/d1PN1d9 RmZMsIhtrhyWr1HEO0n5ZcapkcD1lYEGw/kbHJ+A5i29Wp2zSqqKiDdvJ1Af9M6V 8mhu56W/14K/gN1Yn2wBjhU/CgWkwI8mZzwY3xKKMbSvlbj3qwyzXz/tnqd+5tym 7Ej34M2PhEaazelAwOjgjI+ERC1U5u+9HkhR9mfoBWgkoSa2LG82ZB5PO+/DZ9F1 8HPwy/FVq2KblhyfbLi6B0JV0MhujF4IY9DhLnn8GxNDbefvG/zmXcsxhqju3ZEs VMDFXCpTY8aoXve+t/mNl1mXmpRD6zAtJhfIm5ljRuu4v7GjGJBJs8PfPWxRceIc Bp49S+HZHDg6oojZTA+vW77iz3xpg1A/qIuSmKbdX55Zxk6obQ7KDhHLxObmqieg 3gkIscjMluZMFRobN9crw5qFnHlVauio5cWvFnciuU8RUXLQ8HzfvOdMwV3GBczp lK6tZmNWADto9cvi82rjdILPA48DwZXHy1QoLeTaP3+N1vN04Vnd9lE64yvMo+mA sSbgLkudhOT7NK8U4Ut5jWwAwt3WX+hUxfPaJ3shJ44wpRekz8zYko7nz5eghar5 bfq2PP2Nro3z2NVrgSHc8Uyx5em4loPnQUSVjgFXz/izwld27FXZds6P23Ek0iPU JwSkFLt0VLD4QDBxLFT3 =bXEL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] can [bp~] be obtained with biquad coefficients?
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On 2014-04-12 08:45, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
{ t_sample output = *in++ + fb1 * last + fb2 * prev; if
(PD_BIGORSMALL(output)) output = 0; *out++ = ff1 * output + ff2 *
last + ff3 * prev; prev = last; last = output; }
Well, I made a silly confusion mistake and thought the first line
was feedforward (and then equivalent to the bp~). But still, it
could be it for all I can tell. How can you actually see wether is
feedback or not?
stupid way: the coefficients are called fb1 and fb2; fb is an
abbreviation for feedback, so this might have put you onto the right
track.
complicated way: last and prev refer to past output samples (as
has been mentioned in other emails), and using old output to generate
new output is the definition of feedback.
fgmasdr
IOhannes
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Re: [PD] 64bit runtime error 'couldn't read file /usr/tcl//pd-gui.tcl'
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-04-09 09:18, David Woodfall wrote: Hi I've just installed pd and when I run it I get the following line on the console, and no gui is started: hi. it would be great if you could provide some more information. which version of Pd are you talking about? where did you get Pd? how did you install Pd? (compiled from source? package manager? other pre-built binary?) which OS are you using? your path only indicate that it is a un*x like system, but it might help to know whether you are using some obscure linux distro or plain irix :-) % locate pd-gui.tcl /usr/bin/pd-gui.tcl /usr/lib64/pd/tcl/pd-gui.tcl /usr/lib64/? is this path still used on some (linux) systems? openSuSE? Any help greatly appreciated. Thanks. with a recent Pd you might have success by simply running: /usr/bin/pd-gui.tcl (instead of just pd). the foremost reason why Pd does not start, is that it cannot find it's own GUI component. you should be able to start the GUI by itself, which will in turn start the core pd - maybe with more success. fmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTRPl8AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4lzAP/2yts/OL9WjgJkrD+mOr0jdm bLQzSoiELiI44GN0nWjsuUkvDQlogTUov/+aT/j9UA5sQiC6MNzjCJloIWbdUEDZ 2XvfIHvNVjgK1np1Xy8crJBpyehUqCxgJBIRbVGMZFhcp63MP6KXp6Ubcl9nanrF JiKlwRVsnWfpTZCv4omz/SFxLxMYBeBfHjX/NsnOjqOh+RrlTHArqtgl+Z6+H8ss 9nw+IDvFurikgEfbhUpW2OamnOlCVdEJDjrI11AjgC3DtY2H0s4M9zvEw2DlJErQ pYOUKzLAlFXQyry2t5zBfHxPp6DSWteuIzcor96fCJ7eCIc0SgpUBJ4GyK/sH3qs /OUDjmuNWl0Di+q2YdnOxY30o2bG/9+hGw9BQZDbDrEaj2JZYSCnyIYoeWM6eLlU mS2lwkysMEmgfnunivS1UQTnXBZmRo+yF0bMu3DeBVQjZEo3YCiC3PqKuVqafuMj 3ncKDM0NLgTgrkM3GFuD1d1S0B6lHkOgx3EoqhVsnyTsJZ0gqTdE+KM3gLs7VPx1 R3bPMd7mH+aGZng4/BNSbwOYLAWH6AmDwUQel6cbE1OZ9k8R/9jYjAPPcunPDQIl h1QBYespLwtWHO9bdvQvW7aYx6egaDsO0YP65V4w3G1vOnIG1VxVA/JS3H6e7x8T D4Yn5CR6w2rUExPcLFxv =g0OP -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Loading arrays with arbitrary wave forms
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-04-09 02:41, David wrote: Any suggestions on how I could do that in Pure Data? [loadbang] | [1024( | [t f f| | [; mytable resize $1( | [until] | |+---+ [i -1] | [+ 1]| [t f f] | | +--+ | [t f f] || [/ 1024] | [* 3.141592654] | [/ 180] | || [sin]| || [tb f] | | | | [random 101] | | [- 50]| | [/ 500] | | | | | [+] | || [tabwrite mytable] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTRPrVAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ki8P/15TNi3xkzzFi9yQ6PGDq8ik EEgoQnDlLvr7yxuBe5+Cx3ZbgWiSN1bnHUnyjmbnz7xW3m8hdO0TjYH4q1OsZhGT ng7+HlWStgAzla5AMDC0zo7FOYPlOT6fh7CaugADoBg2yiFHLkj6e2Qo6XZxk+D6 ktaBU0tnIHa2xVwc77zRHVr8zSqL5fRArPy9DUq6ElB3FeAw+L9kv9/Dz+AqvPeK hNWSqsIf2vJr4VeufAiAGlRfFRzWUtTQW4rntwktYDyz6u6BX7WowqA0cmDRfwce SmHNnl3kSTvZMfeMEcIbwh0NxZ0CkWbm6xULHkEN/vt2CPjjS5hhl7hk3Pf5YgtV VOjMCDr200FkDjepkjbzKAC8HbiHFZk1voe6v1AJhB2mo1GkL9KD1gKhzRMqnU4j VqCO3bK1+ikGQdWrVKs3vcIeYHlVtjWRGTdSmcGSCBJS+3JnHRWkMDhmE8xfpmbC VZnf6cJP/dU0joEypeH8Rklj8gWq3O/SO5go4els86xcxFG84uWB3Pux6e0SbNG3 kZKx8zyUIonhMHamuGcVhfu617O9RYS8IEno2OFuaTUoOrM4mwEMKAekb0sRMVGM IWonEwNTPZIuErREhRB1sOsMGXE+LtVEj3LurS8D34fafXOxyFPjThC7bcYySkP9 R4egh1HAlBIx+YteH7HZ =kKlk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 64bit runtime error 'couldn't read file /usr/tcl//pd-gui.tcl'
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On 2014-04-09 10:01, David Woodfall wrote:
Compiled from source obtained from the pd project page, using this
method to package it:
i can think of three different project pages:
- - http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html
- - http://puredata.info/
- - http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data
./autogen.sh
CFLAGS=$SLKCFLAGS \ CXXFLAGS=$SLKCFLAGS \ ./configure \
--prefix=/usr \ --libdir=/usr/lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX} \
--sysconfdir=/etc \ --datadir=/usr/share/pd \ --localstatedir=/var
\
i guess these are standard configure flags for slackware builds, as
most of them are not used in Pd.
--enable-alsa \ --enable-setuid \ --enable-jack \
--enable-portaudio \ --disable-portmidi
make make install DESTDIR=$PKG
which OS are you using? your path only indicate that it is a
un*x like system, but it might help to know whether you are using
some obscure linux distro or plain irix :-)
Slackware linux 14.1 64bit
aha.
i don't have any experience with slackware, however...
% locate pd-gui.tcl /usr/bin/pd-gui.tcl
/usr/lib64/pd/tcl/pd-gui.tcl
/usr/lib64/? is this path still used on some (linux) systems?
openSuSE?
I though most 64bit OS's used /usr/lib64?
dunno.
i'm mainly using Debian, which has switched to a more extendible
scheme a while ago (using /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ and the like)
it also allow to put native libraries (e.g. 64bit libs on a 64bit
system) directly into /usr/lib/.
anyhow, Pd currently hardcodes it's system path to (afaict)
@prefix@/lib/pd/ (to be precise, it tries some more, but it definitely
does *not* use @prefix@/lib64/pd/ nor the more sensible @libdir@/pd
or even @pkglibdir@.
so i guess you currently have to patch your Pd in order to make it
work on 64bit slackware. something like the following:
sed -i -e 517s|lib/pd|lib${LIBDIRSUFFIX}/pd| src/s_main.c
fgasdmr
IOhannes
PS: pd-...@lists.iem.at might be slightly more appropriate (but only
if more issues arise)
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Re: [PD] [qlist] and locality
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-04-03 03:05, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: So, tried other things, and I see it won't be able to deal with messages including $0 like [qlist]. So the reason must be not related to [qlist] or [textfile], but the way Pd handles (or doesn't handle) $0 in messages. yes. The only workaround is to forcely insert $0 with [makefilename], yes. but then all symbols have to be local. no. you can build logic in Pd that will add $0 to *some* symbols. e.g. use [route] to extract those special senders you want to prepend with $0. note that i'm not saying that this could not be done more conveniently on the Pd side. i'm only saying that you can build things yourself that do (more or less) what you want to do. and it's not that hard to create your own little set of helpers that do what you want (though probably not what I want) btw: i would probably even recommend to use explicit *connections* (rather than send/receive pairs) for anything local. then you never have the problem of [qlist] and locality - very simple and forces you to think about your object interfaces. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTPRULAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4NioP/0Kyyz4MA+Tqq8890uEHGj9Z FZHEo5z/idBj7Z+WmAHrEipkIW70pnVBB4bVzC8owgV66AQZBuEqXMeJcIpu3MXK ULvsvxcFcoY9YH7hbJAF+mlDFvbh1CXcVbvEChZ8y5rz0XekSMf+//qUfJSlKTWX GXjJzw8s42yfSpVJYBjEh6fBFzlk2foLRFPFXaR6Cbj+Y7aNEiW//+Vim3nOzleT 6azYe0leLabir72nnWIKGahnT2GXgWkgxu6L//nTgsBYOa1COUoKOh44wvBbMSoW lbLduDY5drxJbyISGoZdsuailriv1xMGIkiSwTw4WSwVWBj2kv5MgoHC09ugqtLe bVHrizcP09+VUz20y8IMnXrRRgj8AU8Z+9xzZIzf9PV3U15zSlRqwZSFIwMCuhYs CeRqxtDFVsB/PARQoCys/B4QDjAszBPE2VC1xKSelBMjyGbvPyZA7uq/R199zLCy WMp0uu0+Q6WKa/zIB+sphLlifnXjYYXJaCGZNOzign1EJLOnBvOY/4zgE3bHtx9r FIlSFSMo6BrYjOEJvh/MxF90TawI/aCQ/MbEea0+finxJi2jp2PnMom+QbCvjfBa zLh8hlNP0tLp21Jo1ydzu0/vYb9mEzMQtpEv9lqrde0INcEKL9TaswFGf5TXyM7h JeTnSBV0Th0CjQER9Gik =oC+u -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [qlist] and locality
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-04-02 08:57, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2014-03-31 at 18:54 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi there, I can't get messages from [qlist] to an object with $0. Is this really a problem? You can: [pack $0 f] | [add 500 $1-bla $2] ah yes. i assumed (most probably correctly), that alex wanted to store the qlist to a file and read it back in a different session of Pd. and/or store a qlist with one instance of an abstraction, and recall it from another instance. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTO8AvAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ZLkQAIpZWuGsQZTyAz+DPXRW3Gyz UjhQzMXl3lRSOUuulxA/wTqjFnWsNgQxQH2v2PO+mxWgZL7I9D0JQW24sFrpzNdO zzyaH+i2F6ZQZPris+R71SarfMu8ovIuV4fX1m/2pUDxremPdjRnErwtiRlBu6DE qqxYOi/UYh1/ECSLIW01azr1d01d/C3bSkdYtnrOZGQJYz6VjpBpt8sFLyyPdMqO xbaYTRIezRx+LGXpgs2lEKO5c7DQJli0y4+a3DThO0arKf2BWL+VJ7DqNtJmnaj1 XgFMsm1wkXkDE3vlFqsnjMJnY2zWg8o247oUwnOK2R0ZFHHF7D/eYsKjOKgB8RCc CMoZu3cqq+CCZsl1QCfneoKN8DVRkxLSC3AoK0mpRlDSNK6CKBW7PpH2sc99My7R exnfXJxYKthREXt2GVrB5uD1wewMczg7rxAPo3wHNReYxItNd1TmjDb2d07/TmPg MN/OYp/UWF/LG45C3rENfLkPa8VT48P+I+cX2K8urlheC/2/jXaMZZb+slFjuTlp TvDnIGG9JzsUSQeWj71ILfvAXXHSrNH/9YmbdKuhhFSUe3qePUen8elgV7NOuoec KJcRGMViwqvtRpNVRjjirT9C4u/zV7x6xoPSdc4TINTtHFVheHTJF37xeWFkZZfX bQkA59PavXIbgvQmDPzM =XIxv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [qlist] and locality
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-04-02 09:08, Roman Haefeli wrote: You're asking for inconsistency: ++ fmsda IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTO8BAAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4dmcP/RW0yvBHDhPdMUoFMTHaZ/nk bVJyREBxx7bG1DlQYvMR5AF2Rrw/qeG31nxJqYyfVRjltgJLH4dnXBzrYqJ+0RsR kMG4gC23pOd8rl5Pbffwdk1VAAH6lpLdNVJC5C5oM5ZRzDI7o1C+MzBCkp/odqri 8xGpRHvD7d4fQ82ssBURu77DXstigYLs4hDMTAH2PKuLnNltA32WKOZdaQxveSbj n2ccXjpa8YoI++ixa9xqvKWbKcbMN77lzxiz7QD0DIPkwfOZU8V5iEgvj1nlzfrt L+0wWnVv5Xk6oT/yIIoUiWG6Jl0som7o/apwhAE03SNRRXCQrfqy1mKAmHHIDmB9 F3wigeAHivABGeS8WApS/jU4tdg3nXEcubBs7LmODD9DxbstJagSGRalqRm0fQ0+ 6+z6cQbm/cJTJN6QyuHstFD5z7ZXUu2jJUr5uo3BOqWVgncZSgV2BEaQF03j00KB 59YcXA1eumGyaUYR82FQCwWKPZ8xzjIemwlvduGTuXdv87U0t24KnEgLyV3t5E6j 8RovAzwrmjTGw5zOO29Sk8S/2wDYq+hvCv9FplpSEMsI0PWewWkO+riCRxcpRQH6 Mbd7PVbWUJLiOiOEqsSsGEw7soWnfpY3ZRumqmKFquQYCFXPaXJsGjQSfPynzuBv BnLautFgF6OXn4Q7UY4z =DvZ3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [qlist] and locality
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-31 23:54, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hi there, I can't get messages from [qlist] to an object with $0. Is this really a problem? yes (at least: yes, i expect that to make problems; you might want to see the messages sent by [qlist] the same as messages in msgboxes, where you don't have $0-expansion either). however, it's fairly trivial to build a [qlist] from [textfile], [delay] and [s] where you can do whatever magic you'd like to do to the receive symbols. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTOms0AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4cjEP/jh/AyPAtefrXya26f7ph00z yFo7DI1o2dVgkXr8GOZa0/6XL0K0DWzeQFxd5P+a0TnSoNQ1+2JV92UGJjCX74Ub lWVwS6hXLgVHlUxmLZVQiq5yuIrWb3vqol1Ji70fmzt2hxn8VgSJ/DxxyMcVs28z hDSppMXTOg3ebUMq8YNOmYp0yWqAxLlW/qAPkywWMqxCUbxHYiTTfaMcyc3jcwbZ wP8oLTSWk2AdflS7zDCbrM1V+sB7yBiTm39pJK9jfjTH2ttjEbcUOo0VyD68lf+9 VGtvdt3fSzu3F2RljzppaC/n6Z32iCu5Kc/VulGM9Dya8K4cB6/icnxcjcNUtNlw 2anJWEQ/RpCxRA/J3NJRDo1Ml63r45ze0OESZboV1hEUUcU6vmXwFMWsCoxsNbkk RdQ8pTp5hayCLtJIwT93KLpZcpgNh6I2f1L84N8qOUQaaBhuqziSDH7BW3ngsNFw yTWpSmTJ65l7eusRsXDstNV8LLaANY4cvGsvwlKmi+Gu7ySRMn66tjkFSzWhb5c+ rxhocOpa+MiDOF5dAzE7ER6K1Guk/Uq52N276rniyegHOwtcPLYh1pND9WzMLRU2 RRFbM+XxWT4TbZ2VWbH9HYBP6v/iBdvOi18WhGLLJYRZH0xze/O+qtTIw5TDWgag mbBItM5lwmBpcXzi3IWi =/TRx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Compiling zexy in Udoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-23 11:07, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: What am I missing here? an outdated zexy version that uses bashisms in it's scripts. either do: - - get a recent zexy (e.g. from svn) or - - (quick workaround): change the shebang in makesource.sh to read #!/bin/bash or - - change the default shell to bash (you probably don't want this). you could also bugger the author of zexy to create a new release that has this problem fixed. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTL/csAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4gPYP/jwCVmRzuseW1RQ4KAM8qs49 UFdEjX5eGPGPgCpjB20/XFPgHFC52g9/JRB3AWOhZy7Jy03UM/+owBJ4pZDRHVEV MXL8U8l+Oie7CM8xfXiwC0msFXsmhGI/WQNNC0oAyR3Om6XmOfPd9q+6Lr9/6eLq hxyYlgazS1j7alEyXKReyhFY9gXODycCG6+urxYKLFVwz1FQt4wT7Hpn1RgLZuhM XuVjjyX4CB1hVyaJudofH8mQGVbNgr0FPI+8ON9TvdvHGoQFXMkrN9FlA0FlcaZb BQZ/PTbIHKXtMlKqF2VByObrbJ8acLa9kWehXE6KJX3MLFhODvWpUf5de7CmR3Gy +XOaNEoxdlAY/iDceQmnKbHtvw5eE8ifDVlHFG7rAo3a+adPY9q6SBDgwRQdaLhR Nj865/b9Shr1V0PSWq6u/veTDC4ONRZbp0Uh9R/H9KpKqES5heuRAbzE3tlxSFcj jawCjbXeWEkdmPzhabFvms8The21XmCQsAnObm6jnvBqkJoh+4RsK6i1yjYcICWJ 4yYaymbiFTArL7kbnDi7yQyRWoq6wPyRWOGYhmvZC/ed0VDo8cYLpS9f7eZWwu1C 6Kyhm91ruj397rrj7TiT7cbs7RnUSjcg62B5YIV7BkA/0HZG66eH16czZI3WYYNk HrzMR8ES8TGHiMGRbDPF =EBtj -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] ANN: New Pd-L2Ork x86_64 and Raspberry Pi 20140319 release candidate
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-22 17:03, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: Apologies for x-posting. i seem to remember that i have asked you this question multiple times in private, but never received an answer: is there *any* reason to make your announcements via pd-list instead of pd-announce [1]? all emails to pd-announce are forwarded to pd-list, but some people are only subscribed to pd-announce (as they are not interested in day-to-day discussion). btw, anybody can post to pd-announce (all emails get manual moderation and are allowed if they are a proper announcement related to Pd somehow). (resending because apparently the original was rejected because I was not subscribed?...) no. it was rejected because the mailinglist has a built-in cross-posting reject rule. see [2]. hope this clarifies the problem. fgmasdr IOhannes [1] http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce [2] http://ccit.mines.edu/Mailman-FAQ#29 - -- IEM - network operation center mailto:n...@iem.at -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTL/nmAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4M3IP/3g7PwBdzgANOur/McPFOmuV RAFcyrJJ91zdY1a2nqKEw/ZJaxdsXpTS9PcUIcBeA11rrKhIpT21sYQAQfZcTto7 ALILdBvMyeg1+gcqgI2MXAdpeuJ5GaSMTwe/yA6PjLtdApUyqfrwio38A97tTM0t XbnX/g2eBljMl8zJXqgo8jCf6HzrHVIz/drrny7TYP19pJ4E4Gaav/6wP6L+On5F pdao2wh/6q1MAV8+y7FE/kGWkEGLFoAjtUYNOnis4KNv8SEaKhRAa+83W65tWiRc lwj/dUIJ8AT7VZjQpYuxkEIu7u8CVEaAZJ1Ln/JxbdsiCE6ITX+J1QWhUOo4QAVX GZUnvChWiT0NVuLl0Iw1MPF7e+netlM8Oma80UzUpL7BCbizZOYdKJs44DusZ48p cK0W7z58pX5psCMopECq0Y+MYv4B1M7pHidH4a4OMbyzUF9L/AfD6NqTJDE2TH5U HPCXJ2DT8c9tsIN2tQ6VKwOoxFjnoxsw3L696TTBLampn0KmRfNQKZXKUHFKBDUp XQLd4fT7ao0nvrDGdXT10cZY5glnklGXSDeg4XX58Y46NTOfva3A6OVTP/zHP8sn mFndutNRQF4PBvWCREeTJp8r3uYvIJW1zgg3lrQYTmR0OicX9MKfdkRoxlWi+9En pX8nkF4Dyi06vw3p5F1w =xzaR -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Compiling zexy in Udoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-24 10:13, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2014-03-23 11:07, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: What am I missing here? either do: [...] or simple do # apt-get install pd-zexy (i initially missed the point that your Udoo runs a Debian-based system) fgasdmr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTL/pFAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4B3QP/3lumJix+HxshBe1X5wvbh+c 31N4NB74I65w6WMX5lIYRSzY+LZh5NR18ys/9F3JXso0c/rPS/qmKIPqVCmDZv73 Y+IyQWyuuln4/8VdQzYVcS+nwX1ao/T5d7VvAkgsk77qO9MUzATVxIM3pWhr0j+q /gJ4nx/9M3SXUr8ALGaQJJcl9u6/0lftkrZvlwjx7xiQdFEckj1xeio440lEgdLG m9nru+2IixHyRkEg7mfCo5qdUGBmcDtfGqu0ppDVeFf3o5HdsMEhVkGTVINCIuLE G7en9oFVh2kLFqvay3ZM+c3IenU3hiE86JyweqHohFiglmHhCwZKnV+21t5mCLNd 5suQoVMnebOJfFN8xvqM2lEzMUHpBTSGGlP6Y7JGIahzUjC2Ul8iNkf31NW9yA3N m2Ogza7Au06FoWR7JRmbAJxpubqjOi57kCbFtnFZ/ExNQm+attmSPOAwQJtrlvP6 5c/zg1pDYhAxAsxNthSM3WePpwtZcFye+4TVSo+EjtW/LIgY+liwG1lVkB/Gzdci g0hZwcBK3RJd+Sw89oO5u+tH91G5ITMe4tDlBEB4q79lnFuDi1xjkc2nAdop873P opsWpU6ruChEkd+dSFxEL2B7kkdvBbH20BhVu58I4tHSd6hSGi8N6Yfv3Y/rrKUG ZPxKJXmjKQPDZrX17Ol4 =I7kv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Compiling zexy in Udoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-24 10:38, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:26 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: On 2014-03-24 10:13, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2014-03-23 11:07, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: What am I missing here? either do: [...] or simple do # apt-get install pd-zexy That worked, thanks! Can I do the same for other libraries, like iemmatrix? many (but not all) libraries for Pd are available as Debian packages. however, i don't know which system your udoo is really running. it seems to be Debian based, as you can install packages via apt-get. but which version, i don't know: some of the pd-packages have been in Debian forever (like zexy, or Gem, or ggext) and some have been added only recently (like chaos). almost all pd-libraries have package names that start with pd- or puredata- - afaik, Gem is the only exception, which is simply called gem. you can query your system which of those packages are available with something like: $ apt-cache search ^pd- fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTMAMuAAoJELZQGcR/ejb420UP/jIP3cpsTSj1Tu3eJW07LXyd cVh5z6UiT1q/gF776OtuzyUpZ4QC6t+Z4f8jQqSvQhKvJr70lQtua4EHabRmWYFQ C0W3wUqPEchV3b3VJxYrGM/i60YQkeRuGQ0WzFuneZd8ANTF/H8VwGtxj3yZL/4M xY7Rc03nrAFN2iJjXUiwn3zIwXkgaPVuiPPiL5vPwxI1pCvx1uxXpPRmTdUuzbvR sjeFyY0zo3lgR5NaqoqW8in0kW8qpf0Hl5WEYd+ko5WDQhGA3OUm40AFImD80IOS UikzW0HbZJuaFgPG2mv8YxbfVCoEmDJ9d0J4mGvMkgzywNxnLMMMDznKzaw6sYrd 7T3yA5DfVSyXzyo4YjxR63kM2DTKgFg9oac7sRa+dzwyZdr+KWkIs2s0tMkHHdln HoeCTgyoFkLIm6YgEmEoxUcZh0REpLbKuekAbz0rSaHoH3gFvCxJg/1q0ip8HRhB rbT6Z/iG/eS9BnFq3L2ElpgQPmbC4GUknA3EMZR7a5SnzQBpj8OQhc9mC1mPEbu/ SxOiI9DJp3xyf0a3dYRjurzkRss0kRkKKe1hXnmb8PAFdNUSScQX5V+tCicA5W1k PUujSGe8lgvvTDuQq1pcEWNfsJKFtpASwujG289LU1yppv+x4hupCoDHaZEiLiBu IA17o2U9+2bWYvK/FAN1 =1rog -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Compiling zexy in Udoo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-24 10:26, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoel...@iem.atwrote: On 2014-03-23 11:07, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: What am I missing here? an outdated zexy version that uses bashisms in it's scripts. I got it from here ftp://ftp.iem.at/pub/pd/Externals/ZEXY/ as the link given herehttps://puredata.info/Members/zmoelnig/news/zexy/?searchterm=zexywasn't responding. Is this outdated? yes. very much. (in the future it might be handy, if you mentioned the download location in the initial report) either do: - get a recent zexy (e.g. from svn) from the terminal? Haven't done it ever, what should I type? I'm on osx. this depends on your svn installation. sourceforge provides an easy way to download a current snapshot. e.g. http://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/svn/HEAD/tarball?path=/trunk/externals/zexy or - (quick workaround): change the shebang in makesource.sh to read #!/bin/bash This alone will solve it? I guess, since you're mentioning it.. most likely this alone will solve it, hence i mentioned it. on the other side, the version of zexy you are referring to is almost 10 years old. there might be other bugs preventing compilation on newer systems. you could also bugger the author of zexy to create a new release that has this problem fixed. Aren't you the author? in this case, you might bugger me to create a new release. but first make sure, that the problem you are reporting still exists with the newest release. fgmadf IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTMAVJAAoJELZQGcR/ejb48b8P/iNacEQIiHfhtLIe1NUe8Pef y4XkAQPVl6ft5IJbv5eI4y+9WwHQBUdOGq7aOutuAYskAzIdHI8sCuh00kXnnsV6 pi5PBFIZfsBnAoZNqeNKViF/XkXLZ32IEiFVgBQF8GpGiFr0/NDRPkv2LnqjzGyK Jy1ZD8AsVbkrWS10RyVZoOs+YkwKERhuGzoP0GjPHTLfONDpkBozY6+e/tdCLcfO VwWroXXWLZLA7oRJoeWPz0yESivon0/Oq/LHwYkxlTt2dzU0JHpyxDzm+d4GyZ87 FxE/AO//mQhOKO303A3lGXZ4nQb56y8o7FYmUvfjQFH5eYqWlQTKg/bKteqMOQDP tO4xOG0S+0j6qgsNTTPtscdk4NAZbnanJ4EIyOErHLOysXSsNZLQ7Lslc88+KWBB uBi9eMs+M2Vm7rldCxRUqH+Lt0te8/cBfvnPDr5iFXPRCVAlgxHbe/VZPIhchaLq Ktb49hMa1iXXg/ZOOYACwiUpMBJv9wMzOtIW+joaCtN20wrrd5p8PghGdhfHSipu nxKk3eFTW76WHePGje/qE6FfrwXXP37KUQGbBbgkhyKOlUnm09pWXSUvhSYrRR7Q GsgybI2jFgUhKJ9Ssp85VC9uldzwfXN25DR/dJ9SoAxQRFBc1nTl+gfJ/K7GdWR1 wmET+9nRnGoPPSL/A/gU =/+xT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pdgst and gstreamer1.x
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-20 10:56, Etienne Landon wrote: Hi list, I'm trying to compile pdgst with gstreamer 1.0 version, with no success. Is there an easy way to achieve this ? I see the makefile is filed with 0.10 gstreamer includes, I tried replacing them with 1.0 but it gives me an error (no multichannel.h found). I guess it's not a clean way to do what I want. I'm on Ubuntu 13.10 64 bits (tried mint16 64bits also) My main reason for doing this is because I use decklinsrc a lot and with 1.0 version gstreamer added the possibility to use two of them (for what I understand) Any tips on this ? i'm afraid gstreamer0.10 is incompatible with gstreamer1.0. this basically means that pdgst hast to be ported to the new API. i'm open to pull requests on github :-) fgmnasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTKwonAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4vQ8P/2YIF8y8CNxeM+T1Pwa0Xf0m 4YotgI/5fdN+lWIAR9UwTyCMOHwHWFtE51Qm+bX6OrjOw1N8S8LhdfEjn14G/KCn NuCF4VRojhCUXwOncCSrFK1z3iKA2jDFHmyXsnWQb27ifn9QAg1dVM29DWJdvLMt 9g8J+LoIphuWxvy85x0gwjKkTQ16EJnCtabXHa75FVxYT4ITc5DmdOYaJO1ZApQk bYH/yXPSM1uTfTcr0Uq+JQSMN/RBiHdKnw0LL8XCLxjBgb8uPg5NFWtk/pJrk5XE ZYFRENynqEHh9e6lg9sMvK6pfx4M/whOJMPTHXP4IuVJb87doO76cfVNgkmqIt7a b1RhFdtAz75Z+o/j8yqnVvaw47bNg5+TOyyeXR4XcUWT/Ezh4u5dGL++RoxYKswh nGy5dS1yE9JuVcxIY/lRD/7qcTOBhjEL15PZACP/xN7jM6wtZaaCMBgcYXhlVmzI 61SczK9q3Oq7o1s6MN8dNrKVw5fvdSoeOsexL/CoRHeTsz4+bRyjxDHGfp+/E4nX l7YTamApYMC7NrF4CY6KxH6J/SfghC8q97mL2G9P6KnT/0Cjat+mhE2UNJyUD9HX m+QbZtqDuniCZsMOKMpjoEhyLmI2YyyFwi4RLSHCHAtv3XwEj+Zy8Adf0Ybf4IOU llyYgCpCUGtplMb4ONZR =q5Dk -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] sending sound from pd to sc3?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-20 16:43, lucrecio diaz wrote: Hi list, how can i send a signal from pd to sc3 ? I need to be able to receive the sound that pd is producing for processing it in supercollider. any idea which is the best way of doing this? jack? madfaer IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTKx5xAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ONUQAISo2PTbMFB8b0/r8yI9NtlT vV9IaY5hWgI0X68ig9xm4C5NldZOoRBlTV57Q+TDgYozQ+VopwoKKqK2McvGA0NP 261f+utkNLEjN8lBGNnX41P2WZAmgrd6D2DGK7mZ/a7IoA3l2IlMZTmSS84oZutw 14ySDW2fPhnmlnawTSTsjZsNSDi7mdztdITKQ4mwcHULVUyfXbNn2wpoNSKpWlvb 8e/GaLgyc/dtvmzgcd16tYCGBoJfe0MCa1LgQs88MOoXHZXa0llflBbpihqtsNLp UpU8v9g4XxcqFmFAkbUqG7iCLSC/+uZnFA4gjUNCZMF41/T1IbVl6fk6f7d/ueOH +ANd92N7rad4C5YrravY01sdAXTeTtDoDSJCjUTd0VkB+nW/kPTXZiNztYCnYPNB rLxgHLPKGbLEThcX3PudlsAOQGDeipgupZj62sELtLxaSahyAFQTgyoJUgu5JOZ5 epWOEzv/fF6LgergdQRtb1mOiNrZl/wawIrjs6EhX+uugkVolRMSfajQsfzGlpwC i6RUZSFZ4hGg8aDx9q+Gf6RFo1NotAcojettfp+8bsy4DdG8dRLjWyeEllwZp/1x wUJuOJHttlDe8q2/QJsbTsnusOLmMnV/qWoig9rvWHB6Ob1xmTB3+SUFAOaoLG3R de0QYS50MCr8YK8udX7C =FQGN -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 100k lines of code (was libpd separating gui from core)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-18 21:37, Billy Stiltner wrote: what's wrong with making the file select dialog an atom? allready works in all the oses. just fan it's innards out some outputs do you have a public decryption key for your message? i'm totally lost. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTKV+dAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ElsP/2i3IKRml/ooRXKWONhrJSCw FahtJFVUZswKfiFchfT3eu5+2ogxe4dkHdDnxdi1nLVIQu8hhxBTXc0S4F94Q/31 O6eHwYp5SP9vdcAJS0VFvSm1EbmbOvU7cxERa5rCzGUYCkiFbLN6y0hQRpcqOA25 UHq1k2CW6PDf02VAuTBkV5xzKmu04dmFmjbbMicvL+ywmwRL0beRU6JvQK7UqNZW 8b+B6cErKmNQlh6/3Mj3KOJ6fIjm8lHcsbzz4csioX9YyMEmy0TX94CFcSujXaIt 44tNoY7mDH7pMUfROFdzJ4a5RgNOmiKLc7iTlC0O6/ukUqxFBzuNINMyyxnqHzLX cKhCLIVlmFtQ3VQC3PiAtlqTB4g4qCIZjW47jcN3RF53r23Xdv1/EqfjTcmQRU8z UlkrF2E929zCBrQrLRIdLX8qlmO8bx1N2LcmI/lXDwN0NReIoDFzlJk1sCD38nvh mx4wa3RoEKhTFhy6bPsxnU6mMf18NYDRn7z81NBzaNvL84NMLj6THWWLL9xoR7RD YX1pDEkbVcTVxrMeUXEi6T15q1wXRMwK2+CavXXGBP517gJeWdvD/xdD+lECkxb3 CJgLuZ8qhrUadGrZlyBMPudRNYtC3DpcPLSAyWqdJBkw283RZ5sdHM69y24aCH3Y RQxH1ip8FYJ/6RQRhEDu =LJ+y -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] HD 1920 X 1080 (Mateo De Los R?os)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-14 12:21, olm-e wrote: (I did a small fork of it on github - https://github.com/Olm-e/pdgst - do a pull-request or open a ticket on my umlaute/pdgst. fgasmdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTJsmvAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4HB4QAJRGbkhMQRot/x23tvTKgJCg IY8LSEje1j6/nmy+/r71J7yT08DkoMJb6w4ESJNCkQgghw7Mj9HQ1Xv7819rkTuA tOjdS2E2WBFwzji0k8o83U1oRDy0k8by7bbgdlGgyly0BcjNl9vTvwWIcelcYdye Zt5ihK/7DjSwPPsT2Jt3vYr/Dr5hyydrJpj35BL6zO3GQMhzTMR51Yw5tKZZ9jpW JKure+WGUqjNYFj9O3SFdUgD2PAortFy5vQw2AdsmHEGJpJSFID+rphS6jzI90yX nIwdi2cioZaIezlnK50E/XdxaNJkRjvcH/y2Ze4Yx7KAuy7+mRVvYIS39wLA6Ohr xbJJXiM0eUT+mecr5f5WzEq7tdziMQM2HdXhLqbW54EXeF/I4bcItuuL2kRZgO+Q 49xK3T61uEFOaZRi5tq03jUdOrbIfYU1szaEDasgYNJR0QcIAjvDUzE2bR4eDbJJ gZYfaamEBQAaLKq3IM7IawFVvMqa5Q0ShZ6mDDPiwCTPbTKxYqYoj1HrITUT/ehl jdDVUOBHrughsn6D7uMdD593MQJCEbc3nF2xa1Gt/RnLSyqQ/F2nPV6cFXqsIP83 JTStNWGgW06a1nmNd63qSHBsvS9zuwqcQGvR8A/SliRDhYIT0JNfOaDs5ovvfvDa Ga5jS+fO3uUN8u9YxdV1 =fxwz -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Peak Level detect in Vanilla
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-11 01:31, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: well, I assume they can be more efficient, but my only point here is what I said already and that you agree with - peak level should be available, do you mean that Pd should come with a set of abstractions for standard tasks? because peak-level now *is* available thanks to roman's patch. fgasd,r IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTHskPAAoJELZQGcR/ejb40cIP/1Kxv//ZD8dCEUMyQ9jgFgPx 0d1EklZpO3ZiwijiWwfwnTixTS+7i61Gp5BMRJx9ZXBO9KQ8XrHHg+2FlD4XHYVU bWkgtVxqpoCvYt+oKfb3Jh0CTXNFEErP3y17rls9kxK9VIQk8wCRZRU3EPIFBnPO jcAUZxG55lilxyb7N4JYlGVIBhVLL3YSo1snl8bMcV2SiUVZlvH81gwCJCLWZ1fS V1laBXxxTVzzxACF+GhYTuykGQ879pMS0TBfn9aq3vMbXPuEPm82RZIDR31XGYmy ZpQauXmje8b2skS/wYpwP/nmgwOUgmlKm8fPDBrO4BZ1BJbusFHCJXGu9v2XcuTA VG+6jm8PQMzwsRS+E4p7/juo5/QcoSvosjv4jOpA1+LEVkQd1nrTptI8+ZUAwGj+ oSmfY/Xajrvc/RS+NadInku6KSvbHxwx+jcMT2C7+1twdRNa9KHWESzx/Qpae2Yl qK8hv0TVekhAM8RyDcIGDsbwmypfHyvGQgri/+HRW5Bec6/Ym31bYfXPF+mrOGCH kQiVwbt28hdrwWN3TDtNyBxE5+szXOGyIQXs+/lxabNmXY1UX3LtWUoZcienA74r eFdL9IGRl2vRTtMoY691pJyBDNPSch8R6Eh3AKOIiJxM7C/+t5X6AnWfyLAFZQ89 r3cJRawoBwPQ3uLsvjKh =kaRE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] 100k lines of code (was libpd separating gui from core)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-09 14:29, me.grimm wrote: Hi Miller, I know you probably have more pressing problems but it would be nice to get something like [getdir] in vanilla before you hit those 100k lines of code OR 50 years are up :) that's probably badly spent lines of code. if we are hitting the max-lines-of-code boundary, then we should focus on getting things into Pd that are not doable via externals. just imaging we had a Pd that had built-in objectclasses to convert between all known currencies, but still no way to create abstractions with a variable number of iolets. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTHYYqAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4rB8P/2zROAF9jlYKDaRKf3EGXaLM hD/LR5jcalDcz9ZuyikYQNfLZFRc+kQ+ydgXRbnWzbeQPykidRaBWNq7mvoqG8Ok gVSxPfTzSDkfaCAJGUVNGKRrkqrvEzym80NtDrmBD8xh9PV/mN0kESE00bVciedL ZqJO36gI/Y89r13QkWTPSiWMyQCuIZGaKTTiCAB/v3dBA7DAbM1PzO+UbUtJqn5b PVGlegxbJ48h9i8hW46b+vJ5p/OmF2FRImPcvLb/11XF2gDxbMRTllzpaX2C/ZgX n7oyA+5QJDJpD8Zof6xhel4w11ChZXmRWWQRFY2mPCDPEOwaqspNewZB/5cFqjFo hvUi97WRbV7gkt8eMHYNxDp35tZ2tAaiKT8Fx2Hlv/64soC34rexvBsPLg/+/au9 BkK9HsHHwFnt46Bycj+u4sU37xYIzFlRbzMr25amO/u3V6IS1kSrY2aQcPem+pkU u7Y5cgQ8dB5/FMbNPqMVoKDimmGp6lfm7tw4dI6KiFXaAxOcHNwsfKvrvosSEwil XvmLjUctdCORea1gdT4hALIsqkzNlbjwc4ri9/4iQN4JtL/aDoDl9Ksy3J40DLqq rrEYkJsTjK6Y3RKSiAU97DeT4bPm3XPgcSLxZKd4GzZdyfIBo7oNdmayCIPFevFh WeghHVXHn9Akxed+qZYK =msXT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] KMI SoftStep foot controller?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-09 14:15, Roman Haefeli wrote: k ... for me [packOSC] didn't work with [netsend], I didn't investigate why but just used [udpsend] instead. [netsend] is different from [udpsend] and [tcpsend] in that it sends incoming Pd (list/any) messages as FUDI. The latter two expect lists of bytes (list of numbers between 0 and 255). [packOSC] outputs OSC packets represented as lists of bytes and thus is designed to transported by either [udpsend] or [tcpsend], but not [netsend]. well, starting with Pd-0.45 [netsend] has support for binary data, which makes it compatible with [udpsend]. you have to pass it the -b switch though, so [udpsend] == [netsend -u -b] [tcpsend] == [netsend -b] gfmdasr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTHYbdAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4T1QP/0uOBXE18IewHTufIKIqV0yZ 7K0dcDRW16MsATSPeGcv2nBU+UAls5dzZrI9Nkg7KPd7vBrooYQPWNs9MJAwTAja p/jHMFRHL6EGU9VRhDPO60L4o4zSu2UOOA2X2dbx57P2gdAaFBVla8/DnkpuEfAf OO00Y2PY5jub9HaTLpCsXU2x4YQL4/EKK+skr2qvVguSn6zIVmVLIPjY/Q1ImjyD Fc3Pxmy/+V920/Tk8pwQ5Bwh/cI1mfGMx+cYKuoOPioBe4zOcSuUWe5pkaK+Nhbf LBHEJK1vhawwnGTaKrBUVDa4Uifui2rsIRJReC7HCeeTHXy0clcJA93ar6dkXBEu tpzq2QiWnXXLmMN+Yn2RD4Z7ReOdRMg1Qureia3KmzIu2BZekPt4eoLVSoPKvvPf qNAA3+luoPA7UTBQhxPtk1SBnRnwbsXrByWs7dQoT5d4aEfjXQsAhH1kpme+7+E2 UpeAPpoIyI03DHYId1TbBFpeZGy2ZtfhflueQmjpQ41fUUEE3NINxYr0AiqatowU bF2ZW/AK9GDGpw9NZxEazbPsz+VgYC1lS/WsXzMY4UYms1nYxEjXDnjAqE/omCCe bKRHD4i7ipEs6rthh+AZ14MNAJOk0K1V2izyGgkGEAJANtvWGV9JdEYr5IiuJHwo Atn8bd7M6YyfNnAA0U4K =eYgf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pix_buffer loaded event
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-03-06 15:25, Martin Eckart wrote: Wow, thanks! You've fundamentally changed my understanding of [trigger]. I didn't realize it actually waited for the operation to complete before sending the next event. oh. this is somewhat crucial to understand how Pd works, and is covered in the documentation as depth-first message passing: http://msp.ucsd.edu/Pd_documentation/x2.htm#s3.2 you might want to read the documentation of Pd whenever you find time (or a sooner) :-) fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTGKWAAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4TT0P/jj/t9YtIuRYcVAv9fcBFYUe XFf1p4U3hLzUe4L8hKD2rxlFNUSBk4gy9TglTGycOdc8VO9fpCA7mr9Ikb1YgQxS 6TJOcSjutmvdnUSbgFzTxKW1ykek/g6CBM/MWbZRONtTRbSgtpyRHiGHT2rWvdUF FAMAuqVMV010V2bOm3TdsuDXsBPM4f5qTizbu78l/5TQGVFPVyH6ZERdzqCsAFmv SPEGo4yW+3JXUOXMi/nGlDYvHg5FqtUR5alMsaeNYjI/7yckdfAaOfSUWBOmckPQ b2owYXUxrk9VK9w45el8gLnqG2cOG5qD5qHR51FlcXxTF/0+2vAgeYHu0ikBtII8 GQSlcyg29qVlDvg4WSpcmkWYUT7gc8nmkxCojk97jq3JHqgDy6FPEzi+YR/fWU6H ZjgdJP60jIgqOM7jxU4Xncb8FIwgGNffHxDlvutJ12smLLx13oFkdNRP7LTNTuRZ 0dPFcH0fFBn50mRMFz2JfvEFUQ569TNd8EECioUrPq5iQc0cGyOX+28kCfVbwlBj y0bUUPfoLvSu98c58Bs2+kYeYaH4iWHIyIctBGf/BGXbR+6QSm7Js/QKh13Of08P Yew9OIrVrdsVg0SJpCDsl+jbfrTyQSncbc9T4u9dVrQPSB19IysJXb4IRwP8MaAw mgRFJCaV8d/yq8FU815f =snsL -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Strange behavior using custom external
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-26 23:22, Robert Esler wrote: The strange behavior is as follows: this all looks like memory corruption. run your patch through valgrind and see what it gives youl. fgasdmr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTDvwUAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4Qi0P/ji5fm5B/qi5B4GRZX4nloR+ n9ehs2cfMoInVovsi8i5DYbRjVyzWI2nYyH0J7KAw9GE4/goe1pnLnw2Gz2U619Y S19D9H9cJ2yvxMFtI/3uQACkjVp50zXlyZhOKxibg86duXwQwk2iJEUUTCkjIhiG tAppLejg5iAZDwLbCNuOHZSgopNkWOZ4dTZRg1Afgm99JtDuOMaTjBZEfZRO1zjy TQJ6TIV8FiHjep10J3vcq3Wi7EcVv+wCc/T3UXVKz2LVieO3tX6k0b5zXb2/qWSx fRCTJN5hfMSwRG2FWbmWt18HgZk9CgdFdLf54+9pT8v9/y3I7mfFpMCKmY41iebZ Kyis5jhKyssI5dCiyTn9Td8X7XCWNbS0txW6ckupMkQ0yh9yzqxQZoR6T72mrZbi w7V7NsDMp+vc7/8/i5/8fV57+fjbcb0ROcv7hnS2RBFIMZleK8TaSAK6c+NBpDlk /a4IAUUH0vsOioXbV6N6LczG4LwZ0ej0+IXJKtiVDjjcHDCmUU2l31XhwBhnkVNM /8MieOQpifr014ojAVF7n20V/i4Fj/YlPHEo9brhFRUV0F4kbUy6tb+DUWeCLccm OPuq6ONan4MYcwuVPiCKqOK8sBxFiwjlncpq3IQnBbPJmW/vB8bpL9el+sTqMVQt JxDA22+6RebJcRms1z0O =MmDO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] RjDj/ScenePlayer for iOS?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 hi all, what are the options these days to play old (or new) RjDj scenes on an Idevice. RjDj.app is gone, and it seems that there is no ScenePlayer for iOS. fmdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTD2LwAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4sSYP/iOYGFVTcOLU+49DCw+ZEjNO MiFLV9IAvvD2GOAdu834stW3IbR7yC4fJIin4ntacepQub+1PAIgGJpU9KbZmVdJ 4a3vnlpouw0sTmkO9wNn4aec6IeGGSOb0TLqyOD+7MyVwRwfGKwQ0t1LWlMOy+G9 UYcnefOjFVcQTjCks/qD7g9J3reWF4NtPROmSHDT49t9jdbFta9vxOq+pj1fM83M 7HRueRPWXzrtUv2tFueqCiolJUuBwirMiaaXXqXN1wy61qejv/jcbXXCiOuCdTXT OTHbJNib6v8rInOATipLHCinU3C5Hgn7ShQ13fTOM120bBNgMvVGwXVjrYhJYtw+ tcJ+7J+U+NHBXZ94VY7gxsEfYkQgKliUuobQs2ooxq+jPtq4jvSDuP2o76iIFzrA VvFNnNz2fo+jdm2S0ezy+2ehwAcBw1UCLJA/4MBsSWp5KhXm5XTttROii0kiOfMa WlWcB2EjQ58DtiKwYTRuzRok4VdSQE+CIciJgchPgswVLDoV7aEo5eaoqRbaF+Rc Ya5KZn14KyWmpJeEpqRBIkLSoQB2VIdVC0/SyX0MuhVwgypBB8yLc3FYFVxegSmK RXUqdevZkVv7F+ruVyUNYO9hOkU4OYtLYGMo63A+Y5CbWTwlzdNeVzV6oBQTPxv6 qAzKMUlLQq7TMS+7hO06 =BPaY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-26 09:40, Pierre Massat wrote: I don't need to know where I installed pd-extended from (I'm too young to suffer from dementia). I said it's there in the Ubuntu repos because this is where I got it (not from puredata.info http://puredata.info or anywhere else, and certainly not from a manually downloaded archive). afaik, there is *no* pd-extended package in ubuntu (proper), check [1]. most likely you added apt.puredata.info to your sources (e.g. as described in [2]), and then simply installed pd-extended via the software-center, like any other package (without manually downloading it). fg,adsr IOhannes [1] http://packages.ubuntu.com/pd-extended [2] http://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTDa1JAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4sMUP/RfLa3OjspXtgR3Tl74gJNyz Zn9WqIbqfrRMijfJIzVcSbzicAA7rCVvZ6DciIsnpi5gNEKxl+9PJPuKar1rPN5e lAuYpQicCtyG8s134sSWhJpNoOHkbrNnyPAlYTZc3qPAdIG7uF9BAmB98Cb4ByFR G8h0s1k1J7fxXVzx0UBBrce/B0b2EfVUCj4Z5o7MDDcJx756gkcx0Ptu5CsECmUH xCE9bx0sQfyx0UP9eT6+MC6+nx5BgwNMrl458ZX9i5XdQzRem4lrrpyB3CYtlvD5 SjYR7oDnQwmSq12TRnlj19wtTJTmlFM/g5JAotlmsby5UXHDVxsQ2c+r3ec5GACj C482rBxEDxA1vDOE/eR9mTPYyJeenw4lhKxppB9kdY/Xcgc5Ou7iqyXJBfY64qnx prt7e+JZWsOyTBA28LRluQ+uTekxfj5pZS9SEguDHO+XH/5HFLfq5R2Svo8Dy9hU 3r6NrAiF5uzs3p6G26ScXkke1OnNEwIhSmweZi0e6TMv0+eHBeTGfSoXV2UnVpXP taWouUJD1li6fEqu7GhsZ+UxW0CSV45OG1KYUOJzlEFApjHLjWFdZ+H0MQKhTUVF sLHjN4VtXR+cOOq7nadpyWEmE531LlWmPQijIFndUZa4SKwjl9WiIv9wz9gA5oa+ 1/6CBuMqulniISL5aiga =R7QF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Bugs in Pd-Extended in Ubuntu LTS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-26 10:27, Pierre Massat wrote: I might have indeed added other sources, so Roman and IOhannes are probably right. Still, knowing that doesn't really solve my problems, does it ? it mgiht help finding out which version of pd-extended you are using. e.g. it might tell us, that while you were talking about two different pd-extended installations you have tried, you really only tried one, but installed by different means. or that your system installs random bits of software from sources unknown, and you are asking other people to really fix *that* for you :-) while i don't really suspect this to be the problem here, it's always good to rule things out. e.g. the debian-multimedia-team has received bug-reports for years, because people keep adding the (unofficial, unsupported) debian multimedia repository, which tends to break things. fsmdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTDb2rAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4GFkP/3886+IPoMiSheavRdDSU99t c1JTt/+nvMfWwI/XxObzHjZclYla+W8jG0kdZ9/OCSwkuQGnJ2/Sg4oIbKhXiQhD CfT/psH7WsnHd3VZ//zRV6xCFMOkq+7eUBMA8rc5FNmV8k8snozTptt6aZ5fHW/7 06L54pls98vbr0iD96IEYsj5tgUZsKAGWHSSh9iFQI465POL+5wMpUOS7doCtt/B yI9xTwKsVaZKf4pGEU/cdlbEKTPdwEASG50QG6PSCXEOFhijBZQ8xPnzMLaHoNWG EsO438s8VoVur1ZC0f6EyB2j6yUaqaj1mKaNm8WTXao77GNSuixU4P9JIW1/QVDc 9jVSlnf55ga24Pp9t/YJHKAd2ki0aGdIr2P0T+76Z2cwdbwYd6ydub+p5hBhhBlO OHGBNWTcEZWFZHqHEdJYA4lXeqPRVLZ4maW9Kdto//WNXMmy8HuguBVIGsM98f1Y EaSSVm+8wNkj6R6084hNJd9/V0AcsUM9UI+u/aKkcCMyGgyURwHwGFtlk9ClfBNI pX92ZFEyTXeDkOu7eIxhLtjbF9UrtHBmkTXNT92JE6NeVq1FI8fGGoY9KjAtOIzH TXZqfHZz15s0bemrh6bz1zrL5pOzn97UfWZbUWNvO3e8bIDwj3z1Qiyvo+6ruw93 CbHKjfyHHyI23w+cDvJ0 =eCOh -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iem_sqrt4~ crashes on linux 64 bit
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 hi, On 2014-02-25 00:39, Billy Stiltner wrote: hey iem_qrt4~.pd_linux crashes the newest pd-extended as well as the latest pd source from sourceforge on ubuntu studio 13.04. [iem_sqrt4~] (i guess qrt4 is just a typo) has been fixed a while ago (namely around 2012-09), and i just confirmed that it works on amd64 without problems. it seems that this fix has not made it into the last pd-extended release (which was released somewhen 2013-01, irrc). you should either compile iemlib yourself, or get a nightly build that contains the updated iemlib (you could simply extract the iemlib files and replace the buggy ones, if you don't want to upgrade your entire pd installation). starting with ubuntu/trusty there is also a pd-iemlib package, that should have the issue fixed. (btw, it was really the iem_sqrt4~ object that crashed, nothing any host, be it pd-vanilla or pd-extended, pd-l2ork or pd-foobar, could do about) I didn't want to mess with trying to figure out how to fix the source so I just made an iem_sqrt4~.pd that has a sqrt~ inside i guess you *also* removed/renamed the iem_sqrt4.pd_linux then, in order to make this work? now all the iemlib vcf filters work . some of the vcf pd files had an iem_cot~ instead of iem_cot4~ so what is the problem? iemlib has both [iem_cot~] and [iem_cot4~]... fgmsadr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTDFtuAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4+rYP/Rao7DY3LupIo79G6sSO8WpD kf694qrXDWU5lY2TjXa2T8KW+Vg/7pkqGOVycdisXCwXLURKdhMxBSek62SpStDM uGiBa3t41KPt3l0jkxyetJY93lFr4nS2MzJKCNULlmzAOWVcQTB6bRf8uFGs2KSa GTxaF+LUX94GMyPiO6HdxYsv+9sGIFtwjv4qjdTdFZLQrZehf5jQnpqa+K6M4N76 8VfdoJdhnWnwIgUIkFQXmg1bO3n56ymZE+f7otUkxiugaIKYTwY3/xbqbBBZMKr1 auAoBtpqf6h5lsK6aosaQNNCbVoAxBFtP2aFyP0aDp5BbfMv1iqcDXkxkvzwCdh9 jBn+bARQZwpUE1rnU5yrUCshrcddrNKJsUjMFUnbsy0UCM7Gnys9vF7qk6MVvcb+ W6URs/OUW1kkdgqrHQrLXG9P04Ai2HFRtt8iwbAlrIHdxkXX5/94wxAnjVVnMK7L bg+3wmsubLaJhmN5vMjKyRRewhsnHR7XruqKlN0Tw8y7ZHlhX7F2gQKrDLPLJNGS g/FRyfrf5cUv7DEydOdnOugsFH9oH0fH+ihXqcACXQxJXL+YpSyeSeM9StcLcIMm wF5ZEgKGrvZlPCI3s78B1AwsymOA3Q+BcWdjIH58QPUXgX8RrOAxFBqTRw+B4Wty f6ZZpell2IZ94K+mgM9e =FivE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] libpd separating gui from core
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-17 22:42, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: No sane person is going to do incremental work without a plan on GUI software in 2014 that only has a single undo. luckily the work on the GUI will most likely happen in git, which gives you infinite undo. fmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJTAyE4AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4p20P/0v4ZnEhRhzuLBzl3Jr8bGRC FSp04pTFlgdIqYPvJJooQA2vWJPHCOcHNPI7u8kDJk3tr+1p1EQ41apK6qFw/xU5 E1093htLiZojq2OCMMO9ZOYbm0DXZZHRmo6nMcG2GXceqCSNA3OMw7p4MRGyVJB1 tS/gyckHowInGDif+3eYKSD6iTZcBFpa/QahaT9kZzTk6HQ4hRtoro5OZ/z97nj6 ILJsDv0xK01I4MF1s9OUsMdVp6itTCI9irHYOMr1IeNbhQMaZrT1z2HtqG9q8NZs Q4p6uKGtGgqIZU5noCrmLnxVde0HlirpxSIDzq+FHJ4b9dQk9pJSI+zKTE8hCs1O sCUFZNi2udd9NwkaAqs1/2msf15WO+GmguMZXzaOiOxcx9FKrVE03IATZ4vqLNCd AucU9dxohcYrqPuzzBhfxmmYk6aLwPaZpamezTeBNCni0qn25X5ZwDWY6YHnd5fO Ck1yvhWKO0g5jVH2Tx4iAgnceKVqe++q5q+XnR8goFPFvxPC3THCGoGaIx4FSgea Zcfy3VymCWByyG57K2yV2R+wr3qwK8TDligtM0XoUB+a0caYr6uq5qMnOTzOJpIt GpwrWerw1957a/ccxpkNpofh4HPosg0oeYRajc1mELY07bLcahgMaIGxIevxvub2 00RL1CEc36ySA5xLzcsd =M/8o -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] check mail with pd ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-05 15:35, Fero Kiraly wrote: is it possibile ? depends on what you really want to do. i've once written an MTA in Pd (that is a mail-server, as opposed to the mail-client you want). communicating with an imap server is not very complicated (as long as there is no encryption involved), so it should be *quite* easy to do that in Pd. i guess the biggest problem is to present the email(s) to the user. fgasmdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS8lJ7AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4xYYP/is/dW5C7Ix0ugSHHspVAlO/ wzn+9NWjjrHXECNvc4q/KgweAWs+Eq7Y7ZpzfnXxt++4/SLunxd8pxQ5TPQj+ha7 MoLYwPByFJ9ChASJbnpriQzB3lKA9zJZ+q40TGJafMg+j8l7XsLevXzpzg12OV4p cOqAbVYC4YSrAbp0jwrBm6M+3BE+yc2dooNOdRFU5/Lwf46omJwv2sc+Wasny5OQ s9lFONozJOuFMyZAULsWBjnfmc2ZiBbXpjSV2XQ0GCYiE8DjBJAYdg17/eg0/QeH pQtdj+Hd5Rkb14IeU3GyqzaKZZPoH603ao7vBxz0a1eK9y03ggIWpSfwus3Q901w jwLefM1zoIap8Qsh8CaNZTv/Qd5iWuyZJ9g8g5m1BY1FSoigEUDXBTMU2DlT20Ul uCumvVzHMNyxzLaoyECdIP4rIlABedVXV/+zPEFt/TvsucIcFU9iMv8HSoEL4+Xc 2zKb5BKK/v/FCcCzLKoL1JRa67C+Tkgvd2hqpFcgJujBPaf6dYEskZE0ZLWRWWkW ZGrpDi7aQPghXR/69bdJnCMsHrqbWXq3MQibmnkiKZPiNiA7nOcWqFXw/0oX9LCD RJFhnEKwBpw69a1ZqtvIvP1kY5P37sqGVvGi4XjnNErhGfjMZ/alPgUV2bxMajK+ EMQKHlpjACEeuJEmhZl2 =mOjE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] check mail with pd ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-02-05 16:02, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2014-02-05 15:35, Fero Kiraly wrote: is it possibile ? depends on what you really want to do. i've once written an MTA in Pd (that is a mail-server, as opposed to the mail-client you want). http://puredata.info/downloads/pd-mail/ the project page speaks of having both MTA and MUA implemented, but in this context MUA (user client) really only means sending MUA and not MUA for reading emails fgamdsr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS8lrAAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4dzwP/2Bn9huTNqP6QBhEKRZK0S2u JMJe47EuvV/UCk5HpFqV3mlkEztZ70j4IVRczGXPrWd5Uh42XEibxNN1v7REu5KU xLWBIx8TOpPJ1CgbaezfFJ4vVDhrK7zMqjsoFZHyBlrZhAXa8nq8ndAnoWxqsA2W 0uBO/yzCbXsQDS4n6rF9vWB10iDSKQNXoI60PcZIgEY5L43MJFNiB4amoB452BPy 6OO4SyVT0xXwv5lA/XOdPJSTHUGMBFf5GwMD8/XmbnFQOo3bCc+7p/6sZf0wXRp+ YF/bbBNYq2VyDfplhaz8a1wc5D/fLWvysWFeurSj6dGbQtNoF1ogLyFXerCbWiLJ XOkEV1/IthHcSX7kDnYa7/QQzgarwesATDRU9vPtz6mHGlcGJpckH56bne6u90ju LLZFaCH3JNGff1MuzuPuRt3auIUX8jtHa2E7Oo6XaNV57pA+cH5hZuqVck7xnNOm 2E2sFeDg0PdST7BEwal6KkdkbsGdv6RXgKyMmkpHZhbjW5JENSswCKOLnx3iMvya Ov/iHHwGjfcNbCrqVC5dZP6yRcx0HGbRsWtDQLNR5CgfW+IZ2UGYhy7geDswdpJV TIu6tnXg89U4dYyt4PmAQrr4cQEDa8V3OH1YXVtUvrPoU78s+p1OFWzfXupu+2on 6Y8CQB5Tgta5bcRw59tm =SHSB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Zexy build errors from Pd-extended
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-31 12:10, John Smith wrote: I built zexy from svn-repo (revision: r17214) and I have same issue as in zexy tarball release, -- I have no [pack~] and [unpack~], but if I using zexy from binary debian package (Pd-0.44.0-extended-20140130-debian-wheezy-amd64), -- then I have [pack~] and [unpack~], and because pd-extended zexy version has this object, -- I trying to build pd-extended zexy version, but I can't. then you have something else wrong. [pack~] and [unpack~] *are* part of zexy-2.2.4, zexy-2.2.5 and today's zexy-svn (rev.17259). i just checked all of them. #1) by default, zexy will build a single binary zexy.pd_linux; you have to load this library (e.g. -lib zexy, or [declare -lib zexy]) in order to use any zexy objects. this is different from pd-extended, where you get multiple binary objects (e.g. pack~.pd_linux) and you have to use [import zexy] (or add the path/to/zexy to Pd's search paths). if you want to build zexy the same way as pd-extended builds it, you ought to use the --disable-library flag when running ./configure (don't forget to run make clean before running make again). #2) i still don't really understand your error message when compiling. there is explicit code in zexy that prevents setup from being multiply defined. what's the output when you run the f ollowing command in the src/ subfolder? gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.. -DZEXY_LIBRARY -g -O2 -mms-bitfields 0x2e.c -fPIC -DPIC fgsdmr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS65IqAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4JYYP/2RTURy/yt89yYd4ZXiNWvgW dOj0fhQlZ4ro3AM5wxDlAPDC4mxvxmZwsxuwG8tft+1x3/VSDey+M3ZXKC56lAeP CP3OAPQmzooi1eH+pMWUXd3NQSfr9eSgPNAk/qRYR1+ZdZO9U9tKvS6Sb4xouSsL TwxWLJiPLiyzV4NZT5VGps07FWYmsXBx204QyH2yu8J+mkYjGsvVM006DzRqVM+H 7MlVDCcmbqiaDm1gDuMRmVhH9yL6ai/r0a0x35/DqgeIbru1FKloJ9nMMHA5/SK5 ki2EZvJT1TdMGSPM95UxmZloIP4Bpouw5iuvBzGD2ZxfOT9xkNeci296QMD4aiuZ UnhMncpyS9ebzBXBW3anEg1ACGlH1WOb7RsL1aHswOvjIcnT/sJ1sJzFcX6diTCF uvKjCqUatxkms7C74SI6U52+4XDD7jNHKcK+/mZ3KovZnROw2raslkrMrWih4M1z QdgXfOASK42IPTCrQBsTPbZa3PCFx67B+uIFdUfak/IiUhthGVP1wjnR3KiMd24q FRIKMqIoMZCxSms1YD98enEuKvtZhvoeRIlnB8ycRCC6HpIxLIkGwHWpsS3X2ou+ gjQP8Ch6PgjRuUSh6yh1AeLkBQydC28uMGl6ZilEoB+69MbnSIu3yTKctgHcBLea cDYI3cwSyivVvlbyv7pH =9yYW -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] get current FileName or CanvasName?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-28 00:57, Jonghyun Kim wrote: Thanks IOhannes, I'm using Pd-0.45-4 (Vanilla) My iemguts were from Pd-extended 0.43-4. You said this cause problem, right? So, which version of IEMGUTS should I use? the version of iemguts doesn't matter - iirc iemguts doesn't have any version numbers yet, so just use the latest and greatest. the problem is, that you should make sure that the iemguts binary you are using was compiled against the very Pd-version you are using. i don't provide any binaries (this is on purpose, please don't ask me for binaries). the only binaries available for download are the ones shipped with Pd-extended. this gives you two possibilities: - - either use Pd-extended 0.43-4 with it's version of iemguts - - or compile iemguts yourself (it's not complicated if you have a compiler) fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS52y3AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4trwP/2ajIJbhVifVBVfGwsYukPt4 8rWnrCxSfkUulOeGzQF/BwUGBgMHx5jyYu0iW1/pb3qIxQMRJX5jaoOGFaKijEDg 0tlN0nTEtmfB0GW+del2ZC9VgFtgX+Bx9ThGaGGBUe+nUu0tRBHn6JsroHQM65PO sEija/mv6NjDZsJnJElRZHxUGvt7kh70v7aIpOQVDPbEf8Lke5anKiVw0f//p/1H 3lJx4rfVGgT3v1R4qM2z+ybVZ+MfrnDxyyytcr3bOBYahtNB79k1Krjbr5UvdaMy G/fDGsu5YmpX8iYjPabwH46ufRSL6ZAo0iRcPSaXsnuo3LIzekP5gVvJSpmQwbUU tN5jpQT8ZUBDaeV2iMZeJm5vGSFyTPVLvMHZC5LCOrZFkmER7iCuheEvRHTPws9o 5zSoihFlnJYUWuHP70aesH+yhdm5yQpKldQDJHqxonWXcxihv/dutKZtsL7lN79w 8Pa5UXeSUhcJ2rqEAHfnBtEE8ChmVZICTXYL8zk8X1E9M1dd/PZ24Dmsb/9V076q 4CaXQlcrspXGc3v6LF/ZkqWfXCQcBb14suxRFmJ98R08suoz7XKXQHg7Cxi6ddpc oc9c4BlyKQtpPGQ7Bpje8cxO74pTGvoH6eTGXUYcXXxwHBtiw5GEo7U9+TXNczq3 6obhZSPOduashgg9UCI7 =rYWJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Compile iem_ambi from svn?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-28 00:24, Peter P. wrote: in the iem_ambi directory I get makefile:12: ../../Make.include: No such file or directory which indeed does not exist. i was going to say: you need to checkout the entire externals/iem subfolder. if you don't want that, you could also just download the `Make.include` (and `include/iemlib.h`) from https://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/iem but while i was writing this down, i noticed that indeed these files were missing in action... seems like somebody forgot to commit them. i've checked these files in. fgvadrt IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS53EHAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4Zw8P/1FLapO/F/Uea5WRR6q8x6S4 n+2sbt3VnozKM3MFibx/Du07gMo9E2oYG8TLxVhkX6IPwt15YxpxFXZfS4cyzQY7 F6pgIiH6OrVzxEBeN8gdsrtCOT1YAZcMVODbORhsyQ1Wl2QP661KPC5vRa6KhUCI 99HymhfUvae+tdWhqvvF3YXgt7zjVfzHxWNZDNjQiVsaxNkx2hQ/0SPzeYx8SXhc nki/D3N3uGUEUuwYPPB11lze3tCQKV5wODQR4DbK4vencxtAofFTiQSeY6mKwyeb K1um3U4W1xg6Z4as/DIkzaUj3H2MWpHL+Mt5gtk1OXCCMtDl2AIBGfey1fhTSZs5 wzhmSWpXlQs7Bwd8bKizo40GlPJzIy/eQTvNDMOVTD2OZVoSPp6DbuCxq8nWW9l9 Nm0HOsLIMoqe/4VPOONGwKaQtFx9faVe9ag3vqa16VwM64enq2vVV3yuwpjSH4qj vMREq65pwts/m1YRDERlQfBC22UKQmG5DfS4nWC7HMYvfJP1jY7jK/ikEsl74X3u jMVnF72hgCGXL48CAZb3qbOU5kPMoNcTB/MFNg/b/Q16Sb3QC+zFJeXYUpz1AVGe 7HtskrBcW8C1nDcxDMLU4zIfuBIK/DPEuPkgs5f9hapmw9tH9apONAGLys/hABVc OkXUmAvG43YSovYQk9Rw =LePT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] get current FileName or CanvasName?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-27 04:45, Jonghyun Kim wrote: Hi list, anyone knows how to get current FileName, Patch, or CanvasName? I tried with iemgut, but it isn't working in Pd Vanilla... iemguts is developed against Pd-vanilla, so i'm pretty sure it *is* working with this flavour of Pd. it's probably important to compile iemguts against the very version of Pd you are using (e.g. don't try to run iemguts shipped with Pd-extended-0.43 with Pd-vanilla-0.45) fgdmasr4 IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS5hiOAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4esEP/jDJNjvuH1Ga/w1wvioUkdX6 Q49dKXJnNkqMyaFaAOJwcDhJmKvjppLNIgsWpomBaqT/ZV4riSOhaFyceef3pULH rVzxfVrNmTkYILDqdQN9WliueBdvd1X3uqH+QeZSequn8K1culiGn2yLl5q8ckce c0mx5G4lrjQJXcVDypj2NmemDUZi0l5M42lWPjitR6/xVxSh6UDl6wqN6P1I5sSs Rlu7jlfQ+LjAReZywiEiZMmjl1AYZk9eDCUc44wY76G8INYa5Z19GtcVuDTU2rMX 6sOB+3OTr2gSeU8tB8xk1DRMaOIkBbGupG8CsSmzlkTfzEJPcmNzCHQ9aMpzrzUf xYqHOjFlj3edIC+buY+g44B2GvGEtpDRJo7kfIuV+XS3W+FeKZGlkgsUr8e+bxp1 QysPdL6Ey58Vk1t1tiUASj75b22qbOMOHzYU/d2tnYnMMJ4GkSndkGNXWKEQ4OzK KS0UizFkR4zYpXpkCya13W72p+MFHReWu440bPWfX7E0Kxn5L+Gis9GwGpuvZm1m yyoA/DHRVb0aHqnW1gT00I5rcIjHFbHL0cYpvIqnrGzWYOMx21kW8w8UrmB3vxjN geexObb5MvN7XhLcYveShHhnDoQoqml5lmSNJOJdEtJVlU+tjsOWHsDh5DhFQC8I Jb0mAEu4IUIeW3OKW//p =PrfX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] access to archives
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-23 14:00, Py Fave wrote: is it possible to improve the archive of pd-list ? sure. how? currently if a discussion spreads on a few monthes , you can't follow it. and it would be easier to have a common interface to use all the informations that sleep inside.(sorting by type of content (such as gem, control, audio for instance) i feel it would be useful. to complement the documentation since many discussions are in there definitely. i haven't found any list archiving software yet, that really fits our needs (and which integrates nicely with mailman). but i'm very open for suggestions (esp. if they point towards an implementation). in the meantime you can use one of the 3rd party archives http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/ http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.general http://blog.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.general make it a forum ? that would require a bidirectional setup, which is not so trivial. mailman has an interface to newsgroups, but - - i've never used it - - someone has to run a news-server - - do you think newsgroups are an appropriate medium these days? ah, and gmane provides a newsgroup gateway anyhow... fgasr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS4RiEAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4aOcP/1dg9Ij0wsOAtRuemFR8vepE uInQsrw4avt4N4aZ5m2ukQDCUpNE+cJNM3f8uIB5apl7ZrG06HV2Y92i3CrZRjt1 iSsIOQfjI78u9DniPD+31k48WGIa6e7OxmLMuaMboFwubo1TIH11ZEjvFjkvQ8Xr xmMfp9xp9w0HUBFdw8aAWr5uoQ3HIBCoU/18NPufjwLOjX9mgINVltJHCTLAjHPG QU3cwoP1mys8tIbyDcQozK3B1mldPbutokNM7lowjFv1f3LS1xF0Mey9d8BMXb7r ZW5y8CNHgtjRl1ookxBzRHKgdf07aNp3d+dFzaT8yxVmKxbbMsnAX45IdxPQPBBu TQR6oHdTEEaIPf4ixSH2utNX1oXJc5Z9QguVd/Vx4UgQtyOzc5IuiFJup/MxyxWd hnlqdK5OzXEE69Mn8TQpdrrH9p32jlR+YsNjvN3Q5cHNNi13CGVMq4Lv28EItPFb CmevZ6Y0+HkEbeehdezsaHPfb47LRFJxUswdxO1ygCM55pPsYGhWfLjTxngxhxZP 54ymZ/wbFqZK4OwB5gFzK2RXdu0OVwZdwZ8qxMclomgntDrCPUj8DIBEXqrpaGtR FHP1mo6KSwENR5YR+MBi1Bd9UIEwSlrleAJdQ11udM3jslJhTyP90+5Ltv+6jfPB aBiEmAAyfp2RzE6icVDX =NZad -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] access to archives
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-23 15:42, Thomas Mayer wrote: Hi, IOhannes m zmoelnig schrieb am 23.01.2014 14:26: - - do you think newsgroups are an appropriate medium these days? as a member of the German Pirate Party, I know for sure, that such a thing exists and in fact is used by lots of members. this doesn't count. pirates and other (((schemeing))) hackers are excluded from polls about an appropriate medium these days ;-) but thanks for the links. fgamsdr IOhannes PS: and there is always news://news.gmane.org:119/gmane.comp.multimedia.puredata.general -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS4TN+AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4zHQQAIhqMVLnLdBIXCw6DE2Ma7aZ oNjUaKxobzYW3Kcw8zUSdpvz95r/YhMOkZWAwdUkyYnRytXHWmVxVtSIenEGLU2J pQzBUiho+Wk4+TB38Anfh/sYqc9JjUBA/WNc5hB2Hwb8N+4SxTwcrbNkUzPEwY4D PbAEe2tuSFobiX/NfGL3VaoQrFY0g4QVLugVqhuVNj+mgpZpzv6PM5UBbvZhNt5p ei8x1RfzdG4eh6KclwHld5e/PS0iU/yVgEN/F6Mxnf5EZ4XasBkV96RyEPi4Xh3R Bv4Zx7whKnYGK0Fr7GRhbHo2pld8Ep5tb1XpAaESZ5SCf6ujeMXrnJOex1HnufpE RJuT0nF0ctMA3w1GG4ezsll3K6mne31T0bmqKA0ltiAHu+uxGR9a6us705Cswl+1 pvMqLog5mt6RMys1CUurfSmnz7+dHLgJu6Qyt8HAw12vsIB+gJYEgKZUfHFJ20q5 5nItNdLJTipisZAWO7Goc78Hgbw0D9SSWzvrDGo22YnFMCCHaLbzc4UZzgVPJXnM apiU7VfYkyRWtbGVJyz57JL9y3SNXU0BRFGWg4j6+27d0KycGucYuGFPMrVNZhHr ekgk8fbHaezX83k2tz27EElfD2yh/HQQg4hftQQRgUe03mOa80l+arcB2RDTGOga /7fSZur8K4iZGCL2UGfo =uHJV -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] confused about $1 in messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-21 22:35, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: On 01/21/2014 04:02 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: On 01/20/2014 10:01 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: It might help some if the selector inside a message box were visually distinct from the rest of the message. +1 You could also have different colors for built-ins vs. custom selectors. -1 Hm... care to explain your votes? Is it the word colors that got a -1, or the idea of visually distinguishing between the two groups? the latter. how the selector differs from the atoms should be a matter of user-definable preferences. and i'd like to have a way to distinguish atoms (with potential whitespace characters) from the whitespace atom-separator. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS34aeAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4TO0P/0Y3xEjCf9z8XZtlwGc99vgp 58fXtG5jKEEIdmVcHonhQwFpXAza7B+3Zb+jAe30MazZ5s3GldT7MPnoCGTkCgL+ 8j4tZwoSVAzcwMC1eE+383F7yhu1hLj4jddWk0V7SQj/NH6848MG/dqzUnHQWEpJ 52cfDK1yg5B4d1WLlCYUaA3JE1oXwGasVkmW4wIMn+u1+Y05JJDq4x7UuTt3oE12 6nPrgQ/WPes8kWM4vO0+Yd4Kg80gLqSI0+ZxMVp6X/cj4jsQejsj5coq8AG0vxNe l3zEdDXqAwHR+v6MbGy/IJhm9rs+pq55Eye5NMY/l9DByNODK+aJN/WouMhTJRQN H5WumjsGl0dzqIXHb73bTbO82f5EpL36gXL3GNSmHe8rfYd6/6Ff1kHOdKM8rEt7 a1MSyMtblchntflviwdHUe1JQF5tuQqT1JapDZipBIfPd5cYGAHGVtBVK7hMMM7F Rc1fZNNjG7RrFaXW3Ks5I0sdvbCTniyK28AaGoqAGflXRgfZOJombqfSGu11iE4H mk3VnQOe9hDvZ88e9p60VQ1VVkgbTd2SYRcyzrInipfTprbtzJ5hruSh4xLPaDyF 0QOZ6qoe/lH+t5mh9VHu3YspOUej6QQVc/enhpf3dnizPrY7hkl+AxaCKsf4fnBQ JBf/NQpy0TSc27nhB4Um =BzNs -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [OT] Pd Debian (was Re: Compiling Pd in Sabayon)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-20 14:52, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: My question is off topic, since you are actually changing the topic (this is now about debian rather than sabayon), it's usually a good idea to change the subject as well (which i just did). while we are at it: please dot't CC me; i read the Pd-list and will happily answer there. but since you mentioned it I'll write it here. I downloaded a liveCD image from herehttp://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/but during installation it got stuck at installing the grub boot loader. It was unable to install it to any partition of my hard drive (even the master boot record). Anyone knows why this happens? hard to tell. it might be related to (U)EFI boot: is this a dual boot system with w7 or the like? Also, when setting up the partitions, I assigned the free space I have for Linux to Ext4. I really don't know if this is what I'm supposed to do, but it was the first choice, and it was already chosen. again this is hard to tell from remote. it *sounds* ok (but then you never know). I tried the live image to check how it works on my laptop, but there was no Pd installed there (or jack)... no. usually puredata is considered to exotic for a general purpose OS to be available on a generic liveCD. but then: the important things to checkout out with a liveCD are usually within the range, whether the hardware is supported (gfx card, network card, wifi card; sound card) and you should be able to assess this even without puredata installed. plus this image is 7.2 (i downloaded gnome as I've no idea what's the difference between all these) different desktops for your taste. personally i prefer xfce, as it is very lightweight (and doesn't get too much into my way). and on debian's main page you can get 7.3. but these are *stable* releases of Debian! Debian is huge, and when they talk about *stable* they usually have 24/7 server infrastructure in mind and value stability over actuality: debian 7.3 is a bugfix release for debian-7, which was released in 2013/05; bugfix means that you only get security critical updates, no chance of having a puredata in there, that was released after this date. anyhow, since you most likely don't want to run a 24/7 server system on your laptop, but instead would like to work with up-to-date software, you should choose debian/testing (jessie). get yourself a netinst image of the Current daily snaphosts from [1] (most likely you will want [2]) and a good internet connection. the default desktop is gnome (but you can choose xfce (or some other) in the boot-menu). once the system is up and running, install puredata: # aptitude install puredata fgmasdr IOhannes PS: in general it is not an overly good idea to do too much distribution hopping. if you are not sure, imho the best thing would be to physically get hold of somebody who is properly familiar with *their* distribution (whatever that is), and let them help you getting your system up and running. esp newbies tend to download each and every distro somebody in some obscure forum points them to. in this respect, me recommending Debian was counterproductive. sorry for that. in my last email, i wrote that sabayon is most likely a Debian descendant anyhow. for the record: i just did a check, and it is indeed *not* a derivative of ubuntu (and thus debian), but instead it is derived from gentoo. PPS: i also said that debian already comes with puredata-0.45.4. this was misleading insofar, as Debian wheezy (aka Debian 7 through 7.3; currently Debian stable) comes with 0.43.2; it's only Debian jessie (aka Debian testing) and newer that have Pd-0.45.4. [1] https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ [2] http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS3TFCAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4gGYP/RJzRtjM+qFFl9wEh4roY7Ar bGjdF99ntb+3nyewRZfqwN9NDZ273o7pcY1bmspHtTpquzaqhZvzMcSCgb7AQz2T T9IesRsFX8IhaTDjGikOOj5M4gwEYhG6TEovTOwll3zu3f9MSyx1O+r5M5sHVdtt xXEZDb0YH9BAunMAsbLkftGtyEEYZCcbwkwj8UxeVP2Jm6b1FiZQBmQr+B75XMDs UhzmsfwD1/szn6ern608CIXQyjSPSAKYJVcM/nFWTvqM9QSx22pjdOhlQeoTi/T3 VRqch/rK6V67GfqmQUwhMYzFYfwo0r5q/0s5E6jmYCk1z8sJvY75E4WYj6d8ZjpJ zbtT2KuaDrHMbphismKZwOFo7esaqtgEds2W7ThzVG/Jd5qtjT2hXh/8eSinMZX9 52lXMnaQ+7yeJ9c9HAnq/yN2tWhXmytTdKESVQqgeWLRccLRkn3Ay2SIq3pMRhuw wuxoqG8cGer/uvB4ziDvBwGpEDl8pGerXnh15faE12o4etw3ehSfPYuq5C5/fpzN 4fcphZEapjSWV/IBpLBuaD/fxkIhsleh8iDtK0SJGr1OT1Z1rksQ9ZeAv+u1d9+5 cHqa3bLi7o5JBmGFpeUiKvkSxHCVELuBTNF7yNLLGEC/rXS2dQQR9wyBg2ZnCWwx kpqyiNX5RvVusZaSAJLe =DTIB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] confused about $1 in messages
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-20 15:34, ro...@dds.nl wrote: dear list, i'm confused about the $1 replacement in messages. [one two three( |\ | \ | [list split 1] | / | / |/ | / | [; [this $1 $2( [r this] | [print this] output: this: two three this: two three why? why not? what did you expect? fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS3UUnAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4/wsP/17YCnqNwVSdHsgxaOkeIkCV CeMIUqEfL+OvlwwFg8f/V68w84g9vDx05ItXb8z5QuwxC/VcYhSx7bP9858buNbE n+bBlP4q46tFmhRGgixdvqAEYOFxlPmbVJ2YYBsodJpJ+lP8oZrdRYXjijwrCLXP K4BlmfBvsMS38CM6xfiIzHa86Y6JUJMbgkFTIEej6pMjju6PTQwqGK2oLN4DpzIk TkhCLh3k5uA2MluJn4m6Ds+4cqtt02/atFom9t3vkbVDeJAiwghyWx1vVcNZwJcm EuMjV9rq+zjax132Peuwu/juLTCoFVIP7hWFg2fcqGq3dVBqrZb3XDEhFWxYuIWC EO5FcxrQpaFpVV88np1nxy2hk0OoUZVVIg+ovTuZpojT1rCIN4nEud+RPd9wpWjO WFpsiOtwNORgRW9GVFCabtXnb6vYWriOPXui2KAZv8NHsXjetUDbiuQdWckM3pu5 qXYEbPseikffJJYEBm4JmFxesBINaX0d1w8COVWK7qQedauwlOKV8x/8OxidtP7+ 0s+W3W5yVffRn42IlfEfWkwi4PMNO2yTDKCEnlabaJAwPTEJcwIYf1VfdkWQDjlt kXn68uSJd6n5MijLqC+zmKJLU2xQlWHohrWPFhdZ+ve9uZSHcQbhCo59DyDcTlHl n84EKeau8adPNblX23oJ =ikUG -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] UDP vs TCP, for OSC networking
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2014-01-14 04:41, Ryan Smith wrote: packet loss is an issue and most people use UDP since it will be faster. Then if you're running into packet loss, for whatever reason, try switching to TCP. UDP will be faster, as it has less overhead: - it's a stateless protcol (doesn't know, whether there is actually somebody listening on the far side) - since it doesn't know nor care about the far side, there is also no way to signal back to the sender, that some data was missing - so there is no need for a complicated error correction stack another cool thing about UDP is, that it is pretty stable in un-reliable situations (that is: if you can live with lossing some packets alltogether): if one side suddenly dies, the other side will not be affected. with TCP/IP this often means hangs of the remote side. the issue of UDP being an unreliable protocol, is often found to be none, as it is used mostly in small well-behaving networks (LAN), were the chances of congestion are small, compared to the wild internet (though even in the wild internet you find crucial services that build on top of UDP - the most important is probably DNS). however, i think the reason why OSC is used mostly with UDP is slightly different: the first OSC implementations only used UDP. furthermore, iirc the original OSC draft only mentioned UDP as a transport protocol (though it also claimed to be transport portocol independent). since OSC is a packet-based protocol (data is sent in atomic chunks), and UDP is one as well, they match quite well. TCP/IP is a stream-based protocol (data is sent serially; all chunk information is lost), which means, that you have to add some packetizing mechanism. the OSC specs that first mention TCP/IP (OSC-1.0) also mentioned such a packetizing mechanism (prefix each chunk with it's length), but unfortunately they chose a very bad packetizing algorithm (unrecoverable when you have drop-outs or otherwise miss parts of the stream). this was only fixed later (OSC-1.1, in 2009!), when serial procotols were explicitely requested to use SLIP as a packetizer. to cut a long story short: in the beginnings, most OSC implementations *only* supported UDP. that's why OSC is still most often used on top of UDP. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJS1PmmAAoJELZQGcR/ejb414EP/AwaeJiu3tAb3kKFwrzikO7d aU1YdtDbN0MVxWVbkSk5KU7eKVai65k5DEmBbnM+rAaERUQC6JtrclOXOYCInywG mh74VxKweU8tkrXuRjw6gpmR0T0UmTZQO1OczW97xJ33W9zovPOM4YotwxHMklKO fYI4MGhZV5HgPWVEllnoT9FW1QO07zx8Dcwko1pPeAlUsOXIAcGht980p/toYPmF 192k8gZcSh7ud5zKWff8vYzVtua+8dxVwVnpCzyRMSXdrcsErKbzOolbNmikBXp1 5glqIZWIox7f0airlhT7qwMCR86pd1ZPHXpScnfBJ2oHjpe2oublLlub5mxDPLpb cKEtr0px/XmYoQ4Ef3RWVq//AFGH5bB6IFgwrjgmcu2Coioks4/oUyCbYIR9OnHk GdM4T+imViN453sj5RUMdC2fMu159YV7IaUk4cn654Kou7MRPySYsGXKtaKHc9sf VHX2hripwztVQos6O2P/sP70uPVZl5R7sbE0KO1NPmkkOGLQNQXlxv8Hq/Ky4kBp PAPCXqjhvSYPWb/gFiGAd2x1qmWilRI37/3Dzffrecp5rXnPX1UYGmbjMskD/2Oa CH5mSaAFZMnC54R6MKfommd85HfOVVX5MgR/FLbUwtuo46NgHwqtzyWf5oRlS971 yxcZlv8euJipKAdmmdpy =xTCY -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] xinput external
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-12-19 07:53, pured...@11h11.com wrote: hi, i am using a modified version of xinput (adding ;, leading 0 and unbuffered) with pdsend (udp). i can now get my tablet x,y,pressure,tilt in pd. a demo patch is included (showing a way to parse xinput test data). https://github.com/patricksebastien/xinputpdsend the only problem is that i am using [shell] to execute the xinput | pdsend and when quitting pd it hangs until killall xinput. you might consider using UDP instead of TCP for sending data back to Pd. UDP seems to be much more stable (esp. when it comes to broken connections), and if you are only using localhost, the network reliability should be a non-issue. as for adding ; and leading 0; you might want to use `sed`. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSsstDAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4zSUP/3T/56q+twjnGzXzjn3gaza4 D5uVmZ70iGEgG9JyFXx3vplTun7cE/MbEl1NUcU8Ig96s/aEEtVxLcHUmg4QI/S9 TZvsx2YMv7ElvQpz0yHAree2lv50rr0B/rst8EAzBvJ4NZWdCP48b85Y7YPmEaAF Drs/DLeqF/O0cI5kJWPK1YG46HvdjAmygxxIpPFbpSmE9BPaxF23BCnCCu1CLaIo wSAyrLyCgaMv8IJkKgkbZuaZ9PTLTQVzs33qkfgcw250FpZgfn5QcI5yL+7Z20Sf Uh7H91/zFVO2dkFHqSvXuN6x5Q21sFQjChsFh8vzB/JRHNRNFC4Sz35aFBT3H+7P 9X9osJqKhHudQf5BOpOXMHJONhFagnPnU3CUtvWCoAhqGTxPm0772LhSm/OAsyRn N9AzQW2Zb7ip8bbJs0MhZoe6GnBKwkYbMuM3ssH529CDnPhFZpJNVgjI43ldlknu ast8sHSbKFIT8Bc5DJ2CyuhYDijanbHCJ8lTC54Il69t3hHeu0UYbeeSiXaFgQdW uCGeSb+OvYbkq6zSiESM5Ri/7/HZacCdzQTM2c/VrzOjU5h+l3/7/P1M/dd/7SC1 S4FancfTm7/QpiKuaIS2r9GuNDjrU1im6NHTaClNrZrVwK7XGAuCL6qRrfRdwr8Z o+O2CaRUE0uw+dRLwgMP =ILUI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp 0.14.1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-12-13 20:03, Tom Schouten wrote: Hi List, An update to PDP: http://zwizwa.be/pd/pdp/pdp-0.14.1.tar.gz 0.14.1: Port SCAF MMX code to x86_64 ABI Revive pdp_opengl (3dp) Bugfixes cool. esp good to see 3dp back again. SCAF (Simple Cellular Automata Forth) is ported to x86_64 ABI. It still uses the old MMX 64bit integer code which makes little sense on x86_64, but at least it works. quick questions: is scaf supposed to work on non-i386/amd64? i' asking because i have prepared the debian packages, and by default they will be compiled on a number of non-x86 architectures. if scaf is known to not work on these platforms, i will have to disable it. 3dp mostly works. Some known issues in corner cases (pdp/opengl/doc/examples): - example05.pd : multiple window render contexts causes crash i noticed that i cannot close a 3dp window. closing the patch will leave the window open, opening another 3dp patch will crash Pd. apart from that, here [1] is a collection of patches from the Debian package, which i think should be applied upstream (they might need to be applied in the correct order; and i'm trying to leave out the Debian-specific patches) - - skip_pd_check.patch `make install` will fail if there is no `$(prefix)/lib/pd` directory. i think this is an overly zealous check and should be removed. (e.g. when building pdp on Debian, pd itself is not installed; however, it is guaranteed that pd is installed if you install pdp (via the package manager)) - - 01_destdir.patch prefix installation targets with $(DESTDIR), to allow sandbox installations - - 02_install_extra-pdp.patch this is probably Debian specific, where i install the entire pdp suite (binaries, help-patches, abstractions) into $(prefix)/lib/pd/extra/pdp/, rather than cluttering $(prefix)/lib/pd/extra - - kfreebsd_hurd.patch needed to compile pdp on HURD-systems and Debian/kFreeBSD (both are not Linux (as in the kernel), but close enough) - - fix_typos.patch replace unkown with unknown. - - hardening.patch allow to add extra LDFLAGS to the build-system (used for adding hardening flags in debian) - - searchpath_check.patch this is probably Debian specific (see 02_install_extra-pdp.patch), where pdp checks at startup whether the pdp-abstractions can be found. - - help_input.patch Debian-specific alteration to the [pdp_help_input] abstractions. - - fix_v4l.patch for whatever reasons this keeps creeping into pdp: on none of my systems i have V4L2_CID_HCENTER nor V4L2_CID_VCENTER, so i always have to remove these ZL_V4L_CTRLs - - fix_verbosity.patch moving the pdp/pf-window spits out an endless number of ConfigureNotify messages into the Pd-console. this patch silences that. - - scaf_configure.patch scaf/configure.ac misses a few closing quotes. - - scaf_build.patch prefix installation targets with $(DESTDIR), to allow sandbox installations - - fix_install.patch when doing a sandbox installation, $(prefx)/bin might not be there; in this case `install bin/foo $(prefix)/bin` would install foo not within /bin bat *as* /bin, which is not what we want. fgmasdr IOhannes [1] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-maint/pdp.git;a=tree;f=debian/patches -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSswd3AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4VFkP/3nJwhnNlgtmw3PsDU6Duef/ rrjq3yeA+iJPvr5gg7SPQ07UVHlZvQpYI+m1zmgo/iMMn5DVigjZ+6ugRGwbUEvU JcEpthlyiXyjUUIaEO1HFXnUdPWD0lNqFRByCd7kgW+bM0I3UBOeTyno14Z4vwnD YQel6ByAOm41m7pyDp+Cq8cvlf+eNh7au3B/G7eXGC5iyRWLp8kObcndb01OuEOD pkeA5rjhMHJs7jqdFDeObJVpHfIfEdoAMjCSofTmjrFFOStUehKafk9R5DV1vzY/ 2OCICV+4gUtSEbRou4KB6lzXx2IknIAWxSzuruEKnOHjXtnTX2CzGO9txTQYqwtq sNkNTQZ9mRD0g7LfySrATn3E0z1dlrB9WK6mY+M50bWPiyAsJHiQwbNLMEzXkxDX MMmAbSvVvi/bF9FFT5EUYa3EKFMylZ4U2zCMbdmtPnUA9RpLU4mOy+0ymtYZJRtM 6QqApFh2Aygx4vVORI7iuRTxgVs2a3Omr+AV7w6e0OHVBszfz1eO+MgQ4JFYBzmw XPh/L2e2ZaixYCpka/5aqe/zI5r9H0OecN3YalQ1Y2M5mv3ZhGkaK3P62jW/smnf lfj2zh5hyKVsgVbtbw63Tf/MnqMWHyhPdoBRNHOrI3Y5sQqfEhuOk0O/hcJtuTVi QSf3JrZjL9/u17Xko2SB =/Z5y -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] before quitting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-12-18 12:22, pured...@11h11.com wrote: Is there a way to do something (let's say close a file, kill a subprocess etc...) before quitting pd (meaning Ctrl+Q or File - Quit)? there is [closebang], which will send out a bang before a patch is closed (Ctrl-W). if you are familiar to writing externals, it's an equivalent of the free-method. unfortunately [closebang] cannot be implemented as a pure external (as it requires some changes to Pd's core infrastructure), and it has never been included with Pd-vanilla. there is a patch pending at sourceforge [1]. afaik [closebang] and it's cousin [initbang] are included in Pd-extended. but this is only half of the truth...when *quitting* Pd (instead of closing a single top-level-patch, or deleting an object), for some obscure reasons Pd does *not* call the free-methods of it's objects, so (afair) [closebang] doesn't work either. luckily, there is a fix for this [2], so [closebang] might work. unfortunately, this has never been included in Pd-vanilla. afaik it has been included in Pd-extended. admsr IOhannes [1] https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/patches/93/ [2] https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/patches/82/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSsWAdAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ntoP/Art3aZMzkzi49mmUGst40j+ Klv0dRa7DY7nPyFXzol8gw8AABOLIpLnSugcS7F2D0E/ePOKraCOsDM++YaPxLGd fTRFDvHEOciO1zYu3a6Azbj6E9HB6u5mw1YI9C9wx1f38XHPXwDvne68H5bhFARM ymydJCSzf6sR65t7z6wmMa17wT0LHDpR1v9YVmfhAWUqRpygv94G9vyzbRvdeK9Q oCgB6LBX5Vp4lX4eawweF1TnMG/V1V5Rscm9KiCaTdVddC0ACmFsJLIClw0/nyXV KOVa68wb3E76tLzMEnsgJ3FklZZQHrkv3Tb41IwVhP9x56qV/FG0Ey/MZj42XDgC 6/Rk5kgaZJrEPs/MhHGU2ipqz2w0JYfBB6tYM+OllvqbiQir4KC5XBaDyn2PStBA nxnxH2JfKx12QJXA0dTraJSf0qpAYj9lauAUGqzG37qjIwOgoo4I+8uwRenGa+Fv iJPN9pi0t110jjNWZH+7QyzwsZpIz65aqpjRouT+BsyMfosEHzG2NtsfKway/8SX BDyQ0T3QoHgUppjOjJbKOW5M393maj9NBVzbqljieWWjkwVOVKJ3qgAsQm5syaXV qNaRyPneylr+/G3bbJX7dpnPmyIZREZl9/xauhXlZbhbf9sXVle2jycnrhbUuQ2U 1tlsZLft8LL0LfLpMNwe =hUno -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] before quitting
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-12-18 18:26, pured...@11h11.com wrote: hi, [closebang] is maybe called but when using Ctrl+Q my shell bang is not execute (using something like [kill -9 xxx - [shell]). well, first make sure that [closebang] does get called. e.g. start Pd with -stderr and print something to stderr. trying to use hcs - noquit: what's it supposed to do? you can configure the kiosk plugin [1] to (only) intercept Quit-shortcuts (Ctrl-q, Ctrl-Q) and disable the menu. fgamsdr IOhannes [1] https://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/guiplugins/kiosk-plugin -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSsYIQAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4PHwP/0TEUhP/wi4jqUpcqGtth2zW pGNt2l6MnOZKMLUvRw/pn6gANsQQcmhfd0Ot7tHeEXmYyZRvQvteS/01KPMzjI+z tyBqhMv3l4KAC3CZv+qDuy+DvJRQh+5340kHU0to+bYR017kp+FGYjPKArIDDytJ UD6l2lMiRfadasyiNIJc2z2aC512vO/GzL5Dtjfzvfbv6vjJ7jnQzf4JtuTPElGE DYQ7owh4w0+WlrsSoqnoEnQ+Nq3AFgnw0rs/Zacaq99lqOqGdr0R6s7Bo4TqhJSB V70d0+yjxwiloOUqszOcc477GJSrKOxo8STvvgwa/2JS5kFkGigBnSFik0FXRFUF 2xFDK690hsFG6PUfxEtNgWd/N/PeGrhHjY3JfJW4xXKvFxn+iyh/DbBeQ9hR7CvI yw7T2Nx/3ZdC3PfijtAM1ILJ6SQdycvIgP8112kW/Tq+YkCpuB3YkQm0OiOwcDW3 BgFKYpNNselpc9n51lQf0gC7F7XB5sG8DAF8h1Z7kAC/lOfwAKMUhl1UwpoUILO3 TVnQPSPl9FGiEqE1y1ijYz7kSSsbpzeTVUDqCc/gcR5rzlimU3r5TqzRdhFO2Ero 2ZLyAWfJFBpOX+9NC4uJFsrXhXsYpYbbgtKIPmBbuFnJBA3hr3z8UnDi024BmpXQ CV/i/N9s7zKPx9mglq/v =0LIx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Get current patch filename sith iemguts / get console messages for Arduino
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-12-17 12:45, Jérôme Abel wrote: Hi list, I've two questions : please post one email per (unrelated) question. 1/ How could I get the patch filename ? In a dynamic context, I need to get the patch filename when user do a save as, so the filename change. in theory you should be able to do this with [savebangs]+[canvasname]. but it seems that [canvasname] won't return anything for top-level patches (and you cannot change the name of an instantiated abstraction). i'll try to fix the former. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSsGqeAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4jRIP/1Cf9rdPADgXhyGrHBUd8q0Z wqf0PvHVnctRA1RAeA71WtU3bk3GvnwzcuDiLcBK74CQ2761hsv1Mlah06VDU3h6 8dCzUZfYMucZuLXPYpqSuGr6U2A6eoUkjqR7+kMLS/+VlGlD55Hp3iAfKg5NEWKx SAZYbp9OGx4QVpI9YVvrRRvZx6dvuN86C7TE44fdP9JcFr/iNjiR7BxjLw5W2MXq Lng5vsV46jARF12rcjKAVw/DNGGjw7emrpkx7XKygxDKUo5PT9d9p1FiZ1WYEio4 N2D+7a/OBsuAULJX/C1rYo+u44Xt66I57kyzSlyjG+4hfVK3sZ4yj1SBYsteNq7W kESEJ+qYYMSy9LcvI9WnaVEnB2QG3hytjWA3J++yvWDq0sVLZMP++/xAkCUAQycA XSufnSILnvffNswci4EMbg6wt41BfG6R4nP5llOkGMHuxvDZdc8qqC5BHVVZKhbr stJideEBBy0KCcMLYF9hwDshEYsMJxpDcAsw82CKljNzUM3pci6jsJ0t+O5BFqzs WhAM6lcFl0BU59f1i/NW9y7Iwve3T1Ww3422/kIfy6rzshnD6qyKdoZtP6GIkCCZ e7deBFF3+2FZQuAfCzeHM48rfKoYS5Fj6xB5dMZGr27gSehwaLc2q/EjgVEtCSeh YX+6HL3AEeJnvMKozco5 =hX4J -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Ugly looking fonts in printed postscript patches on MacOsX
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-12-10 14:28, Arda Eden wrote: Hi, After a few hours of work I decided that my solution was not a good idea. :) If I go back with Mr. Puckette?s script, how can I use it ? Is it a command line script or a piece of code that will work in pure data ? it' an 'awk' script, design to be executed by awk. something like the following should work: - - save the script snippet as fixfonts.awk - - then run: awk -f fixfonts.awk exportedpatchfile.ps fixed.ps see man awk for more information. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSpyU4AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4sUIP/jI3+qI2MFN8U6m20R3o7iRe I5E+EztKC3NNslepK8ursQM+42H6I44PZ6zYLk4eW9CYOLEEAqRQSmxG3HjSZtRS mBSLO5P5oeScnqX2jV0csLOkIpttl7IoPMIw6GOF7UT9tIvmtp60X5I9xiOAsQ1L WRap1SS+6f2eppkQFwOBU4DkHBiyWWmQ4ykyRYcJPFqqIkgGvltiTFVyYyMpnSx6 IKbVv6rGOxdZ+C0NnW6288/xPdm0ABSGmq7iKz0pU5IidCig/PLIepSsWsnDra6h XcXKfIEc+Mpz7Rw4vfDuD5KvOKn9b/qJtaeyWVsBxrBl4UbTaoBtgCSsRkHMmUJc YEq1Kt5PzaHYPd7/TlHGafc1eD5GxpzwyyExxhKHwxJsI+La0QZh/7JNBJmatRbC xllMW1hP46ut0TNa9qfAvsemXcUoQyOFYnIRyqYUPfMuHSmqUitNIt5H87mrIc79 ABPAH/t7YhHvBYcYxfBiuVOioT4iH934qnPIP/DVMcJkERNhVO6qkbaFKO95EDNO c9UFyrOmuamwUslzkSCv+riJB3xDsIc2DZPMunim20OP8K1YfEBSDOWkL08Yup9E 4zE0IS9T+K62i0f7AaJoHtzEZ0LzgPaPYhUyl6rrAjsKrSYrivmtcEx3DKGJAyWo Zzv3Io7MhRY27hNgsAQn =bhVE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Is there an outlet and inlet limit for [mtx_*~]?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-11-19 13:58, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: Has anyone experienced any buggy behavior by setting lots of outlets and inlets to a [mtx_*~]? I'm designing some hardware that will be using this object and the prototype, on a breadboard, behaves fine with 16 outlets and 16 inlets. Haven't tried more than that yet as it is quite cumbersome on a breadboard, so thought of asking if anyone knows of any limitations of this object. the sky (and your processing power) is the limit. fmgadr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSi2j/AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4TtwP/2+TOsqK8f79of/3+saUiLTr wTQW7IOgVUq0Jaukf/2y//JPuxpb0wuRrpMIGQcecz4eiRS+bxE/shQ+IXENfGmw F8cQdXFiAStPdS9PkTI+I8Sc9bAuKt6ogUgM5LwDhfHHQG8KZNQxbt3gXXuiWQu7 QvQwdMErRCeAdfQ/88iz4ZNtsBDjH49K+REG01iqOInjOh92OuTK4ieb8JD3ufX5 SzApyibEXujuKPZHtomQICSPPgF/F7pYYrHPLmYkxvGfi5w4Eg8QDz3StGwlG+9L HmbuBZ9MF4q3mrdS78Ds8rRL58KdqzI31zW6AqJYzmb18ObtRCBbZZpXx4k+/gY1 XGOyNLnv7dAJiwxT5Hj3SPH0VUhHNc9ez8A74ysEe827MT1HpUVJozUkDVgEg+uV OyVG/KLUuXI6BI/l6Pt1akep1Nh50b5kFepk8c68mXYDm6A1mcZUYjI11eFDOR35 yj530vNRGJpJbXSbiWdmqyyg8cZ4KlL64Sq4rDBPpNU3tOV/R3TNJG9DNUSWqZoe JHgGe6yq0XUDFVI8SmyQSJbP9Qkij35rTs0cNMASmJ49EwCUv9aRkewSkKA7n1P/ pC/8XRW9DHhRUPVLRGN/NQIqT3fOZ3oF1aACWlAJvGk20R8oZzVViXLozBi6gE9U rTlwoUfxglSyoti0EHeN =7Tp+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Selfdestroying patches
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-11-18 11:06, Patrice Colet wrote: De: Ronni Montoya ronni.mont...@gmail.com Hi, im opening multiple instances of a pd patch from openframeworks using the ofxPd library . My patch generates a grain, so when i create multiple instances of this patch from openframeworks it generates a granular cloud. I need that after the grain is generated ( when sound finishes) the patch can selfdestroy itself ( instance get closed) . How can i do this? Hello, you can do this with internal message menuclose to a canvas [; my_patch_name menuclose( the full syntax would be [; pd-my_patch_name.pd menuclose( with my_patch_name expanded to the patch-name. so if you open a patch named foo.pd, you could do [; pd-foo.pd menuclse( the problem with this is, that it will not only destroy the patch, but make Pd commit suicide, if part of the message-chain that triggers the self-destruction is within the patch itself. e.g. if your foo.pd contains the above example and you click it, your Pd will go poof. so make sure that the destruction logic is (completely) outside of your patch. another problem is, that this method will delete *all* instances of a given name. if using an external is an option (i don't know how this is with ofxPd), the [canvasdelete] object in iemgut's might help you here: it allows single instances of abstractions to commit suicide without killing Pd. (afair it only works on abstractions, not on top-level patches though). fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSifDwAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4PNgP/0OoZW/we31I0NqKLmwMJquB raZSAfV117IcDXk8lCHn9vJVTdXdzkHbyukbFCEOmdm+gNc8NpG6jpOoqr3wxZzR sMI04CpaEZO0heFze1WDJjJI/v/+8ap5miizZvj5UP2fbJdiVyoe4tDduHcsXNLK BPmLPyGnUGg8MnBlOeJ7yhkeFeDuAoyEINRwVGC49JcW8T3v5WEcYtmparVa96Qt y3T3OonrJub4ud+GdpS3yLkNl7SJ+9Eh5H0bqjGNRbvJOt2smpe8pOU5cQtgLwfo kmlXgy6p3ouyb/R2773UZL8aoohIhXaD1hx3NClOn3LfLR399AnUBO4knbwgF5di 1+YWgwaEVeRd04/VW/5va4yg0JyZr+JJO/9RV6CTh0MypBw7sDXpkIrwMvXsc3Ps KT+pHFkVW5BzgPpZ1TVgO206xw29ledWJ+Xp8pXUQiFXNAu50YdhE4Rqk0nI9F0y Du0Xo14C34kUwSgiG/KYJ61VcdcWDL7TcryPifDe54d3WGjStbdS9aDMVsVci9DT 9CtDaLogje1XO4yJ9DYZ32guucmv2M+uE2Cq4E8+Y2Z0LXPZExFyxRsTQbilLYBN nrsGUXVwh6voWtfE9nP9aZ+GlOcfgbBSIdV4nCV8rvPl28LqXndzne+pj/wA3VP6 NiIhUEy0BTmoyXAL/K5y =hhQa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] using multiple asio devices
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 hi all, i wonder whether anybody found a solution on w32 to use multiple ASIO devices at the same time. background: we are using a multi-channel *input* (that is: no output) soundcard (with only ASIO drivers). we would like to hear what we are recording, so we need to access another soundcard (with outputs) in the same instance of Pd. let's assume that the two soundcards are synched somehow. fgasmdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSgQzuAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4raQQAIhLE7MFlrbXFHMFOW9lgXU+ sdJflG2l+kk0yCumpNMjr7QFWw/WRMgbdt0D4XEVxz1fLIoB6zHGx5tdg6RmsQoq EgEmaNSO460CInjkTVPEQLJiD4Op6SLwm7q6JEzX1CNtq0eZ/s+KCEjJ2ossuyk8 J8kzKqTw9Zcd6oLuuounq5FLahCCOwwxyur/9UeFfPK/FqlkpnZAqX3g5RfPCLD6 MDK9yjKNDJkCfIjWo5c5prAFfvYOgg0RLAo+N/h1XsT0ELu574J4TDL7cGZ6C01D 5G9jG7vT6Wa7j5aENy1nsQbxsNj6rJuti+lVIp6JVgi1UUCrMZTcxxmCt9Bu9bWf LdrdbdeUXOvuZVBYgGATit6WIDoUDtvDcvVZybd7UVgqdMwgl9a6F52vJ13CH//P fysX0+Mbsgw75Go+wlmEMi+KyBVFP72j9xRFFnZ4YZVRH4r4QHkzS1Ft0h0d6fdX sYGTnYxcbBS/VruKxRhHT/+ALlP3DBmBfZW9iex2BHTV4Tt4NhdVDLIqYshxOtJu 7ko8CDsteIK8Qt0Ee4BSqbBRlJbWsoAP6UtNTwQXF2oPlnyT88vKQ0ilt4V7iNYu Qb5h5MpEysTtXJdlfxmREzWOd0tn2VChfF4K7LIw3AL6S3g6COEuKafNcU6lNjPm YzkNQacAdqZ7mB8DVo1E =ULE9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] puredata pacman download?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 i wonder where the great pac data implementation can be downloaded these days. the old link [1] only gives 404. fgamsdr IOhannes [1] http://claudionervi.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/PAC-DATA.zip -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSe6CWAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4N30QAIH3Y1M+jEu5FeZoFYdxKJlo 9vrKytmM5WJQHqa7HkwCHdkkfYCCEui5evfLLuzO8TvBqng1uohUXX+eQTKBMDSY VUqRGuxV8bcol9tAn8MLpGHUbsu79VnBy1u7VD20RW6dFvAZQ1FUvvJdcDWyY8ft fEpPOb95kBXmmmz2I9IOWy6CMvsYU8SGI316emy2Dsw/NJQUys15MNkZtMWOnfrv hpGuXLVXLKRYrOhHA2XxZsnr+ceoAeaG8db4xjCno1QoMCxG4SPZtQ0abXJ+k7bE NfuXEK6S0J9ZMWz579VVHpDRfb29O6WJgWeMo9naO7TsEbTAOdB59j02NPPZub3L EZdYgzhVLjO8UPOqI+63z3w+GkMdcsvoMqjRLLVPC7gHJB0ZlxgO5k9g/bu4POY4 sYM/68mWwooTjWrs+gK0txBhgUh2b2yrpFbosI2RxgxoZUvaJbMPcFp9F30Ppatg Qw0mbKvpuj9ZeYvc3ZMDTk3sb6e+ZMlcRM+JuvxKxHb3AoGfwiEAC29m1EDfQksh aYjD2myfBZYUwC/DqepEzewFr3s83wtnvGEanKDxkaI7Cv0HcH6vzlOGYgV3nWex o+9+9aXZz3kQgRinwp+4AVuXpw2TnEuDmyZi8YNdmPdAGcGS2HJg7Kko5FuUQHvr MI1hLR1Rh4KS7mY+xA1Q =TdWa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pow~ question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-28 10:00, peiman khosravi wrote: According to the help patch, the argument of pow~ should initiate the right inlet, but it doesn't seem to work. according to the source-code, [pow~] simply ignores any creation arguments (which explains why you don't get what you expect) pleas file a bug-report at http://bugs.puredata.info/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSbimrAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4998QAJbUXWRcIzAbrzepiQUZTzj3 GLNtGWFLG4JgJEmjemDZpWp7yhHrzB6meaIxX+F/GFXrzv5/CSzD/C/iJgyUjM3k zscXNg8xYil8vhKHjx+pcxB+8kHiDHkNQ9BoL2nKkD9+w9mjc5TY3ILW3VpoV5Fb BR6lSrM7OjnPXy+Kr/k5XyYJUY540zkr1ImsYajADHegkb9NXwmbkVAtQ3LQbCPo A3KjFgm4THtQgR6rvCr6i4KL8u2cXspn8bclGnt6HKsUd1mBpQzBoPRUV2qIpndl hT0sEwImnmtWAC6Z/hjU0Lwsir7nbCtsi3xNtjbTBdfOsXCIatKSaPfhS2bDILWk 35VXosjB2g4JpSbU+OQjSQgOOM7Ly1PpdXtLRzVSEpCwDCyjy8cRZKfXv4iYceg2 ma3Xa+upe04xZwy3PIEWaMsIyjeTzl+SFH8MgLIc3XmCewgvINKFnWF5AEVbHRNh ZjbNByn7oN0a+6gbsBLnzKmPhw5hs6sPCeaCyuSMFgQdJBrsJqkE5X8SQu3/Xytj tsznJWInevIZyuevUB7QgAWyE7RcH6js+TK4jbrkxBys4PXngZYOI7sR2RwEPNG7 RRSTC8TPffXQfgwFEo36bi1z55pYVrdA7Ap8PyFnKRL7aNKTKJJ1lvAMN679DmYX oJpBnR57n5zwPmdyxoYf =wyjI -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pow~ question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-28 17:36, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: There has been a patch on the tracker for this since February: http://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/patches/499/ Since it describes both the problem and the solution I see no reason why you should waste your time re-reporting the problem. nobody requested that. if a bug is already reported, simply add a message that states that you can confirm the bug (me too). if you encounter a problem, you might even check the bug-tracker before reporting it somewhere else (in some cases you might notice, that the bug has already been fixed!). (but personally i'm fine if you post a problem here first; just don't get pissed off if somebody - like me - tells you to use the bug-tracker) fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSbpf8AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4qs8P/R51IC02nAgCuHORzhcV9ThM F1kLico1/ZXThHyz0oNL34zdxMqWX4Y/u5iSmhi917qFK+GNofaxVC3alTpL+BMw UgpTk3X9Auw5xZVGGLJwGkN9Qk/xOxjFJkxozJEazlBEzN/u0byxmofHIwwrYSKO yElBdWLhB9Xxvk+n9JRKw84ABHyMZ4H8Jcz5uWh4dxVPuMgwT7cokDL8DRnUwSEc 4LmPVZfEy3LZk9jDZe0QHkF3wjIKbTzonce25y3oonsXi4qFNZ00afMzSPt0WMm2 oKetOdKNronzRQoQhIiVgCBz7fK7atGttPV6K8GrXzVouWyf5so6wXOgRVxhECDY XtxQ+b49ChgFnot14iD0+I3cc1Ujwr+HL4sPoanQH4ebwMYPoP8q4YPEl65mt3yS 3OKn0oD7Nb2Zs92CkUc7oF4aQkjwI/kdGngbuOWYBaLKpN+pmx7zZ38uVE+LHYNo VehCY2Kd0xpIFmPUlmc5nXhAwhnYhev3h+YjcFPfxmKQSvz1TNGqA4mSnwfW912x 29FDBFLL7fsJMI/3fGuGZe5W+y+PkmJSQLwnXcm3KdJ/57yE1hWoPrVofOrh9vRU wcQh7+hH0Lb8wWSexU37cbbUgfjgU43b8cYXnTOYojImZbK1fi4FnW8nLiOrvG+c usO7ZTd8FxLILZ/bwNDF =RysT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] USB power off from [shell] for eliminating MIDI interfaceproblems
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Hash: SHA256
On 2013-10-17 10:27, Ingo wrote:
Thanks for the suggestion!
I know this can be done with a relay but it's not doable in my
particular case. I really need to find out how to do this in
software.
Unbind and bind in /sys/bus/usb/drivers/... won't work either,
btw. I managed to turn the interface(s) off and on but not the
power supply. So the problem persists.
There is a maximum power setting that allows to specify the number
of mA but is tells me that I don't have permission (as root) to
make changes.
It's also not possible to unplug and replug the interfaces as they
are in a closed box.
there's a rather old post at stackoverflow [1], which seems to suggest
that the route to go would be a USB2 hub that allows power-switching.
oh, and i just tried to switch off my mouse, by doing:
# PROCPATH=$(lsusb \
| grep -i mouse \
| cut -f6 -d' ' \
| sed -e 's|:| |' \
| while read v p; do \
for vf in /sys/bus/usb/devices/*/*/idVendor; do \
dev=${vf%idVendor}; grep -w ${v} ${dev}/idVendor
1/dev/null grep -w ${p} ${dev}/idProduct 1/dev/null echo
${dev}; \
done; \
done)
# echo 0 ${PROCPATH}/power/autosuspend
# echo auto ${PROCPATH}/power/level
fmasdr
IOhannes
[1]
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1163824/linux-usb-turning-the-power-on-and-off
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Re: [PD] storing parameters in message with sprintf
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-15 22:05, Olivier Baudry wrote: Dear all, Is it possible to write message after sprintf set; function you can see below detail of patcher : most likiely you are trying to create a couple of messages like /harmonizer/hamp 12.1 10. but [sprintf] (btw, there is no [sprintf] object built-into Pd (nor is it needed most of the time)) will not create messages, it will create a symbol. it will even create symbols containing spaces, which are a bit tricky as they look exactly like ordinary atom-lists (messages, objects with args) that use space as delimiter, but unfortunately are something completely different. it seems that what you really want to do is to build (and send) a set of parameterized messages, which can be done using $arg expansion. e.g. the folowing will send a message 2 to the receiver foo, a message 2 to the receiver bar and a message 10 to the receiver baz whenever you click on [list 2 10(. [list 2 10( | [; foo $1; bar $1; baz $2( see the msg-help (right-click on the msgbox) for more info. if you don't want to send those messages immediately but create a msgbox with fixed values that you can copy around and click as an easy preset system, you could do: [list 2 10( | [set, add, add foo $1, add bar $1, add baz $2( | [ ( replace the [list 2 10( msgbox with a [pack] to make the values changeable at runtime. some other notes, you might find useful when patching: subpatches (e.g. [pd foo]) do not evaluate the subpatches arguments. e.g. if you have a patch containing a subpatch [pd listiter 2] and within the subpatch yo have [zl iter $1], then the '$1' will not (necessarily) be replaced by 'listiter' and even less by '2'; it will be replaced by the argument you gove to the [foo] abstraction! Pd doesn't have a built-in [prepend] object. there are a number of libraries that provide imncompatible [prepend] objects, so it's better not to use them. Pd has a built-in [list prepend] object (unless you are using an old version of Pd) which will mostly do what you want. if you want to get rid of the list selector, you can use [list trim] thereafter. however, if you only want to append a single value to fixed selector (as indicated by [prepend /harmonizer/hdelay]) you can simply do $1 expansion in message boxes: [harmonizer/hdelay $1( fgmasdr IOhannes PS: how did you manage to create objects at coordinates like -3742 - -1745?? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSXkfZAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4VxwP/0/0PKqLroJaxLdufbdd2jK6 coIaGWyjjIRtBnof80CfK7HrXEX55Z7tq/Wpky345Ddkul6yfaH+8B4zCHSoAb5/ ahRKjBRRXdxZIUUO5+aHUjU2NCB3IXlelUQFcqoQfSJY6t8neBnPJ6RqmWen7bQX o1jLPG1bbqSnxYz0PQBwE6p9jzvgsYpS5G5J3q/ZEk0dB+1ISU51sZ8dCdm7LCQ5 /jwTYhLq7e/UjznSQtHwZ5FqQhwGlKKp2oYrU1pqUoE37jt2NAzRaiIb+VricT/D 75waZ5wlO6JV8uyEUmOionbLRf9Xo3hYp8FjN5JgJPD4BcTF56nmnC5oguhTMzvK woo7oYZ3idtYOZ4rVSw7AEudYsyhYqoDmuqA+awo5crQ1PDmVx0qmu8dRRYExocL RljTeNsINJmhqB19YA3FRc50zgsb5nOZ6Kyq0xSNio1TxDI5X93dhePL1f4AKG/h f4wYsP2zq0SRSoF2QvVSMDkTg+9Xuv5bODYUSpn28fcMLvK35exkFbzr3qUMf/NT 7MHPHuGRBV7GnpHUWZutqpZRYNslV51CqbrEIY8NHuKZ5yJvU1siQ6BN28zmsVD6 5qMc2Hk3Wn2kf9vYFRFB2oaOSn6/9kQX0fT8aAYETzmz5mPE4el8ObVN3x/Ne+Ei fXG7V1aEzhTxetskKf+V =Ey02 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended in raspbian repo's
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-15 07:07, Julian Brooks wrote: Hey all, Last week I advised some pd-rpi beginners to d/l PdE from the raspbian repo's but it seems to have disappeared (it was there when I advised them). where 'there'? dfsnadr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSXR10AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4LZUP/i1hglUkEdZYIeaGCFj0S+Rj VrLGW4+TsU/y/N+LMC9LfYqTANQg/r6N8dx0W1kd2p4XvTm/Qb5CvqDHIXq3AXmt 6L65GTXSxBE8tj8D32rJW2GUe5QhK/kYVbcAA6tMuHbOHP1YWWc2jUdjFq+wf0XO l1xWJJf5VX5gNHrxoM09+bhy8Vap2uE8QCMEgthkQNronoSFRaM7TwAqa6QE8wZz Po4OljB03BKrqPzZEMvWsaIbjt9gQPkl6SpLII1BC+rEk/DGnmD+fDeWSDYQb8qv jrOnOd6wv4p0rNed8L5n92cHWoG58eXXFpGXMZnJQFcjcWChnWaAaCm3V7UH2qq3 XyWpvJXzMlMikKw33SjgBsvWjiUKZXsjPZ+aQE52OKcWCqZRLJqAh2iGVXT7C1wV ZSXa20fg/uDpyGDtW305ep6yEpGWpDpbikQ0eSqH/oUPt82H8rfBKPd60LT93yIR 3fU2OcFBeti50NZ8DuaHb5SZRPhHCVwQ1gFILjPRjffhuLVGfjqM8LVrqErryjcX F711u97e/BMPQWOYt/f1XcejA+55mabfFFcRsgw0Hl1lF1bcqa+tOPdqVnPs8+zU QMATe27ob1iXjDQLQHQc0anw85YsX5RdCBm5zyP7wyFXCs5W61bO1D4dQExvaKOF Y5zrPV6nG/dFbPPyOeh2 =4RA/ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] http://wiki.puredata.info/ ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-06 22:00, Py Fave wrote: hi list http://wiki.puredata.info/ what is this redirection ? it is a redirection to the actual webserver. the adress seems bizarre. how come? the URL address you see points to the cloud-service of the department of media arts at the art university in zurich. i don't see anything bizarre there (it's not facebook or google though). is there something there? afaik the pdwiki is down. fgmasd IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSUmKhAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4/TIP/3/qQ2CIDnqX1qYBIUDueQRm YwCfi+FKRI+zK/vZucAQEvffUG2URcBdSXNHpTwuvGPaJMulUUOGVqEjusEhmSlN JDcDdRn+4jDQh76Niu4V/me0i3ZBvJ7Ldj4vKM2Q3C8tCcVEype5JEl/cZ9MW7zf O6CQygOuBphRkXWsSC/WudZ+LGgeR2CMzXfM+VXbI1nt3xra+uTzDKdS0zo3+oq9 akcbBukKEbGo7RLT142WI0/VKPNnrlRys3Ifijhta/NuE6jMXI6AScFBECMn/giP vBm2eLO5hg6WVz+T+zsXuGdrcocghAgdj0X4lzNcrOdgFQGWuhKYQopr5J4TdF8M kFKFsSVx3eTXdHpbUySo/ggoMMVqnF6V6Vxwu2656Lk0c8h2OEghnd/fjNfUU4/9 fhP/T78f3miw9YXBo+b/QjXVFjm0mlCL70+fOcz3g78sE2Z+uIc1wvuruBukq/cB ac0QL+RCXCF8D/szu/JTDIzJd95jFeE2eUNSk+jbj5hw14SzB+1cESmg9KpsD8tQ E1DQbDHQdqO3WnGZ7And1AFTXAbrWS9oMOZryPo3FcgJo23JYdY1fKB2oag+CbZ9 4WwsWcEyBzUyf1LOahH/hwU8Jg/rMcS6mXuA00rPtrJ2vd2TxKUL0sElU5KolDOL 6LisPbmL9nw9Yv26uEfn =lpgE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] $1 inside a message is not saving data ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-07 03:13, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: and as such it seems logical that a msg should retain its last known state, no. that's totally unrelated to being consistent. so that when receiving a bang it would output its last stored values. why? i think the current behaviour is very consistent though probably less convenient than some would like to have it. ...how is [$1] retains value and [msg] doesn't (except it does anything other than $n) consistent? [$1] does not retain it's value. [$1] gets evaluated at instantation time, and it could evaluate to [print] in one patch and to [netreceive] in another patch. if you have an abstraction foo containing [blu $1 $2] and you call it once as [foo 10 20] and once as [foo 3], the latter will not have a [blu 3 20]. [*] the only thing that [$1] retains is, that it will evaluate to the first argument of the patch. msgboxes (assuming this is what you mean by [msg]) retain their meaning in the same way: [$1( will always evaluate to the first list-element of the incoming message. As you said, it's consistent in terms of having been Pd's dollarsign behavior forever. Outside of that specific type of consistency across time-- i.e., backwards compatibility-- I see no valid argument that either way is more consistent. Both approaches are self-consistent. They (presumably) work exactly the same regardless of the context in which they get used in a particular patch. i cannot recally having said that one of the two approaches is not consistent. i only argued that the current behaviour already is consistent (and thus consistency is a bad reason to change it) Then, there are those situations where properly formed message is passed through the msg object with no reported errors but is still malformed according to the receiving object below msg. An error is thrown by the receiving object but one has no way of recreating and studying the offending message... do you have examples for that? Another thought is that just like [$1] retains last data value during runtime, shouldn't [msg] too? After all [msg] retains the rest of the list inside it not only during runtime but also during save, so why would not it retain its last data during runtime? see above (and please clarify what the [msg] object is) fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSUmU6AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4THgP/0cf3rsNKo2rIDb2jNj05LrE r1sftt9zsPdpv32CZIuH75MY8/hwZOBGGQNAzbnjscIV8/RDn7kG+Rm1d6pSa8a1 m8Ad4tsdIS0k/eJEJWkPb7Sg6lJ5AUzSdwZJhaRmbAj4dL5NomMFQF9Q4slsZntJ Qk6HJY4d65gphtQEXZuUk5wF6HRcFo472S6KtH//piNU7vxyfSgGv8vlz9zZsnDC S3d7Ji7xPDAhpo+3DQ0fubsvqIKN9iyyYI732d7aYmbcQMlNLOUBV4bUZmdCBCr+ yaAUEy2dB+vp8KgghNQCTJmV8qbZgNA8JJVRoFUGyx7TDEN2Cu6ov2WlLiI5D46O RNozIVN2I+un03yiTLFx7nRLiixGy2zkLnrICwpnblS/d68vLrsFkGhSrc5nryDu L98gML8GYNtiOIot3OrmQLSa25XlO7KxTPgcbv5X6geiBdjUz34gPm/iQDwFvx9E jdlofkuwKXlryKyQeddXvuLOFG97Hyg8D9jUtx2sFKQRRhXTrWvvaxEKNkxjGJMo 0v0IrvTZYJo9DZZ1ORW5UVCAkiXkVG90t9nsjglzmmPdGsV3Czxi6LVcAJuhmFHd xNR6t6RYMqhK7bQJQKhboDD9s+/S8OLeAukly4fioSV38dSub6kv5W0NVLbnEIGW JnGODiERTu9JY8/xhmDe =zfjX -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iem_tab can't create object
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-07 13:53, Jack wrote: I still get pd crash, even with iem_tab load first : since when does your Pd crash? your original post only claimed that the objects could not be created. what is your system (OS,arch,...)? gfamd IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSUqW9AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4waMP/2oAbXdN/45Zw3rorV7h1dAE LWxlEXNzBQZzLPzys4rIkofbXHRhlKwmu6k2eloLdqZXOKq0nnqMpDStQl+15P62 0hJhN+i8XEOIsGO3YrxlL6pbmBsbi8j1sgDNBi5GE/qOjj5OMulJ/652rl9yuXMU 4VAfBLO+AnAJMJDDFyZZCqZTHga2scR/dJTsCV2YO+9ZzgZWQLt+84uSeCC9QzTZ prE6P00HI87eO+FsqpGWEBh7gM9ZF+LKr0jNPJQV8QwoWR/jmOO7IHD81t9mAif4 lHFnLm7nO0bnLw1yoNF4P+lwUvnJoQg7fdVbjYl/YchsAB1HrOUuw7ukrSZ9f5In DTISXEn34rq8paFQyy/xc6U/IXYXrwOsqrMM79zOVBDoQAY/lJdu1tJdj7pISzca zpDzOkqT+ZY/SjPir46paDvNmseu7BQlWQXZAtnCzZ5kOx98LeZ04Qb8u0JCEzZv mKeSr7H4fuO/cB/BDbmqg3xwjMy+fOHRrhVvDCLwDzP4dD6ytfo9M6Vi5SN89v88 wXpjBsKOWgjLZ8T87eGvDKGg2FcgbLYTV+N2mXK5jDHQ05v+EgQ4A/+n0UTc4u88 isNUM6/n0jyhnG7FZWwO3mCGDnoUVfdipwLIPgFl39Sm0/UcIldBLmby1fUkkP5i x3aEs+DpgvnLkqlrHj9N =DX9Q -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pdp 0.14.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-09-30 18:45, Tom Schouten wrote: Hi List, Here's an update to PDP: http://zwizwa.be/pd/pdp/pdp-0.14.0.tar.gz thanks a lot for this. while preparing the package for debian, i noticed two more issues: - - the (lib)v4l check in configure seems to be confused. namely AC_CHECK_HEADERS([libv4l1-videodev.h], have_v4l=yes) AC_CHECK_HEADERS([linux/videodev.h], have_libv4l=yes) seems to be reversed: if libv4l1-videodev.h is found, then libv4l is installed; if linux/videodev.h then the (old, deprecated) kernel-header for native v4l1 support is detected. the attached patch swaps the two checks. - - closing the glx window quits Pd without error :-( gmadr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSUvFSAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4iREP/iLrAk842IOBHFvFQBIjeO7j m8WVcxBS3o0XPAJj4wXsGaK7hS/Cl6MfTEVqvWwTIuFCALiF+2XCBmi0B3ECAla2 SCVL3wJ192Ymo4hqlm3PHk7htRB91+UCptjC+ox49TTdqSA/esP7okYGcucIIACm aOJYko0zP0tF/AzLTBonwKYbuxiJ4gzx7EOmlwDS6l2Oke1OI6sKBZgD/1aPe00M W5OMWL5REG/L3+Oi/1uqFKrOpm3QRl4LZBe/QdpEi8Qb4XV8BqFPURgR7btJtXw1 iNdxMkVEMpxf9HUN1etZYqgcbADGvLi0vyrAqILfjDsURlPlrYh/3BG2q+/5Pl2o ovi3fpbC2JvPBcXHbPXiIcKZsjWwzzZQWrZ2u9OOgDfzcunI/iiU4mKBEdQqchBl Ircd0hpltsFz/Q6MmwI31qDqXO1VJjV4yAffyQN9mm/+U5kwipLYz4137ExkBtlN ZZg+dmvWwIzoHfmi04W4A8PRkJMtcQFOeZPnlA35Xj30doxcV9uypsnRGGFCsuZr hNjAj8O6sXdEDAXgFqHZwaWQ5eVexAdLNh8ZYMqtjQ2qWB5dhz+ECojq7h6bzEAH u/ZlmE0WMBCxDmdcBYNMC2FhV0VyqEX9fhjLbXHajgUO97kST4TuwD5fuNLLWPri 3Vmiq6s6O2a9VECoBGuw =jwPI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Author: IOhannes m zmölnig Description: original configure detects libv4l by checking ordinary V4L headers and V4L by checking libv4l headers; it should be the other way round. --- pdp.orig/configure.ac +++ pdp/configure.ac @@ -179,8 +179,8 @@ else have_v4l=no have_libv4l=no - AC_CHECK_HEADERS([libv4l1-videodev.h], have_v4l=yes) - AC_CHECK_HEADERS([linux/videodev.h], have_libv4l=yes) + AC_CHECK_HEADERS([libv4l1-videodev.h], have_libv4l=yes) + AC_CHECK_HEADERS([linux/videodev.h], have_v4l=yes) if test x$have_libv4l = xyes then ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tanh() or a compressor?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-01 16:30, Mario Mey wrote: How does Pd or the soundcard outputs the signal 1? Does it compress it? depends on the actual backend and how you are using it. e.g. some backends only support values that cannot possibly exceed +-1; in these cases, the signal will be hard clipped! with some other backends (that support floating point values natively) you might get away with a compressed/limited signal. if you don't know, it's best to assume that anything exceeding +-1 will be clipped. even if you do know, it's better to assume that they will be clipped. I started this thread because I saw the high peaks in an array... but I never listened the sound distorted. with very transient sounds (like clicks and pops) you might not hear the distortion, as these values are very broadband anyhow. btw, make sure that your signal is not already distorted on the soundcard input. you cannot undo that... fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS80zAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4w7oP/imJTt1s3zNaZv3npavA0YJT oL0cne6eS6bQ726jE133aRik0z2AZ3jWeiDC565kRoQcrf5Gml8qRvu5HnyR0J13 8H1FImL6rnsBTlusfy63tcj5GO450/nW5MY4xryCIep0K/EMufdudwNUVa9iu3Ar G74ifuN/eikpRZd8wBBB9ohAvqGU6qolLYqWq+acDBpAy0Z9rn+9NJMDsfrWNGDh dV552L9S6pnieocZbTcsKmLpxnc/VeCbNIUUCQsksEuY5XKkbenj0u7o8zzfEsF2 IbGiMP16q3OzDJdVzABu13w9Vd890jLMVeGQZe9f4OuMz07VebHRNht97vOC1obw f3DDGAbABd0XqJPl0yaMhTMF+L/ndXcHIthF5LHN65OqzDJlge+Mj2e1ZrXj6VGg 6KK+6SjoWRGNAMMeauTsQyjG/cu9UfYJ1gjgSk38trqKzAZupwi9J+ysnvUjOzfh ib7TNGeJCm34GLNwZs6lta+53cMkLApADfQkR7+CFJrS9f+x1RMcoIizl4gnMcgu TPAeuhWwbjebo/O3dwtokb2CxeMsa3vDmM3zT78khtYmmh5/ZJAMI3+Re+5FcvkQ tVgIfexS7ghmISZOlPRfpCp+TGnES8xMmXzsql0Q+tKGWWt1sxZ3/P6di4zP4oiF 9BQxOCAGJ+wUk/S+TIRT =jR3Z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.45-3 test 1 released
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-02 09:22, peiman khosravi wrote: I know this is only test. But any chance of a 64bit build so that I can which OS and architecture? linux on arm64? fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS82zAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4ThsQAIEK8nveJtEbWam55/0E3pVk ryBSDrv82gcMZdwEuZOyi5tgyawRIbQ55bdmXX+RyiIy6swkEUlAsAys9CeLb2cR xk/e2PDMl1futqh5hbTqFDDtBvpNM3b/MAJzEynQCRSJr2uFPEdExp47SdeYtDUU i/2P7b68Wma33kjuiauNz0/aPMnHh9Qpr8GW4bK9eGIA7Eryt7JmCLwjDia3+tvn jSm5ETt76nhuksX9FRV+8C5Co3uBOnN59XjGW9W/ftVLxavXTR0EnnVGpJJisMOV 3PwtLtc2JGhmr/Ct3lVkCqPjnAbz8dRmRmA4hNeRho7/no56SGqE8DwKuL+Nwu/V x+QImY3j966d/oOC/JE5tFbhygpoicQG6es7DzLQrp4QjCvwvzia1RNq5BC+NHUX 7KQuEyUAw001NpcCfPaQ/kbOtyZVt9XvQb2UcYWbzIHD7Ls36OIUssBcloqXOUXw dkjJAjLo5SIkzbwYbJnTQwUdV+P1+vr6OH5PqVYJ4W6rTi1umMa+OFIIQQF3/wXz 3lg7DYLoBOleb5QuTdlsxxcX9QgmapmiCRq1Sx7bYX/6kek2ZmDRcW5WMkl+Pyxf BtJzmWyxeCurbnoeaeqfqx2U1/qvWovN5/wbXLkoc50Fa3no9FNd4ZaEwnmyRQWY wbJe9mNwdpQRGG0f+KhL =S7o6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] udpsend not recognised
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-01 18:02, peiman khosravi wrote: I might be imagining this but I remember a discussion about OSC and one of these test releases, which I can't find now. I'm asking because I cannot get 'udpsend' to be recognised as an object on OS X 10.7.5. I've tried with both pd-extended and installing it manually alongside the vanilla version. i'm not sure whether i fully understand. Pd-0.45.3-test1 is a Pd-vanilla (pre)release. Pd-vanilla doesn't have [udpsend], as this object is an external (either from mrpeach/net or iemnet). Pd-vanilla also won't search for externals installed within (as part of) Pd-extended. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS9AvAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4KacP/R9XdmemHc2xr3AQFJvkrjmk cPgCflaNS3h0/PnnIhJ+ARCn756EHqUQ1cvxWy76M8+bLh0TQV4RB+AELEaMvrlz incbTYYr3WDNnKmoNJcP/xN3U8g6ay8oF2y1hcoVSxo3xD47uTZ94XgkkTginS8j G8eIGHdAGgXlRSulLOjPoigrBNp47gXISHkKxWZ92QsebK8lldcP8GOb5Gz0BqNH 7wps3UpTm5B+OEGo/yU6QLeSkEub77fwH8z++Axuc/PNgtaZdqQd9uyRlEumI4M1 sYaUHSiXG/maOtbA8TpaQfO1RSF1VEecCMw2MITtOIBFDNDzYZnyykNCPqS52APm gbhNf6Fip+k0jM3GkCX9jUjJWEvWmB9WFWnHqz7FrdvwHduHDz4PX3fSOlPahcuX D4Q9aoxTDGxaeFJPm8X7Uzuby9JaPpiVNoJOBE4qIRiW9oqug208wMFYDUwFHy57 fWARBPcMUcy+pXM7ZBhy2TEb7Y2EqaAW3qE3Wr3tRB0nyi6b0IT2CjKXiT5sMj4k LEiUe9JVB/N3351mHpDZiREHbFi+JOD/UR83ER22ovUu0BjcWzF9aWGZx6F/ST1M Oy6aTP4LUHcj3SOBdWHhB3epedjgK3BGr2aBsF9s3NJTMqYOBPR9JavFhgqeTFBx qW752uVnSv6tgfOkE9hv =fpgZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] writesf~ time to flush to disk…?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-01 18:47, Dan Wilcox wrote: Speaking of bangs doing the job, I wish [tabread] had a right outlet that banged when you gave it an out of bound index. I was trying to make a vanilla version of [tabdump] and that would allow me to know when I've read the whole table without needing to know it's size explicitly. so far i know of are two options: - - being not entirely vanilla and use [expr size($s1)] to query the tablesize at runtime (without requiring the user to provide it manually) - - stay entirely vanilla with Pd-0.45 and use [array get] which is a more powerful replacement for [tabdump] most compiled objects within zexy are there because i haven't found a way to implement them in vanilla (some are there because a vanilla implementation ist simply to slow; and the rest is there for vaniyt reasons) fasrm IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS9FjAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4UUUP+gPnvxs5SpNXl3A9KbC18y2v PLxl75yeloG5f60H8dLAzWdvCwvUAkpqgaCzesBNjDpJu/eDK8YWhXZz9sbP7EXm Q3DVzByXzavsgc1xAw1M8s4RAltlwdtvd5JZwRTgn862k+iCPn2UwFk3Em2JcdN0 f8pxj4m9KR6vXpRhfXZH1ZcdiGIltHC9uUAgBy/9e/e03uP5aaTju2iKgXhVb8jW 0OROQb9fhQTVYzG7OrYt+1zxMCWV2BrQVxTbFgbJxYuxIHgKLoNwEbG/2NhrNFLD +Gv98kjCp1R2bnn6EmTJiPk6zj7QsFe2oZmvw0a8ghSIQYo3H7S4eVJaHy8ng7rt F9Va66XGvG1p6K0IObnErvAJnDYDbj7PrF9kQL0vG256JkMJzqSxpSVstcnG0iLW D3JhXpq0Mnp0p7ZOwfCkXWuzNvOhFt22dYYqdkvYaUQkF4a12h6rzCWlXI/KsZRB Fm6gWgAPKBx6dYwGrLAaln0tNeVSCekU55ZALtNl7apjOsJik8KJbSZI0jXalOiU DxVTlj0mRCw3QrD7jzi1vShbU/z/QtzwLm317wwc8EjnGmUIMuxUntUqdkac74Pr 8taNqut6DVSELG2L4x148Q+DE9hklB1aTV0iBKLjmRKRhCfe4SG/+OcQoVTkvu4p 5nJgRFw1MiGS/OGBa9d5 =uxQ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] video recording of a gem window
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-01 23:44, David Schaffer wrote: Hi there, I'm trying to find a way to capture my gem window into a video file. I've been trying pix_record but it seems that it is not what I need. why? I red about pdp_rec but it is not present in my version of pd-extended (0.43.4 on osX 10.7.5) is it obsolete? [pdp_rec] will record PDP streams, rather than the Gem window. Any other object, library that I could use? [pix_record] or any decent (external) screen capture application. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS9H9AAoJELZQGcR/ejb4YwcP/irIMCL/pfnvnN+OBoWgiNwS OXspkRR6lDLA0ngVsu7eFYdSRKvIFhxdVcKAqShYQap0d3Mm1vi1BfuaLTVt4vGx s3S8a4tb7oqpQvvKwfn2i67Hw1U0wCKSpd1ezy9ZJ83mgDv7S6htBrFQXou8PpkN EiP+dOXHLRt2DjlKYBtSL6nUegishSMFd3s41l/EQEVtOOpjWAW5b/J1afJOG7Ds FjCTWHWtAnmb9+XSr3i+XfE8n4vUYEq1rM0h2hz/mMXbU6GpdMXYMPk2zi5jsqIO eiigj2ZvSMkijmK8x4hg+FZlposyHAP/BkuHvTQYQgoCDAVKLJxZ0Z5pEodShuvk jh7tq7dlO8d4pHYBa5K43uUINty8SE+gtktP12g5gPWDiEVPSyZyH5lUdGOrJl2o 1bIyG0YkA+x6jOXiZIxrs1gLTMCiuw3qK4nWX0upvHm2qFZUUviqNmOYdmTxGP2N cnNl3PGkA7F8a9dSKrnQnyQ6AHWAbYp+4fPFN89ZpYTYoKOjjQzWtLTmHFCXlzQg 3E7BDmJ2TP6jaJt8/OH9yeyIKZOWvyLY4Y90y+zf0cN6s4i2CJysIO4C5Ho44fLM UuZEsAOijlPfAuf7l7gk0Lipa2N+L4jhkYfHVZzzLN50z/lO4NXC93J7WFcIPRcM sTIM9aTW2nG6XFQxGrFU =rTIB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] udpsend not recognised
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-10-02 10:15, peiman khosravi wrote: But I have downloaded the external and added its location to the search path. sorry, this wasn't clear to me. try running Pd in verbose mode. - - open Pd - - somewhere in the properties (here it is in the Path... dialog), tick the verbose checkbox and click OK. - - proceed as usual to create your [udpsend] - - watch the output in the Pd-console: it should tell you where it looked for the external; probably it will show that it looked at the wrong places; or that it looked at the right place but that there is not compiled external; or that the compiled external it found has been compiled for an incompatible version of Pd. if you are having trouble with the verbose output, just post it to the list. fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSS+WPAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4Ds8P/3uEuBFAMSv7c3hUsnUhK3QA OYjzng3K3MgEPCoQnR9z+ruzN4gtiOtMwJ+XUGgQnqFhUviyRbYbD4Z4JPeqfO7P biYUE5BP06UTI9+qd1D4RG/T/xII3kkoOLjsRH4d6cklYdA+zUOUgR+kaogn7Mhz rjGDe2x2t5lh9NXYaDUeRPO1jQ7IX3SgHqDuV9iTS6wgQEAmtQPxA+qK2fmW8Qvg ViiMassTgI0PUGNOwhY21cRuQ07uBwpwmpuxDvqZ92o2Jk2vCsG3IcUtqfSrlGrh PLPizaQCWZcrd1qwYvtUo2B/ufknUOEJHmAQEfpTG6OpKNbyLOJ8oTDPHw17gk/F uz+g6xQnxbB9CbwYvZQU2iBwPWtAeQE34qEgWYxeDsrewHQyow6vQa6/FVkMyLmp jNhDE+w3SNU0ylQy50OPvlr7KpxsaPbvYzRJ7ehwbyCjVzjp0kZuuhMZKdI9gibJ 5Xb7DOhZuhPzPTTkXKhlKEOVumq+f+T0iJy23JTLvG9ugo1DGjY2GA3eph7XqRFO 8D4jhZALkS+vPG1YWZdoV+VMxyUP+iJqY4AI9xoI8efP1Ka2bbe0QRu7PeJzAQGu rdinBFPsggkWfBZxfWhHdMP1enNP82cPSWOFnOKxvuatPYWBYR8KOPH8E+hdK46O fJLR1Jqr9Wb37J8m3iCX =AS5N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] alsa and jack on ARM/Wandbaord
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-09-23 09:36, dreamer wrote: I have found that jack on ARM has some issues that are only fixed in current jack2, not jack1. So see if you can get jack2 running and report. i remember there was some problem with memory alignment (leading to segfaults) that had been fixed already in my version of jack2. or was there something else? fgmad IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlI/8X8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTjbQCeOmF6iPBxa8TYzKGhV9HbxHUz gJYAoPPvqGT+X45ZbR06OqHpsop2ui8O =In1G -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] openEXR in Gem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-09-23 14:41, Benjamin ~ 01xy wrote: it seems to work with the sample images provided here http://www.openexr.com/downloads.html on linux debian GEM: ver: 0.93.git 374f713 compiled: May 19 2013 with image loading support: magick SGI jpeg tiff Gem will happily load whatever format is supported by ImageMagick if you have the magick backend installed. however, Gem only handles 8bits per channel for any pix, so the additional resolution of the openEXR img will be lost. fgmasd IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSQDh+AAoJELZQGcR/ejb46lIP+gNcCMRzDJcafSfuPGiIGDIC 4ONqE0wLLxD6cBs0uAyJetH3DWqV/k2i3QzB1Gx9ItzpfYm/mcnsNDeVCFUKG2nr tncs9U8liYf0CBlIkXPnDNQD6/IjqDBGKp1a+1+2dlnfnYnOnGVP1EfQ/AQnPNNT u4w6ShgxfndOoMayQrkuZ1ZGMjvTEmhKmzKfzPYzl1rIJrQNhRAuTwwKzTTycKjI 7IfOyS40h3ZNlW8ZDR6i6obRIgH4BxXamaFYlZqwSyehHbwBDthhAZK7OhF2CLvN NvdVqXgSSRZ5VbB0dTWSXAAf6mjHEkg+LHJR3ruuMCF0gSHLXiK0bSRGTKKV4vL6 v8Z4t8tP+2aRjc6/zDC0Yh5b89JSrWSphi+sSEbPsiCwq6/7O1XEQ7jeG+Rmg9Bw Mmg/wStFgYlgR0XB+sVha4/s3teGTMJCS6mKMNlF4cmcuUwJmsEW5wOvGvfm++AW gRS80Cur1lk21FyDalsb8lMI0OW4czNkwgFIzoiVUusAW5NpiJ7iXtnFDLlNnGAw f1QDmPS+e9NYSl6CYyx51HNUoxgTmeFo2ZzFXgXboNq9WeHmDz+++FIKphD3fHXN L3PXpLM/HyaWqZ8fLkpbDpFnMvECKJIZqUjiHKYaZqzEl07afGp3xfXcZJahm2cS iObfNySfdMFJGKIxItyj =lcA2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [change] bug?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 2013-09-23 17:45, Mario Mey wrote: If i create [change] and send it a [0(, it outputs nothing. yes It seems like it has already the 0 value initiated. yes. I think [change] should not work like this... i disagree. [change] *always* takes an argument, which is the initial value. if you fail to provide one, it will default to '0'. changing this behaviour might break patches, hence it is a no-go. fgmadr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJSQGoDAAoJELZQGcR/ejb4iO0P/iW88ih1Dn1AyvvofwWD4TFn lkg0CUrtE2ae3SyDqiRjOONnlcQdnESM3O9pEcJE2jFxpP/dVCu44xwRSkFJOzb4 9U0XvTY82jZl51uSFS/rrl2VrP1ocyRc9j3oT/LM6c6ArFZr01cKXJNJLBCKWbCA z7oL57qNmxj1Zpy3VECiHWpm+JUxo0tV2hxD1ud+Sj57aQjeAW3u8+tncRicOnAE 9Dv0q9mp5wqIJ1gNmXINi2phpZhjti/R4PpRcjfQMn7gS0N1yBQwUv8P5OWRkQ2U Mch3FvRlfV3ci6izzC3nPAkgokIk1TLem5AcMF5W+Vjvw8RpoGbAOyZU32ONko2f mmX398MGgqk9uOfm0eCv+vMzifHhk1otRfHVqLc7OG3RQgHiUZ/LBCSWx4yGDDNG KokFv1jNtQoolRgSdlYuuTOLqeLWF9OEPIrXjBJwhIOpp8Ss4YfOg9KDyNw4b61j /Tn2+/W/RB/njaBtd8/I2rVH5bHfyQ/n1JPyF5QaJeHHaOmV3OCzCdBF9zXtoTBK G4iOVNph4Oc4aOl3RZw1gopnV5Tb5cTa5on/uexGyGhMMb4F6wlGSafj+q67yKuz c5f2OLBA4mmDchAsSuPFrqZYwZVRhDGOSFNJ5h8aissdCXbJN8ndccbj5aP0Xolq Frfu/8VEvgEmMZBUlmDB =11wf -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredata.info strange behaviour using Google.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-09-19 17:34, Mario Mey wrote: Everytime I visit puredata.info through google, every d and com in the page are highlighted in yellow. If I refresh (F5) the page, it is the same. But, if I click in address and press Enter, the highlight dissappear. I think it is something in POST... If I search pure data 0.44, then I click in the first link, d and 44 are highlighted. It is so strange... now, I tried again, the same link and only com are highlighted. Try this link: http://www.google.com.ar/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=1cad=rjaved=0CCwQFjAAurl=http%3A%2F%2Fpuredata.info%2Fdocs%2Fmanuals%2Fpd%2Fx2.htmei=Qxc7UtbIEIK3iwK1k4C4DQusg=AFQjCNG-AyYLgOX6CkJARANJvkgxHzSsdwsig2=U9wSrxsBPqsW108sJu3KIA It's about google? puredata.info? purdata.info highlights search terms. e.g. http://puredata.info/Members/ktsoukalas/pd-volos/?searchterm=meeting will have meeting highlighted. i guess that google-redirects somehow contain hidden search terms. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlI7Hb8ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRUMACgwkcNdzYiG94ZYaqNF4gS2Tl1 agQAnRbmFOLGkIVWFumJ8hQ/QwsV1V96 =5WQE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] TouchOSC makes Pd crash, on UbuntuStudio, not in Ubuntu
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-09-16 23:10, Matthias Kronlachner wrote: It's a message without argument: /1 I think this should be valid OSC? (Wasn't this the same problem reported with Totalmix?) However, the messages /1 crashes routeOSC if chained like this: [/1 ( | [routeOSC /1] | [routeOSC /foo] confirmed with the latest SVN checkout, but *not* with the version found in the pd-osc Debian package. the Debian package is build from the 0.1 pseudo-release of OSC as found at [1], which has been put online 2011-08-04, so before the revisions r15633 (fixing bug #3426523), r16071 (list support) and r16072 (removing debug output). And even if not specified in OSC, it should at least not crash Pd :-) i wholeheartedly agree. fgamsdr IOhannes [1] http://puredata.info/downloads/osc -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlI4A40ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRkogCgyvpMZ8olwHw2dqF0VMTDnjyD 3vYAoKAhylAcKAIMYDgD/7on7ikm35BG =vkzb -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [text]-object and source-code files
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i'd like to embed source-code (C-like GLSL-shaders) into Pd-patches,
and thought that the new [text] family of objects might be able to do
that.
my first source-file looks like:
snap
int main(void) {
return 0;
}
/snap
i read it with [read -c snap.c(
when check the contents of [text define -k foo], it looks like:
snap:1
int main (void);
{;
}
pdtk_textwindow_append .x83210e8 {return 0;
}
pdtk_textwindow_append .x83210e8 {;
}
pdtk_textwindow_append .x83210e8 {};
/snap:1
reading it without the -c flag [read snap.c(, i get:
snap:2
int main (void) { return 0;
}
pdtk_textwindow_append .x83210e8 {}
/snap:2
now checking the .pd file itself is better, the content is basically:
#A set int main (void) { return 0 \; };
now a more realistic example would be something like:
interpol
// Cyrille Henry 2008
#extension GL_ARB_texture_rectangle : enable
uniform sampler2DRect texture_mass;
uniform float init;
void main (void)
{
vec2 coord = gl_TexCoord[0].st/2.;
vec4 pos = texture2DRect(texture_mass, coord);
gl_FragColor = pos;
}
/interpol
as you can see, some lines are terminated with semicolons, others are not.
unfortunately, Pd swallows all semicolons, the exact nature of the
eating depending on the presense of the -c flag.
what's worse, it's utterly impossible to restore the original file.
loading without -c i get:
write
// Cyrille Henry 2008 #extension GL_ARB_texture_rectangle : enable
uniform sampler2DRect texture_mass;
uniform float init;
void main (void) { vec2 coord = gl_TexCoord[0].st/2.;
vec4 pos = texture2DRect(texture_mass, coord);
gl_FragColor = pos;
}
/write
AND
write -c
// Cyrille Henry 2008 #extension GL_ARB_texture_rectangle : enable
uniform sampler2DRect texture_mass
uniform float init
void main (void) { vec2 coord = gl_TexCoord[0].st/2.
vec4 pos = texture2DRect(texture_mass, coord)
gl_FragColor = pos
}
/write -c
loading with the -c flag i get:
write
// Cyrille Henry 2008;
#extension GL_ARB_texture_rectangle : enable;
;
uniform sampler2DRect texture_mass;
;
uniform float init;
;
;
void main (void);
{;
vec2 coord = gl_TexCoord[0].st/2.;
;
vec4 pos = texture2DRect(texture_mass, coord);
;
;
gl_FragColor = pos;
;
};
/write
AND
write -c
// Cyrille Henry 2008
#extension GL_ARB_texture_rectangle : enable
uniform sampler2DRect texture_mass
uniform float init
void main (void)
{
vec2 coord = gl_TexCoord[0].st/2.
vec4 pos = texture2DRect(texture_mass, coord)
gl_FragColor = pos
}
/write -c
should it be possible to read/store/write source-code like text with
[text], in a way that preserves semicolons, (and colons) and
line-breaks (and empty lines)?
i'm wondering whether these are bugs or design limitations of [text].
ghmsd
IOhannes
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Re: [PD] age old multichannel sound card question...
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-09-12 08:36, Marian Weger wrote: The new firefaces (ufx, ucx) seem to be running perfectly well via usb2 under linux, with class compliant mode, without drivers. not really true, since class compliant mode does require a driver as well...only all modern OSs already ship one, so the manfacturers claim that it is driver free (while it is really only driver installation free). But i have not tested it personally. i tested the UCX in class-compliant mode and i only managed to get 8 channels in and 8 channels out (while it really should have 18 ins and 18 outs). afair, those were the analog IOs. and virtually no controls (like pre-amps and the like) but definitely promising fgmnasr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIxcpsACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRYGgCdGfDhxE3fTuUSDF4DCws4yT0n qSsAoMQO9t88Cz3Gqfpy23JNETISdKBp =GDG5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM on raspberry pi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-09-09 12:20, Richie Cyngler wrote: Thanks dreamer, I'll see if I can get that to work. Git confuses the hell out of me but the install instructions look pretty clear. Have you tried this? If so does GEM just work once glshim is installed? i guess nobody ever tried... anyhow, the INSTALLATION instructions of the glshim library explains how to trick Gem into using glshim: you have to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable, in order to make Gem find the new functions. you probably SHOULD NOT make this a system-wide (or even user-wide) default, but instead only do this for when trying to start Pd/Gem (or another application that needs GL1-on-GLES) LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/glshim/src/ pd -lib Gem (you could also create a wrapper script that does this for you). anyhow, Gem will also need GLU. and there is the little problem that Gem will (by default) create a window using GLX (on non-w32 and non-osx), which i think is not available on android either. luckily the git version of Gem has alternative windowing code (still highly experimental), e.g. using SDL or GLFW, which might work. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlItstsACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTotACgi6MOFs8qubvWqM+pioxQ4vz/ J5IAn0QuI+T9HdViuKPNFt0GNsL+j9dq =WEqO -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM on raspberry pi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-09-09 16:02, Ali Momeni wrote: i'm very keen to try GEM/openGL on a Udoo board (http://udoo.org) which DOES support OpenGL. are you sure? the website [1] only speaks of OpenGL-ES2.0 fgmd IOhanne [1] http://www.udoo.org/features/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIt1qsACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSgZgCfSpPoJFNQj61uH5M+e1RGqFMw 4GEAnj8tsIKullXVr2VwLV27+LTLL/Iz =GZ2P -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GEM on raspberry pi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-09-09 17:00, Ali Momeni wrote: Is IOhannes m zmölnig still working on GEM? some hours ago, an email was posted in this thread that said: On 2013-09-09 13:37, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: luckily the git version of Gem has alternative windowing code (still highly experimental), e.g. using SDL or GLFW, which might work. from this i'd conclude: - - there exists a development version of Gem (using git) - - there are highly experimental features in this branch from this i'd conclude that Gem is still alive. and since the author of that email also used to be the maintainer of Gem, he's probably *still* involved. so yes, he is. (he also has a day job) fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIt5W4ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSB3ACfVZ29W76rY5GPuMRRWStPFC0f mGsAn2HdHapQ6ZnIeoiTIZreDH7kzftG =depF -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Sinesum, cosinesum and cubic interpolation's guard points
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-09-05 09:45, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: OK, index 0 is the negative of index 2, no not really, they just happen to be the same. which can again make sense as it's a sine (supposing that index 0 is a copy of the table's last element), but index 512 doesn't have that value, why? And why do indices 1 and 513 have different values too? do they? when it comes to floating point, equality becomes a little bit fuzzy. e.g. 0.1 is really the 'same' as 0.10001490116119384765625 [1]. comparing the values, you can see that they are not *very* wrong: array[512]-array[0] = -5.30668e-6 = -0.053 array[513]-array[1] = -5.30718e-6 = -0.053 array[514]-array[2] = -5.30668e-6 = -0.053 so the errors are really rather small, and hopefully don't matter so much in the interpolation (which is another approximation anyhow). the reason why the error is not smaller, is that Pd internally (src/g_array.c:896) deals with a PI value of 3.14159, which is a rather rough estimate and is the reason why the cycle is not exactly 512 points long. fgamsdr IOhannes [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_point#Representable_numbers.2C_conversion_and_rounding -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIoY3UACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTY1wCcDCyH8kY50snbVOv5AxwspIAB jwQAoLJOrVoESvzyqrZyvWKky0ec1eUT =YqkS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Professorship of computer music composition and sound design
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, please note the job opening for a full professorship of computer music composition and sound design at the University of Music and Performing Arts Graz. The new professor will be able to make full use of the unique artistic environment and technical facilities of the university, including the Institute of Composition, Theory of Music, History of Music, and Conducting, the Institute of Electronic Music and Acoustics (IEM) and the György Ligeti Hall at the MUMUTH, a state-of-the-art performance venue. For details please see the attached call (in German). The application deadline is October 25th 2013. cheers, mfgad IOhannes - --- 8 --- An der Universität für Musik und darstellende Kunst Graz, Institut für Komposition, Musiktheorie, Musikgeschichte und Dirigieren, gelangt ab dem Wintersemester 2014/15 eine Universitätsprofessur für Komposition-Computermusik und Sound Design gemäß § 99 des Universitätsgesetzes 2002 und § 25 des Kollektivvertrages für die Arbeitnehmer/innen der Universitäten in Form eines vollbeschäftigten vertraglichen Dienstverhältnisses befristet auf fünf Jahre zur Besetzung. Eine Überzahlung des kollektivvertraglichen monatlichen Mindestentgelts von derzeit 4.601,20 € brutto (14 x jährlich) kann vereinbart werden. I. Grundsätzliche Anstellungserfordernisse: - - eine der Verwendung entsprechende abgeschlossene inländische oder gleichwertige ausländische Hochschulausbildung, bzw. eine gleich zu wertende künstlerische Eignung - - höchste künstlerische Qualifikation für das zu besetzende Fach - - eine international herausragende künstlerische Laufbahn - - eine hervorragende pädagogische und didaktische Befähigung - - die Bereitschaft zur aktiven Teilnahme an der Weiterentwicklung der Lehrkultur und am künstlerischen und wissenschaftlichen Leben der Universität sowie zur Mitgestaltung der Kunstuniversität Graz in der akademischen Selbstverwaltung - - Genderkompetenz II. Spezifische Anstellungserfordernisse: Gesucht wird eine Persönlichkeit, die das Fach Computermusik in den Bereichen Komposition und Performance mit überragender Kompetenz und internationaler Ausstrahlung zu vertreten vermag. Der Aufgabenbereich umfasst die Betreuung der Studierenden in den Bachelor- und Masterprogrammen Komposition-Computermusik und Sound Design sowie die Betreuung von Studierenden im künstlerischen Doktoratsprogramm. Da die musikalische Praxis der Computermusik häufig im intermedialen Bereich angesiedelt ist, werden auch einschlägige Erfahrungen mit der Verbindung zu anderen Medien vorausgesetzt. Erwartet wird weiters praktisches und organisatorisches Engagement bei der Weiterentwicklung des Bereichs Computermusik an der Universität sowie die Mitarbeit in der akademischen Selbstverwaltung. Von der Bewerberin/von dem Bewerber werden neben einem abgeschlossenen fachspezifischen Hochschulstudium pädagogische Eignung, hervorragende Befähigung zu künstlerischer Arbeit sowie einschlägige Erfahrung in der Lehre erwartet. Zusätzlich ist eine Qualifikation im Bereich der künstlerischen Forschung erwünscht, z.B. durch eine künstlerische Promotion oder Erfahrung mit der Leitung von künstlerischen Forschungsprojekten. InteressentInnen mit entsprechender Qualifikation werden eingeladen, ihre schriftliche Bewerbung mit den üblichen Unterlagen bis spätestens 25. Oktober 2013 unter der GZ 58/13 an das Rektorat der Universität für Musik und darstellende Kunst Graz, 8010 Graz, Leonhardstraße 15, zu richten. Die Universität strebt eine Erhöhung des Frauenanteils beim künstlerischen Personal an und fordert deshalb qualifizierte Frauen ausdrücklich zur Bewerbung auf. Frauen werden bei gleicher Qualifikation vorrangig aufgenommen. Die Bewerber/innen haben keinen Anspruch auf Abgeltung der Reise- und Aufenthaltskosten, die durch das Aufnahmeverfahren entstanden sind. Im Sinne des sozialen Nachhaltigkeitskonzepts der KUG, das besondere Bedürfnisse in all ihren Aspekten interpretiert, werden Menschen mit solchen Bedürfnissen bei gleicher Qualifikation bevorzugt angestellt. Der Geschäftsführende Vizerektor: Robert Höldrich - --- 8 --- as appeared in Mitteilungsblatt 26: http://www.kug.ac.at/nc/news-veranstaltungen/news/mitteilungsblatt.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIkPMIACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvT/5wCg9ADPSgG0L7NEECe3Kc536DQ4 GjsAn0SPWpcJaKM/yWJbqwwB0LQ1RtkT =uMKo -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] repeating data in array or looping the data when reading?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-09-02 03:11, Ronni Montoya wrote: Hey Jack, if i have a table with 20 index and i iterate 20 times and then i use [mod 20] i dont see how this is gonna work as you explained. If i iterate 20 times and i use [mod 10] then it that way it is gonna repeat 2 times. If i iterate 20 times and i use [mod 5] then its gonna gonna 4 times. so as you see, i can use [mod ] when the repeating value is less than the number of iterated geos. But not in my case. using a [mod 20] will allow you to read 40 values from a 20-elements table (by repeating them once). what you call number of iterated geos is 40, and what you call repeating value is 20, so the aboce is valid in your case. the only information you have given about your problem is that the last 20 color-values are black. nobody can possibly know what is going wrong without information on how you generate these values. one assumption (and i think a good one, but you never know without seeing the patch) is that you have a table of 20 elements, and you are trying to read 40 elements. obviously the last 20 elements are undefined (in theory, in practice Pd will make things a bit failsafe: if the index you are trying to access exceeds the table-size, [tabread] will return the last defined value. but then i think you are doing it slightly differently: your table is bigger than 20 elements, but you have only assigned values for the first 20 indices; this leaves all the rest to what it used to be, most likely 0 (which results in black)). gfgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIkP/UACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRY8ACfeDlJHNV081VzkxpaUAcqvluJ OmEAoOsIqP7mPwiDTNyHrutRwY51QJ1l =r5+G -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] puredata extended future request
Quoting Olivier Baudry olivierbaudry@hotmail.fr: Puredata-extended version 0.44 Some objects like : thispatcher, iemguts jit.cellblock, Gem, gridflow (i'm not sure whether the latter is included in PdX) matrixcontrol~, see joao's original reply textedit, that's Pd-0.45(vanilla) for you and possibility to read javascript inside javascript? we prefer lua and python are Welcome just submit your implementations to the patchtracker [1]. eventually they will be included in the next release. fgmasdr IOhannes [1] http://sf.net/p/pure-data/patches/ ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] routeOSC - dynamic routing?
Quoting Dan Wilcox danomat...@gmail.com: As far as I know, you can't match multiple levels at once, you'd need to do: [routeOSC /*] | [routeOSC /ID] yep. iirc, the OSC-specification only talks about pattern-matching on a per-path element. with that in mind and since OSC is really very herarchically thought, the above solution is not that bad. fgamrd\ IOhannes ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] routeOSC - dynamic routing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-08-07 15:12, Colet Patrice wrote: Le 07/08/2013 08:15, pured...@11h11.com a écrit : hi all, i have more than 50 OSC messages to [routeOSC], i would like to avoid having to cut and paste click and drag. what are my options here? [routeOSC /knob1 /knob2 ...] | | [s $0-knob1] [s $0-knob2] thanks someting like this, and no need for routeOSC [dumpOSC]-[set $1 $2, bang(--[ ( [dumpOSC]? is this zombi still around? [r /knob1] this is basically the same as roman's solution, but imho both miss some points: - - by switching from [routeOSC] to you lose pattern matching. the OSC-message `/knob* 0` should set *all* knobs - - you are giving up localization. where's the $0 gone to? - - you assume a fixed format of the knob message, namely that it has exactly one argument. something like this should be better: [routOSC /knobs] | [t a a] | | | [symbol] | | | [pack s $0] | | | [symbol $2-$1( | | [list split 1] | || [send] which still doesn't give you pattern matching. i once did a send-based solution with pattern matching which was quite complicated. it would include a address-registration, where each [receive] would register it's name, e.g. /foo/knob1/value, using a wrapper abstraction around [r]. all these labels were filled into a central pattern-matching object (zexy's [matchbox] was made for this). the output of [unpackOSC] would be split into the address and the arguments, the address gets expanded by [matchbox] to all possible targets and the data is sent to those targets using a dynamic send. [routeOSC] should be faster though, as it can operate on a more local level. (thus having to compare against less possibilities). mfgasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIDZjAACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQSvACdEqlHGVTxK8yFAhT7GyeOEac0 ZC0AoOsXXaSqu3/DqB5zioQqmLwNBwMA =O3d2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] routeOSC - dynamic routing?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-08-07 08:15, pured...@11h11.com wrote: hi all, i have more than 50 OSC messages to [routeOSC], i would like to avoid btw, you might want to hierarchic structure of your OSC messages, rather than having 50 flat labels in [routeOSC]. when doing so, you might even get rid of all those unique send/receive labels, which can pollute the symbol-cache (cf. miller's mail on How to reduce CPU use on unused subpatches-abstracts?). fgamd IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlIDZwUACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSekgCgodxj86+32zruIOayGdqOeSZn iDUAn0YN8AVZ94nWG0CsEFu9M7wLN1KE =gxcT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] tabread4 interpolation
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-22 11:47, J Oliver wrote: Hi all, Where can I find the code for tabread4? Does someone have any lights on how this interpolation is implemented? $ cd src/git/pure-data/src/ $ grep -l tabread4 *.c d_array.c $ vi d_array.c then - - search for tabread4_setup - - note that numbers are processed using the `tabread4_float` method - - search for tabread4_float definition - - study the algorithm fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHtBB4ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSkEQCcCogZniqwJ6+51ak8yUN3HZzW qn0An3UEvNYlxBONMyBES3nwlHkbn0YI =86R3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] PDP test release
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On 2013-07-21 23:02, Tom Schouten wrote:
- the v4l2 code bails out because of undefined
V4L2_CID_HCENTER/V4L2_CID_VCENTER
attached are two patches that seem to fix these two problems.
thanks for the patches!
it seems they have not made it into DARCS yet :-(
btw, i also found a small note [1] on removing the unused
V4L2_CID_VCENTER/V4L2_CID_HCENTER controls from videodev2.h in 2012.
anyhow.
attached is yet another patch, that adds --with-pd= flags to
configure.ac, so you can specify the header-search path rather than
having to guess (thw wrong one).
fgamsdr
IOhannes
[1] http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.commits.head/315755
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From 02fa9186a5e84fb7c1cf2a4ebdc29fcafb27e9b2 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: =?UTF-8?q?IOhannes=20m=20zm=C3=B6lnig?= zmoel...@iem.at
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:03:25 +0200
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] adding --with-pd flag
to allow specifiying where the Pd-headers *really* are
(without having to guess)
---
configure.ac | 61 +---
1 file changed, 42 insertions(+), 19 deletions(-)
diff --git a/configure.ac b/configure.ac
index 8434aff..02492ec 100644
--- a/configure.ac
+++ b/configure.ac
@@ -48,6 +48,11 @@ AC_ARG_ENABLE(png,
AC_ARG_ENABLE(debug,
[ --enable-debug enable debugging support (no)], , enable_debug=no)
+AC_ARG_WITH([pd],
+ [ --with-pd=/path/to/pd where to look for pd-headers and and -libs])
+
+
+
# long double? -Wno-long-double
PDP_CFLAGS=-DPD -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -fPIC
@@ -84,28 +89,46 @@ dnl try to locate the pd header in case the setup is nonstandard
dnl check in $prefix/pd/src then ../pd/src
dnl if this fails we trust it is in the standard include path
PWD=`pwd`
-if test -f $prefix/pd/src/m_pd.h;
-then
- PD_CPPFLAGS=-I$prefix/pd/src
-elif test -f $prefix/src/pd/src/m_pd.h;
-then
- PD_CPPFLAGS=-I$prefix/src/pd/src
-elif test -f $PWD/../pd/src/m_pd.h;
-then
- PD_CPPFLAGS=-I$PWD/../pd/src
-elif test -f $PWD/../src/m_pd.h;
-then
- PD_CPPFLAGS=-I$PWD/../src
-elif test -f /usr/local/include/pd/m_pd.h;
-then
- PD_CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/pd
-elif test -f /usr/include/pd/m_pd.h;
-then
- PD_CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include/pd
+if test x$with_pd != x; then
+ if test -d ${with_pd}; then
+ PDPATH=${with_pd}
+ fi
+ if test -d ${PDPATH}/src; then
+ AC_MSG_RESULT([adding ${PDPATH}/src to INCLUDES])
+ PD_CPPFLAGS=-I${PDPATH}/src
+
+ AC_MSG_RESULT([adding ${PDPATH}/src to LDFLAGS])
+ LDFLAGS=-L${PDPATH}/src ${LDFLAGS}
+ else
+ if test -d ${PDPATH}; then
+ AC_MSG_RESULT([adding ${PDPATH} to INCLUDES])
+ PD_CPPFLAGS=-I${PDPATH}
+ fi
+ fi
+else
+dnl try some defaults
+ if test -f $prefix/pd/src/m_pd.h;
+ then
+ PD_CPPFLAGS=-I$prefix/pd/src
+ elif test -f $prefix/src/pd/src/m_pd.h;
+ then
+ PD_CPPFLAGS=-I$prefix/src/pd/src
+ elif test -f $PWD/../pd/src/m_pd.h;
+ then
+ PD_CPPFLAGS=-I$PWD/../pd/src
+ elif test -f $PWD/../src/m_pd.h;
+ then
+ PD_CPPFLAGS=-I$PWD/../src
+ elif test -f /usr/local/include/pd/m_pd.h;
+ then
+ PD_CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include/pd
+ elif test -f /usr/include/pd/m_pd.h;
+ then
+ PD_CPPFLAGS=-I/usr/include/pd
+ fi
fi
-
CPPFLAGS=$CPPFLAGS $PD_CPPFLAGS
AC_CHECK_HEADER(m_pd.h,,
echo WARNING: m_pd.h not found. Is PD installed?
--
1.8.3.2
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Re: [PD] playing long audio files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-22 12:47, Фывапр Олджэвич wrote: So there's no way for playing long stereo audio files in PD-Vanilla with reloading them ? sure, multiple ways. - - plying directly from file, using [readsf~] - - loading soundfiles into extra-large arrays using [readsf~] - - using the -resize flag to [soundfiler] i still don't understand what you problem is with this approach. there's really not much point in making overly long arrays shorter. if you want to make sure you could simply set all the samples to 0 before loading (using [const 0() fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHtE/wACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS99wCePmmquQe3gTRqjiM30JgS/hAh 98AAoMFLHHCJT5Xi2kCCx8wliuQr2jkg =ncKE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Dust equivalent to Pd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-18 22:42, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I meant like an external, but just curious, cause it could be cool to have why do you want an external? fgmasr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHo7D0ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQNoACgu8dnEARAcwnWcaM2JMOhPN5g lncAn1qZiNKvlg2kd46zJGmDoXShkpxc =/5Zc -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] playing long audio files
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-19 03:49, Фывапр Олджэвич wrote: Dear List ! I made this patch to play long stereo audio file. You can load audiofile and play, but before - reset the sizes of tables. BUT, it plays only one stereo file in my Vanilla. So when i played one file and try to load another: i push the RESET-bang .. and PD crushes totally.. well, i don't think it's Pd that's crashing - but rather the operating system that kills it. why? at the beginning you create 2 tables and resize them to 1 (what is this for?) and then to 15876 samples. given that Pd uses 4 bytes to save each sample (8 bytes on 64bit), this means that one table takes approximately 635MB (32bit) resp 1.27GB (64bit). so this gives you (for both tables) 1.27GB (32bit) resp 2.5GB (64bit) memory consumption. now when loading the table, you resize it, which potentially means allocating a new table which is bigger than the previous one, copying the data from the old table to the new one and then freeing the old table. so at some point you have doubled the amount of memory needed by your patch. how much RAM do you have? is your system/OS capable of addressing more than 4GB of memory? (e.g. PAE) is your system/OS capable of addressing more than 4GB of memory within a single application? (64bit) apart from that you patch is slightly buggy anyhow. imaging the following scenario: - - init tables with 1h of samples - - load a soundfile that is 3 seconds long (the sample gets loaded and the table gets resized to 3 seconds) - - load a soundfile that is 10 minutes long: the sample gets loaded into the 3 seconds table and is truncated. after that, the table is resized to 10 minutes - giving you 3 seconds of your soundfile and 9:57 of silence. did you know that [soundfiler] has a -resize switch that automatically resizes the table to your needs? btw, you might even want to resize your table to something small (1) before loading the sample. adgmsr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHo8LEACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTCJQCeJ5LygzizivKw41LEzg0MSuBi ozEAn0QvwPIZhI9e5BROlq6Xj/RP0Id/ =Fn0N -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Dust equivalent to Pd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-18 09:03, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: So I needed some sort of random [metro] | ++ [metro]| | | [t b b]| | || [random 500] | || [+ 750] | || ++ mfgasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHnmjoACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTAsQCfXjthLq6ZPAMvZZqZXLmKSJGJ B0cAoI/ZrUwUQ6PNvzEd/fUtaYpg2U9z =3fZe -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iemmatrix - rotate matrix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-09 03:14, João Pais wrote: Hello, I'm programming a gui for [mtx_mul~], and it's almost finished. One the one and only proper way to do signal matrix multiplication with iemmatrix is to use [mtx_*~] (rather than [mtx_mul~], [mtx_mul_line~] or [matrix~]). thing is missing, and I wanted to know if someone already has a solution for it, before I break my head trying to find one. I need to find a way to rotate matrixes, in order to coordenate the controler display, and matrix's format. Following the logic of max's matrixctrl object, and an usual DAW's display of audio matrixes, the lines are the inputs, and the columns are the outputs. But, Pd's [matrix] practise is the opposite. the original matrix-multiplication object had this notation, but it was deprecated because you will find virtually no literature that does it like this. [mtx_*~] follows the notation you will find in pretty much any scientific publication, that deals with matrix multiplication of signals: y = A * x with x = input signals, A = matrix, y = output signals. if you want to matrix 4 inputs into 2 outputs, your matrix must look like: [2,N] = [2,4] * [4,N] out = A * in see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_multiplication (for the sake of simplicity N would be one, though in practice it's the blocksize=64; anyhow, we can pretty much ignore it). as you can see, this is a matrix with 2 lines and 4 columns. (the original matrix multiplication object had reversed the multiplication (y = x * A) which nicely gave you A=[4,2], but was so uncommon a notation, that i found all of my collegues constantly looking up the help-patches when their code would not work - esp. when using square matrices) whether this matches the DAW experience or not, is something else. in order to transform an [m,n] matrix into an [n,m] matrix, you can simply apply a transpose operation. see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transpose be careful with your wording in matrix world: pretty much everything is standardized and traditional (like the proper way to multiply a bunch of signals by a matrix - the reason why [mtx_*~] behaves as it does). matrix rotation usually means something along the lines of mulitplying a coordinate set with a special matrix in order to achieve a spatial rotation of the coordinates: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_rotation fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHbwLkACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvQ5QwCfTTm9+VK0KEMm32QQIowCaecq DPUAn07SmN3Ib2ZcGlW5tLoQSRE4CvMm =3MSv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] iemmatrix - rotate matrix
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-09 11:42, João Pais wrote: I thought they were. In Pc there is no [mtx_*~] file, so I use what is Pc? whatever it is, if it has something labeled iemmatrix and lacks [mtx_*~], you might want to throw it away. fgamnsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHb4O0ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvT6BACfRxTVIJWpDWPSHwVqMUCaFJyQ aX0AnRpghcarPdDGHKpCxH8rrEqDCcUp =JTPv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] GOP text field / symbol which is resizeable? (was: GOP text field which sends bang?)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-02 12:54, András Murányi wrote: - I don't know how to set the label of [cnv]... is it possible at all? yes, it's easy. since [cnv] doesn't have an inlet, you have to use the receive-label. just check the help-patch for [cnv] - there's a [pd edit] that explains all this stuff. fgamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHSwlMACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTHXgCg437h6lN1opMPE5jOXCMLy3Fl 0FYAn2rB02hqmCKVrbYoHZ1r/fejYvWZ =WHr9 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended crashes sending data to SSR with tcpclient
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-02 17:07, Matthias Geier wrote: keep the limit at 10 messages/sec for each. It stops working at higher rates but doesn't crash. SSR is running on this local machine and there is no WiFi involved. Unfortunately I don't think UDP is an option with SSR. No sorry, not for now. But feel free to hack into the SSR code! btw, i don't think that XML is a very good format for controlling an application real-time. how about adding OSC support to SSR? fgmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHS7ksACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTNEQCgxxv94QD3mUE8qeTIduRxQJbK 4p8AmwQpFJYObmol1ACTUMn0/Ozen5wN =QSvA -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended crashes sending data to SSR with tcpclient
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-29 20:19, Iain Mott wrote: Hi list, Pd-extended (Pd-0.43.1 extended-20120430 compiled 00:31:34 Apr 30 2012) is crashing when I send data to the SoundScape Renderer on Ubuntu 12.04 using tcpclient. hmm, since Pd and SSR are only communicating via a network socket, i only have 2 possible explanations: - - either the network code is broken - - or SSR sends data in a format that exposes/triggers a bug (e.g. a memory leak) in Pd since there are several network implementations, which one are you using? mrpeach? iemnet?? do SSR and Pd agree on the actual protocol? e.g. OSC over TCP/IP (if it is that) used to be badly defined in the olde days, and you still see the deprecated non-SLIP implementation. afaik liblo only recently changed their TCP/IP code to use SLIP. could you get a backtrace of the crash? [1] do you notice anything weird? like when running htop besides Pd, do you see an excess of memory usage? try running Pd with -verbose -verbose -stderr; sometimes their is a printout when Pd is crashing, which get's lost once the Pd-GUI closes (that is: quite immediately) fgamsdr IOhannes [1] http://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHRLlQACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvT/ogCgrciJSnp5LcHZFr14yxISiLIq fkUAoJl4cIchubi2Ua1GaLF9S6qpH+LB =cc4X -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-extended crashes sending data to SSR with tcpclient
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-07-01 16:40, Iain Mott wrote: Thanks very much IOhannes! The mrpeach version was being loaded by default. When I use iemnet/tcpclient it doesn't crash. That's great. it is, though i'm sometimes under the impression that mrpeach is a bit more stable than iemnet (rather than the other way around) There's a difference however in the way mrpeach/tcpclient and iemnet/tcpclient sends received data to its output. Messages from SSR received by mrpeach/tcpclient are sent to its output as a list (if that's the right word), for example as: [...] This is easily converted to a readable XML string with string2any 0 0 to get: updatesource id='1' level='-98.8531'/source id='2' level='-100.177'/source id='3' level='-100.556'/source id='4' level='-98.3239'//update iemnet/tcpclient on the other hand sends individual numbers to its output as a stream rather than a list. [...] ... etc. And there are various messages of various lengths. I guess if I use iemnet/tcpclient I'll need to find a different way of parsing these numbers Not my strong point with Pd! well the point is, that TCP/IP as an underlying protocol doesn't know anything about packets - it is stream-based, like a serial connection. if you are relying on the packets coming out of the [tcpclient] object as strings of the correct length, then your code is broken. you *must* have a way to determine the end of an atomic junk of data without relying on the list length. [iemnet/tcpclient] makes this obvious from the beginning, as it will never lure you into security of correct length lists (though there is a hidden flag that gives you the same behaviour as [mrpeach/tcpclient]). outputting the bytes one-by-one should actually make it easier to re-packetize the data. e.g. your example string looks like '0' was a delimiting character (at least it appears at the end of the [mrpeach/tcpclient] example output). if this is indeed the case, you only have to [list append] the incoming bytes until you encounter 0, and then flush the buffer to the output - this way your packages will always be of the correct length. I'll try the backtrace and other things you suggest and report back on mrpeach/tcpclient in another email. it could well be, that it only does not crash with [iemnet/tcpclient] because you haven't parsed the output yet... fgmads IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHRn7IACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSoSgCeO4rVMd8osut8fFoFaIAUNK0U aGAAoPAzjQXENf4nNq5SEtep4ssw+820 =rsof -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Where is vanilla's makefile and other stuff located?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-27 10:05, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: i guess it is time to ask what you mean by this. i get a nice icon when selecting Applications-Multimedia-Pure Data Well, I meant when I'm running two applications (say Firefox and Pd) and I change between them, I Alt + Tab (I was mistaken, not Ctl + Tab), and to see which app you're switching to, you get the app's logo. Pd doesn't show a logo there...although it does have a logo on the Launcher...thought that there might be something missing there. yes, it's missing. you might want to do a bug-report for that. vgamdrt IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHL84EACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvTO+ACdHliMzkTA+Zo2rUOfAC8xY/QD OUUAmwUItA8OqfPHQeDYrJwxIrWTSXQq =RWev -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Where is vanilla's makefile and other stuff located?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-26 09:56, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: I realised what happened. I've downloaded Pd from Ubuntu software center and it installed everything where it's supposed to go. What now confuses me a bit is that in the software center you can find the following: puredata, puredata-core and puredata-gui. If you go for puredata-core it advices you to also download puredata-gui. If you go for gui, it advices you to download puredata-core, or even puredata... yes. the debian packages are split into multiple packages, so you only have to install what you need) - - puredata-core is the DSP-engine only (no gui) - - puredata-gui is the GUI only (not DSP,messages,...) - - puredata is a meta-package that depends on both (and more, like puredata-utils (providing the pdsend utility) and puredata-dev needed, if you want to compile your externals) most users will simply want to install puredata and get everything. those that do not want *everything* but most everything, will go and install puredata-core and puredata-gui. those that do not need no gui, might be happy with just puredata-core. Well, I've downloaded puredata and it's working (although it crashes if I try to open the 'Test audio and midi' patch), it should never crash (as in: close the application) and it's located at /usr/bin/ yes, since puredata is managed by the package manager, it should go into /usr and the rest are located at /usr/lib/puredata (btw, it's version 0..43.0-4, yep. this is in order to allow pd-vanilla, pd-extended and pd-l2ork coexist on the same installation. not the current...), but still no icon, still this warning at the Pd i guess it is time to ask what you mean by this. i get a nice icon when selecting Applications-Multimedia-Pure Data window: WARNING: Font family 'Courier' not found, using default (DejaVu Sans Mono) yes. is his a problem? and still no makefile (I guess the software center took care of it). not really (but kind of). debian (and derivatives like ubuntu) provide packages in binary (precompiled on some vast build farms) form. these binary packages (usually) do not come with source code and build system. the distro guarantees, that you can get the source code is needed (but that you need not bother with it if you don't). other distributions like gentoo or arch will ship packages directly as sourcecode and the packagemanger will compile/install them locally. and your software center is simply an eye candy front-end to the systems package manager. Well, I'm sticking to the makefile cause I'm going through Lyon's 'Designing audio objects for max and pd' and he's making use of Pd's makefile when compiling an object...so I guess I'll need it, right? well, yes, but mostly no. first of all: you will need *some* makefile (or other build system) to build your external. you do **not** need the makefile needed to build Pd - after all, you want to build an external and not Pd itself, no? Pd comes with a wee bit of documentation on how to build externals (including a...Makefile, named 'makefile'). on debian, this doc is included in the puredata-doc package (aptly named, as it holds the documentation for Pd) and you can find it in /usr/share/puredata/doc/6.externs/ (copy the entire directory into your home, in order to work on it) but then, the Makefile you will find there is not very nice. there is a *very* nice Makefile for building externals available at [1]. it is in daily use for building many external libraries out there (unlike the documentation makefile that comes with pd, which basically hasn't been touched for 10 years or more) IOhannes, at puredata.info I can only find vanilla 0.44.0 (for Linux, there's a version for RPi, is it good for a laptop as well?). if your laptop has an ARM processor, it probably is. since the former is unlikely, you will have to get Pure Data for All platforms, which contains the source. Where can I find the 0.44.3 package? apart from that: miller is putting his releases on his personal webpage [2], and puredata.info is synched whenever someone finds the time to do it. fgmasdr IOhannes [1] https://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/template/ [2] http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHKpUEACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS8YgCgtHDndyMwgavLg8LmwTV7Suma g/sAoNTtlMU+tRD1pcpPjfORX4t0Uh1M =UT+b -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-26 11:16, batinste wrote: I guess that asking Ardour's main dev (Paul Davis, also one of jackd's devs) about the expected behaviour of a jack app would be a good idea. i'd rather ask the entire jack-dev crew. while paul has written the original jack server, he is no longer the main authore of jackd2. ~$ pd-extended 4 seconds trying to get that there's no jackd running... Did i specified -jack ? No ! So why is Pd-ext trying to start it ? most likely because you *did* specify to start -jack in your preferences. but seriously: i don't think this is a very good example (most likely you were trying to prove that my claim that pd should not try to be too clever was incorrect in many cases). what i did forget in my post is: yes, i would like to have an -audio auto switch, that will try to get *any* audio backend (e.g. jack, alsa, oss, dummy; in that order) i even think that this should be the default (e.g. when you start Pd with no arguments and uninitialized settings). but if the user specifies a given audio backend (e.g. -audio jack, or -jack as we currently call it), then Pd should not do something else. those who don't like the default any config, could specify multiple backends, e.g. -audio alsa,oss fgvjmasdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHKtPkACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvRN3QCg4pfezb+PkFOqbq/iIpT7Q/lg N4QAoN9FtfaPg24pgpocCWjErv1UFwkb =QpoS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-26 12:29, batinste wrote: On 26/06/2013 11:31, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2013-06-26 11:16, batinste wrote: I guess that asking Ardour's main dev (Paul Davis, also one of jackd's devs) about the expected behaviour of a jack app would be a good idea. i'd rather ask the entire jack-dev crew. Eventually, but Paul's take on a professionnal jack app is interesting. while paul has written the original jack server, he is no longer the main authore of jackd2. I was mentioning his name as someone who develops a jack app as well as someone who knows what's under jackd's hood. sure. the best bet is porbably to just ask on linux-audio-dev, where paul is a frequent poster and loads of other people who use jack on a semi to fully professional level. ~$ cat .pdextended | grep flags flags: ~$ cat /etc/pd-extended/default.pdextended | grep flags flags: because the audio API is not selected via flags. $ grep audioapi ~/.pdextended /etc/pd-extended/default.pdextended what i did forget in my post is: yes, i would like to have an -audio auto switch, that will try to get *any* audio backend (e.g. jack, alsa, oss, dummy; in that order) agree i even think that this should be the default (e.g. when you start Pd with no arguments and uninitialized settings). not agree. What if i don't want to make sound with Pd ? currently you do this by running pd -noaudio. (i would prefer something like -audio dummy or -audio none) while it makes perfect sense for Pd to run without audio, i still think that it is a *very* sane default to enable audio by default, and only disable it on demand. And, worst, what if i want to ? Especially on linux, where the flash/alsa/pulseaudio is a mess... I just tried : launch pd-extended -alsa, open a youtube vid : the vid plays for 4 sec, then stops. Open a youtube vid, then launch pd-extended -alsa : the vid plays, pd-ext is unusable and unresponsive when i try to create and patch. i never experienced something like this. it works fine here (pd-vanilla): of course i don't get sound if some other process blocks it, but everything else works great. I want the choice. (use an other OS/distro is not a valid criticism ;) ) definitely. gfmasd IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHK12wACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvSRDQCgy/MR5ndLmRj6q4akb6Q+7baN N6sAn2/2hp1gfkrTw8XwEDCI3JdCbql/ =d7Ae -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] pd-0.45 + jack == weirdness
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2013-06-26 14:11, Nick Lanham wrote: I would expect a call to `jack_client_open()` when I turn DSP on, not when I launch an app with which I might not make audio at all.. Agreed. If I don't turn on DSP, PD probably shouldn't start jack, but if you haven't started jack and you've configured PD to use jack, and you turn on DSP, it should probably start it. note, that this is the behaviour we had (0.43) and it broke quite a lot of things. especially, starting and shutting down the jack *client* takes some time, and attaching that to [; pd dsp 1/0( is a bad idea (e.g. when doing dynamic patching, you would usually turn off the dsp before creating a few signal-objects, and then turn it on again...so Pd only has to recompute the DSP-graph once; if this would also mean power-cycling the jack connection, yo get loads of dropouts) gfamsdr IOhannes -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlHK598ACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvThmACfe9twzRA9iAzAySeeA4wp2RIc +b0AnRDyXHdbZEr26PgPGsUpyDB3hBtM =uW4A -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
