Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-12 Thread Marco Donnarumma 
>
> "marcodsad-Xth-Sense-lib-5299660" seems to be like a github generated
> directory name, which you cannot do much about.
> i guess the best approach is to properly tag the release at github, then
> download the zip extract it, rename the root-folder re-zip it with the
> new name and upload it to e.g. puredata.info/downloads
>
> github#s download-tagged-versions feature is great but i don't think it
> is targeted at the super lay audience which you seem to be talking about...
>
>
Yep, that's probably the best idea.
Simple and clean.

btw, there is no way to change that automatic github name, isn't it?

M


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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig 
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> This might seem annoying, but I have found it makes it much easier for people 
> to install things: the meta file "xthsense-meta.pd", the download page title 
> "Xth-Sense-library", the library name "Xth-Sense-lib", and the folder from 
> the download folder "marcodsad-Xth-Sense-lib-5299660" are all different names.


"marcodsad-Xth-Sense-lib-5299660" seems to be like a github generated
directory name, which you cannot do much about.
i guess the best approach is to properly tag the release at github, then
download the zip extract it, rename the root-folder re-zip it with the
new name and upload it to e.g. puredata.info/downloads

github#s download-tagged-versions feature is great but i don't think it
is targeted at the super lay audience which you seem to be talking about...


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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-11 Thread Marco Donnarumma 
>
> This might seem annoying, but I have found it makes it much easier for
> people to install things: the meta file "xthsense-meta.pd", the download
> page title "Xth-Sense-library", the library name "Xth-Sense-lib", and the
> folder from the download folder "marcodsad-Xth-Sense-lib-5299660" are all
> different names.
>
>
No, it's not annoying at all, it is actually a good point.
I renamed everything related to the XS lib as "xth-sense-lib".
I'd rather the dashes instead of one word as there are other two projects
out there called xsens and xsense.
On top of that, there is also the software which, guess what?, is called
Xth Sense.

Anyway, I renamed the Pd portal page, the github repo and the *meta.pd too.
Added also a new tag for the current snapshot.



> - create a folder in your git called "xthsense"
> - move all of the objects into that folder
> - add a README.txt telling people to drop the "xthsense" folder into the
> standard user folder:
> http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files
>

I'm not really sure either I understand this correctly, or I agree with it.
You mean change my local repo, by including a subfolder into the main
library folder which would include all the objects?
and then push everything?

If ppl have to unzip a file, find a folder with a weird name, go into it,
take the new folder with the right name, and put it somewhere,
I don't see why this would be easier than just unzip the github file,
rename the first folder you get and move it.

I can't find other examples to understand better what you mean.

thanks for your advice,

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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 

On Mar 9, 2012, at 7:34 PM, patrick wrote:

> Hi Hans,
> 
>> It seems that "getting into Pd-extended" has come to mean "let Hans 
>> maintain it for me", and this is no longer a viable option.
> 
> I totally understand that! I just wanted to tell Marco that it was too late 
> for 0.43. I will surely recheck Pdmtl & Mtl for 0.44 - but last time I did, 
> 1-2 years ago, it was working fine (no pool dependency).

Hey Patrick,

That grumpiness wasn't targeted at you, sorry if you thought so.  For mtl, the 
next step is making a versioned release that's easy to install.  Since you're 
using github now, I think it makes sense to follow the same advice I gave Marco:

- create a folder in your git called "mtl"
- move all of the objects into that folder
- add a README.txt telling people to drop the "mtl" folder into the standard 
user folder:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files

Then you can just make git tags and github will make the release tarballs for 
you.  This is how the gridflow releases are structured and it seems to be 
working well.

If you want to make it into a Debian package, the easiest way is to use the 
Library Template, that means listing all of the objects in the Makefile in 
PDOBJECTS and making sure every object has a help patch.

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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread patrick 

Hi Hans,


It seems that "getting into Pd-extended" has come to mean "let Hans maintain it for 
me", and this is no longer a viable option.


I totally understand that! I just wanted to tell Marco that it was too 
late for 0.43. I will surely recheck Pdmtl & Mtl for 0.44 - but last 
time I did, 1-2 years ago, it was working fine (no pool dependency).


Thanks,
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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 

On Mar 9, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

> 
> 
> Yes, I know. I set up a tag in my local git, but can't figure out how to 
> update github, so to have the link you mentioned earlier.
> 
> 
> 
> git push --tags -u origin master
> 
> Ok, I also have the link to the static release.
> I feel conformed now :)


This might seem annoying, but I have found it makes it much easier for people 
to install things: the meta file "xthsense-meta.pd", the download page title 
"Xth-Sense-library", the library name "Xth-Sense-lib", and the folder from the 
download folder "marcodsad-Xth-Sense-lib-5299660" are all different names.

That means people have to know that the have to rename 
"marcodsad-Xth-Sense-lib-5299660" to "xthsense" in order to make it work like a 
lib.  Instead I propose this:

- create a folder in your git called "xthsense"
- move all of the objects into that folder
- add a README.txt telling people to drop the "xthsense" folder into the 
standard user folder:
http://puredata.info/docs/faq/how-do-i-install-externals-and-help-files
- rename the /downloads/ page to "xthsense"

It can be called something other than "xthsense", it just needs to be the same 
name everywhere.  Also, for read-me in libdirs, README.txt is the standard 
name, not README.

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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Marco Donnarumma 
> Yes, I know. I set up a tag in my local git, but can't figure out how to
> update github, so to have the link you mentioned earlier.
>
>
>
git push --tags -u origin master

Ok, I also have the link to the static release.
I feel conformed now :)


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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Marco Donnarumma 
> Looks like lots of progress, that's good to see.  :-)
>
>
:)


> A link to master in git is not a release.  That is a moving target, it
> will always download the latest code from from git.  A release has a
> version and a static download, and has been thoroughly tested.  Think of
> any software you use: pd-extended, firefox, Ubuntu, Mac OS X, any of those
> many many libs included in your system, etc.
>
> Yes, I know. I set up a tag in my local git, but can't figure out how to
update github, so to have the link you mentioned earlier.


> Either remove that dependency, or work to get that dependency into
> Pd-extended.
>

Yep, banal question :)



> Basically, make your library based off of the Library Template, and the
> rest is easy.  If its only Pd patches, then you just need to list the names
> of all your objects in PDOBJECTS = , then run "make install" and "make
> dist" to test it.  Check out other libs for examples, like mapping,
> list-abs, etc.
>

Ok, thanks, will do.


> Inclusion in 0.43.1 is not possible, but all of this work is not in vain.
>  It will make it much easier for people to download and install your
> library, regardless of whether its included in Pd-extended or not.  And it
> will also lead to inclusion in 0.44.
>

Ok, there's no problem. It is my concern to make the library as accessible
as possible.

cheers,
M



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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 

On Mar 9, 2012, at 12:54 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

> Le 2012-03-09 à 15:20:00, Marco Donnarumma a écrit :
> 
>> wow, PdMtl is out there since ages...  I always thought why it is not yet 
>> included. 
> 
> Yes, and there are also much older libs than that, that aren't included 
> either.

Yes indeed, gridflow is a great example of a very elaborate library that is now 
really easy to install and use with Pd.  The gridflow team has done that on 
their own outside of Pd-extended, and should be commended for it.  It means 
they can push out updates on their own schedule and not have to fit into the 
long release cycle of Pd-extended, and also, it makes it easy to use gridflow 
with Pd-vanilla, etc.

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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Mathieu Bouchard 

Le 2012-03-09 à 15:20:00, Marco Donnarumma a écrit :

wow, PdMtl is out there since ages...  I always thought why it is not 
yet included. 


Yes, and there are also much older libs than that, that aren't included 
either.


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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 

Looks like lots of progress, that's good to see.  :-)

On Mar 9, 2012, at 11:49 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

> Thanks Hans.
> 
> I still think it is doable for the Xth Sense lib, this is the current state 
> of the lib according to the guidelines.
> 
> OK_ it is cross-platform, I did 7 workshops in 2011 with this tools on 
> different machines.
> 
> OK_ the lib is in Libdir format
> 
> OK_ it is already released as a standalone Libdir on github and puredata.info

A link to master in git is not a release.  That is a moving target, it will 
always download the latest code from from git.  A release has a version and a 
static download, and has been thoroughly tested.  Think of any software you 
use: pd-extended, firefox, Ubuntu, Mac OS X, any of those many many libs 
included in your system, etc.

> NOT OK_ Two objects do depend on something not included in Pd-extended
> what could be the best way to solve this issue?

Either remove that dependency, or work to get that dependency into Pd-extended.

> OK_ it is listed in the puredata.org libraries page
> http://puredata.info/downloads/xth-sense-library
> 
> OK_ I'm happy to do Debian/testing with some guidance

Basically, make your library based off of the Library Template, and the rest is 
easy.  If its only Pd patches, then you just need to list the names of all your 
objects in PDOBJECTS = , then run "make install" and "make dist" to test it.  
Check out other libs for examples, like mapping, list-abs, etc.

> Let me know what do you think, if the inclusion is possible,
> and if I'm missing something.
> Gonna subscribe to Pd-dev.

Inclusion in 0.43.1 is not possible, but all of this work is not in vain.  It 
will make it much easier for people to download and install your library, 
regardless of whether its included in Pd-extended or not.  And it will also 
lead to inclusion in 0.44.

.hc

> 
> thanks,
> M
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner  wrote:
> 
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for
>> the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).
>> 
>> 
>> ooh :/
>> wow, PdMtl is out there since ages... 
>> I always thought why it is not yet included. 
> 
> One showstopper is that it relies on objects that are not included in 
> Pd-extended (pool, last I checked).  But mostly its because there has never 
> been a proper versioned release. 
> 
> 
>> Quoting Hans
>> "
>> ...
>> I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible.  With
>> much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install
>> themselves, and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing
>> has been added since November, so its in feature freeze.
>> 
>> 
>> I see, fair enough. But why it is such a hassle?
>> If the library is ready according to the community guidelines, is it still a 
>> pain to include it?
> 
> People have come to expect quite a bit of consistency with libraries in 
> Pd-extended, and this consistency is cross-platform.  Indeed this is a core 
> goal of Pd-extended.  That means that new libraries need to be checked so 
> that they are known to work the same across all platforms that Pd-extended 
> supports.  It also means that every object included in Pd-extended will work 
> with only Pd-extended, no external libraries required.  And it means that 
> every object has its own help patch, and so on, and so forth.
> 
> If you think that getting into Debian/testing is hard, that is easier than it 
> seems.  The library template takes care of that for you, and I'm happy to 
> sponsor/upload/maintain in Debian any Pd library that is based on the Library 
> Template.
> 
> 
>> - Having it on github will make that a easier too.  You don't need to
>> make release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git,
>> ie "git tag v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball.
>> 
>> 
>> Xth Sense is happily on github already.
>> 
>>  
>> - adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for
>> people to find
>> 
>> - and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals,
>> ~/Library/Pd, etc.
>> 
>> did that to facilitate installation process during my workshop.
>> Will add it to downloads when it will be ready.
> 
> 
> Tag a release, and github will make a download link for you.  Then you can 
> add that to the downloads page.
> 
> .hc
> 
> 
> 
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> his wishes.  Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or 
> perish.-William Carlos Williams
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Marco Donnarumma 
Thanks Hans.

I still think it is doable for the Xth Sense lib, this is the current state
of the lib according to the guidelines.

OK_ it is cross-platform, I did 7 workshops in 2011 with this tools on
different machines.

OK_ the lib is in Libdir format

OK_ it is already released as a standalone Libdir on github and
puredata.info

NOT OK_ Two objects do depend on something not included in Pd-extended
what could be the best way to solve this issue?

OK_ it is listed in the puredata.org libraries page
http://puredata.info/downloads/xth-sense-library

OK_ I'm happy to do Debian/testing with some guidance

Let me know what do you think, if the inclusion is possible,
and if I'm missing something.
Gonna subscribe to Pd-dev.

thanks,
M



On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

>
> On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:
>
>
>> Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for
>> the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).
>>
>>
> ooh :/
> wow, PdMtl is out there since ages...
> I always thought why it is not yet included.
>
>
> One showstopper is that it relies on objects that are not included in
> Pd-extended (pool, last I checked).  But mostly its because there has never
> been a proper versioned release.
>
>
> Quoting Hans
>> "
>> ...
>> I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible.  With
>> much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install
>> themselves, and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing
>> has been added since November, so its in feature freeze.
>>
>>
> I see, fair enough. But why it is such a hassle?
> If the library is ready according to the community guidelines, is it still
> a pain to include it?
>
>
> People have come to expect quite a bit of consistency with libraries in
> Pd-extended, and this consistency is cross-platform.  Indeed this is a core
> goal of Pd-extended.  That means that new libraries need to be checked so
> that they are known to work the same across all platforms that Pd-extended
> supports.  It also means that every object included in Pd-extended will
> work with only Pd-extended, no external libraries required.  And it means
> that every object has its own help patch, and so on, and so forth.
>
> If you think that getting into Debian/testing is hard, that is easier than
> it seems.  The library template takes care of that for you, and I'm happy
> to sponsor/upload/maintain in Debian any Pd library that is based on the
> Library Template.
>
>
> - Having it on github will make that a easier too.  You don't need to
>> make release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git,
>> ie "git tag v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball.
>>
>>
> Xth Sense is happily on github already.
>
>
>
>> - adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for
>> people to find
>>
>> - and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals,
>> ~/Library/Pd, etc.
>>
>
> did that to facilitate installation process during my workshop.
> Will add it to downloads when it will be ready.
>
>
> Tag a release, and github will make a download link for you.  Then you can
> add that to the downloads page.
>
> .hc
>
>
> 
>
> Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to
> realize his wishes.  Now that he can realize them, he must either change
> them, or perish.-William Carlos Williams
>
>
>


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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 

On Mar 9, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Marco Donnarumma wrote:

> 
> Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for
> the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).
> 
> 
> ooh :/
> wow, PdMtl is out there since ages... 
> I always thought why it is not yet included. 

One showstopper is that it relies on objects that are not included in 
Pd-extended (pool, last I checked).  But mostly its because there has never 
been a proper versioned release. 


> Quoting Hans
> "
> ...
> I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible.  With
> much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install
> themselves, and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing
> has been added since November, so its in feature freeze.
> 
> 
> I see, fair enough. But why it is such a hassle?
> If the library is ready according to the community guidelines, is it still a 
> pain to include it?

People have come to expect quite a bit of consistency with libraries in 
Pd-extended, and this consistency is cross-platform.  Indeed this is a core 
goal of Pd-extended.  That means that new libraries need to be checked so that 
they are known to work the same across all platforms that Pd-extended supports. 
 It also means that every object included in Pd-extended will work with only 
Pd-extended, no external libraries required.  And it means that every object 
has its own help patch, and so on, and so forth.

If you think that getting into Debian/testing is hard, that is easier than it 
seems.  The library template takes care of that for you, and I'm happy to 
sponsor/upload/maintain in Debian any Pd library that is based on the Library 
Template.


> - Having it on github will make that a easier too.  You don't need to
> make release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git,
> ie "git tag v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball.
> 
> 
> Xth Sense is happily on github already.
> 
>  
> - adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for
> people to find
> 
> - and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals,
> ~/Library/Pd, etc.
> 
> did that to facilitate installation process during my workshop.
> Will add it to downloads when it will be ready.


Tag a release, and github will make a download link for you.  Then you can add 
that to the downloads page.

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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Marco Donnarumma 
>
>
> Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for
> the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).
>
>
ooh :/
wow, PdMtl is out there since ages...
I always thought why it is not yet included.


Quoting Hans
> "
> ...
> I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible.  With
> much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install
> themselves, and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing
> has been added since November, so its in feature freeze.
>
>
I see, fair enough. But why it is such a hassle?
If the library is ready according to the community guidelines, is it still
a pain to include it?



> - Having it on github will make that a easier too.  You don't need to
> make release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git,
> ie "git tag v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball.
>
>
Xth Sense is happily on github already.



> - adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for
> people to find
>
> - and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals,
> ~/Library/Pd, etc.
>

did that to facilitate installation process during my workshop.
Will add it to downloads when it will be ready.


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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner 

Thanks for posting that, Patrick.  If you have never made a proper versioned 
release of your library, then its safe to say that its a long way from getting 
into Pd-extended.  Here is the full process (which is what I do for the 
libraries I maintain in Pd-extended):

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingIntoPdextended

It seems that "getting into Pd-extended" has come to mean "let Hans 
maintain it for me", and this is no longer a viable option.  But it is 
now easy to distribute and install libraries, so if you make your library a 
libdir and post it to puredata.info/downloads, people will be able to easily 
find and install your libraries.

.hc

On Mar 9, 2012, at 8:47 AM, patrick wrote:

> Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for the 
> inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).
> 
> Quoting Hans
> "
> ...
> I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible.  With much 
> less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install themselves, and 
> that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing has been added since 
> November, so its in feature freeze.
> 
> - Having it on github will make that a easier too.  You don't need to make 
> release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git, ie "git tag 
> v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball.
> 
> - adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for 
> people to find
> 
> - and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals, 
> ~/Library/Pd, etc.
> 
> These are all steps that need to be done to get it into Pd-extended also, so 
> it would not be wasted effort.
> ...
> "
> 
> 
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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Pedro Lopes 
Sees that git would be the way to go. Why not then? Would the migration
mean huge workload for the "admins"?

I've happily switch from svn and other managers to git, and living happily
with git on my server.

best,
pedro

On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 2:47 PM, patrick  wrote:

> Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for the
> inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).
>
> Quoting Hans
> "
> ...
> I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible.  With much
> less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install themselves,
> and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing has been added
> since November, so its in feature freeze.
>
> - Having it on github will make that a easier too.  You don't need to make
> release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git, ie "git
> tag v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball.
>
> - adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for
> people to find
>
> - and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals,
> ~/Library/Pd, etc.
>
> These are all steps that need to be done to get it into Pd-extended also,
> so it would not be wasted effort.
> ...
>
> "
>
>
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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread patrick 
Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for 
the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43).


Quoting Hans
"
...
I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible.  With 
much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install 
themselves, and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing 
has been added since November, so its in feature freeze.


- Having it on github will make that a easier too.  You don't need to 
make release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git, 
ie "git tag v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball.


- adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for 
people to find


- and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals, 
~/Library/Pd, etc.


These are all steps that need to be done to get it into Pd-extended 
also, so it would not be wasted effort.

...
"



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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread João Pais 
everyone should always be on time, basically the files only has to be  
"subverted" into the depository.
write to Hans-Christoph directly, and join the pd-dev list. He'll tell you  
what needs to be done (or point you to the relevant page somewhere in  
puredata.info).


With pd-ext 0.43 coming out some time soon, this is the right timing.


Am I?

the library lives at the link below (along with the Xth Sense software
repo).
It includes over 100 objects, and only needs some more help-files to be
completed, but for everything else it should be compatible with the
guidelines.
https://github.com/marcodsad/Xth-Sense-lib

"This collection of objects has been designed to be used within the Xth
Sense framework. However most object can be used as general purpose tools
for everyday patching needs. The taxonomy is inspired to the PdMtl  
library:
objects are divided in categories, and each of these is defined by a  
prefix"


As I plan to release the Xth Sense system in April I would be glad if I  
was

still in time to propose the inclusion of the lib.

Thanks,




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[PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?

2012-03-09 Thread Marco Donnarumma 
Am I?

the library lives at the link below (along with the Xth Sense software
repo).
It includes over 100 objects, and only needs some more help-files to be
completed, but for everything else it should be compatible with the
guidelines.
https://github.com/marcodsad/Xth-Sense-lib

"This collection of objects has been designed to be used within the Xth
Sense framework. However most object can be used as general purpose tools
for everyday patching needs. The taxonomy is inspired to the PdMtl library:
objects are divided in categories, and each of these is defined by a prefix"

As I plan to release the Xth Sense system in April I would be glad if I was
still in time to propose the inclusion of the lib.

Thanks,

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