Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
HI, Morgan Packard wrote: Hello there. I'm interested in using PD. However, as someone who spends a lot of time with code, I'm actually a little afraid of the learning curve involved with the graphical programming language! I'd be much more comfortable creating my patches using, for example,

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread errordeveloper
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 09:04:18AM +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: HI, Morgan Packard wrote: Hello there. I'm interested in using PD. However, as someone who spends a lot of time with code, I'm actually a little afraid of the learning curve involved with the graphical programming

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread errordeveloper
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Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread João Pais
there's also pdlua, which is much easier to build than py. if you want to learn lua, it works well. the package brings some example patches. http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/cm/2008-06-19_pdlua-0.5_released.html HI, Morgan Packard wrote: Hello there. I'm interested in using PD. However,

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-03 07:35, Morgan Packard wrote: Hello there. I'm interested in using PD. However, as someone who spends a lot of time with code, I'm actually a little afraid of the learning curve involved with the graphical programming language!

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Andrew Faraday
Same synthesis capabilities, chuck or supercollider (less real-time, csound)Similar graphic capabilities... Processing Although I've got to agree. once you've gotten over infamiliarity the data-flow interface of Pd is definately one of it's greatest strengths. As with any language you've got

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread errordeveloper
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 10:06:21AM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-03 09:37, errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: You can write plug-in scripts in Tcl/Tk. Since 0.43 there is an official way of loading them .. though Miller

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-03 12:18, errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for not being very politically correct. When I asked Hans about what's heppening with the plugins, he said that Miller has an opinion about this feature to remain but no plugin code is

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread errordeveloper
On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 01:02:19PM +0100, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-03 12:18, errordevelo...@gmail.com wrote: sorry for not being very politically correct. When I asked Hans about what's heppening with the plugins, he said

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Morgan Packard
Thanks IOHannes, I'm interested in PD primarily as an audio engine embedded in iOS apps. For legal and technical reasons, most of the other obvious choices aren't viable for me. And thanks for your ps. You're correct that I'm not looking for ways to embed scripting into PD, I'm looking for a more

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Tedb0t
Whoops, just realized I hadn't replied to the list: It seems to me that there are two ways to maybe? accomplish what you're describing: 1) what I've explored fairly deeply is using the pd internal messages to create objects in a running patch from a python script over a socket connection.

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Tedb0t
I don't know if anyone has already created a (scripting) tool specifically for generating pd patch files? On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Morgan Packard wrote: Hit Tedb0t, #2 is definitely what I'm interested in. It does look pretty simple to roll my own. But if someone had already created a

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Morgan Packard
And I forgot too! (along with accidentally writing hit tedbot instead of hi tedbot in my original reply. I definitely meant the latter, not the former!) Hi Tedb0t, #2 is definitely what I'm interested in. It does look pretty simple to roll my own. But if someone had already created a nice tool to

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Tedb0t wrote: I don't know if anyone has already created a (scripting) tool specifically for generating pd patch files? I made several, over the years. GridFlow's class index is generated by a Tcl script. My jmax-to-pd patch conversion tool was written in Ruby. The

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Ed Kelly
Load a PD patch in a text editor and take a look. Ed Metastudio 4 for Pure Data - coming soon! Metastudio 3 still available at http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata From: Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Thu, 3 February, 2011

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Bernardo Barros
2011/2/3 Morgan Packard mor...@morganpackard.com: SuperCollider or CSound or whatever. But neither of those is an option for me. For legal reasons? If it's your own project, consider the option charging for your work, you just have to make your modifications available. Or because they don't on

Re: [PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-03 Thread Morgan Packard
Thanks Ed. Yes, it is indeed simple-looking. But simply editing that file by hand doesn't do me much good. I'd want the power of scripting -- loops, variables, conditionals, to generate such a thing for me. -Morgan On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 3:35 PM, Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Load a PD

[PD] Are there alternative means of creating patches besides the graphical editor?

2011-02-02 Thread Morgan Packard
Hello there. I'm interested in using PD. However, as someone who spends a lot of time with code, I'm actually a little afraid of the learning curve involved with the graphical programming language! I'd be much more comfortable creating my patches using, for example, a Python tool. Does such a