Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-27 Thread J Oliver
Hi Miller, Is this with the test tone patch? for the record i compared the on board intel card of the linux machine, the result is quite impressive, i don't think it can get any better: I have also gotten the HDA way lower than 20 ms in ubuntu 12.04...! best, J

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-27 Thread Max
you are right - those numbers seem to be to good to be true. On the other hand I followed the instructions in the latency patch and don't know what could have been wrong. Am 26.11.2012 um 19:04 schrieb Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu: Hmm - I'm getting latencies between 6 and 7 (Fedora 17, Core

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-27 Thread Max
Am 27.11.2012 um 17:02 schrieb J Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com: for the record i compared the on board intel card of the linux machine, the result is quite impressive, i don't think it can get any better: I have also gotten the HDA way lower than 20 ms in ubuntu 12.04...! for comparability

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette
If I'm reading rour post right, you're specifying 20 msec latency and getting about 22, which is OK, but I think you should be able to get lower latencies (i.e., I don't see that numbers like 21.9012 are too good to be true - those are typical Macintosh latencies but I think in linux you should be

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-27 Thread Max
oh really? that's interesting. The later numbers come from a Ubuntu machine which isn't set up for sound at all, so when I compare those with a os x machine and the famous rme drivers the numbers are still impressive. Am 27.11.2012 um 17:47 schrieb Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu: If I'm

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-26 Thread Max
I got a new Fireface UCX, updated drivers and did a fresh test (replacement for the first one which didn't work). It has three modes: Firewire, USB and USB in Class Compliant (Plug and Play) mode. Interesting is, that Firewire is the worst when it comes to latency and Class Compliant is less

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-26 Thread J Oliver
Hi Max, Is it possible for you to test this same card in linux? J On Nov 26, 2012, at 9:25 AM, Max wrote: I got a new Fireface UCX, updated drivers and did a fresh test (replacement for the first one which didn't work). It has three modes: Firewire, USB and USB in Class Compliant (Plug

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-26 Thread Max
Am 26.11.2012 um 16:18 schrieb J Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com: Hi Max, Is it possible for you to test this same card in linux? J I wanted to do this, but I don't have a linux machine with firewire, so i can't test the ffado driver for the card. I wanted to try out the class compliant

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-26 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm - I'm getting latencies between 6 and 7 (Fedora 17, Core 7200, INTEL HDA, latest Pd from git, but I think Pd 0.43 should do similar). cheers Miller On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 06:53:31PM +0100, Max wrote: Am 26.11.2012 um 16:18 schrieb J Oliver jaime.oliv...@gmail.com: Hi Max, Is it

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-21 Thread Tee
On 16/10/2012 11:03, Max wrote: Am 16.10.2012 um 10:47 schrieb Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com: I will spear you my rant about the situation of external sound card for linux laptop users (many electronic musicians IMHO) as it would only be full of bitterness and frustration. I'd

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-20 Thread patrick
hi, finally i got my new computer with an external firewire PCI-E TI chipset card (25$/CAD). it is working. my latency is now 8ms (round-trip measure with jack_iodelay). i am using ubuntu-studio that use the low-latency kernel by default. à+ ___

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-20 Thread Max
Am 19.11.2012 um 09:45 schrieb Peter P. p8...@aol.com: * Max abonneme...@revolwear.com [2012-11-19 09:05]: I just got a RME Fireface UCX and will test it on linux soon. it has a USB class compliant mode, so it should run. The documentation says that the latency in the class compliant mode is

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-19 Thread Max
Betreff: Re: [PD] firewire is dead? Jack + fa101? I have never, ever got this to give me anything other than glitchy, unusable audio! actually it was still called smartcard.. either how i use it still with edirol fa101 never failed me, rocksolid performance with jack On 10/16/2012 6:11 PM

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-11-19 Thread Peter P.
be a perfect solution i think. anyone checked this yet? cheers, peter Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. Oktober 2012 um 23:33 Uhr Von: Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk An: Rob Bothof rbot...@xs4all.nl, pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] firewire is dead? Jack + fa101? I have

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-18 Thread Peter Venus
Von:Ed Kelly morph_2...@yahoo.co.uk An:Rob Bothof rbot...@xs4all.nl, pd-list@iem.at pd-list@iem.at Betreff:Re: [PD] firewire is dead? Jack + fa101? I have never, ever got this to give me anything other than glitchy, unusable audio! actually it was still

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-17 Thread Julian Brooks
Sorry, yes of course, it's the quasi firewire. On 16 October 2012 16:48, András Murányi muran...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in a recommendation for that (external soundcard for linux laptops). I have a Lenovo

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-17 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 17:48 +0200, András Murányi wrote: On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 5:11 PM, Julian Brooks jbee...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in a recommendation for that (external soundcard for linux laptops). I have a Lenovo x61s (s/h £180, best laptop

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-17 Thread Cyrille Henry
Le 16/10/2012 11:03, Max a écrit : Am 16.10.2012 um 10:47 schrieb Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com: I will spear you my rant about the situation of external sound card for linux laptop users (many electronic musicians IMHO) as it would only be full of bitterness and frustration.

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-17 Thread Ed Kelly
Jack + fa101? I have never, ever got this to give me anything other than glitchy, unusable audio!   actually it was still called smartcard.. either how i use it still with edirol fa101 never failed me, rocksolid performance with jack On 10/16/2012 6:11 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 10/16/2012

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-17 Thread Rob Bothof
no kiddin? been using it for about 5years with both jack1 and 2 i've been mainly used pd and lots of midi-controllers though and only at 44kz maybe that is the issue ? i meant to say cardbus-firewire ofcourse (smartcard ?!) grtz Rob Jack + fa101? I have never, ever got this to give me

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-16 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
On 16/10/12 01:17, patrick wrote: hi all, i have a firepod 1010 firewire soundcard, i am using linux / jack. the new motherboard doesn't have firewire. what to do? You talk about motherboard, so I assume this is a desktop machine, I think you can easily get a firewire card and hook your

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-16 Thread Max
Am 16.10.2012 um 10:47 schrieb Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsut...@gmail.com: I will spear you my rant about the situation of external sound card for linux laptop users (many electronic musicians IMHO) as it would only be full of bitterness and frustration. I'd be interested in a recommendation

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-16 Thread batinste
I did some research about new laptops, and its far easier to find laptops with expresscard ports than laptops with fw ports. My laptop has one of these awfully fragile-looking tiny fw ports AND an expresscard port, so i can use a firewire-expresscard port adapter whenever i don't feel like

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-10-16 01:17, patrick wrote: hi all, i have a firepod 1010 firewire soundcard, i am using linux / jack. the new motherboard doesn't have firewire. what to do? just yesterday i was searching for some expansion card and discovered a whole

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-16 Thread patrick
good, i was a little bit worried about using a pci-e firewire adapter for audio in linux / jack. about latency, yesterday i used jdelay to measure the round-trip of my latency, at 44100 with 128, 3 = 17 ms (jack reports 8 ms). at 96000 i get 7 ms, BUT my cpu seems to be working hard and i get

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-16 Thread Julian Brooks
I'd be interested in a recommendation for that (external soundcard for linux laptops). I have a Lenovo x61s (s/h £180, best laptop I've ever had) with an RME Hammerfall (v.1 [s/h £150]). It's great - stable, easy to setup, 8IO + the software HDSP_conf/mixer works well (and seems to have done for

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-16 Thread yvan volochine
On 10/16/2012 02:45 PM, patrick wrote: good, i was a little bit worried about using a pci-e firewire adapter for audio in linux / jack. about latency, yesterday i used jdelay to measure the round-trip of my latency, at 44100 with 128, 3 = 17 ms (jack reports 8 ms). at 96000 i get 7 ms, BUT my

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-16 Thread Rob Bothof
actually it was still called smartcard.. either how i use it still with edirol fa101 never failed me, rocksolid performance with jack On 10/16/2012 6:11 PM, yvan volochine wrote: On 10/16/2012 02:45 PM, patrick wrote: good, i was a little bit worried about using a pci-e firewire adapter for

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-16 Thread Rob Bothof
Ive used expresscard a lot with jack for live stuff, the ones with TI chip are assumed the best for this, but i'v gotten perfect results with an other brand aswell i did have the little firewire port on my laptop but it broke down twice..useless On 10/16/2012 02:45 PM, patrick wrote: good, i

[PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-15 Thread patrick
hi all, i have a firepod 1010 firewire soundcard, i am using linux / jack. the new motherboard doesn't have firewire. what to do? also will i be able to lower the latency even more if i have a faster cpu? or it's really the firewire / soundcard limitation? what it the lowest latency

Re: [PD] firewire is dead?

2012-10-15 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
over the software that runs in your machine! -Jonathan - Original Message - From: patrick pured...@11h11.com To: Pure Data list pd-list@iem.at Cc: Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 7:17 PM Subject: [PD] firewire is dead? hi all, i have a firepod 1010 firewire soundcard, i am using