Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-09 Thread Chris McCormick
Hi Flávio! On 08/06/15 23:02, Flávio Schiavoni wrote: > I'm also working in a project with a undergrad student that maybe can be > a good solution to pure data externals maintenance. > He is creating a package manager to PD, like a deb packet with a > repository definition and so on. Sounds excel

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-09 Thread Flávio Schiavoni
Hi there, As I told it before, a student here is developing a Pure Data Package manager. The basic idea of the Pure Data package manager is to deal with bundle files. We are using a zip file for each external or library as the bundle package. The bundle name will contain the library / external

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-08 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
On 06/08/2015 11:55 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > what do you mean by "monolithic distribution"? a single zip-file containing a pd-binary (of extended flavour) and a large collection of externals. gfmdsaf IOhannes signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-08 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
what do you mean by "monolithic distribution"? cheers 2015-06-08 6:04 GMT-03:00 Roman Haefeli : > On Sun, 2015-06-07 at 19:44 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > > > such as why would it have to be concentrated in "one person"? > > I don't think it has to be. It turned out to be like that w

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-08 Thread Flávio Schiavoni
Dear all, I'm also working in a project with a undergrad student that maybe can be a good solution to pure data externals maintenance. He is creating a package manager to PD, like a deb packet with a repository definition and so on. It's his final essay and he needs to work alone on it. As soo

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-08 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sun, 2015-06-07 at 19:44 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > such as why would it have to be concentrated in "one person"? I don't think it has to be. It turned out to be like that when Hans was still working on it. It think it was because Pd-extended is designed in a way that required to

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Dan Wilcox
> On Jun 7, 2015, at 7:03 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > >> On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres > > wrote: >> >> such as why would it have to be concentrated in "one person”? > > Because that’s how the existing extended setup was originally built and > maintai

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Dan Wilcox
> On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres > wrote: > > such as why would it have to be concentrated in "one person”? Because that’s how the existing extended setup was originally built and maintained. > Why the build farm is gone and how hard would it be to

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Dan Wilcox
> On Jun 7, 2015, at 6:44 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > > such as why would it have to be concentrated in "one person”? Because that’s how the existing extended setup was originally built and maintained. > Why the build farm is gone and how hard would it be to put it all back and > run

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
hmm, looks like the "vanilla route" idea is taking place, awesome ;) but ok, lets not to force the cat out of the bag, we'll hold on for that... one way or another, I'd still like to know more about why and how things are complicated with the current extended scenario in more details. such as why

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Chris McCormick
On 07/06/15 20:38, Roman Haefeli wrote: > On Sam, 2015-06-06 at 12:37 -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote: >> To save extra discussion energy and *possibly* let the “cat out of the >> bag” let me say this: just wait a bit, something good is in the works >> to offer a solution to many of these problems. > > I

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-07 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Sam, 2015-06-06 at 12:37 -0400, Dan Wilcox wrote: > To save extra discussion energy and *possibly* let the “cat out of the > bag” let me say this: just wait a bit, something good is in the works > to offer a solution to many of these problems. I'm looking forward! Roman ___

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-06 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
[?][?][?][?][?] 2015-06-06 13:37 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox : > To save extra discussion energy and *possibly* let the “cat out of the > bag” let me say this: just wait a bit, something good is in the works to > offer a solution to many of these problems. > > I won't say anything more until the parties

Re: [PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-06 Thread Dan Wilcox
To save extra discussion energy and *possibly* let the “cat out of the bag” let me say this: just wait a bit, something good is in the works to offer a solution to many of these problems. I won't say anything more until the parties involved feel they are ready. Dan Wilcox @danomatika

[PD] Problems with maintaining Pd-extended (was Mess and redundancy...)

2015-06-06 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hi, this seems more of an accurate thread name for this so I changed it. So, last time anyone discussed about the future of Extended was in the turn of the year 6 months ago, and it kinda led nowhere. I'm aware there are issues around, but I'd to know them in more details, please, if anyone could