Re: [PD] message box - text editing?

2014-09-28 Thread zmoelnig


Quoting Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com:


On this, is there a good way to adjust say for example file names in
message box without using multiple message boxes or manually editing the
message box file name/ path every time you want a new file name?

For example:

[sample1.wav(
|
[writesf~]



i'm not sure i understand your question (apart from your patch which  
is obviously *not* working at all).



what's wrong with the following:

[symbol foo.wav(
|
[set open $1, bang(
|
[open bar.wav(
|
[writesf~]

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Re: [PD] Install 32Bit Pd-extended on 64Bit Ubuntu

2014-09-28 Thread zmoelnig


Quoting Jonghyun Kim agitato...@gmail.com:


Hi list,

I'm on 64Bit Ubuntu 14.04.1, and I wanna to install 32 Bit Pd-extended on
my 64Bit system.

I searched forum and internet, but I can't find out the instruction.


like any other 32bit package you want to install on your 64bit system,  
you first have to enable multi-arch for your system,

and then you can install the 32bit package.

i don't know the commands by heart, but it's something like:
# dpkg --add-architecture i386
there should be plenty of documentation on this subject on the web  
(though probably none related to Pd-extended)


since Pd-extended has *many* dependencies (and most of them are  
platform-dependent, that is: for a 32bit PdX you need to install 32bit  
dependencies), you might end up having a full-fledged 32bit-system  
residing besides your 64bit-system.


are you sure you want this?
(esp. since on recent Ubuntus, you should have most externals  
available as native packages, so you can simply aptitude install  
those that you need - in 64bit mode!)


fgmadsr
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.46-0 released

2014-09-28 Thread zmoelnig


Quoting Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu:


Thanks - I lost this in the 0.46-1 rush but have applied it now.

I notice a UTF8 handling patch in there too that apparently isn't
being applied (and anyho it fails) - is this wirth my trying to apply
be hand? (possibly dangerous since I don't know how utf8 works :)


iirc, an alternative has already  been applied to Pd-vanilla (which  
would make the PdX patch unneeded and would explain why it fails to  
apply).
i don't have my devmachines available right now, but could check in  
the next few days.


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Re: [PD] message box - text editing?

2014-09-28 Thread Richie Cyngler
Thanks IOhannes,

Oops I forgot the open in the message box. Nice solution however we would
still have to either have multiple hand written message boxes or manually
edit a message box. Your patch would probably help accidentally overwriting
files though.



On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:12 PM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote:


 Quoting Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu:

  I can't remember when that disappeared - years ago.


 i think it was lost during the gui-rewrite.
 (the argument being, that this feature was mainly useful for Copy-Paste
 which - snce the rewrite - works within msg-boxes)

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Re: [PD] Recreate pd glitch effect in pd

2014-09-28 Thread zmoelnig

Quoting Ronni Montoya ronni.mont...@gmail.com:


Do anybody have experienced this effect?
Do anybody have an idea how to recreate this effect in pd?


the joys of naive glitch :-)
most likely the glitch effect is simply your computer running out of  
CPU-cycles and thus creating artefacts.
if your new computer has more CPU-cycles to give away, then it will  
not run out of them as soon, thus not producing those artefacts.
those artefacts will change, whenver you change something on your  
system (change *some* hardware; change *some* software; move the  
computer; play at full moon)


so simon's suggestion is probably the best you can do.

if the CPU-load is the only factor governing the glitches, you could  
also get a *similar* effect, by keeping your CPUs busy for just the  
right amount.


i've once written a [cpueater] abstraction (should be available  
somewhere on the web), that would burn idle cycles up to a given  
percentage. you might have luck with it (but most likely not).


fgmasdr
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Re: [PD] message box - text editing?

2014-09-28 Thread Jaime E Oliver

 I can't remember when that disappeared - years ago.
 
 i think it was lost during the gui-rewrite.
 (the argument being, that this feature was mainly useful for Copy-Paste which 
 - snce the rewrite - works within msg-boxes)

not really… you could open edit and close and you could do arrows up and down 
which you cannot do in message boxes. no need to copy in and out of pd which is 
more convenient.

miller's suggestion of updown keys working in msg boxes would solve it.

best,

J
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Re: [PD] pd 0.46-1 released

2014-09-28 Thread zmoelnig


Quoting Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu:

As a workaround for back compatibility I can just reinstate the old variable.
But it won't work correctly in situations where multiple Pd instances are
running in the same address space (as in libpd).



it would be good to have this available as a *function* (rather than a  
global variable).


  EXTERN int pd_getdspstate(t_pdinstance *x);



I need to give this some though.  Anyhow, yes, anyone else reading  
this having

trouble loading externs in Pd 0.46?


haven't come across one yet.

gmdr
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Re: [PD] can't set array size to 1

2014-09-28 Thread Jonghyun Kim
Thanks miller! :)

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:49 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 Fixed... will appear in next release (whenever that happens)

 cheers
 Miller

 On Mon, Sep 01, 2014 at 12:05:54AM +0200, Jonghyun Kim wrote:
  I found the trick. [array define arrayname 1] is unable, but it works
 with
  [resize 1].
 
  [resize 1(
  |
  [array arrayname 777]
 
  then the array will set to 1.
 
 
 
  On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 11:58 PM, Jonghyun Kim agitato...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
   Hi list,
  
   I wanna set arraysize to 1, but it still shows me the default size 100.
   How to set size to 1?
  
   Size to 2 is ok, but 1 is unable. The minimum size of [array] is 2?
  
   I tried it with these, but both can't work.
   *[array define -k arrayname 1]*
   *[array define arrayname 1]*
  
   Thanks,
   Jonghyun Kim(akntk)
  

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Re: [PD] Install 32Bit Pd-extended on 64Bit Ubuntu

2014-09-28 Thread Jonghyun Kim
thanks for the answer!:) I have an additional question.

Can I install both version(32, 64bit) of pd-extended on my 64bit ubuntu
14.04 ?

Is it causes the system conflict?
akntk

On Sunday, September 28, 2014, zmoel...@iem.at wrote:


 Quoting Jonghyun Kim agitato...@gmail.com:

  Hi list,

 I'm on 64Bit Ubuntu 14.04.1, and I wanna to install 32 Bit Pd-extended on
 my 64Bit system.

 I searched forum and internet, but I can't find out the instruction.


 like any other 32bit package you want to install on your 64bit system, you
 first have to enable multi-arch for your system,
 and then you can install the 32bit package.

 i don't know the commands by heart, but it's something like:
 # dpkg --add-architecture i386
 there should be plenty of documentation on this subject on the web (though
 probably none related to Pd-extended)

 since Pd-extended has *many* dependencies (and most of them are
 platform-dependent, that is: for a 32bit PdX you need to install 32bit
 dependencies), you might end up having a full-fledged 32bit-system residing
 besides your 64bit-system.

 are you sure you want this?
 (esp. since on recent Ubuntus, you should have most externals available as
 native packages, so you can simply aptitude install those that you need -
 in 64bit mode!)

 fgmadsr
 IOhannes




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Re: [PD] message box - text editing?

2014-09-28 Thread tim vets
2014-09-28 9:24 GMT+02:00 Richie Cyngler glitch...@gmail.com:

 Thanks IOhannes,

 Oops I forgot the open in the message box. Nice solution however we
 would still have to either have multiple hand written message boxes or
 manually edit a message box. Your patch would probably help accidentally
 overwriting files though.


 how about:

[0\
|
[makefilename take_%03d.wav]
|
[open $1, start(
|
[writesf~]

or, instead of just the numberbox, I like to use [time], [date], [l2s] and
[makefilename take_%s.wav]
that way you can be quite sure you'll have a unique filename each time.




 On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:12 PM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote:


 Quoting Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu:

  I can't remember when that disappeared - years ago.


 i think it was lost during the gui-rewrite.
 (the argument being, that this feature was mainly useful for Copy-Paste
 which - snce the rewrite - works within msg-boxes)

 fgmsdr
 IOhannes



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Re: [PD] Install 32Bit Pd-extended on 64Bit Ubuntu

2014-09-28 Thread Jonghyun Kim
I'm trying to install 32bit pd-extended on 64bit(amd64) Ubuntu 14.04.1

==
akntk@umi:~$ sudo apt-get install pd-extended:i386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 pd-extended:i386 : Depends: libquicktime2:i386 (= 2:1.2.2) but it is not
going to be installed
Depends: ttf-dejavu:i386 but it is not installable
Recommends: x-ttcidfont-conf:i386 but it is not
installable
Recommends: libtk-img:i386 but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: tcllib:i386 but it is not installable
Recommends: tkdnd:i386 but it is not going to be
installed
Recommends: puredata-dev:i386 but it is not installable
Recommends: puredata-utils:i386 but it is not going to
be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
akntk@umi:~$
==

I tried with this command, but to install pd-extended, it asks *too many*
dependency. Is there a way to install all of dependency on pd-extended:i386?

akntk

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Jonghyun Kim agitato...@gmail.com wrote:

 thanks for the answer!:) I have an additional question.

 Can I install both version(32, 64bit) of pd-extended on my 64bit ubuntu
 14.04 ?

 Is it causes the system conflict?
 akntk

 On Sunday, September 28, 2014, zmoel...@iem.at wrote:


 Quoting Jonghyun Kim agitato...@gmail.com:

  Hi list,

 I'm on 64Bit Ubuntu 14.04.1, and I wanna to install 32 Bit Pd-extended on
 my 64Bit system.

 I searched forum and internet, but I can't find out the instruction.


 like any other 32bit package you want to install on your 64bit system,
 you first have to enable multi-arch for your system,
 and then you can install the 32bit package.

 i don't know the commands by heart, but it's something like:
 # dpkg --add-architecture i386
 there should be plenty of documentation on this subject on the web
 (though probably none related to Pd-extended)

 since Pd-extended has *many* dependencies (and most of them are
 platform-dependent, that is: for a 32bit PdX you need to install 32bit
 dependencies), you might end up having a full-fledged 32bit-system residing
 besides your 64bit-system.

 are you sure you want this?
 (esp. since on recent Ubuntus, you should have most externals available
 as native packages, so you can simply aptitude install those that you
 need - in 64bit mode!)

 fgmadsr
 IOhannes




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Re: [PD] Install 32Bit Pd-extended on 64Bit Ubuntu

2014-09-28 Thread Jonghyun Kim
I found it but it's outdated

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/64BitLinux

On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Jonghyun Kim agitato...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm trying to install 32bit pd-extended on 64bit(amd64) Ubuntu 14.04.1

 ==
 akntk@umi:~$ sudo apt-get install pd-extended:i386
 Reading package lists... Done
 Building dependency tree
 Reading state information... Done
 Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
 requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
 distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
 or been moved out of Incoming.
 The following information may help to resolve the situation:

 The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  pd-extended:i386 : Depends: libquicktime2:i386 (= 2:1.2.2) but it is not
 going to be installed
 Depends: ttf-dejavu:i386 but it is not installable
 Recommends: x-ttcidfont-conf:i386 but it is not
 installable
 Recommends: libtk-img:i386 but it is not going to be
 installed
 Recommends: tcllib:i386 but it is not installable
 Recommends: tkdnd:i386 but it is not going to be
 installed
 Recommends: puredata-dev:i386 but it is not installable
 Recommends: puredata-utils:i386 but it is not going to
 be installed
 E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
 akntk@umi:~$
 ==

 I tried with this command, but to install pd-extended, it asks *too many*
 dependency. Is there a way to install all of dependency on pd-extended:i386?

 akntk

 On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Jonghyun Kim agitato...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 thanks for the answer!:) I have an additional question.

 Can I install both version(32, 64bit) of pd-extended on my 64bit ubuntu
 14.04 ?

 Is it causes the system conflict?
 akntk

 On Sunday, September 28, 2014, zmoel...@iem.at wrote:


 Quoting Jonghyun Kim agitato...@gmail.com:

  Hi list,

 I'm on 64Bit Ubuntu 14.04.1, and I wanna to install 32 Bit Pd-extended
 on
 my 64Bit system.

 I searched forum and internet, but I can't find out the instruction.


 like any other 32bit package you want to install on your 64bit system,
 you first have to enable multi-arch for your system,
 and then you can install the 32bit package.

 i don't know the commands by heart, but it's something like:
 # dpkg --add-architecture i386
 there should be plenty of documentation on this subject on the web
 (though probably none related to Pd-extended)

 since Pd-extended has *many* dependencies (and most of them are
 platform-dependent, that is: for a 32bit PdX you need to install 32bit
 dependencies), you might end up having a full-fledged 32bit-system residing
 besides your 64bit-system.

 are you sure you want this?
 (esp. since on recent Ubuntus, you should have most externals available
 as native packages, so you can simply aptitude install those that you
 need - in 64bit mode!)

 fgmadsr
 IOhannes




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Re: [PD] Recreate pd glitch effect in pd

2014-09-28 Thread Marcus D'Camp
What about buffer override? There's an object/patch called buffery~ that
I've seen before that can create the effect I believe you are looking for.

http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/1758/buffery-a-cheap-vanilla-pd-buffer-override-clone/5

* first time post here, long time lurker

Cheers,
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On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 12:26 AM, zmoel...@iem.at wrote:

 Quoting Ronni Montoya ronni.mont...@gmail.com:


 Do anybody have experienced this effect?
 Do anybody have an idea how to recreate this effect in pd?


 the joys of naive glitch :-)
 most likely the glitch effect is simply your computer running out of
 CPU-cycles and thus creating artefacts.
 if your new computer has more CPU-cycles to give away, then it will not
 run out of them as soon, thus not producing those artefacts.
 those artefacts will change, whenver you change something on your system
 (change *some* hardware; change *some* software; move the computer; play at
 full moon)

 so simon's suggestion is probably the best you can do.

 if the CPU-load is the only factor governing the glitches, you could also
 get a *similar* effect, by keeping your CPUs busy for just the right
 amount.

 i've once written a [cpueater] abstraction (should be available somewhere
 on the web), that would burn idle cycles up to a given percentage. you
 might have luck with it (but most likely not).

 fgmasdr
 IOhannes



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Re: [PD] message box - text editing?

2014-09-28 Thread Ivica Bukvic
Miller et al,

You may want to search pd-l2ork source. Pd-l2ork has a fairly comprehensive
support for ctrl+arrows, home, end as well as up/down arrows by themselves.

Best,

Ico
On Sep 28, 2014 12:13 AM, Miller Puckette m...@ucsd.edu wrote:

 I can't remember when that disappeared - years ago.

 Anyhow, the up and down arrows should do something more intelligent in
 messagee boxes than they do at present...

 cheers
 M

 On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 10:52:20PM -0400, Jaime E Oliver wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  Whatever happened to the feature that let one edit message boxes as if
 with a text editor? I think I used to hit ctl+t in a message box and got a
 text editor-like window where you could move up and down rows and not only
 forward or backward one character at a time as with regular messages. Quite
 useful and haven't found it in a while. do i have the wrong command? or was
 this feature abandoned? (or never released?)
 
  best,
 
  J
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[PD] CreamLibrary makefile system

2014-09-28 Thread Antoine Villeret
Salut Pierre,

tout d'abord bravo pour ton travail sur les bibliothèques Cream et HOA !

Je suis très intéressé par les deux mais j'ai rencontré pas pas de
problèmes pour les utiliser avec Pd Vanilla 0.46, d'où les pull request que
tu as reçus via Github :-)

Aussi j'ai fait un système de Makefile pour Cream, que tu trouveras dans la
branche Makefile de mon fork sur github et aussi dans ce pull request :
https://github.com/CICM/CreamLibrary/pull/3.

Il n'est pas tout à fait fonctionnel à cause de petits problèmes dûs au nom
de la bibliothèque (sic).
Autotool n'aime pas les noms qui comprennent des points.
J'arrive donc à compiler la bibliothèque mais le système produit un
cream.l_ia64 en interne et fait un lien symbolique vers c.library.l_ia64.

On pourrait installer ce binaire avec ce nom mais ça demande à duper un peu
le système ce qui ne me plait pas trop...
Je voulais donc savoir s'il était éventuellement envisageable de renommer
le binaire cream.l_ia64 ?
Ça demande simplement de rajouter une méthode setup_cream() qui
appelle setup_c0x2elibrary();

Dis moi ce que t'en penses.

Je pense aussi faire le même genre de système pour hoa notamment pour
pouvoir plus facilement la compiler (et la crosscompiler) pour d'autres
architecture (arm notamment).

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Re: [PD] understanding [biquad~]

2014-09-28 Thread Scott R. Looney
hey there - not sure if this will help . it's from CCRMA's site referring
to a C based version of a biquad filter, but i imagine that functionally it
shouldn't be too far off:

https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jorgeh/projects/ass/ASStk/doc/com/australsounds/Filter/BiQuad.html

maybe this will help a bit?

best,
scott

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 Dear List !

 Can anyone help me with the understanding of [biquad~] filter ? No
 tutorials , no explanations found. The help file has very little info.

 What do coefficients mean ?

 Thanks.

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