[PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.49-0test2 released

[Miller Puckette]

To Pd-announce:

Pd version 0.49-0test2 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

This fixes a bug in the Macintosh version that crashed Pd, and several more
minor problems.

cheers
Miller



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Re: [PD] bug with edit-mode (was Re: [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released)

[Miller Puckette]

I bet this is related to the "save as" crash bug.  Are you on Mac OSX?
And... am I reading this correctly that you (1) open any patch; (2) open the
"properties" dialog for the canvas; (3) hit "OK" on the dialog, and then
you find out that the patch went into edit mode?

(And that it then crashes Pd to close the patch?)

thanks
Miller

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:08:30PM -0400, JTG III wrote:
> Okay I can can confirm that using donecanvasdialog is triggering the edit
> mode thing, though I'm not sure why there is no indication from pd upon
> loading a patch on startup that it is, in fact, in edit mode. I tried some
> patches made by other people, such as waveform.mmb or whatever it is
> called, and a couple of others and they all toggled edit mode on the parent
> patch.
> They also all cause pd to crash when the parent patch is closed. I didn't
> get any hints from the terminal but the script I usually use to start pd
> wasn't working for some reason and I have to head out again for an hour or
> two but I'll look into it more when I get back.
> 
> On Sep 11, 2018 6:01 PM, "JTG III"  wrote:
> 
> > Well I know that the canvas is in edit mode as anytime I try to click
> > anything I end up grabbing something and resizing it instead, and toggling
> > edit mode on and off in the edit menu makes it behave as expected. The
> > thing with having no indication of currently being in edit mode was only
> > happening when I would first open the patch, and as mentioned I could tell
> > that it was in fact on because whenever I would try to click on anything in
> > the PD window with the mouse the cursor would instead select or start
> > resizing whatever was beneath it.
> > Thinking about it now I figure it must have something to do with
> > donecanvasdialog, would that make sense? I'm not using any gui plugins and
> > no externals are interacting with the gui, but I am using a number of
> > structs. I'll check that in a couple of hours when I'm back at home.
> >
> > On Sep 11, 2018 9:11 AM, "IOhannes m zmoelnig"  wrote:
> >
> >> hi.
> >>
> >> thanks for the bug-report.
> >>
> >> unfortunately it indeed doesn't contain much information about what
> >> could be the actual problem you are experiencing.
> >>
> >> things i could establish:
> >> - your patches switch to edit-mode when they shouldn't
> >> - there is no indication of being in edit-mode
> >> - you accidentally resize GOPs
> >> - abstractions/subpatches send "messages"
> >> - you are using a number of externals
> >> - Pd sometimes crashes
> >> - the problem appears under Pd-0.49-0test1
> >> - everything works with Pd-0.48-2
> >> (i hope this is correct).
> >>
> >> so:
> >>
> >> how do you know that you are in edit-mode? what are the clues that make
> >> you believe that you end up in edit mode; what are the clues that are
> >> missing (so you don't immediately realize you are in edit mode)?
> >>
> >> what are these ominous "messages" being sent from abstractions/subpatches?
> >> in Pd you are always sending messages between objects; so there must be
> >> something special to yours. e.g. do they do some weirdo dynamic patching
> >> things?
> >>
> >> what externals are you using? do these externals interact with the GUI?
> >> are there any GUI-plugins involved?
> >>
> >> ghs,dr
> >> IOhannes
> >>
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Re: [PD] bug with edit-mode (was Re: [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released)

[JTG III]

Okay I can can confirm that using donecanvasdialog is triggering the edit
mode thing, though I'm not sure why there is no indication from pd upon
loading a patch on startup that it is, in fact, in edit mode. I tried some
patches made by other people, such as waveform.mmb or whatever it is
called, and a couple of others and they all toggled edit mode on the parent
patch.
They also all cause pd to crash when the parent patch is closed. I didn't
get any hints from the terminal but the script I usually use to start pd
wasn't working for some reason and I have to head out again for an hour or
two but I'll look into it more when I get back.

On Sep 11, 2018 6:01 PM, "JTG III"  wrote:

> Well I know that the canvas is in edit mode as anytime I try to click
> anything I end up grabbing something and resizing it instead, and toggling
> edit mode on and off in the edit menu makes it behave as expected. The
> thing with having no indication of currently being in edit mode was only
> happening when I would first open the patch, and as mentioned I could tell
> that it was in fact on because whenever I would try to click on anything in
> the PD window with the mouse the cursor would instead select or start
> resizing whatever was beneath it.
> Thinking about it now I figure it must have something to do with
> donecanvasdialog, would that make sense? I'm not using any gui plugins and
> no externals are interacting with the gui, but I am using a number of
> structs. I'll check that in a couple of hours when I'm back at home.
>
> On Sep 11, 2018 9:11 AM, "IOhannes m zmoelnig"  wrote:
>
>> hi.
>>
>> thanks for the bug-report.
>>
>> unfortunately it indeed doesn't contain much information about what
>> could be the actual problem you are experiencing.
>>
>> things i could establish:
>> - your patches switch to edit-mode when they shouldn't
>> - there is no indication of being in edit-mode
>> - you accidentally resize GOPs
>> - abstractions/subpatches send "messages"
>> - you are using a number of externals
>> - Pd sometimes crashes
>> - the problem appears under Pd-0.49-0test1
>> - everything works with Pd-0.48-2
>> (i hope this is correct).
>>
>> so:
>>
>> how do you know that you are in edit-mode? what are the clues that make
>> you believe that you end up in edit mode; what are the clues that are
>> missing (so you don't immediately realize you are in edit mode)?
>>
>> what are these ominous "messages" being sent from abstractions/subpatches?
>> in Pd you are always sending messages between objects; so there must be
>> something special to yours. e.g. do they do some weirdo dynamic patching
>> things?
>>
>> what externals are you using? do these externals interact with the GUI?
>> are there any GUI-plugins involved?
>>
>> ghs,dr
>> IOhannes
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] bug with edit-mode (was Re: [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released)

[JTG III]

Well I know that the canvas is in edit mode as anytime I try to click
anything I end up grabbing something and resizing it instead, and toggling
edit mode on and off in the edit menu makes it behave as expected. The
thing with having no indication of currently being in edit mode was only
happening when I would first open the patch, and as mentioned I could tell
that it was in fact on because whenever I would try to click on anything in
the PD window with the mouse the cursor would instead select or start
resizing whatever was beneath it.
Thinking about it now I figure it must have something to do with
donecanvasdialog, would that make sense? I'm not using any gui plugins and
no externals are interacting with the gui, but I am using a number of
structs. I'll check that in a couple of hours when I'm back at home.

On Sep 11, 2018 9:11 AM, "IOhannes m zmoelnig"  wrote:

> hi.
>
> thanks for the bug-report.
>
> unfortunately it indeed doesn't contain much information about what
> could be the actual problem you are experiencing.
>
> things i could establish:
> - your patches switch to edit-mode when they shouldn't
> - there is no indication of being in edit-mode
> - you accidentally resize GOPs
> - abstractions/subpatches send "messages"
> - you are using a number of externals
> - Pd sometimes crashes
> - the problem appears under Pd-0.49-0test1
> - everything works with Pd-0.48-2
> (i hope this is correct).
>
> so:
>
> how do you know that you are in edit-mode? what are the clues that make
> you believe that you end up in edit mode; what are the clues that are
> missing (so you don't immediately realize you are in edit mode)?
>
> what are these ominous "messages" being sent from abstractions/subpatches?
> in Pd you are always sending messages between objects; so there must be
> something special to yours. e.g. do they do some weirdo dynamic patching
> things?
>
> what externals are you using? do these externals interact with the GUI?
> are there any GUI-plugins involved?
>
> ghs,dr
> IOhannes
>
>
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Re: [PD] 0.49-0test1 multiple lib loading? was PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Dan Wilcox]

The updated help patch ... ?

> On Sep 11, 2018, at 11:44 PM, Matt Davey  wrote:
> 
> Is there a clear and detailed explanation somewhere of how all the -lib and 
> -path stuff works with [declare] and [import] yet?
> 


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Re: [PD] 0.49-0test1 multiple lib loading? was PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Matt Davey]

Is there a clear and detailed explanation somewhere of how all the -lib and
-path stuff works with [declare] and [import] yet?
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Re: [PD] 0.49-0test1 multiple lib loading? was PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Dan Wilcox]

Indeed the simplest solution is to remove the error print. I'm not sure much is 
lost by doing so, unless I'm mistaken.

Pd devs: The other option would be to add a check to sys_onloadlist(classname) 
before calls to sys_load_lib(classname), however that's basically equivalent to 
sys_load_lib not printing the error after it's internal check with 
sys_onloadlist...

> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:05 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> From: Liam Goodacre mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com>>
> Cc: Pd-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] 0.49-0test1 multiple lib loading? was PD 0.49-0test1
>   released
> Message-ID:
>   
>   
> >
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> I do have more than one copy of Zexy lying around, but I don't think that's 
> what's going on here. I've cleared all my search paths, so the only thing 
> that it recognizes should be the Externals Install Directory (Pd/externals). 
> I create one object [declare -lib zexy] and zexy loads. I create another 
> [declare -lib zexy] object and I get the error message. Of course it's no use 
> having two [declare] objects in the same patch, but it's very common to have 
> them multiply loaded within abstractions, which is what is triggering it for 
> me.
> 
> Wouldn't it be possible just to withhold this error message? I can't see why 
> it would be useful in the first place.


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Re: [PD] audio reconnect was PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Dan Wilcox]

I'm not seeing any of this behavior on macOS. Pd doesn't hang when I unplug my 
USB audio interface, but it doesn't reconnect or print an error. Trying to 
reselect it in the audio dialog leads to a hang where the GUI is somewhat 
responsive but the core is obviously stuck.

> On Sep 11, 2018, at 9:13 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 21:12:51 +0200
> From: "Christof Ressi" mailto:christof.re...@gmx.at>>
> To: "Lucas Cordiviola" mailto:lucard...@hotmail.com>>
> Cc: "pd-lista puredata" mailto:pd-l...@iem.at>>
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
> Message-ID:
>   
> 
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> 
> thanks for testing! seems like it works fine on Windows. BTW, one big fix I 
> made is that if the audio device gets disconnected (for whatever reason), Pd 
> will not hang but instead try to reconnect and if that fails, close the 
> device gracefully and post an error. if you feel like, you can try it out: 
> 
> a) just unplug the USB cable and quickly (within about a second) plug it back 
> in: Pd should automatically reconnect. 
> b) if you leave it unplugged for a bit longer, Pd will print an error. now 
> plug the cable back in and toggle DSP off/on: the device should be connected 
> again.
> 
> Christof


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Christof Ressi]

*sigh of relief*

> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 21:21 Uhr
> Von: "Lucas Cordiviola" 
> An: "Christof Ressi" 
> Cc: "pd-lista puredata" 
> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>
> Cool, is working.
> 
> a) and b) are happening as you describe them with an Tascam US-4x4 with 
> ASIO.
> 
> 
> :)
> 
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
> 
> On 9/11/2018 4:12 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
> > thanks for testing! seems like it works fine on Windows. BTW, one big fix I 
> > made is that if the audio device gets disconnected (for whatever reason), 
> > Pd will not hang but instead try to reconnect and if that fails, close the 
> > device gracefully and post an error. if you feel like, you can try it out:
> >
> > a) just unplug the USB cable and quickly (within about a second) plug it 
> > back in: Pd should automatically reconnect.
> > b) if you leave it unplugged for a bit longer, Pd will print an error. now 
> > plug the cable back in and toggle DSP off/on: the device should be 
> > connected again.
> >
> > Christof
> >
> >> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 21:04 Uhr
> >> Von: "Lucas Cordiviola" 
> >> An: "Christof Ressi" 
> >> Cc: "pd-lista puredata" 
> >> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
> >>
> >> Hi Christof,
> >>
> >> I think is an OSX issue. Here everything is right on MMIO or ASIO.
> >>
> >> NOTE: I'm only using the 64bit Pd. Both distributions on Miller's site
> >> are 64bit. (I also checked the http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/ list of files)
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
> >>
> >> On 9/11/2018 1:57 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
> >>> Hi Lucas,
> >>>
> >>> since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 
> >>> 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.
> >>>
> >>> Christof
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr
> >>> Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" 
> >>> An: "pd-lista puredata" 
> >>> Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
> >>>
> >>> I'm having issues with the test version: 
> >>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
> >>>
> >>> anyone else?
> >>>
> >>> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
> >>> mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:
> >>>
> >>> hello, one question i always forget to ask:
> >>>
> >>> Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
> >>>
> >>> it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
> >>>
> >>> (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
> >>> mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, 
> >>> you can read about all the new commands here
> >>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374]
> >>>
> >>> And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in 
> >>> an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap 
> >>> connections to organize all the cords after)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
> >>> mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
> >>>
> >>> I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] 
> >>> and backslashes are really great additions.
> >>>
> >>> Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that 
> >>> they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] 
> >>> in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are 
> >>> the backslashes working as intended? If I print [\; \; \$ \$ \, \,( I get 
> >>> "; \\; $ $ \\, \\,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, 
> >>> but this output seems confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new 
> >>> intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be 
> >>> able to study it in more detail.
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> From: Pd-list 
> >>> mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at]> on 
> >>> behalf of Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu]>
> >>> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23
> >>> To: pd-annou...@iem.at[mailto:pd-annou...@iem.at]
> >>> Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
> >>> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm[http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm]
> >>> or (source only) via github: 
> >>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data]
> >>>
> >>> cheers
> >>> Miller
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Cool, is working.

a) and b) are happening as you describe them with an Tascam US-4x4 with 
ASIO.


:)

Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.

On 9/11/2018 4:12 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
> thanks for testing! seems like it works fine on Windows. BTW, one big fix I 
> made is that if the audio device gets disconnected (for whatever reason), Pd 
> will not hang but instead try to reconnect and if that fails, close the 
> device gracefully and post an error. if you feel like, you can try it out:
>
> a) just unplug the USB cable and quickly (within about a second) plug it back 
> in: Pd should automatically reconnect.
> b) if you leave it unplugged for a bit longer, Pd will print an error. now 
> plug the cable back in and toggle DSP off/on: the device should be connected 
> again.
>
> Christof
>
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 21:04 Uhr
>> Von: "Lucas Cordiviola" 
>> An: "Christof Ressi" 
>> Cc: "pd-lista puredata" 
>> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>>
>> Hi Christof,
>>
>> I think is an OSX issue. Here everything is right on MMIO or ASIO.
>>
>> NOTE: I'm only using the 64bit Pd. Both distributions on Miller's site
>> are 64bit. (I also checked the http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/ list of files)
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
>>
>> On 9/11/2018 1:57 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
>>> Hi Lucas,
>>>
>>> since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 
>>> 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.
>>>
>>> Christof
>>>
>>>
>>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr
>>> Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" 
>>> An: "pd-lista puredata" 
>>> Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>>>
>>> I'm having issues with the test version: 
>>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
>>>
>>> anyone else?
>>>
>>> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
>>> mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:
>>>
>>> hello, one question i always forget to ask:
>>>
>>> Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
>>>
>>> it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
>>>
>>> (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
>>> mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you 
>>> can read about all the new commands here
>>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374]
>>>
>>> And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in 
>>> an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap 
>>> connections to organize all the cords after)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
>>> mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
>>>
>>> I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and 
>>> backslashes are really great additions.
>>>
>>> Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that 
>>> they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in 
>>> it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the 
>>> backslashes working as intended? If I print [\; \; \$ \$ \, \,( I get "; 
>>> \\; $ $ \\, \\,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but 
>>> this output seems confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent 
>>> patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study 
>>> it in more detail.
>>> 
>>>
>>> From: Pd-list 
>>> mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at]> on 
>>> behalf of Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu]>
>>> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23
>>> To: pd-annou...@iem.at[mailto:pd-annou...@iem.at]
>>> Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>>>
>>>
>>> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
>>> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm[http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm]
>>> or (source only) via github: 
>>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data]
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Miller
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Christof Ressi]

thanks for testing! seems like it works fine on Windows. BTW, one big fix I 
made is that if the audio device gets disconnected (for whatever reason), Pd 
will not hang but instead try to reconnect and if that fails, close the device 
gracefully and post an error. if you feel like, you can try it out: 

a) just unplug the USB cable and quickly (within about a second) plug it back 
in: Pd should automatically reconnect. 
b) if you leave it unplugged for a bit longer, Pd will print an error. now plug 
the cable back in and toggle DSP off/on: the device should be connected again.

Christof

> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 21:04 Uhr
> Von: "Lucas Cordiviola" 
> An: "Christof Ressi" 
> Cc: "pd-lista puredata" 
> Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>
> Hi Christof,
> 
> I think is an OSX issue. Here everything is right on MMIO or ASIO.
> 
> NOTE: I'm only using the 64bit Pd. Both distributions on Miller's site 
> are 64bit. (I also checked the http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/ list of files)
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
> 
> On 9/11/2018 1:57 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
> > Hi Lucas,
> >
> > since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 
> > 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.
> >
> > Christof
> >   
> >
> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr
> > Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" 
> > An: "pd-lista puredata" 
> > Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
> >
> > I'm having issues with the test version: 
> > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
> >   
> > anyone else?
> >
> > Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
> > mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:
> >
> > hello, one question i always forget to ask:
> >   
> > Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
> >   
> > it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
> >   
> > (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
> >   
> >   
> >
> > Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
> > mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you 
> > can read about all the new commands here
> > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374]
> >   
> > And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in 
> > an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap 
> > connections to organize all the cords after)
> >   
> >   
> >
> >   
> >   
> >
> > Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
> > mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
> >
> > I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and 
> > backslashes are really great additions.
> >   
> > Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
> >   
> >
> > I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that 
> > they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in 
> > it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the 
> > backslashes working as intended? If I print [\; \; \$ \$ \, \,( I get "; 
> > \\; $ $ \\, \\,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but 
> > this output seems confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent 
> > patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study 
> > it in more detail.
> > 
> >
> > From: Pd-list 
> > mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at]> on 
> > behalf of Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu]>
> > Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23
> > To: pd-annou...@iem.at[mailto:pd-annou...@iem.at]
> > Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
> >   
> >
> > The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
> > http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm[http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm]
> > or (source only) via github: 
> > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data]
> >
> > cheers
> > Miller
> >
> >
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Hi Miller,

Both Windows distributions of 0.49-0test1 on your site are 64-bit.

Is not an html link mistake. I also cheked the files listed on 
http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/

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On 9/11/2018 2:23 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Christof Ressi]

> On Win7 with internal sound card, ASIO test tone 440Hz sounds all wrong

wait... which ASIO driver are you using? if you use ASIO (portaudio) without an 
actual ASIO driver (or a fake driver like ASIO4ALL) the slowly rotating farting 
dinosaur is expected behaviour :-) (I just listened to the sound and would have 
never come up with such a marvelous description).

just for the record: Lucas and Henri told me, sound is working fine for them, 
so I think at least I didn't introduce a regression on Windows.

Christof
 
 

Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 19:06 Uhr
Von: "Martin Peach" 
An: "Alexandre Torres Porres" 
Cc: "PD List send" 
Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:40 PM Alexandre Torres Porres 
mailto:por...@gmail.com]> wrote:

I'm having issues with the test version: 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443]
 
anyone else?
 
On Win7 with internal sound card, ASIO test tone 440Hz sounds all wrong, sort 
of like a slowly rotating farting dinosaur.
MMIO works fine.
 
Martin.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:

hello, one question i always forget to ask:
 
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
 
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
 
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
 
 

Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can 
read about all the new commands here 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374]
 
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an 
object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to 
organize all the cords after)
 
 

 
 

Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com]> escreveu:

I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and 
backslashes are really great additions.
 
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
 

I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that they 
come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is 
this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the backslashes 
working as intended? If I print [\; \; \$ \$ \, \,( I get "; \\; $ $ \\, \\,". 
I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems 
confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've 
seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.


From: Pd-list 
mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at]> on behalf 
of Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu]>
Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23
To: pd-annou...@iem.at[mailto:pd-annou...@iem.at]
Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
 

The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm[http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm]
or (source only) via github: 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data]

cheers
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Lucas Cordiviola]

Hi Christof,

I think is an OSX issue. Here everything is right on MMIO or ASIO.

NOTE: I'm only using the 64bit Pd. Both distributions on Miller's site 
are 64bit. (I also checked the http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/ list of files)


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On 9/11/2018 1:57 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
> Hi Lucas,
>
> since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 
> 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.
>
> Christof
>   
>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr
> Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" 
> An: "pd-lista puredata" 
> Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>
> I'm having issues with the test version: 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
>   
> anyone else?
>
> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
> mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:
>
> hello, one question i always forget to ask:
>   
> Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
>   
> it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
>   
> (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
>   
>   
>
> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
> mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you 
> can read about all the new commands here
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374]
>   
> And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an 
> object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to 
> organize all the cords after)
>   
>   
>
>   
>   
>
> Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
> mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
>
> I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and 
> backslashes are really great additions.
>   
> Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
>   
>
> I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that 
> they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in 
> it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the 
> backslashes working as intended? If I print [\; \; \$ \$ \, \,( I get "; \\; 
> $ $ \\, \\,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this 
> output seems confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching 
> features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more 
> detail.
> 
>
> From: Pd-list 
> mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at]> on behalf 
> of Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu]>
> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23
> To: pd-annou...@iem.at[mailto:pd-annou...@iem.at]
> Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>   
>
> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm[http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm]
> or (source only) via github: 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data]
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
>
>
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Re: [PD] 0.49-0test1 multiple lib loading? was PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Liam Goodacre]

I do have more than one copy of Zexy lying around, but I don't think that's 
what's going on here. I've cleared all my search paths, so the only thing that 
it recognizes should be the Externals Install Directory (Pd/externals). I 
create one object [declare -lib zexy] and zexy loads. I create another [declare 
-lib zexy] object and I get the error message. Of course it's no use having two 
[declare] objects in the same patch, but it's very common to have them multiply 
loaded within abstractions, which is what is triggering it for me.

Wouldn't it be possible just to withhold this error message? I can't see why it 
would be useful in the first place.

From: Dan Wilcox 
Sent: 11 September 2018 16:44
To: Liam Goodacre
Cc: Pd-List
Subject: Re: [PD] 0.49-0test1 multiple lib loading? was PD 0.49-0test1 released

Do you have more than 1 copy of zexy in your paths? The main change is that 
-path and -lib now also search user and the pd "standard paths." See 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/205

On Sep 11, 2018, at 4:34 PM, 
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mailto:pd-l...@iem.at>>
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and 
backslashes are really great additions.

Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.


 1.  I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that 
they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. 
Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?


Dan Wilcox
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Max]

Amazing, I want to hear that now.


On 11.09.2018 19:06, Martin Peach wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:40 PM Alexandre Torres Porres 
mailto:por...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I'm having issues with the test version:
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443

anyone else?


On Win7 with internal sound card, ASIO test tone 440Hz sounds all wrong, 
sort of like a slowly rotating farting dinosaur.

MMIO works fine.

Martin.






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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Henri Augusto Bisognini]

You mean if this issue is happening?

https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443

No it doesn't :)
Or are you facing other kind of problem? Using Asio can be somewhat tricky 
sometimes.

Henri.


De: Christof Ressi 
Enviado: terça-feira, 11 de setembro de 2018 14:06
Para: msndohe...@hotmail.com
Assunto: Fw: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

Hi Henri, since you are on Windows, the same question goes to you (see below).

Thanks! Christof

> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:57 Uhr
> Von: "Christof Ressi" 
> An: "Lucas Cordiviola" 
> Cc: "pd-lista puredata" 
> Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>
> Hi Lucas,
>
> since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 
> 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.
>
> Christof
>
>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr
> Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" 
> An: "pd-lista puredata" 
> Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>
> I'm having issues with the test version: 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
>
> anyone else?
>
> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
> mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:
>
> hello, one question i always forget to ask:
>
> Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
>
> it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
>
> (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
>
>
>
> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
> mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you 
> can read about all the new commands here
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374]
>
> And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an 
> object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to 
> organize all the cords after)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
> mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
>
> I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and 
> backslashes are really great additions.
>
> Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
>
>
> I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that 
> they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in 
> it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the 
> backslashes working as intended? If I print [\; \; \$ \$ \, \,( I get "; \\; 
> $ $ \\, \\,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this 
> output seems confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching 
> features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more 
> detail.
> 
>
> From: Pd-list 
> mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at]> on behalf 
> of Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu]>
> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23
> To: pd-annou...@iem.at[mailto:pd-annou...@iem.at]
> Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>
>
> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm[http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm]
> or (source only) via github: 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data]
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
>
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Antoine Rousseau]

>
> slowly rotating farting dinosaur


sound great! please send a recording!

Antoine Rousseau
  http://www.metalu.net  __
http://www.metaluachahuter.com/




Le mar. 11 sept. 2018 à 19:06, Martin Peach  a
écrit :

> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:40 PM Alexandre Torres Porres 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm having issues with the test version:
>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
>>
>> anyone else?
>>
>>
> On Win7 with internal sound card, ASIO test tone 440Hz sounds all wrong,
> sort of like a slowly rotating farting dinosaur.
> MMIO works fine.
>
> Martin.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> hello, one question i always forget to ask:
>>>
>>> Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
>>>
>>> it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
>>>
>>> (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
>>>
>>>
>>> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu <
>>> abreubace...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>
 Liam, you can read about all the new commands here

 https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374

>>>
>>> And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t
>>> in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap
>>> connections to organize all the cords after)
>>>
>>>
>>>


 Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
 escreveu:

> I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing,
> [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
>
> Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with
> it.
>
>
>1. I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It
>seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with 
> [declare
>-lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare]
>changed?
>2. Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print *[\; \; \$
>\$ \, \,(* I get "*; \\; $ $ \\, \\,*". I'm not sure what the
>exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.
>
> Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've
> seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
> --
> *From:* Pd-list  on behalf of Miller
> Puckette 
> *Sent:* 11 September 2018 06:23
> *To:* pd-annou...@iem.at
> *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>
> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
>
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Re: [PD] hsl binding was PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Dan Wilcox]

I attempted to make the key bindings the same across all platforms.

SHIFT+CTL+H works fine on Windows and Linux, but SHIFT+CMD+H invokes the macOS 
window manager's CMD+H bindings which *hides* the window. That's pretty 
annoying and there wasn't a way to avoid it, other than to avoid bindings to 
CMD+H* altogether. In my thinking, having the same mental binding when 
switching between platforms was more of a positive over the slight loss of H = 
"hsl".

> On Sep 11, 2018, at 6:39 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
> 
> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 12:53:42 -0300
> From: José de Abreu mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com>>
> To: "pd-l...@iem.at "  >
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
> Message-ID:
>>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> hello, one question i always forget to ask:
> 
> Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
> 
> it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
> 
> (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)


Dan Wilcox
@danomatika 
danomatika.com 
robotcowboy.com 



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Martin Peach]

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:40 PM Alexandre Torres Porres 
wrote:

> I'm having issues with the test version:
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
>
> anyone else?
>
>
On Win7 with internal sound card, ASIO test tone 440Hz sounds all wrong,
sort of like a slowly rotating farting dinosaur.
MMIO works fine.

Martin.
















> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
> escreveu:
>
>> hello, one question i always forget to ask:
>>
>> Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
>>
>> it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
>>
>> (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
>>
>>
>> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Liam, you can read about all the new commands here
>>>
>>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374
>>>
>>
>> And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in
>> an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap
>> connections to organize all the cords after)
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
>>> escreveu:
>>>
 I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate]
 and backslashes are really great additions.

 Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with
 it.


1. I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It
seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare
-lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare]
changed?
2. Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print *[\; \; \$
\$ \, \,(* I get "*; \\; $ $ \\, \\,*". I'm not sure what the exact
usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.

 Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've
 seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
 --
 *From:* Pd-list  on behalf of Miller
 Puckette 
 *Sent:* 11 September 2018 06:23
 *To:* pd-annou...@iem.at
 *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

 The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on
 http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
 or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

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Re: [PD] PD 0.49-0test1 released - Comments

[Henri Augusto Bisognini]

Hi!

I've been testing the intelligent patching features on Win7 and everything is 
working! It's one of those stuff that can really make you a happier programmer.

Just some comments on stuff:

  1.  I've noticed that PD can't find the help file for [savestate]. I could 
find it on github [1] but it seems it didn't came with the 0.49-0test1 version. 
At least it's not present on the "doc/5.reference" folder.
  2.  just a tiny detail but the help patch of pointer still says "updated for 
Pd version 0.48"
  3.  An enchancement idea for the fan out. Currently the fan out (when you 
select multiple destination objects and connect a single object to one of them) 
the connections are made according to the creation order of the objects (that 
becomes evident when you triggerize). Maybe PD could do it in right-to-left 
order.


I think this release is big. With all of those new features i don't think I'm 
ever sleeping again.

Henri.

[1] 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/80b3891537bb3e30e18228afb54858c62c35e9e5/doc/5.reference/savestate-help.pd




De: Pd-list  em nome de Miller Puckette 

Enviado: terça-feira, 11 de setembro de 2018 02:23
Para: pd-annou...@iem.at
Assunto: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Christof Ressi]

Hi Lucas,

since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 
0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.

Christof
 

Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr
Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" 
An: "pd-lista puredata" 
Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

I'm having issues with the test version: 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
 
anyone else? 

Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:

hello, one question i always forget to ask:
 
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
 
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
 
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
 
 

Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can 
read about all the new commands here 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374]
 
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an 
object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to 
organize all the cords after)
 
 

 
 

Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com]> escreveu:

I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and 
backslashes are really great additions.
 
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
 

I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that they 
come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is 
this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the backslashes 
working as intended? If I print [\; \; \$ \$ \, \,( I get "; \\; $ $ \\, \\,". 
I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems 
confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've 
seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.


From: Pd-list 
mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at]> on behalf 
of Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu]>
Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23
To: pd-annou...@iem.at[mailto:pd-annou...@iem.at]
Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
 

The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm[http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm]
or (source only) via github: 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data]

cheers
Miller



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Christof Ressi]

that was me... this fixed a problem with portaudio on Windows but might have 
caused a regression on OSX. let's move the discussion to the issue. in the 
worst case, I have to #ifdef the whole fix to only apply it to Windows.

Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr
Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" 
An: "pd-lista puredata" 
Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

I'm having issues with the test version: 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
 
anyone else? 

Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:

hello, one question i always forget to ask:
 
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
 
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
 
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
 
 

Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can 
read about all the new commands here 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374]
 
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an 
object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to 
organize all the cords after)
 
 

 
 

Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com]> escreveu:

I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and 
backslashes are really great additions.
 
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
 

I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that they 
come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is 
this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the backslashes 
working as intended? If I print [\; \; \$ \$ \, \,( I get "; \\; $ $ \\, \\,". 
I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems 
confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've 
seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.


From: Pd-list 
mailto:pd-list-boun...@lists.iem.at]> on behalf 
of Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu]>
Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23
To: pd-annou...@iem.at[mailto:pd-annou...@iem.at]
Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
 

The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm[http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm]
or (source only) via github: 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data[https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data]

cheers
Miller



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

I'm having issues with the test version:
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443

anyone else?

Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu 
escreveu:

> hello, one question i always forget to ask:
>
> Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
>
> it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
>
> (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
>
>
> Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
> escreveu:
>
>> Liam, you can read about all the new commands here
>>
>> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374
>>
>
> And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in
> an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap
> connections to organize all the cords after)
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate]
>>> and backslashes are really great additions.
>>>
>>> Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with
>>> it.
>>>
>>>
>>>1. I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It
>>>seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare
>>>-lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare]
>>>changed?
>>>2. Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print *[\; \; \$ \$
>>>\, \,(* I get "*; \\; $ $ \\, \\,*". I'm not sure what the exact
>>>usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.
>>>
>>> Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've
>>> seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
>>> --
>>> *From:* Pd-list  on behalf of Miller
>>> Puckette 
>>> *Sent:* 11 September 2018 06:23
>>> *To:* pd-annou...@iem.at
>>> *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>>>
>>> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on
>>> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
>>> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> Miller
>>>
>>>
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[PD] Ctrl-Shift-H (was Re: [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released)

[IOhannes m zmölnig]

On 9/11/18 5:53 PM, José de Abreu wrote:
> hello, one question i always forget to ask:
> 
> Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
> 
> it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
> 
> (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)

the shortcut was changed because:
- we want the same shortcuts on all platforms
- on OSX, ctrl+shift+h would minimize the window :-(

https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/commit/0c699ad6



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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[José de Abreu]

hello, one question i always forget to ask:

Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?

it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j

(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)


Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu 
escreveu:

> Liam, you can read about all the new commands here
>
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374
>

And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in
an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap
connections to organize all the cords after)



>
>
> Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
> escreveu:
>
>> I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate]
>> and backslashes are really great additions.
>>
>> Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
>>
>>
>>1. I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It
>>seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare
>>-lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare]
>>changed?
>>2. Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print *[\; \; \$ \$
>>\, \,(* I get "*; \\; $ $ \\, \\,*". I'm not sure what the exact
>>usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.
>>
>> Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've
>> seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
>> --
>> *From:* Pd-list  on behalf of Miller
>> Puckette 
>> *Sent:* 11 September 2018 06:23
>> *To:* pd-annou...@iem.at
>> *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>>
>> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on
>> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
>> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>>
>> cheers
>> Miller
>>
>>
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Re: [PD] 0.49-0test1 multiple lib loading? was PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Dan Wilcox]

Do you have more than 1 copy of zexy in your paths? The main change is that 
-path and -lib now also search user and the pd "standard paths." See 
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/205 


> On Sep 11, 2018, at 4:34 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
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> From: Liam Goodacre mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com>>
> To: "pd-l...@iem.at "  >
> Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
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> I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and 
> backslashes are really great additions.
> 
> Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
> 
> 
>  1.  I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems 
> that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] 
> in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?


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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Dan Wilcox]

Liam has a good point. Maybe this info can be added to the manual?

> On Sep 11, 2018, at 5:14 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
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> From: José de Abreu mailto:abreubace...@gmail.com>>
> To: Liam Goodacre mailto:liamg...@hotmail.com>>
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> Liam, you can read about all the new commands here
> 
> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374 
> 

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[José de Abreu]

Liam, you can read about all the new commands here

https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374


Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre 
escreveu:

> I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate]
> and backslashes are really great additions.
>
> Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
>
>
>1. I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It
>seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare
>-lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare]
>changed?
>2. Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print *[\; \; \$ \$
>\, \,(* I get "*; \\; $ $ \\, \\,*". I'm not sure what the exact usage
>is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.
>
> Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen
> the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
> --
> *From:* Pd-list  on behalf of Miller
> Puckette 
> *Sent:* 11 September 2018 06:23
> *To:* pd-annou...@iem.at
> *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
>
> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>
> cheers
> Miller
>
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[PD] [PD-announce] Reminder: Call for Participation - ALMAT Workshop @ Impuls, Academy 2019

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

ALMAT - "Algorithms That Matter" Workshop at the
impuls 11th International Ensemble and Composers Academy for
Contemporary Music 2019

Special workshop for computer music practitioners, sound artists and
composers

Call for Participation Deadline: October 1st, 2018

with Robin Minard, David Pirrò, Hanns Holger Rutz

http://www.impuls.cc/academy-2019/special-programs.html#c5169

[please distribute]

Algorithms that Matter (ALMAT) focuses on the experimentation with
algorithms and their embedding in sound works. Rather than conceiving
algorithms as established building blocks or the a priori
formalisation of a compositional idea, we look at them as performing
entities whose consequences are irreducible to models. Algorithms
“matter” in the sense that matter and meaning cannot be distinguished,
neither can artists and their computational tools. Algorithms actively
produce spaces and temporalities which become entangled with their
physical embeddings.

The 2019 edition of the workshop focuses on the development of a
site-specific sound installation. The installation will explore the
interactions of algorithmic and physical spaces and their dynamic and
mutable properties. Participants will work on the premise that spaces
and our perception of them change depending on presence, absence, the
movement of visitors, the time of the day, the rhythm of the
surroundings as well as the sonic and algorithmic interventions we
bring into them.

This workshop seeks to attract computer music practitioners, sound
artists and composers by offering a platform for exchange and
reflection about their personal approaches towards algorithmic
experimentation. The participants are invited to develop their various
approaches within an atmosphere of collaboration, where special
emphasis will be given to the translation of environmental data (such
as sensor input from the surroundings and visitors) through computer
music systems developed and assembled by the participants and
tutors. One question we want to pursue is how behaviours can be
composed that transition from "technical and artificial" to "organic
and alive", particularly through the articulation of spatiality.

The workshop starts with an internal presentation of the participants
for the other participants and tutors. An initial sound situation
using a large number of small reconfigurable speakers forms the
starting point for in-situ work. This structure will then be available
for decomposition and rearrangement by the participants. The space
will become a public exhibition halfway through the workshop, making
it possible to observe and adapt to the interactions with the
audience, a central question in the making of sound installations.
The workshop will be held with technical infrastructure provided by
the Institute for Electronic Music and Acoustics (IEM), including an
48-channel sound system and a selection of sensors. The workshop
ALMAT was developed by David Pirrò and Hanns Holger Rutz (both IEM
Graz) and will be held together with the special support by Robin
Minard.

How to apply:
1.) First, you must register and be accepted as a participant of the
impuls Academy 2019.

2.) Along with your application, you must submit a statement
concerning your specific interest in participating in the ALMAT
Workshop or send this by e-mail to office(at)impuls(dot)cc.

3.) In addition, please send a description of your personal work in
relation to the workshop's theme stating your previous experiences and
describing employed computational approaches, their aesthetic





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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Alexandre Torres Porres]

awesome, we got like what, 2 weeks until a final version? :)

Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 02:24, Miller Puckette  escreveu:

> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>
> cheers
> Miller
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[Liam Goodacre]

I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and 
backslashes are really great additions.

Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.


  1.  I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that 
they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. 
Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?
  2.  Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print [\; \; \$ \$ \, \,( I 
get "; \\; $ $ \\, \\,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, 
but this output seems confusing.

Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the 
videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.

From: Pd-list  on behalf of Miller Puckette 

Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23
To: pd-annou...@iem.at
Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on 
http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data

cheers
Miller



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[PD] bug with edit-mode (was Re: [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released)

[IOhannes m zmoelnig]

hi.

thanks for the bug-report.

unfortunately it indeed doesn't contain much information about what
could be the actual problem you are experiencing.

things i could establish:
- your patches switch to edit-mode when they shouldn't
- there is no indication of being in edit-mode
- you accidentally resize GOPs
- abstractions/subpatches send "messages"
- you are using a number of externals
- Pd sometimes crashes
- the problem appears under Pd-0.49-0test1
- everything works with Pd-0.48-2
(i hope this is correct).

so:

how do you know that you are in edit-mode? what are the clues that make
you believe that you end up in edit mode; what are the clues that are
missing (so you don't immediately realize you are in edit mode)?

what are these ominous "messages" being sent from abstractions/subpatches?
in Pd you are always sending messages between objects; so there must be
something special to yours. e.g. do they do some weirdo dynamic patching
things?

what externals are you using? do these externals interact with the GUI?
are there any GUI-plugins involved?

ghs,dr
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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released

[JTG III]

So, this seems to be a thing: Something i'm doing in this patch/system of
patches I've been working on for the last year or so keeps making the
canvas switch into edit mode automatically, including right when I open it
up in which case the window gives no indication of actually being in edit
mode--I had to go turn it on in the edit menu first because it's not
reporting being in edit mode there either, before I can turn it off. It's
possible that I could have been able to toggle it off from the keyboard
menu, I didn't really think to try because I was confused as to what was
happening as I couldn't see any indication that edit mode was on, yet I
kept resizing/breaking gop and data structure canvases whenever I'd click
on anything.
My patch is way too big and confusing to share, but it seems to be somehow
related to messages sent from various subpatches/abstractions when whatever
task is being performed inside is completed. I don't have the time to try
to figure anything out right now, and my attempts to do so in the last hour
or so kept on getting foiled by PD crashing periodically. That could be
related to externals I'm using or something, maybe, but the automatic
switching into edit mode seemed to be originating from something more
Vanilla.
To avoid any further outbursts directed against the mouse or keyboard, I've
switched back to 0.48-2 and things are working normally again, but if need
be I could try to pinpoint the source of the issues some more--preferably
with some sort of hint as to what I should be looking for--when I get back
home later today.

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 1:24 AM Miller Puckette  wrote:

> The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on
> http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm
> or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
>
> cheers
> Miller
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