ah yes, that is even already the default. everything is working perfectly.
HI list. Hi João!
>
> Yes, you're correct. Indeed is now used by the core for
> object-cycling (since 0.50 if I recall correctly, I can't check the repo
> right now).
>
> You can go to *preferences->auto complete
Hello list,
I was trying the auto-completion plugin, but when I press tab, it just
closes the current object and jumps to the next one in cue. Is the
auto-completion plugin not working, or was tab "hijacked" by the pd-core,
so it's not possible to use it anymore?
The plugin is loading, the
this doesn't answer your question but: does my port of Henke's Granulator
[jmmmp/Granulator] improve your problem in any way?
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 at 15:25, i...@hansroels.be wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Hopefully people with more knowledge of audio processing can answer the
> following questions.
if multiarrays with data structures are necessary, they already exist in
[jmmmp/multiarray]
a choice between int and float types signed and unsigned without conversion
> is what you need
>
> Many scripting languages have a single number type. The only "problem"
> with Pd is that this number type
With best regards,
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> on their platform.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 2:04 AM João Pais wrote:
>
>> "my thing" is to make my program available to people who don't know what
>> pd, unix, or a terminal is and just want to play their instrument. the
ld make some money from it as well. That ecosystem right now is
> very healthy.
>
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2020 at 1:34 AM João Pais wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately that's not applicable in my case. Most musicians use
>> apple, and telling them all that will be met with a shr
> patched linux kernel on a 50 dollar ARM SBC and call it good.
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:53 AM João Pais wrote:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I'm preparing a package based on Pd work, but I run into annoying
>> problems with recent apple OSs, namely notarization
of these instructions:
>
> http://sites.music.columbia.edu/brad/osx-windows-new-RTcmixes/annoying.html
>
> to get around the STUPID ANNOYING STUPID OBNXIOUS Apple gatekeeper
> code-signing thing.
>
> brad
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 8:51 AM João Pais wrote:
>
Hi list,
I'm preparing a package based on Pd work, but I run into annoying problems
with recent apple OSs, namely notarization and security. Things seem to
work if the user commits to switching off all security protocols, but for
people who don't know Pd, they might be squeamish about this.
>
>
>
> From: João Pais [mailto:jmmmp...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2020 11:44 AM
> To: Ingo
> Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at
> Subject: Re: [PD] Fixed: menubutton bug ...
>
> maybe you can misuse [jmmmp/cellblock] for this
>
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 11
maybe you can misuse [jmmmp/cellblock] for this
On Mon, 14 Sep 2020 at 11:36, Ingo wrote:
> Hi Fred,
>
> [tof/menubutton] is a great extarnal !
>
> One thing that's on my wishlist which would be the ability to use columns.
> I need sometimes menus with more items that fit onto a single HDMI
sidestep, you can also use jmmmp/jp.menu (doesn't have the same features as
menubutton)
On Sat, 12 Sep 2020 at 11:17, oliver wrote:
> Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
> > Hi Oliver :)
> >
> > How about reporting to Fred at
> https://github.com/electrickery/pd-tof/issues
> >
>
> Hi, Lucas !
>
> Thanks
a new question: I have a german windows, but I prefer to have Pd in
english. For that, I use a batch script with "set LANG=en" when starting
Pd. Is that somehow possible with pd~, or it will always follow the OS
language?
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 09:57, João Pais wrote:
> seems t
seems to work, great.
But: would it make sense to have a -quiet flag where stdout text "pd~
version 0.53, start 1, start 2" doesn't appear - but this is a small
detail, it's also ok if they remain.
And, what do the "start" flags mean?
On Wed, 9 Sep 2020 at 00:04, Miller Puckette wrote:
> Yep,
is it possible to do it also in Pd itself? Probably that's why all this
time there was always an extra window when I run Pd.
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 20:20, Miller Puckette wrote:
> (It's just changing pd.com to pd.exe in the pd~ code. But meanwhile I'm
> trying also to fix the space-in-path
It's working on max 6, windows 7.
But: when I run with -nogui, the command window still appears. Is there a
way to avoid it that I never knew about?
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020 at 03:47, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
> Here's a version for Windows if anyone is willing to test:
>
>
> João, you say it can't "embed" and save contents with the patch, but
> [text] allows you to do so with the "-k" flag, why don't you use it?
>
[text define] is the base for [jp.coll], and it has to be created
dynamically at startup. also, apparently the contents are saved with the pd
file in a
>
> > And I would already have one suggestion: would it be possible to add
> > the -nogui or similar flags, so that Pd isn't visible when running?
> >
> you *can* start the sub-process with the -nogui flag.
>
strange, I tried both "pd~ start -nogui $1" and "pd~ start $1 -nogui" and
neither
The help patch works on w10 + m8 + pd0.51. Maybe the next days I can
test some other patches.
And I would already have one suggestion: would it be possible to add the
-nogui or similar flags, so that Pd isn't visible when running?
(one later question would be if it would be possible to pack
If a windows version is compiled, I can test it.
Only looking at the help patch, I wanted to ask: is it possible to send the
Pd app location as a message, so that the user doesn't have to do it?
OK, that was an ugly trip into MacOS-ness, but it's over for now at least...
>
> I've put a test
Even better: I just added jp.coll to jmmmp, so it's possible to have a
vanilla version of coll in pd in max.
On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 07:23, Alexandre Torres Porres
wrote:
> Wonderful, now people can finally use pd inside Max and use the Cyclone
> library!
>
> Em qua., 2 de set. de 2020 às 00:57,
060?fbclid=IwAR1AmnRc3wBfBjjdD0RjUtxIMFOJmMLrhfkpoAjXzJE_CyBg8zjywoI2y1s>
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is there any smart way of detecting if a [text define xxx] already exists?
I'm trying to create multiple abstractions dynamically, but wanted to avoid
having "multiply defined" errors.
The detection would have to be sent through messages, as an output to the
console won't help with the
Independent from that: you can install max 8 and just run it as demo, or
even edit patches without saving. Just for testing, you don't need to
get a license.
Joao
I have remote access to a mac with Max 7 on it, and I've been meaning at least
to get pd~ running on that. We don't have Max 8
Btw, any news on this old thread?
I gave it a try but couldn't get it working right away - I need to get back
to it but haven't had much time in the last couple of weeks.
cheers
Miller
I can still try to build on my spare, don't hesitate to ask me if needed
I made my test on
In my click tracker I use [array set] to generate the resulting audio in
3 tracks (3 sources), and then zexy's [.] for amplitude scaling and
iem_tab's [tab_add] to join all 3 tracks. iem_tab has also lots of other
interesting things.
But that's all copy-paste, no audio processing (except with
I always structure my patches as xxxpatch.pd, and all abstractions in a
folder, so that all abstractions can be called as [pp/xxx]. Then there's
only one pd file in the main project folder, everything else is tucked
away. Also very easy to zip together.
If you want to pack pd projects in a
it soon through deken, or in http://bit.ly/jmmmp_059
<https://bit.ly/jmmmp_059?fbclid=IwAR2BHCEAs6v9XFbM7_5o_cBO4wSaKqGF9j3VL-oeD7BO8ELdF7WKaoXQttk>
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instrumentalists working with modern music. The main goal of the
software is to prepare a click track of any score, no matter how complex
it is.
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That is the plan, I sent those to Martin so that he can update it
Christof Ressi schrieb am Mo., 8. Juni 2020, 12:16:
> Can someone upload it to Deken? Please always consider this option
> instead of e-mailing binaries ;-)
>
> Christof
>
> On 07.06.2020 22:02, João Pais wrote:
and send you a link directly...
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 1:07 PM William Brent wrote:
Here's a build of midifile for Linux x86_64. Switching over to Mac OS now to
get you that as well.
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020 at 11:37 AM João Pais wrote:
Hi list,
Martin Peach has released a new version of midifile
Hi list,
Martin Peach has released a new version of midifile. But since in the
present situation he's not able to get to his computers, the binaries
for the mac and linux versions can't be built and uploaded to deken.
Would it be possible for someone with build powers to build these two
be of advantage, but not a requirement, as
these days isolation is the norm.
Best regards,
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ok, that makes sense. I did already create something using delete, as
I'm applying a dynamic color to the arrays after they've been created.
But having a look at the the partial-trace makes more sense.
Best,
Joao
I think I see what happened - the recorded trace reports 0 dB but this is
the
there is an extremely ridiculous hack that could be tried, *if* the guis
are for display only: similar to jmmmp/pix2canvas, a group of 1x1
canvases can be used to fake an alpha channel.
But besides the condition above, the purpose of this will be mainly to
show how ridiculously far Pd users
> after having all libraries installed it works great!!!
>
> Thanks for this object!
> I just need to figure out where to set the files and size/colors, etc.
>
> That shouldn't be a big deal once I take a closer look.
>
it's all explained in the help file.
> However, I did have one problem:
>
many objects in the jmmmp library are dependent on others, so it only works
if you have the whole library (I work on windows only)
But even though it's hack, it has more features than many other gui objects.
Thanks, João!
>
>
>
> It doesn't do anything because a few objects inside don't create
> [jp.menu] doesn't do anything either but has a help file. Unfortunately
> the help file doesn't help me.
>
what you mean, it doesn't do anything? I use it in lots of patches, and
that's the reason I programmed it. For me, it does exactly what it's
supposed to.
Since these seem to be
Hello list,
I'm trying out [sigmund~], and wanted to confirm something related to
results I'm getting. When using the patch
doc/4.data.structures/14.partialtracer (and also a derivate patch of mine),
I get lots of tracks with 0 amplitude as result of the analysis.
The settings are [sigmund~ -t
Hi list,
Related to the bug report https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/872
, I wanted to drop some questions about sigmund:
- when using the "-npeak x tracks" settings, the X stands for the maximum
number of tracks, and no more are allowed. Is this the expected behavior?
It's not
Hello list,
I'm modernizing the patch doc\4.data.structures\14.partialtracer.pd, and
ran into a strange issue: when a sample is loaded and an analysis is made,
everything is ok.
But, when a 2nd analysis is made, the partials are much higher, and the
resynthesis isn't as good.
As example, here
> > one feature badly missing is the possibility ta allocate dynamic "voice"
> > (or "instance") numbers (i.e. how many instances of an abstraction are
> > created).
>
> That would be useful and it's actually on my to-do-list :-). But usually I
> just allocate the max. number of instances I need
Hello list,
I didn't try clone yet, I always worked with dynamic patching for similar
issues. For those who are knowledgeable, I would like to ask: is there any
advantage of clone against dynamic patching when using the same circuit, or
is it the same?
This pertains to patches working on both
.at>:
> Am 5. Jänner 2020 16:02:52 MEZ schrieb "João Pais" :
> >
> > Since I'm on windows and there are no deken tools
> >available,
>
> what about the precompiled `deken.exe` available on github?
>
>
> mfg.hft.fsl
> IOhannes
Hi list,
I noticed that deken can search for individual objects. But, when I
search for an object of my jmmmp library, I can't find them. What am I
doing wrong?
I had a look at
https://github.com/pure-data/deken/blob/master/developer/README.md#objectlists,
but when browsing the libraries
I think Miller already introduced some options to switch off interaction
in edit and run modes. Check the documentation of the latest Pd version
(I can't do it now). Besides that, get and set are the way to go.
Am 29.11.2019 um 06:57 schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres:
so, I have a data structure
in the 64b version, though (which is irrelevant
for now, as [leapmotion] isn't compiled for it yet.)
Best,
Joao
Am Di., 19. Nov. 2019 um 11:43 Uhr schrieb IOhannes m zmoelnig <
zmoel...@iem.at>:
> On 25.08.19 22:09, João Pais wrote:
> > Hi list,
> >
> > while trying
Maybe somewhat related to the recent request for a find function going to a
parent: how about a find function which would exclude either abstractions,
or subpatches up- or down to a certain level?
A practical scenario: I use lots of my library's abstractions, which means
that when I search for a
> > the "Gem.dll: couldn't load" appears in the console.
> loading with log set to "all" might give you a more specific error here
>
Do you mean in -verbose mode? Here is the output when trying to load Gem:
tried E:/jmmmp/elektronik/pd-vanilla/extra/Gem-94/Gem.m_i386 and failed
tried
Hi list,
while trying out pd 0.5 and later versions with gem-94, this error appears:
"pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np not found in libwinpthread-1.dll"
[translated from German].
When trying out Gem 93 to 93.1 with the same Pd version, the error message
doesn't appear; but when a [Gem] object
> Ok, I have now a better understanding of what your exact problem is. It
> strikes me that I never ran into this. I tested it by putting some of
> my own data structure stuff into GOP subpatches and putting those into
> other subpatches. It doesn't happen with the patches I tried.
>
it's also
Hi list,
besides doing an empty search on pd, is there any way of getting the
current state of all submitted data to deken? E.g. also to sort it not only
by name, but also by date?
How is it possible to delete something from the repository, also by
deleting the release from the puredata website?
Following the discussion, here is a patch which should be able to
document the issue. You'll need pd 0.5 and jmmmp 0.56 to try it out.
There is also a bonus bug related with loading a canvas from a file.
Best,
Joao
#N struct 1105-multiarray float x float y float color float thick float
> Personally, I don't see the need for this be tackled in Pd, since one
> has enough control in the patch to re-order scalars as desired. Rather,
> I believe dealing with this is best left to the patch author.
>
There would be two ways of forcing the author to deal with it:
- externally by making
> z-ordering is based on the order of drawing commands (things drawn later
>> will paint on top of what is already there).
>>
>
>
>> Pd doesn't care about z-ordering at all and the order of drawing is
>> mainly defined by "what needs to be done" (rather than: "how will it
>> look like").
>>
>
>
Hello list,
I just uploaded a new version of the jmmmp library, with improvements to
the [multiarray] object (also at http://bit.ly/jmmmp_056, and soon on
deken).
In the help file of [multiarray] I described a problem with the drawing of
scalars inside a GOP. Basically, z-order is lost (or
for color, thickness, visibility
[multiarray] is an abstraction to store and operate several graphical
arrays in one graphical container.
You can download it soon through deken, or follow the link below.
For more informations and a tarball file, visit http://bit.ly/jmmmp_056
Best,
Hi list,
while trying out pd 0.5, I can start gem. When initializing gem, the
error appears: pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np not found in
libwinpthread-1.dll [translated from German]. replacing the dll with the
one included in gem doesn't solve the problem.
Or could that be provoked by
[multiarray] is an abstraction to store and operate several graphical
arrays in one graphical container.
You can download it soon through deken, or follow the link below.
For more informations and a tarball file, visit http://bit.ly/jmmmp_055
Best,
João Pais
http://bit.ly/jmmmp_054
Best,
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ld be "symbol output_1" (without a slash!)
>
> > and route doesn't filter the content.
>
> [oscparse] outputs a list, so you have to send it to [list trim], then you
> can use [route] in the way you intend it.
>
> Christof
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 12. Juli 2019 um 19:15
that is correct - but that will mean that for every new string, a new
oscparse must be created, in contrary to the current practice, where the
message has all the addresses in it.
2 other issues, but I can't reproduce them here:
- when I send an address with a number added to it, the external
Hi all,
I'm having some issues with oscformat and slashes ( / ). Many programs out
there use formats such as "/parameter/bla 1", but both oscformat and
oscparse don't really cope that well with them.
For oscformat:
- it's not possible to send a string starting with a slash, the message
/jmmmp_053
Best,
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Since yesterday evening I'm not able to reach deken, for every result I
type the answer is that nothing is found. Is the server down, or is this
a problem of my own computers?
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What I did with the Click Tracker http://j.mp/click-tracker was to add a
folder with the necessary externals. The paths in the patch then point
to the lib folder.
This puts all the work on my side, but the package is stable. And I can
copy it for other projects. But this is a patch to be open
Hello list,
while preparing some patches, I wanted to do some abstractions that can
replace externals from other libraries. The purepd library seems to have
such elements, although it doesn't have any activity since 2010.
I could add any resulting code to it - what would be the best way of
informations and a tarball file, visit http://bit.ly/jmmmp_052
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Hi,
some time ago I commissioned Chikashi to update the external to the newest
leapmotion sdk, as there were lots of advantages compared to the 1st
version. The sdk chosen was v2, because the 3rd one is more oriented for
virtual reality, which seems to be the main focus of the leap these
very good, I never really used biquad myself. Then I'll adapt the patch to
use the vanilla version instead.
Am Sa., 19. Jan. 2019 um 04:36 Uhr schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres <
por...@gmail.com>:
> Em sex, 18 de jan de 2019 às 13:38, João Pais
> escreveu:
>
>> a neutr
2019 às 09:15, João Pais
escreveu:
ah, but it's included in cyclone in windows? I imagine it's exactly the
same object?
Hi! Not quite exactly the same, but quite similar of course. This was an
experimental cloned object that was didn't really make the cut for the
stable release
ah, but it's included in cyclone in windows? I imagine it's exactly the
same object?
Am 18.01.2019 um 11:50 schrieb IOhannes m zmölnig:
On 1/18/19 11:40 AM, João Pais wrote:
Hello list,
I installed cyclone through deken, and noticed that many audio objects
are missing: biquad~, etc.
[biquad
pixel >*perfect* between platforms. I think we're pretty close using the
metrics from Pd-extended but systems and system settings change...
On Nov 28, 2018, at 9:47 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote:
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 19:31:46 +0100
From: João Pais
To: PD-List
Subject: [PD] P
yes, that seemed to correct it - there was a folder "lib" that I didn't
include.
Hi Joao,
for iemmatrix you need the dynamic libraries that come with it via
deken, e.g. libgsl.0.dylib. So my suggestion is to download iemmatrix
library via deken, use >[declare] with -lib flag and open the
Hello list,
a friend of mine in a mac is trying to load a patch using iemmatrix, but
the library can't be loaded. The following message comes out:
/pp/lib/iemmatrix/iemmatrix.d_fat:
dlopen(xxx/pp/lib/iemmatrix/iemmatrix.d_fat, 10): Library not loaded:
@loader_path/libs/libgsl.0.dylib
another way to do it might be the following. I don't have now the time to
test it:
- loadbang a list with all the arguments (maybe initiated by something
like [list $1 $2 $3 ... $16 or whatever])
- use an abstraction from list-abs to drip the list
- send the output through a route to test
a small trick I learned the last days - if you use coords instead of
donecanvasdialog, it won't trigger the edit mode issue in vanilla. For the
parameters you use, it should work.
I could leave a couple of theoretical suggestions:
- one disadvantage of data-s is that to move the marker, it's
however, most people will not have the deken-cmdline utility readily
available, so you may find it it of limited use.
Ah, if you meant developer/deken, it's available only as a bash script.
well technically, it's not a "bash script" (you can download a
self-contained deken.exe on windows).
I need to distribute a patch, which has to be programmed in Pd Vanilla
but with some external libraries. Since the patch will be downloaded by
unexperienced persons, it would be good that the externals would be
automatically installed by deken. I was looking for a script feature in
deken that
I'm too lazy to look it up and I don't remember the exact details, but I
believe you can change the 4th argument to 3 and it will not set edit
mode, ala:
pd-$1data-marker donecanvasdialog 1 1 3 0 0 110 110 $2 $3 0 0 1 1 1;
3 is the key. If this is a different issue, sorry for the noise.
Hello list,
a couple more assorted suggestions with no specific logic:
- is seems that the old trick of simulating graphical depth by deleting
something and undoing it so that it appears on top doesn't work anymore. I
would say it even affects old patches, but I can't confirm this. Is this a
> > - soundfiler - send a message when a file or an array isn't found. This
> > would be useful for the patch to process this information (instead of
> just
> > showing it in the console)
> > E.g. "error file xx not found" and "error array xx not found". This
> allows
> > to sort out the
> however: i'm sure you are aware that the donecanvasdialog message is
> part of a "private" API, that is: it is used for the internal working of
> Pd and users are not supposed to use it directly (even though it allows
> you to do nice and handy things).
> so i don't see anything inherently wrong
if it has to be controlled by the mouse, it should be possible to program
something in vanilla using data structures - I don't have any prototypes
ready, except maybe the control points in [jmmmp/bezier].
It's dependent on tcl/tk, so not suited for very fast changes.
Am Fr., 14. Dez. 2018 um
Hello list,
I have some suggestions for simple vanilla features which might be helpful:
- soundfiler - send a message when a file or an array isn't found. This
would be useful for the patch to process this information (instead of just
showing it in the console)
E.g. "error file xx not found" and
the "deken" cmdline utility has such a feature:
$ deken install -r requirementsfile.txt
however, most people will not have the deken-cmdline utility readily
available, so you may find it it of limited use.
is that command line available in all OSs including windows?
apart from, that
Hello list,
I need to distribute a patch, which has to be programmed in Pd Vanilla but
with some external libraries. Since the patch will be downloaded by
unexperienced persons, it would be good that the externals would be
automatically installed by deken. I was looking for a script
I'm creating long tables (+20m, @22.05KHz, Pd 32b windows), where I read
a short voice sample from another table and copy them into different
places in the long table. Since that's running outside of the audio
chain, I'm using [tabread]+[tabwrite]. The idea is to generate an audio
file from a
Hello list,
I'm creating long tables (+20m, @22.05KHz, Pd 32b windows), where I read a
short voice sample from another table and copy them into different places
in the long table. Since that's running outside of the audio chain, I'm
using [tabread]+[tabwrite]. The idea is to generate an
Hello list,
a small question about font size: in one of my computers the font in the
patch is bigger than in the others. That happens in the same patch with
the same settings. Is this behavior known?
Pd vanilla (it happens with any version I install), windows 10.
Best,
jmmmp
> part of the freedom of opensource developement is for many, that they can
> focus on what they are interested in.
> and there are no obligations.
> if money is involved that becomes more complex quite fast.
>
no one should be forced to do anything. If someone doesn't want to take a
task, then
A small personal tale: some years ago I needed help to have an external
for the leapmotion - I was willing to pay for it, as someone would have to
dedicate time and work for it. In the end no one even replied to my calls,
so the thing had to rest. Some years later, it eventually worked when
or you setup your patch with a configuration file, where all the values
are stored. It's the same idea as querying the .pd file itself, but
cleaner.
But this is a good idea, you should make a request to Miller for it.
Liam Goodacre wrote:
I don't think that there's an external for this,
thanks. That's what I thought, but just wanted to be sure. I also notice
that since it's a new thing, there aren't that many externals available
for it yet.
Joao
On 24.10.18 21:11, João Pais wrote:
Hello list,
I just noticed that pd 0.49 comes packed with 64b. I was interested to
ask
I also notice that pd~ is in windows already for a while, I think I'll
test it soon for the next version of my porting of Henke's granulator.
Interesting project, where can I find more about this?
You can find already from early this year in my library, or since
yesterday evening the new
file, visit http://bit.ly/jmmmp_051
Best,
João Pais
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Hello list,
I just noticed that pd 0.49 comes packed with 64b. I was interested to ask
what are currently the biggest advantages. I imagine that lots of added
memory capacity; but for example, is it still limited to only one
processor?
I also notice that pd~ is in windows already for a
h pmpd.
> Wondering about your other workshops on data structures how beginner
> orientated is it? Or does or have more a "think different", change your
> mind, interpreting data in new creative ways aproach?
> See you, manuel
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> > Gesendet: Dienstag, 05.
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