[PD] deken auto-unzip on Windows WAS: deken install user experience

2016-06-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
es m zmoelnig wrote: > >> On 2016-06-08 12:09, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >>> >>> I'd >>> like to find a little time to contribute to it, to smooth out the user >> >> cool. >> welcome back. >> >>> >>>

Re: [PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I mean completely hide, no trace at all. The way it is now is intimidating. The correct fix IMHO would be to make pd support ~/.local/share/pd-externals on GNU/Linux, then make all platforms install into there by default. .hc IOhannes m zmoelnig: > On 2016-06-08 12:09, Hans-Christoph Stei

[PD] deken install user experience

2016-06-08 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I'm just trying deken for the first time, awesome piece of work! I'd like to find a little time to contribute to it, to smooth out the user experience for newbies. I can see there are all sorts of use cases for all of the install options that it currently provides, but it is pretty confusing for

Re: [PD] Load Libraries or Declare Paths via Gui Plugin

2016-06-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You'd load Tcl libs via the standard Tcl ways. I don't think you could load a Pd lib, if that's what you mean. .hc me.grimm: > Hello, > > I feel like this came up before but I failed to find it. > > Can I load a lib or declare a path via tcl/tk gui plugin? If so how might > this happen? > >

Re: [PD] Window menu

2015-11-10 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
A Window menu is a very common pattern for apps. For example, in OSX Mail where I'm typing this email it has a Window menu with Minimize, Zoom, etc. There are many things in apps that are just standard and should be left that way. With Pd, you need to consider lots of platforms: GNOME, KDE, X

Re: [PD] deken-plugin & portability

2015-11-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Glad to see there is finally something like this happening! The meta.pd file in the libdir format would be a good place to include dependencies. It already contains the version. .hc On Oct 16, 2015, at 8:42 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: > Hello, > > Warning, 100% vapourware ahead. > > On 14/

[PD] using pd with mplayer udp sync

2015-11-09 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey all, Briefly back in Pd for a little bit, we're doing a minor overhaul of Terre Natale: EXIT (http://at.or.at/hans/terrenatale). I just found out an awesome new feature in mplayer (ok, maybe not so new;): The UDP master/slave sync mode. Its really easy to use either as master or slave

Re: [PD] Update cyclone maintenance

2015-06-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
About maintaining cyclone, I think a reorg would be great, and further maintenance as well. If you want to do whatever you want with it, then just make a fork and work on it as a new name. If you want to stick to cyclone's central goal of Max/MSP compatibility, then keep working on it as cyclone

Re: [PD] Updating Pd-Extended

2015-03-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Pd-extended is in need of a new maintainer. Obviously, I can't keep up these days. I'm happy to help anyone get up to speed. .hc On Dec 24, 2014, at 2:00 PM, João Pais wrote: > Hello list, > > I wanted to ask, what is the current state of the pd-extended distribution? > Pd-vanilla has had s

Re: [PD] Updated Pd-Extended

2014-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Jonathan Wilkes via Pd-list wrote: > Some questions about the bullet points on the page: > > * update the libraries to the latest version, and test them > > > Aren't they updated by virtue of pulling from the latest svn? If I can get > Pd-extended to compile, what else do I need to do in or

Re: [PD] Updated Pd-Extended

2014-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I don't remember the details on the differences. Pd-extended guarantees pixel sizes of boxes across platforms and releases (if not, its a bug). One way it does that is using `tk scaling 1`. I believe that was removed in vanilla. There are probably other details like this, like related to suppor

Re: [PD] Updated Pd-Extended

2014-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Seb Shader via Pd-list wrote: > Hello again list, > > > What do y'all think of the idea of releasing Pd-extended both as a > "core" pd with no libraries added except maybe the libdir and hex loaders and > as a version with multiple libraries (2 release stages)? Perhaps it's been > disc

Re: [PD] Updated Pd-Extended

2014-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
A core idea of having a standard format for libraries is to make them easily packaged and distributed. There are lots of libraries that follow https://puredata.info/docs/developer/LibraryTemplate, so the next step is for someone to make something like https://pypi.python.org as the central repo o

Re: [PD] Updated pd-extended

2014-10-01 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Bukvic wrote: > > > > ...As strange as it may sound I must admit I've missed our broken > conversations/banter. Welcome back, Hans! > Alas, this time I will have to bow out--so many things to do, so little time. > Hope you'll understand. > Best, > Ico > On

Re: [PD] Updated pd-extended

2014-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You can take an external compiled for the same OS/arch and it loads and works on all of them. .hc Ivica Bukvic wrote: > Based on what metrics? > On Sep 25, 2014 11:05 AM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" wrote: > >> >> For libraries, there is binary compatibili

Re: [PD] Pd-Extended_0.43.4 with 64-bit Mac OSX 10.8.5

2014-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Compile using gcc, not clang. .hc Francis Derive wrote: > Bonjour list ! > > A Pd/Pd-extended starter here - "0.43.4" and "10.8.5" is not mandatory, > however increasing with life. > > So, no luck launching the 64-bit binary or compiling the 64-bit source. > > > 1) Launching Pd-extended.ap

Re: [PD] Updated pd-extended

2014-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
d it, and I thank you for your kind words) would not have > been possible without breaking binary compatibility which, given the > aforesaid circumstances, is a non-issue to begin with. > > Best, > > Ico > On Sep 25, 2014 10:54 AM, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" wrote: >

Re: [PD] Pd-extended for ARM - where to find the latest versions

2014-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
This is the build I made for RPi: http://apt.puredata.info/releases/pool/pd-extended_0.43.4~extended1-1~raspbian_wheezy_armhf.deb .hc Ingo wrote: > I'm looking for the latest builds of Pd-extended for ARM (Cubietruck). > > I was checking "Index of /auto-build/latest" > http://autobuild.puredat

Re: [PD] Updated pd-extended

2014-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Just follow this, and it'll be easy to get it included on all platforms: https://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingIntoPdextended .hc pured...@11h11.com wrote: > Hi, > > Would do anything to finally include mtl abstractions to pd-extended. I can > build on Windows, Mac, Linux & the RPI. > >

Re: [PD] Updated pd-extended

2014-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
You've done a lot of good work in pd-l2ork, but you also broke binary compatibility of libraries for no good reason. You could have implemented that feature in a way that preserved binary compatibility of libraries. You still can, and you should. .hc Ivica Bukvic wrote: > Well, I guess you can

Re: [PD] Updated pd-extended

2014-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Did someone write some tests for some Pd flavor? That'd be a nice development. Pd-extended's test suite consists of loading every object, and loading every help patch. They are scripts in SVN: scripts/load_every_object.sh and scripts/tests/ They have been quite helpful in finding issues. .hc

Re: [PD] Updated pd-extended

2014-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I haven't checked the status of any of those patches in a long time. I posted many in the patch tracker, did those get included? I used to maintain the pd-extended git repo as a branch that always showed the pd-extended changes as a series of commits on top of Pd-vanilla's git. That is called t

Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Updated pd-extended

2014-09-25 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
> 2014-09-20 2:08 GMT-03:00 Billy Stiltner : > >> i get u 2 obi hans kinobis mixed up >> >> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:56 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: >>>> On 2014-09-16 0

Re: [PD] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Updated pd-extended

2014-09-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > On 2014-09-16 05:36, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >> as long as we're on the subject, I'm noticing this seems to be the >> biggest version difference, it's 3 generations behind (0.43 >> extended vs 0.46 vanilla). My question is, next release would be >> 0.44 or woul

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 10th anniversary – Composing with Pure Data (Data Flow Programming Language) course

2014-09-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
That's awesome! Glad to hear it is still running! I remember back in Ars Electronica when we were discussing our ideas for a Pd class :) .hc Koray Tahiroğlu wrote: > This year, we are celebrating the 10th anniversary of Composing with Pure > Data (Data Flow Programming Language) course !! The

Re: [PD] Fwd: Re: [expr] external crashing pd

2014-05-19 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
It would be nice if you would forward bug fixes upstream to the patch tracker. That's generally considered the right thing to do when building upon a project. Don't take my word for it, there are many sources that go in depth on the topic all over the internet. .hc On 05/19/2014 02:57 PM, Ivic