Re: [PD] Mailing list archive search: Remove attachment.htm results?

2024-04-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/23/24 08:56, Peter P. wrote: Hi, The search function on https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list// is great, but a large number of search results are of the form "/pipermail/pd-list/attachments/20160527/3e480100/attachment.html" and are more or less unreadable. I would like to

Re: [PD] deken server seems to be down

2024-04-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/22/24 10:44, Edwin van der Heide wrote: It seems the deken server is not working at the moment. yes sorry. yesterday we did some maintenance upgrade of the server running the deken backend, and it obviously didn't survive that. unfortunately i had been busy the whole day, so i missed

Re: [PD] [gem] trigger in gemchain

2024-04-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/16/24 14:56, Patko nytkophilus wrote: Le 16 avr. 2024 à 10:51, cyrille henry a écrit : [trigger] are usually transparent in a gemchain. This is the only counterexample I am aware. It also mean that you can't adapt my L-System example (02.Advanced/21.basic_LSystem), or Claude

Re: [PD] Jack transport on Linux

2024-04-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/15/24 10:15, Alexander wrote: The external you mention can be found here: https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/svn/HEAD/tree/trunk/externals/tb/jack_transport/ ah yes, i didn't remember which library it was in, so didn't find it immediately: in any case: if you prefer a git-checkout

Re: [PD] Jack transport on Linux

2024-04-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/15/24 09:33, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: Hi all, I used to be able to do Jack transport on Linux with the external once hosted at http://artdent.homelinux.net/svn/jack_transport~/ which now seems to be dead. Any other known externals or ideas? I need to simply synchronize Pd to Rosegarden

Re: [PD] pd.iem.at down?

2024-04-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/3/24 04:38, Peter P. wrote: Hi, i am getting a "Service unavailable" response from my browser trying to access http://pd.iem.at/ while other sites such as http://puredata.info/ are accessible. our IT department changed some firewall rules during the easter hols and we are still

Re: [PD] hid objects on linux/mac/win? hidraw on linux? hidraw parsing?

2024-03-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/14/24 10:57, Patko nytkophilus wrote: This version have been uploaded this week after seing this thread, that explains why it didn't appear yet, meanwhile I don't get why the date is 2022. i do not really know. however, inspecting the deken package with my trusted `zipinfo`, i see

Re: [PD] GEM. pix_record producing 1 frame videos

2024-02-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2/21/24 09:00, altern wrote: sorry, it is PD 0.54.1 for windows 64 bits, the portable version thanks. GEM: video record plugins: PNM ah well. the only recording capability that is available for your installation is PNM, which creates a portable anymap image, and not really a "film" in

Re: [PD] Can't load iemmatrix lib

2024-02-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/17/24 15:47, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: I've installed iemmatrix from deken, but when I put a [declare -lib iemmatrix] in Pd, I get the following error: that should be fixed with iemmatrix-0.4.0 gfdmasr IOhannes OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

[PD] [PD-announce] iemmatrix 040 released

2024-02-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
iemmatrix 0.4.0 "double square" aka (040²)ⁿ has been released last night. **developed for science** most notable features: - 23 years of relentless development - 130 battle tested objects - 13473 lines of spellchecked C-code (without docs!)

Re: [PD] Can't load iemmatrix lib

2024-01-18 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/18/24 12:25, Linux ROUEN Normandie wrote: Same issue here with 'iemmatrix' library (0.3.3 as of 2023/07/19 thru Deken) under Linux Mint 21.3 (Ubuntu 22.04-4 base) / Pd 0.54-1: "/home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/iemmatrix/iemmatrix.pd_linux:libgsl.so.25: cannot open shared object file: No such

Re: [PD] Can't load iemmatrix lib

2024-01-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/18/24 07:57, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: On 1/18/24 08:56, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: On 1/18/24 08:53, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 1/18/24 07:46, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: The funny thing is that I did install libgsl27 manually with apt-get, after I read the error I got in Pd

Re: [PD] Can't load iemmatrix lib

2024-01-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/18/24 07:46, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: The funny thing is that I did install libgsl27 manually with apt-get, after I read the error I got in Pd, but it still didn't work with the Deken version. [...] /home/alex/Documents/Pd/externals/iemmatrix/iemmatrix.pd_linux:libgsl.so.25: cannot

Re: [PD] trying to test 'pdp library and 'pdp_scan~'

2024-01-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/16/24 17:12, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Em ter., 16 de jan. de 2024 às 05:08, cyrille henry escreveu: Hello, If you want to try scann synthesis, I suggest to try pmpd. specially example 47. Running this in Extended now, it looks amazing. Do we really need Gem though? not at

Re: [PD] trying to test 'pdp library and 'pdp_scan~'

2024-01-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/15/24 22:45, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: When reading about 'Scanned synthesis' in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scanned_synthesis I see about the [pdp_scan~] external from 'pdp', but I can't use it... I can still try extended in my machine and it didn't really work back then, I get

Re: [PD] How to deal with externals for both 64 and 32-bit Pd

2023-12-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/6/23 11:07, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: now that i've written this, i notice that I haven't actually uploaded any of my new packages to deken yet (that's mostly because i haven't done any new release yet). at least i've fixed the upload for zexy for now. others might follow

Re: [PD] help needed: "conditional" help patches

2023-12-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/11/23 16:04, Christof Ressi wrote: Interesting. The big disadvantage is that the roles are reversed: what should be a subpatch is now the root window, so when the user tries to close it, it closes the whole help patch... So I guess I'd rather prefer my current solution. totally. i

Re: [PD] help needed: "conditional" help patches

2023-12-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/11/23 15:29, Christof Ressi wrote: Ok, I have a come up with the following solution: I moved the multichannel section into a dedicated patch and open it with [;pd open 1( when the user clicks a bang button in the main help patch. It's not perfect, but kind of works for my purposes.

Re: [PD] alsa crashing on recent Pi OS

2023-12-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
i forgot a few more things... On 12/7/23 12:27, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: IEMberry provides only very few packages by itself, and instead relies on the Debian packages. It also has Debian/backports and the official Raspberry Pi OS repositories enabled (with Debian being preferred). i've

Re: [PD] alsa crashing on recent Pi OS

2023-12-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/4/23 21:23, Yann Seznec wrote: I’ll answer both of these questions at once…to be more clear, the most obvious test of the Pi issues I was having is to launch “humanCaller_test.pd” from this project: https://github.com/yannseznec/humanCall

Re: [PD] How to deal with externals for both 64 and 32-bit Pd

2023-12-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/6/23 09:44, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: On 06/12/2023 05:27, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: Sorry for the second question, now read the pd-lib-builder README. It states that 64-bit externals will indeed get a different name. essentialy you need to do 2 compilations (no need to use

Re: [PD] How to deal with externals for both 64 and 32-bit Pd

2023-12-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/6/23 09:12, Roman Haefeli wrote: Just compile it against the m_pd.h of the double-precision edition of Pd. this won't work, as the "m_pd.h" for Pd64 and Pd32 are exactly the same. instead set the "PD_FLOATSIZE" macro to 64 when building the external. reasoning: - just building with

Re: [PD] How to deal with externals for both 64 and 32-bit Pd

2023-12-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/6/23 08:43, Alexandros Drymonitis wrote: Ahem, I should have guessed that... The question now is how to have both versions run happily side by side? for Pd on Debian the answer is: - install both "puredata" and "puredata64" - if you are a cmdline person, launch pd32 by typing "pd",

Re: [PD] alsa crashing on recent Pi OS

2023-12-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/1/23 09:03, Yann Seznec wrote: Hi again, I’m wondering if anyone else is having the same issue as me. I’m trying to run Pd patches on Raspberry Pi, and I (perhaps naively) thought that I would use the latest Pi OS. I seem to be having far more issues than I had in the past, namely

Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 225, Issue 2

2023-12-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/4/23 13:00, Thomas Mayer wrote: Hello, On 04.12.23 10:55, Yann Seznec wrote:> As a side note, perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me could update the version of Pd that is currently accessible from apt-get? I didn't mind compiling from source but it is pretty handy to be able to

[PD] [PD-announce] 2nd call: PhD position Sonic Interaction Design, IEM/ KUG, Graz, Austria

2023-11-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[Apologies for cross-postings] [Please distribute] (this is the 2nd call for a 4 year stay at the IEM and a great chance to get your PhD done. please apply!) Dear all, we are pleased to announce a fully funded *4-year PhD position* in the field of Sonic Interaction Design at the Institute

Re: [PD] win11 deken sha256-problem

2023-11-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 11/21/23 10:57, ro...@dds.nl wrote: no problems with my Win11 and Pd.0.54.1. while i don't know about the actual cause of it, i was able to reproduce the problem (also with the zip package of Pd). (it seems that on some systems the filename is included alongside the calculated hash, so

Re: [PD] win11 deken sha256-problem

2023-11-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 11/20/23 10:37, Antoine Rousseau wrote: yes, same here on a win11 machine. I recently updated Pd to 0.54.1, I *think* it was working normally before, with an older Pd/deken. yes. iirc, the version of deken thatships with the latest and greatest Pd now tries harder to validate the

Re: [PD] off topic: congrats Miller for the Silver Lion award from La Biennale di Venezia

2023-10-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 10/21/23 04:17, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: see https://www.labiennale.org/en/music/2023/silver-lion without saying, this is very well deserved. but i guess, in this case it is better to make it "with saying", so: congratulations! ghfdmast IOhannes OpenPGP_signature.asc Description:

Re: [PD] pd 0.54-0 testtone.pd

2023-10-23 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 10/23/23 11:54, Nick Burge via Pd-list wrote: Dear pd-list, I’ve noticed that as I adjust the Input Monitor gain in the testtone patch, the pd console prints the message “clip: no method for set” Is this a bug? Thanks. yes. gasmdr IOhannes OpenPGP_signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

[PD] [PD-announce] PhD position: Sonic Interaction Design, IEM/ KUG, Graz, Austria

2023-10-09 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
[Apologies for cross-postings] [Please distribute] Dear all, we are pleased to announce a *4-year PhD position* in the field of Sonic Interaction Design at the Institute of Electronic Music and Acoustics (IEM, https://iem.at/), University of Music and Performing Arts Graz, Austria. Current

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] New Externals for the SoundScape Renderer + ASDF external

2023-08-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 8/1/23 09:43, Matthias Geier wrote: However, I have just noticed that for some reason "-mmacosx-version-min=10.15" gets added to the compiler invocation as well. like that?

Re: [PD] For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

2023-07-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 7/20/23 07:20, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: 2) hmmm, where is the post for sigmund~ version? should there be one? while I see that you (@porres) have updated the version printout to show "sigmund~ version 0.08", this particular code-path is only called when compiling sigmung~ for

[PD] [resend] Re: For info: 3 minor issues with Pd 0.54.0 and ELSE 1.0-0 rc-8 under Linux Mint 21.1

2023-07-17 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
(one shouldn't write mails on a mobile phone when trying to clarify things; it tends to add autocorrection noise, which might make the "clarification" even harder to understand. so i'm re-sending this, hopefully with typos fixed) On 7/16/23 14:10, Linux ROUEN Normandie wrote: Duly noted!

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.54-0 released

2023-07-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 7/4/23 06:46, Miller Puckette wrote: To Pd announce: Pd version 0.54-0 is available from http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data . hooray! for those who need to download via https, get it via

Re: [PD] 0.54-0test2 released

2023-07-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 7/3/23 13:23, José de Abreu wrote: about the bigger console, it triggered to me on test1 I think, but only after I tried to change the font size of the console, then I don't know how to go back... ah thanks, that's the trick. so the new resizing code kicks in if you ever change the default

Re: [PD] Help with Gem on Fedora

2023-05-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 5/29/23 23:28, Francisco Medeiros wrote: I need to play vídeo files with Gem on Nobara linux which is Fedora based but when compiling Gem I can only get film-support to use QuickTime. Does anyone know a way to install gmerin on Fedora? i don't. however, Gem in git has some prelaminary

Re: [PD] Number atom box limits overstepped

2023-05-11 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 5/11/23 14:30, William Huston wrote: Joao, IIRC, some objects in pd-extended, like hsliders, would always respect the limits whether dialed-in, or when coming from an input. When i finally switched to vanilla, I noticed the same thing, limits were not respected on the inputs, and a lot of

Re: [PD] Raspberry pi 4 startup problem

2023-04-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/13/23 12:39, Simon Iten wrote: Or as a workaround, is there a way to hit that apply button automagically from within a pd patch on loadbang? yes, with the [mediasettings] library. in RPi, you should be able to install it with $ apt-get install pd-mediasettings gfmasdr IOhannes

[PD] [PD-announce] IEM Music Residency Programs 2023 - Call for Applications

2023-02-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
IEM Music Residency Programs 2023 - Call for Applications University of Music and Performing Arts Graz (KUG) https://iem.at/ (please distribute) The IEM – Institute of Electronic Music and Acoustics – in Graz, Austria is happy to announce its calls for its 2023 residency program. You can

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PuREST JSON 2.0.0 "Medea" released

2023-01-31 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/31/23 13:16, Roman Haefeli wrote: The included libraries are x86_64 only. Even if the the externals are multiarch, they won't work on arm64. are they installed with 'brew' (on the build-machine)? brew will only install single-arch binaries (and only for the currently selected

Re: [PD] dwt~

2023-01-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/16/23 11:09, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Mon, 2023-01-16 at 10:23 +0100, Paul Pignon wrote:  Just reinstalled Debian 11 (got really wonky), now missing lots of pd stuff.  Need dwt~, not in creb anymore, though dwt~help.pd is there, oddly enough. Add: [declare -lib creb] this! to

[PD] [PD-announce]  Ugly Patch Contest 2023  Call for submissions 

2022-12-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
Dear fellow patchers, (please distribute in your favorite peer-group, on discord, telegram, IRC, fb, twitter^Dmastodon, whatever) it's the time of the year where one reflects on their past achievements. A perfect time for reviewing patches you have written in 2023 (or 2012; or whenever).

Re: [PD] Basic send historical issue 32 bits / 64 bits

2022-12-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/20/22 08:10, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: hi, you should *not* convert the list to a symbol: totally. [l2s] just adds a lot of overhead, for no benefit. you should send a list so that later [route] can do its job: [pack 0 0 ] | [list prepend send] | [netsend] that should read |

Re: [PD] [random] and seed value

2022-12-15 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/14/22 23:55, Julian Brooks wrote: Yes, I'm one of those... then i think you should start setting an explicit seed right now. the simplest way i've found to force the currently hardcoded seed (for the first instantiated random generater), is something like this: 1. seed the random

Re: [PD] poly help patch bug?

2022-11-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 11/15/22 08:13, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 11/15/22 07:36, Chris McCormick wrote: Hi, The help patch for [poly] looks a bit odd to me. The output from poly is connected to the first text toggle, and nothing is connected to the [print]. I'm on Pd 0.51.3. just a quick idea: the updated

Re: [PD] poly help patch bug?

2022-11-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 11/15/22 07:36, Chris McCormick wrote: Hi, The help patch for [poly] looks a bit odd to me. The output from poly is connected to the first text toggle, and nothing is connected to the [print]. I'm on Pd 0.51.3. On Pd-0.53-0 it looks nice and porrish (see attachment). I also downloaded

Re: [PD] Patch won't open

2022-11-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 11/10/22 17:35, Peter P. wrote: * IOhannes m zmoelnig [2022-11-10 16:21]: [...] this in turn was triggered by a gruesome regression in Pd-0.53's iemgui Do you mean the now vanilla GUI objects once introduced by IEM, or the iemgui external library? with "Pd-0.53's iemgui&qu

Re: [PD] Patch won't open

2022-11-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 11/10/22 16:04, Alexandros wrote: I remade the patch and now it opens. I've no idea why. I did set log to 4, but nothing concerning this patch was being printed. Also, I did launch Pd from a terminal and there was nothing there either. Pretty mysterious. Anyway, now the patch opens again.

Re: [PD] undefined symbol

2022-11-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 11/7/22 10:13, Alexandros wrote: I'm trying to make an external with the source being split in five files, where all are included in the main file that creates the object. This is someone else's code (given freely), not aimed at Pd, and I would like to maintain this structure, rather than

Re: [PD] Biased waveform display?

2022-10-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 10/10/22 12:21, jayrope wrote: A quick question: In Vanilla, is it possible to bias solely the display of a waveform in an array in such a manner, that lower volumes visibly appear louder than they are? logarithmic scale on the y-axis (or x-axis, for spectral info)? i'm afraid, the answer

Re: [PD] Alternative for array to show curves?

2022-10-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi. no soluteion, just a quick comment: On 10/9/22 10:16, Ingo wrote: I have already spent countless hours in replacing number boxes and faders with using canvases on top of the number boxes and faders. this will actually make things worse! from Pd's POV, you are now showing a number box

Re: [PD] [hidraw] pre Deken release. was:(Reading/writing a HID device current best practice?)

2022-10-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 10/6/22 17:14, Lucas Cordiviola wrote: That would be fantastic. Please let me know when its done. and then there is which is what I use on our CI-infrastructure to codesign Pd-externals. it's not a

Re: [PD] PD 0.52 bug ? ... [bang~ driven playback]

2022-10-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 10/6/22 12:32, Dan Wilcox wrote: Howdy Oliver, Actually, use the pure-data develop branch. I don't believe Miller has merged this fix into master yet. this one has been merged into master a few weeks ago. If you are unsure about building Pd yourself, I could possibly make a test build

Re: [PD] C externals in M1 give errors

2022-08-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 8/15/22 08:29, Jaime Oliver wrote: The specific error I'm getting right now is that it is reading that number 32 as 29. Again, this same code works fine in all other OSs I've tried. I'm assuming the issue is in the pow() function and all the typecasting (int), (double) as Chris suggested?

Re: [PD] using 'audio-setapi' without dialog popping-up

2022-07-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 7/7/22 11:40, Roman Haefeli wrote: Hi all Is there a way to change audio backends programmatically (with 'audio- setapi' message or any other) _without_ the audio settings dialog popping up? Or is there a way to hide it again after it pops up? use the [mediasettings] library. it is

[PD] Call-for-Help: tips of the day

2022-06-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
TL;DR if you know any quick tips for using Pd, submit them at https://github.com/pd-externals/tipoftheday-plugin/issues/new/choose long version: as you all know, Pd comes with a built-in documentation, that illustrates how to use various objects and stuff (and alex has done a fantastic

Re: [PD] [command] can't execute "ls | wc -l"

2022-06-08 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 6/8/22 09:43, Alexandros wrote: While [ggee/shell] outputs the correct number of files in a directory with the message "ls | wc -l", [command] outputs an error code 2 with "exec ls | wc -l" and doesn't output anything. Is this intentional? If so, how can this command be executed by

[PD] [PD-announce] accountant's amends: deken v0.9.2 released

2022-06-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi i'd like to announce the release of deken-v0.9.2 https://github.com/pure-data/deken/releases/v0.9.2 the GUI-plugin can be installed via deken. just go to "Help -> Find externals" and enter "deken-plugin" as the search string. this is the first bugfix release of deken-v0.9, which solves

Re: [PD] two sliders on top of each other (XY-Controller)?

2022-05-12 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 5/12/22 13:54, Peter P. wrote: Hi list, jus tried if two sliders placed on top of each other could work as a simple XY-contoller. They do not, but more interestingly it is the lower of the two slider that receives the mouse clicks while the upper is visible. Is this intentional? yes. for

Re: [PD] [key], [keyup] and operating system key reapat

2022-05-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 5/4/22 09:49, Peter P. wrote: >> i guess this would be great for many users of Tcl/Tk. >> you might want to file a (wishlist) bug there. > If this doesn't provoke nightmares I'd be happy to do, perhaps for > documentation purposes only. it won't provoke nightmares for me (as i wouldn't even

Re: [PD] [key], [keyup] and operating system key reapat

2022-05-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 5/4/22 08:04, Peter P. wrote: It would be great to have more unified behavior since so much work has already gone into this issue. i guess this would be great for many users of Tcl/Tk. you might want to file a (wishlist) bug there. gdmasdr IOhannes PS: i'm happy to fix bugs in the Pd

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] 1st Release Candidate of ELSE 1.0-0 (with Live Electronics Tutorial)

2022-04-20 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/20/22 09:19, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Hey, first update of ELSE and the tutorial in 2022 has been released. congratulations! The Live Electronics Tutorial has also been updated, check detailed changelog at: https://github.com/porres/pd-else/releases/tag/v1.0-rc1 one thing i

Re: [PD] how to compile fat externals for apple with d_i386/d_amd64/d_arm64?)

2022-04-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/19/22 13:11, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: 1. i *think*, on macOS Pd should first try to load the arch-specific extensions (`.d_i386`), and only then it should fall back to loading the fat binary (`.d_fat`). obviously it doesn't do that [1] right now. in the meantime, you could try to force

Re: [PD] how to compile fat externals for apple with d_i386/d_amd64/d_arm64?)

2022-04-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/17/22 19:14, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: So, yeah, doesn't seem possible, but I'm still not sure yet, and other than, it seems I can't mix in the download a fat binary (with 64/arm) along with some other binary for 32 bits (darwin or 'd_i386'). If I'm using Pd 32 bits it won't be able

Re: [PD] Deken filename too long for certain filesystems (ecryptfs on ext4)

2022-04-19 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/9/22 23:48, Roman Haefeli wrote: I think having a lower limit than the common 255 characters is silly. I don't think that Deken packages should assume a smaller filename limit than 255. However, we see that the above example is not that far from that (support for a few additional archs or

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)

2022-04-06 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 4/6/22 13:03, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: Any universal packaging changes should be done in Debian directly, though. i've now added some metadata to the Debian packages (but none are uploaded yet). if somebody (e.g. roman), wants to test them, they can grab my changes from

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released

2022-03-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/30/22 17:30, Dan Wilcox wrote: How many externals are there, really? there's a total of 146 externals that have macOS binaries (of any form). of these, there are 10 externals that provide M1 binaries. I'd argue that more time has been spent writing emails on this issue than it would

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd 0.52-2 released

2022-03-30 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/29/22 16:10, Christof Ressi wrote: If you have an apple silicon, it'll run under the hood the arm code and then it will only find and load 'arm64' externals? From my understanding, yes. For that reason, I guess it's not a good idea to provide universal binaries at this point and we

Re: [PD] Compiling cyclone for Darwin-arm6

2022-03-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/24/22 15:44, Philip Stone via Pd-list wrote: Hi Christof, Thank you for the pointers. Running ‘make’ on its own does indeed build cyclone, and since I’m doing it on an M1 macbook, it generates arm64 executables, and ‘install’ puts them in ~/lib/cyclone. (? - Is that right?), and they

Re: [PD] more features for [file] (Get directory of current patch)

2022-03-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/23/22 20:44, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: So, one thing I'd like, just get the filename and extension from [file split] as an option, so I wouldn't need [list split]. i think the best would be if [list split] would accept negative indices (counting from the end), to simply extraxt

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52-1 - frozen dsp and gui in ubuntu 20.04

2022-03-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/22/22 15:06, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Tue, 2022-03-22 at 14:56 +0100, Christof Ressi wrote: Anyway, I can open an issue to describe that in my case DSP only works with callbacks on. Yes, please! The Jack backend is supposed to work regardless of the "callback" setting. But not

Re: [PD] M1 Externals

2022-03-21 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/21/22 14:03, me.grimm wrote: but unless you are planning to maintain the object for the next decade I agree, I don't want to do this :) so this is my lobby. the best lobby is of course an open issue (or a PR) :-) so this IS the official repo? https://git.iem.at/pd/comport i would

Re: [PD] plugin.tcl not changing anything, linux

2022-03-04 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/4/22 04:31, Samuel Burt wrote: IOhannes and James. Thanks for the replies. I found the relevant line in pdtk_canvas.tcl. I know modifying that isn't permanent, because the next update might break it, but it did let me replace -background white with -background gray95, which is cool. Now,

Re: [PD] plugin.tcl not changing anything, Linux

2022-03-03 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/3/22 15:59, Samuel Burt wrote: Hi, list. In Pop_OS (Debian derivative), I created a file called *canvasgrey-plugin.tcl* and populated it with: set ::canvas_fill "gray75" set ::text_color "#222" I've openned Pd, created new windows, saved the preferences, but seen no change in the canvas

Re: [PD] will 64bit Pd solve large table indexing issue?

2022-03-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 3/1/22 11:43, Peter P. wrote: Hi, will a 64bit Pd what's a "64bit Pd"? fgmadrs IOhannes OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->

Re: [PD] should 'flags' always come first?

2022-02-28 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2/28/22 17:47, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: I know, that's because they should come first! This is why I think it's confusing that sigmund~ doesn't complain and it just works... i doubt that it is confusing. but: if you do find it confusing, just put the flags at the beginning. it's not

Re: [PD] [midifile]

2022-02-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2/10/22 10:30, Roman Haefeli wrote: 2) I believe it's more valuable if people do not fanning connections because they understand their implications rather than because a message tells them to avoid them. but maybe they can be made aware of the implications if they were made explicit.

[PD] fan-out (was Re: Pd-list Digest, Vol 203, Issue 12)

2022-02-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
hi. it would be super-cool if you could change the subject to something meaningful before replying to a digest mail. On 2/10/22 14:39, Samuel Burt wrote: Having used Pd for two decades, this still catches me occasionally. I was that's the reason why i think that statements like "Fanning

Re: [PD] [midifile]

2022-02-10 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2/10/22 12:53, Dan Wilcox wrote: I feel like often these problems also come from people trying Pd out after being more familiar with Max. Perhaps it would be good if Pd included a mini "Pd for Max users" guide which starts with execution order differences, hmm. i'd prefer a

Re: [PD] [command] output

2022-02-02 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2/2/22 09:04, martin brinkmann wrote: On 01/02/2022 22:25, Roman Haefeli wrote: As I tried to explain previously, this is expected behavior in Pd land. yes, but the float is coming out of the leftmost output, and this only happens when the commands output is a number (and only a number).

Re: [PD] What does this element do on the Pd-Window?

2022-02-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2/1/22 16:50, Christof Ressi wrote: It switches to "Audio On" if DSP is ticked. Not particularly useful to be honest. and if you turn it off? this label is *not* a status indicator for the DSP engine. There is also the "I/O Error" message that appears on some backends when dropouts

[PD] What does this element do on the Pd-Window?

2022-02-01 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
i just stumbled upon this "Audio Off" label in the Pd-console (mostly because i have been annoyed for the past few years that has a fixed font size), and i have seriously no idea what it is supposed to tell me. i have even consulted the Pd manual, but it doesn't even mention it. could

Re: [PD] ggee shell does not work in 0.52

2022-01-27 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/27/22 10:10, martin brinkmann wrote: thanks, i'll do that. i used [shell] basically for getting a random-seed (and filenames) via date, and it affects only a few patches, and should be easy to change to [command]. if you need to read the date, you probably should use zexy's [date] (resp

Re: [PD] ggee shell does not work in 0.52

2022-01-26 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/26/22 10:21, martin brinkmann wrote: or at least getting something from stdout does not work anymore. (everything is fine in older versions (0.51 and below). example: the shell help-patch "getting the date". it receives a bang from the right outlet, but nothing from the left outlet. ggee

Re: [PD] pd 0.52-0 test 4 released

2022-01-25 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/26/22 00:03, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: but once we have it available, we can star providing those :) that's a false conclusion. - for providing a Darwin_arm64 external you need a compiler that can produce such binaries - you do *not* need a Darwin_arm64 Pd for compilation¹

Re: [PD] pd 0.52-0 test 4 released

2022-01-24 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/24/22 17:18, Dan Wilcox wrote: There was an issue with building Tk Wish 8.6.12 as a universal build which stopped this for now. no. this is not really true, and more importantly i think it spreads confusion. the truth (according to john) is: - for newer macOS versions, miller uses

Re: [PD] permute lists?

2022-01-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/14/22 08:09, Peter P. wrote: Thanks José! This works really nicely and I am still trying to understand how this is done! similar to how you would create a randomly permutated list: - pick a random element from the input list and append it to the output list - repeat until the input list

Re: [PD] Store data in memory more efficiently than in arrays

2022-01-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 1/13/22 15:41, José de Abreu wrote: Roman, maybe you could use iem16? [...] [table16] uses only 16bit (2bytes) to store the values, which is half of the memory." So maybe it is exactly what you need? i don't really think so. afaict, roman is mainly concerned about a *potential waste*

Re: [PD] Pager : list patches using [file] and open them

2021-12-22 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/22/21 01:11, Jérôme Abel wrote: Hi list, Thank for this new Pd release ! I'm trying to implement the [+pager] patch from Hans Christoph Steiner with these new features : [file glob], [file splitname] and [list store]. It is a patch which list all pd files in  the current directory,

Re: [PD] pd 0.52-0 test 4 released

2021-12-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/16/21 15:28, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: First, replying to emails from pd-announce sends to 'pd-l...@iem.at' and not 'pd-list@lists.iem.at', which results in undeliverable messages that return back. thanks for finding the long lost reference to the old and outdated address. it's

Re: [PD] Testing Pd builds with JACK

2021-12-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/16/21 11:08, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: i don't know just to be sure: what i suggested is in no way canonical. i only discovered that there is this jack2-osx-files.txt file and it seems to contain a ("the"?) list of files installed by the package. i guess the only peop

Re: [PD] Testing Pd builds with JACK

2021-12-16 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/16/21 10:20, Roman Haefeli wrote: On Thu, 2021-12-16 at 10:05 +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote: I usually wiped * all jack* binaries in /usr/local/bin * /usr/local/include/jack directory I forgot to mention /usr/local/lib/libjack* (those are probably the most crucial when it comes to Pd

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/14/21 14:45, Christof Ressi wrote: 2. turn on "callbacks" in Pd's audio settings (it seems that this is required on macOS) Are you sure? i'm not sure at all. however, i'm testing mostly with the "dummy" backend (rather than a "real" soundcard-based backend like "coreaudio"), and in

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/14/21 13:49, Csaba Láng wrote: Iohannes, I tested jack on Big Sur (11.6.1) but looks like no audio is coming out. [image: Screenshot 2021-12-14 at 13.46.31.png] Output device must be the same as input, I cannot change it in Pd. Portaudio works fine but Jack is without sound. 1. make

Re: [PD] JACK on macOS

2021-12-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/13/21 22:06, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: > > > once it finished building, the dmg will be available on > > could you please be so kind and test with that version as well? my first tests show that

Re: [PD] Vanilla: getting the content of a folder

2021-12-14 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/14/21 09:58, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay wrote: Dear all I am banging my head against the wall, trying to get [openpanel 1] to give me the content of the folder in question. I was hoping that I could: - use [textfile]’s read to get the content of the folder somehow - use [text define

[PD] JACK on macOS (was Re: [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released)

2021-12-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/13/21 14:56, William Brent wrote: If I then start Dan's most recent build of test3 (Pd-0.52-0test3-x86_64-jack.app) from this email thread, choosing "jack" from the Media menu results in no error and "pure_data" shows up in the JACK connection graph. thanks for the info. i'm having a

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/13/21 11:25, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: hmm, which dmg? my plan was: - download the .tgz ah. re-reading your emails i see: On 12/12/21 23:01, Dan Wilcox wrote: > I use the distribution from http://jack.org which is > equivalent to the old JackOSX distribution: &

Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd version 0.52-0test3 released

2021-12-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 12/13/21 10:53, Dan Wilcox wrote: FYI IOhannes: For a project at work which uses JACK, I set up the build system to download the prebuilt JACK dmg and extract it to a local build directory. This seems to work fine for both building *and* distribution as user systems which have

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