Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)
On 06.04.22 18:42, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: Am 6. April 2022 17:27:39 MESZ schrieb Roman Haefeli : On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 15:54 +0200, Max wrote: I think this might be related: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1364/commits Yeah, I think so, too. It's somewhat related (as the issue is missing files with metainformation for modern Desktops), but the PR is not the solution: the files added by the PR are already present in the Debian packages. Cool. It would be nice thought if installing the debian package and 'sudo make install' on the source would result in a similar installation including all these desktop files, icons, and mime associations. m. ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)
Am 6. April 2022 17:27:39 MESZ schrieb Roman Haefeli : > >On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 15:54 +0200, Max wrote: >> I think this might be related: >> >> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1364/commits > >Yeah, I think so, too. It's somewhat related (as the issue is missing files with metainformation for modern Desktops), but the PR is not the solution: the files added by the PR are already present in the Debian packages. > >https://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/metainfocreator/#/guiapp > >I created the attached xml with it. > >Roman > >(I haven't checked whether it's such a file that IOhannes added >recently to the salsa repo. But I will) > I havent checked your file, but I'm pretty sure they are equivalent (having used the same metainfocreator to create mine) mfg.sfg.jfd IOhannes ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)
On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 15:54 +0200, Max wrote: > I think this might be related: > > https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1364/commits Yeah, I think so, too. But apparently that is not all. We need to create also a metadata file describing the application. There is web form for this: https://www.freedesktop.org/software/appstream/metainfocreator/#/guiapp I created the attached xml with it. Roman (I haven't checked whether it's such a file that IOhannes added recently to the salsa repo. But I will) > On 06.04.22 15:29, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: > > On 4/6/22 13:03, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: > > > Any universal packaging changes should be done in Debian > > > directly, > > > though. > > > > i've now added some metadata to the Debian packages (but none are > > uploaded yet). > > > > if somebody (e.g. roman), wants to test them, they can grab my > > changes > > from https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/pd/puredata/ > > > > and see whether this fixes anything. > > > > (please don't upload any packages build from the repository yet; > > but > > feedback is of course welcome) > > > > gfmdas > > IOhannes > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list org.puredata.pd.metainfo.xml Description: XML document signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)
I think this might be related: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1364/commits On 06.04.22 15:29, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 4/6/22 13:03, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: Any universal packaging changes should be done in Debian directly, though. i've now added some metadata to the Debian packages (but none are uploaded yet). if somebody (e.g. roman), wants to test them, they can grab my changes from https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/pd/puredata/ and see whether this fixes anything. (please don't upload any packages build from the repository yet; but feedback is of course welcome) gfmdas IOhannes ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)
On 4/6/22 13:03, Kaj Ailomaa wrote: Any universal packaging changes should be done in Debian directly, though. i've now added some metadata to the Debian packages (but none are uploaded yet). if somebody (e.g. roman), wants to test them, they can grab my changes from https://salsa.debian.org/multimedia-team/pd/puredata/ and see whether this fixes anything. (please don't upload any packages build from the repository yet; but feedback is of course welcome) gfmdas IOhannes OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)
There was some work done by the Ubuntu Studio team for this, but I'm not sure how much of it was actually realized (adding tags to applications that didn't have them). Might be worth a shot to connect with them about that. Any universal packaging changes should be done in Debian directly, though. Most packages in the Ubuntu Universe repo are directly imported from Debian. Canonical does some changes to core packages only - such as Pulseaudio. On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 12:22 PM Roman Haefeli wrote: > Yesterday, I discovered that you cannot install "Pure Data" with the > default graphical "Software" manager on Ubuntu status. > > It looks like the vanilla (non-terminal) way of installing software on > Ubuntu (at least 20.04) is the graphical application gnome-software. > gnome-software works like an app store and apparently also manages > snaps and other formats. However, the list of available applications is > curated and "Pure Data" is not part of it. It doesn't appear in the > section "Audio & Video" nor in the section "Development tools". Even > specifically searching for "Pure Data" or "puredata" doesn't yield any > results. That's not exactly good advertisement! People either have to > install 'synaptic' - which is a graphical frontend for apt - or use the > terminal to the install the 'puredata' package. > > Yet, I'm not sure how this is addressed. But I think we should address > it. > > Someone on #ubuntu posted this link when I asked about the process of > including software in the curated list: > > https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/ > > Roman > > > > On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 09:32 +0200, Robert Grah wrote: > > Gerat news! Thank You! > > > > Am Di, 05 Apr 2022 23:35:37 +0200 Roman Haefeli < > > reduz...@gmail.com> schrieb > > > Hi > > > > > > I added the current version of Pure Data to my personal package > > archive > > > (PPA), so that it is finally possible to get a recent version of > > Pd on > > > Ubuntu without compiling. > > > > > > Kudos goes to IOhannes who maintains the puredata package on > > Debian and > > > who makes sure that the most recent release of Pd is available in > > the > > > backports repository. His work enabled me to just¹ get his package > > > sources and push them to my PPA. > > > > > > I also rewrote the "How to install on Debian/Ubuntu" FAQ page on > > > puredata.into who was referring to the retired apt.puredata.info > > repo > > > and Pd-extended. > > > > > > You find instructions on how to get the most recent version of Pd > > on > > > Debian and on Ubuntu here: > > > > > > https://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian > > > > > > > > > Roman > > > > > > > > > > > > ¹well, a little work was necessary... > > > ___ > > > Pd-announce mailing list > > > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at > > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)
Yesterday, I discovered that you cannot install "Pure Data" with the default graphical "Software" manager on Ubuntu status. It looks like the vanilla (non-terminal) way of installing software on Ubuntu (at least 20.04) is the graphical application gnome-software. gnome-software works like an app store and apparently also manages snaps and other formats. However, the list of available applications is curated and "Pure Data" is not part of it. It doesn't appear in the section "Audio & Video" nor in the section "Development tools". Even specifically searching for "Pure Data" or "puredata" doesn't yield any results. That's not exactly good advertisement! People either have to install 'synaptic' - which is a graphical frontend for apt - or use the terminal to the install the 'puredata' package. Yet, I'm not sure how this is addressed. But I think we should address it. Someone on #ubuntu posted this link when I asked about the process of including software in the curated list: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Distributions/AppStream/ Roman On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 09:32 +0200, Robert Grah wrote: > Gerat news! Thank You! > > Am Di, 05 Apr 2022 23:35:37 +0200 Roman Haefeli < > reduz...@gmail.com> schrieb > > Hi > > > > I added the current version of Pure Data to my personal package > archive > > (PPA), so that it is finally possible to get a recent version of > Pd on > > Ubuntu without compiling. > > > > Kudos goes to IOhannes who maintains the puredata package on > Debian and > > who makes sure that the most recent release of Pd is available in > the > > backports repository. His work enabled me to just¹ get his package > > sources and push them to my PPA. > > > > I also rewrote the "How to install on Debian/Ubuntu" FAQ page on > > puredata.into who was referring to the retired apt.puredata.info > repo > > and Pd-extended. > > > > You find instructions on how to get the most recent version of Pd > on > > Debian and on Ubuntu here: > > > > https://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian > > > > > > Roman > > > > > > > > ¹well, a little work was necessary... > > ___ > > Pd-announce mailing list > > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at > > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > > > > > > ___ > Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)
Gerat news! Thank You! Am Di, 05 Apr 2022 23:35:37 +0200 Roman Haefeli schrieb > Hi > > I added the current version of Pure Data to my personal package archive > (PPA), so that it is finally possible to get a recent version of Pd on > Ubuntu without compiling. > > Kudos goes to IOhannes who maintains the puredata package on Debian and > who makes sure that the most recent release of Pd is available in the > backports repository. His work enabled me to just¹ get his package > sources and push them to my PPA. > > I also rewrote the "How to install on Debian/Ubuntu" FAQ page on > puredata.into who was referring to the retired apt.puredata.info repo > and Pd-extended. > > You find instructions on how to get the most recent version of Pd on > Debian and on Ubuntu here: > > https://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian > > > Roman > > > > ¹well, a little work was necessary... > ___ > Pd-announce mailing list > pd-annou...@lists.iem.at > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce > ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)
Thank you Roman!!! rph-r Le 05/04/2022 à 23:35, Roman Haefeli a écrit : Hi I added the current version of Pure Data to my personal package archive (PPA), so that it is finally possible to get a recent version of Pd on Ubuntu without compiling. Kudos goes to IOhannes who maintains the puredata package on Debian and who makes sure that the most recent release of Pd is available in the backports repository. His work enabled me to just¹ get his package sources and push them to my PPA. I also rewrote the "How to install on Debian/Ubuntu" FAQ page on puredata.into who was referring to the retired apt.puredata.info repo and Pd-extended. You find instructions on how to get the most recent version of Pd on Debian and on Ubuntu here: https://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian Roman ¹well, a little work was necessary... ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
[PD] [PD-announce] Most recent Pd packaged for Ubuntu (and derivatives)
Hi I added the current version of Pure Data to my personal package archive (PPA), so that it is finally possible to get a recent version of Pd on Ubuntu without compiling. Kudos goes to IOhannes who maintains the puredata package on Debian and who makes sure that the most recent release of Pd is available in the backports repository. His work enabled me to just¹ get his package sources and push them to my PPA. I also rewrote the "How to install on Debian/Ubuntu" FAQ page on puredata.into who was referring to the retired apt.puredata.info repo and Pd-extended. You find instructions on how to get the most recent version of Pd on Debian and on Ubuntu here: https://puredata.info/docs/faq/debian Roman ¹well, a little work was necessary... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Pd-announce mailing list pd-annou...@lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
