Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-12-03 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Hey, since the new release fixes many issues we had with labels in iemguis, I'd like to also suggest this one as well, that also allows us to set labels with floats https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/1082 now, if you set a float as a label, it gets truncated to integers, this fixes it!

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-28 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
out certain aspects of the GUI... :) > > On Nov 28, 2021, at 4:05 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 16:05:50 +0100 > From: Christof Ressi > To: Pd-List > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out > Message-ID: <2ec67a1d-1b01-98

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-28 Thread Dan Wilcox
ssage: 1 > Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 16:05:50 +0100 > From: Christof Ressi mailto:i...@christofressi.com>> > To: Pd-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out > Message-ID: <2ec67a1d-1b01-98d2-d1dd-247d33d93...@christofressi.com > &l

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-28 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em dom., 28 de nov. de 2021 às 12:07, Christof Ressi escreveu: > Or should we rather stop uploading test releases to Deken? > don't think so :/ ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-28 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Am 28. November 2021 14:57:53 MEZ schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres : >Em dom., 28 de nov. de 2021 às 04:27, IOhannes m zmölnig >escreveu: > >> Am 28. November 2021 05:59:55 MEZ schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres >right, there's no "*Only show the newest version of a library (treats other >versions

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-28 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em dom., 28 de nov. de 2021 às 04:27, IOhannes m zmölnig escreveu: > Am 28. November 2021 05:59:55 MEZ schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres < > por...@gmail.com>: > >testing 0.52, I realize deken hides all but the latest release, and they > >all show when uncheck "hide foreign architecture". > > >

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread IOhannes m zmölnig
Am 28. November 2021 05:59:55 MEZ schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres : >testing 0.52, I realize deken hides all but the latest release, and they >all show when uncheck "hide foreign architecture". > >looks like a bug, right? No. Looks like intended behaviour. Or did you uncheck the "Only show the

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
testing 0.52, I realize deken hides all but the latest release, and they all show when uncheck "hide foreign architecture". looks like a bug, right? Em dom., 28 de nov. de 2021 às 00:39, Alexandre Torres Porres < por...@gmail.com> escreveu: > Em sáb., 27 de nov. de 2021 às 21:33, Miller

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em sáb., 27 de nov. de 2021 às 21:33, Miller Puckette via Pd-list < pd-list@lists.iem.at> escreveu: > I don't know which way to go on this one... I think it's a bad > idea to have a shortcut for "symbol" since it's more often hit > by accident than on purpose - and it confuses people who make

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em sáb., 27 de nov. de 2021 às 21:59, Christof Ressi escreveu: > On 28.11.2021 01:29, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: > > > I disagree with the "$0" in message box idea. Why not $1 then? > > (Oh, because it already does something different...) > > But the same is true for canvas creation

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Christof Ressi
On 28.11.2021 01:29, Miller Puckette via Pd-list wrote: I disagree with the "$0" in message box idea. Why not $1 then? (Oh, because it already does something different...) But the same is true for canvas creation arguments! $0 is not a creation argument after all, i.e. it is not part of

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em sáb., 27 de nov. de 2021 às 21:29, Miller Puckette escreveu: > I'll leave the "bang~ inlet there - I think it doesn't need to be > documented because it doesn't do anything :) > we should document it does nothing then :) otherwise people can think it does something that it was forgotten to

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I don't know which way to go on this one... I think it's a bad idea to have a shortcut for "symbol" since it's more often hit by accident than on purpose - and it confuses people who make them thinking they're making floats. cheers M On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 10:00:47PM +0100, Roman Haefeli wrote:

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I disagree with the "$0" in message box idea. Why not $1 then? (Oh, because it already does something different...) It would be interestnig to allow message boxes to access canvas creation arguments somehow, but not that way. Meanwhile I adopted the atan2 fix but then had to fix a compileer

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Hmm.. I just finished fixing it to leave it turned off by default (it bothers some people and pleases others, so the tiebreaker is to default to previous behavior). Meanwhile merging the no-select-text PR - I meant to do that earlier but somehow missed it. On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 12:25:41AM

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Dan Wilcox
## Inactive Patch Coords I think it should be on by default as I imagine more people could use it but it should have a disable option somehow for those that don't. I might be wrong in thinking that they are a minority though. Maybe there could be some sort of experimental feature commanding

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
... I'm thinking now to leave it in but have it turned off by default - that way it would be easy to add as a preference later. M On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 09:53:09PM +0100, Dan Wilcox wrote: > Oh and I forgot: > > # Active Patch Cable Highlight > > I think greying out the active patch cable is

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-27 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
Oops, fixed now, thanks. On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 12:34:39AM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > hey, release notes says "libpd included as part of the Pd distribution. A > test libpd project is included in ../pd/libpdtest." but I can't find this. > > Em qua., 24 de nov. de 2021 às 21:38,

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-24 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
hey, release notes says "libpd included as part of the Pd distribution. A test libpd project is included in ../pd/libpdtest." but I can't find this. Em qua., 24 de nov. de 2021 às 21:38, Lucas Cordiviola < lucard...@hotmail.com> escreveu: > > On 11/24/2021 5:50 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: > > #

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-24 Thread Lucas Cordiviola
On 11/24/2021 5:50 PM, Dan Wilcox wrote: # gatoms Has the selection behavior changed? I see the gatom which receives the current focus now highlights but defocus seems to be inconsistent, at least to me. I would think that clicking into the atom, editing with the keyboard, then pressing

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-24 Thread Óscar Santis
n "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out (Alexandre Torres Porres) > 2. Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out (Christof Ressi) >3. Re: Pd 0.52 test 2 is out (Antoine Rousseau) > > >

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-24 Thread Dan Wilcox
is not overridable, oops!)... > >> On Nov 23, 2021, at 7:27 PM, pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at >> <mailto:pd-list-requ...@lists.iem.at> wrote: >> >> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2021 14:06:02 -0300 >> From: Alexandre Torres Porres mailto:por...@gmail.com>> &

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-24 Thread Dan Wilcox
;> > To: Miller Puckette mailto:m...@ucsd.edu>> > Cc: Pd-List mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomati

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 às 18:30, Roman Haefeli escreveu: > But then, no need to fight over it, since these days it is so easy to > drag them small/big. > I forget ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management ->

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 14:06 -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > - the symbol box by default now is much wider, I always have to make > it shorter, who needs that big boxes most the time? can't we make the > same as before? I like it bigger. I usually make the number boxes bigger for them to

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Christof Ressi
On 23.11.2021 21:54, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 às 17:42, Christof Ressi escreveu: This is indeed fixed in IEM GUIs, but not in *gatom* labels. hmmm, I see, not a regression (same happened in 0.51-4), but definitely some worth fixing as long as we're at

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Tue, 2021-11-23 at 18:56 +0100, Christof Ressi wrote: > > I think *changing* existing shortcuts is a bad idea. So I think we > should leave the shortcuts as they were and use cmd+6 for the new > list atom. After all, a list atom is *not* a drop-in replacement for > a symbol atom (numbers and

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Christof Ressi
It seems we need to force add "\" like symbol boxes do in these cases This would also be possible. Probably better than silently bashing to individual symbols. (but not on adding a space, cause we usually want spaces in the list box). We can't really automatically escape them anyway because

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 às 17:42, Christof Ressi escreveu: > This is indeed fixed in IEM GUIs, but not in *gatom* labels. > hmmm, I see, not a regression (same happened in 0.51-4), but definitely some worth fixing as long as we're at it. Now $0-x becoming #0-x is a regression. Well, I put it

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Christof Ressi
This is indeed fixed in IEM GUIs, but not in *gatom* labels. IEM GUIs: can use # in labels and send/receive symbols gatoms: # in labels and send/receive symbols are replaced by $. (Up to Pd 0.51-4 it worked in send/receive symbols at least...) On 23.11.2021 21:24, Alexandre Torres Porres

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 às 14:59, Christof Ressi escreveu: > - if I type "hi, there" in a list box I get an unescaped (and seemingly > ilegal) "," symbol. > > Generally, list atoms contain FUDI strings and colons, semicolons and > dollars have special meanings. You have to escape them

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 às 17:30, Christof Ressi escreveu: > it's the addition of "$0" for messages, seems like there's something still > "wrong" with it? > > (...) it seems some people have a problem with it on a conceptual level > (which I never quite understood). But on a practical level

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Christof Ressi
it's the addition of "$0" for messages, seems like there's something still "wrong" with it? Personally, I think it would simplify so many patches and I would really like to see this happening. This has been discussed at length in the mailing lists several times and it seems some people have a

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 às 14:59, Christof Ressi escreveu: > As a side note, we still can't have "#" in atom labels :-( > Can't confirm this, I can type "C#" or set it via label messages. Also tried "#-4" and it worked (tested in [cnv] and [bng]).

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
And as for the 'long overdue', there's this fix that's been bugging me since Pd 0.46 when I first reported it that really complicates some patches with delay interactions https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/708 Em ter., 23 de nov. de 2021 às 17:10, Alexandre Torres Porres <

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
and now for things we also usually ask in response to test release announcements :) I'm just curious on why this feature has been held for so long since it's been flagged for inclusion back in the 0.49 release (and now 0.52), it's the addition of "$0" for messages, seems like there's something

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Antoine Rousseau
> > leave the shortcuts as they were and use cmd+6 for the new list atom > +1 ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Christof Ressi
Hey, On 23.11.2021 18:06, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: Ok, as the first email to the list about it, here are some thoughts for starters :) - Now connections get grayed out when making new connections. Haven't really gotten used to it, what's everyone else idea on this? Can we make this an

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Ok, as the first email to the list about it, here are some thoughts for starters :) - Now connections get grayed out when making new connections. Haven't really gotten used to it, what's everyone else idea on this? Can we make this an optional feature to check/activate somewhere and leave the

Re: [PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-23 Thread Miller Puckette via Pd-list
I think my e-mails aren't making it to pd-announce for some reason. Anyway, yes, 0.52-0 test 2 is out :) Miller On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 11:20:16PM -0300, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > Test it out. http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html > > > now, Miller, I haven't seen announcements from

[PD] Pd 0.52 test 2 is out

2021-11-22 Thread Alexandre Torres Porres
Test it out. http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.html now, Miller, I haven't seen announcements from Pd-announce for the test versions as usual, how come? I have some issues I have to report, by the way. cheers ___ Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list