Re: [PD] Pd refcards

2010-12-13 Thread Laurent Willkomm
Hi all, As seen yesterday, it would be nice to have [midirealtimein] on the refcard. I think [list] objects are missing too. L.Willkomm ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -

[PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Hi Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards to inappropriate/aggressive comments? ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
On 2010-12-13 11:30, ALAN BROOKER wrote: Hi Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards to inappropriate/aggressive comments? nobody moderates the mailing list (this is by intention) and the rules are set out at http://puredata.info/community/lists/Netiquette/ mfgasdr

Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread Derek Holzer
Hmmm nothing about trolling there. Should be. D. On 12/13/10 11:33 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: On 2010-12-13 11:30, ALAN BROOKER wrote: Hi Who moderates the mailing list and what are the rules in regards to inappropriate/aggressive comments? nobody moderates the mailing list (this

Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread jurgen
I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if he's not happy extremely violent and inappropriate. Do you think that your own way of reacting to posts here should be elevated to become standard of the entire group? What an idea! Everybody's contribution and comments to the

Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread ALAN BROOKER
Jurgen: I don't agree that it is a “ extremely violent” comment because it is a suggestion rather than any sort of threat? Perhaps you be a bit more specific by what you mean. In any case, it is reasonable thing to say- if you are not happy with the people here don't subscribe to the list. “If

Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread patko
Hi, the ones that don't like trolling or critics should use brain to relativize, instead of using emotions like in despotic societies. - jurgen noise@gmail.com a écrit : I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if he's not happy extremely violent and

Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread patko
- ALAN BROOKER alan.brooker2...@gmail.com a écrit : Would like to explain just how useful and constructive ydegoyon's previous comment was in that “there are only three collaborators and you call that a community”? What is the point is saying that? You must agree it is a comment to

[PD] [netro] is a network synchronising [metro]

2010-12-13 Thread Chris McCormick
Hello PdPartyAnimals, I am super excited to announce the early release of an abstraction for pd0.43 that I have been working on. It's called [netro] and it is like a [metro] which attempts to synchronise with its buddies across the network. It's very easy to use, just drop it in your patch and

Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, jurgen wrote: I personally found your suggestion to ydegoyon to unsubscribe if he's not happy extremely violent and inappropriate. At the risk of sounding a bit like Degoyon, I suggest that you open some history books, to see what extreme violence looks like. Then,

Re: [PD] [netro] is a network synchronising [metro]

2010-12-13 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Hi Chris, only works on 0.43? Best regards José 2010/12/13 Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx: Hello PdPartyAnimals, I am super excited to announce the early release of an abstraction for pd0.43 that I have been working on. It's called [netro] and it is like a [metro] which attempts to

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, sevy wrote: this basically shows you have 3 collaborators and you call it a 'community' this basically shows you can't see further than a single webpage ; and you think of it as relevant insight, postable on pd-list.

Re: [PD] [netro] is a network synchronising [metro]

2010-12-13 Thread Chris McCormick
Yep, only 0.43 (msp; i think extended did it earlier) will send udp packets to a broadcast ip. Chris. Jose Luis Santorcuato santorcuat...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Chris, only works on 0.43? Best regards José 2010/12/13 Chris McCormick ch...@mccormick.cx: Hello PdPartyAnimals, I am super

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
what ? again? because i criticize the structure of this fake community? because i protest against the way decisions are taken? this is immature? i will not qualify your comment here, it's just very low. and saying 'if you don't like people on this then subscribe ( i guess it was unsubscribe

[PD] Plugin for 0.43 to have a gtk-looking open dialog

2010-12-13 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
I eventually had a look into the GUI plug-in stuff and came up with this. It uses a zenity-inspired gtk binary to make the dialogue (not particularly finesse, but easier thank tcl/gtk). Source and binary as well as the tcl plugin here:

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
because i protest against the way decisions are taken? did you ever see here any decision that was submitted to a vote? ( for example like which libraries should be included in extended ? or if the chord patches should be orange and with an arrow? )

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread ALAN BROOKER
You make a good point, I would support you on this as it is constructive criticism. Taking the piss out of people is just not good . all the best. Are you still maintaining PiDiP? On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 4:10 PM, ydego...@gmail.com ydego...@gmail.comwrote: because i protest against the

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread ALAN BROOKER
* Downloads for PD extended from 2010-12-06 to 2010-12-13 for windows: 1607 Downloads for PD extended from 2010-12-06 to 2010-12-13 for OS X: 841 Downloads for PD extended from 2010-12-06 to 2010-12-13 for Debian: 6 so the total for downloads over a 7 day period across all platforms is

Re: [PD] mailing list

2010-12-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I appreciate the concern, but honestly I think the best solution is to just ignore the trolling. If its too much, may I suggest filtering the list in your mailer? .hc On Dec 13, 2010, at 7:02 AM, ALAN BROOKER wrote: Jurgen: I don't agree that it is a “ extremely violent” comment

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
note exactly what i'm talking about : my libraries ( pidip and unauthorized ) cannot be included because of their license... good, i'm happy of that now i see in the new list that : * pdp is not included some other libraries have never been included like : * pdvjtools : never included, as

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Sun, 12 Dec 2010, Husk 00 wrote: On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: Some of us have restrictions about the use of software. If our contract says we have to teach only free software (because the course is explicitly about free software, for example),

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
yves, Your contributions are welcome in Pd-extended, you have recently chosen again to work against it. That's your choice. A couple of points: - autoconf is welcome in Pd-extended (see Gem, pdp, zexy, oscx, etc.) - pdvjtools, pdp_opencv, and pix_opencv all could be added if someone

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Hey Alan, Thanks for the offer! Maintaining a library mostly means keeping track of the issues and seeing that they get addressed. Things range from making releases, posting releases, fixing bugs, accepting patches, etc. It can also mean doing all of the work, if you so choose. I

Re: [PD] [netro] is a network synchronising [metro]

2010-12-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Ah, that's fun! Sounds like a great object for use on phones and tablets. .hc On Dec 13, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: Hello PdPartyAnimals, I am super excited to announce the early release of an abstraction for pd0.43 that I have been working on. It's called [netro] and it

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: - autoconf is welcome in Pd-extended (see Gem, pdp, zexy, oscx, etc.) He's talking about the opposite : is autoconf required in Pd-extended ? ___ | Mathieu Bouchard

[PD] msd-editor persistence question

2010-12-13 Thread J bz
Hi All, Finally got msd-editor working (I think) and I have a few questions...(hopefully not too dumb) Most immediate is how do I save the structure I have created as a pd patch? I'm aware I can save the DS as a txt file but does that mean that I have to go through the editor everytime I want to

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
A long standing complaint of Pd-extended is that it is hard to know what all is in it and how it got there. Plus the old build system is a bug ugly whack thing that is not understandable We've made the library template and that's working well so far. We Here are some concrete steps to

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Derek Holzer
Seems like the power to decide what goes into Pd-extended lies in the same place it does in every other free software project out there: with those willing to do the work. Seems fair to me. D. On 12/13/10 7:35 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Here are some concrete steps to take on to help

Re: [PD] Osc phase and number of periods for subsonic touch-music

2010-12-13 Thread Andy Farnell
Hi Daniel, Sorry for the late reply on this subject. To do exactly as you describe it is possible to take the cosine or sine of a line over period. Use [vline~] as it is much more flexible. Take a line running from 0 to 1 in some time, and use the cosine function to obtain exactly one

Re: [PD] msd-editor persistence question

2010-12-13 Thread Frank Barknecht
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 05:53:25PM +, J bz wrote: Most immediate is how do I save the structure I have created as a pd patch? I'm aware I can save the DS as a txt file but does that mean that I have to go through the editor everytime I want to use the structure? If you choose the

[PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-13 Thread Andrew Faraday
Hey All I've had a bit of a daydream about a further development in PD. Could an expression be placed into the arguments of an object, or even a named receive become part of expr I suppose the dream would be to have something like [osc~ (pitch * 2)] instead of [r pitch] | [* 2] | [osc~]

Re: [PD] Pd refcards

2010-12-13 Thread Karim Barkati
Yep Jonathan, it's basically help-intro.pd... Nope Mathieu, I didn't know about these translation files. It's very interesting and it could have saved me some questions on translation issues ! But it's some consolation to me that usually manual adjustments stay necessary to fit on one or two

[PD] pix_frei0r

2010-12-13 Thread Patrick Pagano
Is there a possibility of getting the frei0r plugins working in GEM? http://www.piksel.org/frei0r It would be nice to have a version of it - a minimalistic plugin API for video effects Frei0r is a minimalistic plugin API for video sources and filters. The behaviour of the effects can be

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
As far as improving documentation, I'd say every object in Pd-ext should be documented clearly in a help patch that outlines: 1) what the object does 2) what its arguments are (and how they function) 3) what messages are accepted at each inlet, and output at each outlet (and the meaning of those

Re: [PD] Plugin for 0.43 to have a gtk-looking open dialog

2010-12-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 17:12 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: I eventually had a look into the GUI plug-in stuff and came up with this. It uses a zenity-inspired gtk binary to make the dialogue (not particularly finesse, but easier thank tcl/gtk). Source and binary as well as the tcl plugin

Re: [PD] PD OOP?

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Jmax Phoenix does this.  If I recall correctly it breaks the nested list feature in Gridflow. But considering your [osc~ (pitch * 2)] example-- what would happen if you change the value of pitch?  The value of the [osc~] object's argument is assigned to be the initial frequency only when the

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Mon, 13 Dec 2010, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: As far as improving documentation, I'd say every object in Pd-ext should be documented clearly in a help patch that outlines: I'd say every class in Pd-ext should be documented clearly in a help patch that outlines: 1) what the object does 1)

Re: [PD] [netro] is a network synchronising [metro]

2010-12-13 Thread Chris McCormick
On Dec 13, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: Hello PdPartyAnimals, http://code.google.com/p/pd-netro/ On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 12:28:02PM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: Ah, that's fun! Sounds like a great object for use on phones and tablets. Unfortunately Android is doing

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-13 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Wed, 8 Dec 2010, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Gridflow have also recommended, but still can not quite decipher the code. What can I answer to this ? (Can you ask some specific questions instead ?) ___ | Mathieu Bouchard

[PD] chaos compiled for macosx

2010-12-13 Thread ronni montoya
Hello, do anybody have the chaos library from ben boggart compiled for macosx intel? thanks in advance R. ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] chaos compiled for macosx

2010-12-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
Running make pd_darwin should do it, if you have the source. .hc On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 18:38 -0800, ronni montoya wrote: Hello, do anybody have the chaos library from ben boggart compiled for macosx intel? thanks in advance R. ___

Re: [PD] new license for pidip and unauthorized WAS: pd-pidip into Debian

2010-12-13 Thread Jose Luis Santorcuato
Thanks Mathieu, well, I've been tracking with pix_background and pix_blob, also with the controversial PiDiP library, is very sad to have problems... but...life ... I programming on processing and arduino and yet can not understand all the code a gridflow,I spent so not much time, I teach in the

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
ola, - pdvjtools, pdp_opencv, and pix_opencv all could be added if someone does the work. You've made it clear that my contributions there are not welcome there, so I stopped trying. nah nah, you've overwritten all our building system and then asked if it was ok... there's a big difference

Re: [PD] pix_frei0r

2010-12-13 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
you know it works with pdp_frei0r part of pdvjtools Patrick Pagano wrote: Is there a possibility of getting the frei0r plugins working in GEM? http://www.piksel.org/frei0r It would be nice to have a version of it - a minimalistic plugin API for video effects Frei0r is a minimalistic

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
that's really crazy what you did here : http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/unauthorized sorry i haven't seen any recent case of exploitation that reaches that level respect! sevy ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at Date: Tuesday, December 14,

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread ydego...@gmail.com
you maintain unauthorized ( free version, if free ever meant anything ) and pmpd ? wow, if that's not using other people's work, i dunno what fresh hell is this... very good takeover, very good semester result, you can apply for the employee of the month ydego...@gmail.com wrote: that's

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 05:01 +0100, ydego...@gmail.com wrote: that's really crazy what you did here : http://puredata.info/community/projects/software/unauthorized sorry i haven't seen any recent case of exploitation that reaches that level respect! sevy I thought you might want to

Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43

2010-12-13 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mon, 2010-12-13 at 20:25 -0800, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Tue, 12/14/10, Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca wrote: From: Mathieu Bouchard ma...@artengine.ca Subject: Re: [PD] libraries in Pd-extended 0.43 To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: PD List pd-list@iem.at,

[PD] 0.43 nightly build

2010-12-13 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I took a stab at using the 0.43 nightly build on Lenny. The package installed ok and here's what I found: * when I first ran pd, I got an error because it was looking for pd-gui.tcl et al in /usr/tcl, which didn't exist. So I copied everything from the /usr/lib/pd-extended/tcl and then it

Re: [PD] Pd refcards

2010-12-13 Thread Karim Barkati
You're right Pedro, let's share the source ! http://puredata.info/Members/kbarkati/pd-refcard-tex/view It's a LaTeX file, essentially using 'multicol' and 'tabularx' packages. If you make new cards, please tell me so that my students can get them ;-) Cheers, Karim Le 12 déc. 2010 à 19:39,