Hallo!
i just made a synth which makes some really nice tones when i feed it
really high frequencies. (midi notes 150-300)
question is, will this sound the same on all computers, or do
different systems handle such high frequencies differently?
Hm ... it depends in the sampling frequency.
Hallo!
is possible to process audio in pd and work with gem
simultaneously???.
yes, of course ...
768 ram., but always i obtanin clicks and interference
in audio when I apply a process in gem...like change
from videoA.mov to videoB.mov...is a simply task but
audio generate a click. may be
Hallo!
How could I turn on and off DSP of a graph, local patch or object?
I know [ ; pd dsp 1 ] message work for the whole pd process... but
what if I want for exemple turn on/off a bonk~ object inside a graph on
a child process just when I need it? Can't I save memory with this?
you will
Hallo!
If you want to draw a logarithmic spectrum with only native pd objects
see the attached patch ...
LG
Georg
#N canvas 265 153 333 190 10;
#N canvas 88 49 872 789 FFT_Analyse 0;
#X obj 101 102 inlet~;
#X obj 101 332 *~;
#X obj 132 331 *~;
#X obj 110 356 +~;
#X obj 111 377 powtodb~;
#N
Hallo!
That's a nice patch! It should be included in Pd-extended or somewhere
as a fully documented object. My only suggestion is that I think it
of course - you can include it!
should use 0.00 to 1.00 to represent the temporal percentage. Except
you are right ...
a more beautiful
Hallo!
It is a C++ lib I think.
Does it change something?
You mean if it is a problem when you use C++ ?
No - there are various externals written in C++ ...
E.g. all the flext externals, and if you want to be independet of flext
you can look at PDContainer or readanysf e.g.
I am not sure
Hallo!
- load up a whole bunch of samples (or floats, or symbols)
- group the samples (or floats, or symbols) by tagging them
- be able to call up any sample/float/symbol with a particular tag,
possibly randomly.
i'm thinking something along the lines of a database object, which i
could
Hallo!
pd schrieb:
hi list,
how can I change numbers into an audio signal?
(the opposite ofadc~ - en~ - = numbers - ? - dac~)
[sig~]
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I'm on a project where i need live video input.
i work with linux/pd/~/hid/pdp.
and with my cheap webcam (creative instant)
i have no problems, but for this project i would prefer have a better
Video-quality, i have a Sony Dvcam here, where i think it will give me better
Hallo Marius!
still no sound, or music: feel free to add some. I also thought of
connecting to a pd-streaming server like the iem pd radio??? so if you
well, would be nice, but the pd radio has some major hardware-problems,
so it won't be up again that soon ... :(
LG
Georg
Hallo!
/usr/local/pd/lib/pd/extra/Gem.pd_linux: libmpeg.so.1: cannot open
shared object file: No such file or directory
Gem: can't load library
[...]
what`s the problem?
it seems that you don't have libmpeg ...
how did you install pd and all the externals ?
because if you are on ubuntu
Hallo!
i installed about
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2006-11-14/Pd-0.39.2-extended-2006-11-14-linux-i686-ubuntu-dapper-i386.tar.bz2
okay, so then you will also need libmpeg, because that's not included ...
- apt-get install libmpeg
(or something similar - I don't know how the
Hallo!
So, can someone explain how I can have the same character showing in the
symbol box but not rendering out the same value into the [text3d]
object (å from a text file, and å typed directly into the object). If
this is a little confusing Id be happy to explain more. Im very confused.
Hallo!
no. I'm using the help example that came with the binaries
[bang]
|
[openpanel]
|
[read -resize $1 array1]
|
[sndfiler]
Ah - I think I know whats the problem:
in an earlier version of [sndfiler] the arguments were in a different
order - so I guess you still have the old binary !
Hallo!
to make the result looking better i'm searching for a function to
average this jittering out (like a function most hardware oscilloscopes
have)
[...]
i can avarage over three blocks, but i need more than that
maybe a recursive solution could help me too but i'm not sure how to do
Hallo!
Has anyone done the job out there ?
Or does anyone have hints how i could manage to do so ?
I think one of the easiest ways is to do it in python with pyext!
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Hm ... what do you want to say ?
You want polymorphism ?
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I only found some soundfonts on the Internet. Does anyone know a way to
extract the samples from a soundfont?
hm ... don't know ...
But there is also the fluidsynth external for pd (it's called fluid, by
frank barknecht) with that you can play the soundfonts in pd.
And here
Hallo!
my request is to remove this limitation of pd:
error: soundfiler_read: truncated to 400 elements
is it possible to make it endless? if not then a ./configure option
would be neat or maybe hans you can do something for the devel version?
i would say computers can compute at least
Hallo Hans+list!
I just added PDContainer to the build system and have some questions:
o) I have to use g++, otherwise I cannot link the binary - is this okay
for the compile farm ?
o) is it now, with the [declare] object, still necessary to make a
binary out of each pd object ?
(I made now
Hallo Mathieu!
i'm unsubscribing from: pd-list pd-dev pd-announce pd-ot
That's sad.
Sorry if I ask this: but why ? (I'm only curious ...)
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i'm curious, what would be the projects that you'd propose? how should
it be integrated into the development process of pd?
That would depend on who was interested. There is plenty to do, that's
for sure. The whole reason I would do this is to make sure that it
would get integrated
Hallo Frank!
Thank you and also to the others who replied off-list!
Can you commit this into CVS ? (is that allowed from the license ?)
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Hallo!
I just wondered; is it intentional that there is no sound on the first
track (convention trailer (XXkunstkabel))?
hm ... no ... that's sad !
On all DVDs I saw there was sound on the first track ...
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Hallo!
This is embarrassing for me. I didn't test very well before posting that
email: When i play it on my computer there indeed is sound (while plying
it on the standalone dvd-player i have in reach there wasn't). I
apologize very much!
no problem !
Even better would have been some kind
Hallo!
Title pretty much says it all... none of the mtx objects help files
seem to be in the builds. I haven't updated my dev layout in a while
but they're present in externals/iem/iemmatrix/doc and abs here.
Also having the creation issue when using the symbolic representations
of operators,
Hallo!
BTW: what is the difference between iemmatrix and iem_matrix in CVS ?
Is one deprecated ?
LG
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Hallo!
Title pretty much says it all... none of the mtx objects help files
seem to be in the builds. I haven't updated my dev layout in a while
but they're present in externals/iem/iemmatrix/doc and abs here.
Okay, I have added iemmatrix to the buildsystem - it should work now
(and also much
Hallo!
Is there an external for OSX for shoutcast/icecast~
I know Yves has one for Linux and apparently Olaf has withdrawn all his
stuff?
It's in /pd-cvs/externals/olafmatt (shoutamp~ and shoutcast~).
LG
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Hallo!
Well.. nevermind. I reinstalled extended 0.38-4 and now it is working.
Hooray! I can't wait to work with it. But... I would still like to
know how to compile so I can use it with a more recent version of Pd.
I added iemmatrix now also in the libdir format - so you should also be
Hallo!
Without any clue I guess there is a good reason why external sources
have moved into another format, may I ask why?
I don't know if I understand you correct - but the source of the
externals did not move, only the buildsystem changed (the packaging of
all the externals ...)
LG
Hallo!
is possible to connect pd and max/msp in a net with
any object similar to netsend or other?(in the same
computer or in 2 computers in network.
E.g. with OSC !
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Hallo!
It warns me that pthreadVC.dll wasnt found, so I cant use vst~, does
anyone out there has the same problem and know what I should do?
okay - I guess because in PD extended an other version of pthread is
used (the one for gcc/mingw) - but maybe hans knows more about this
problem ...
Hallo list, Hans !
I just tried to use the latest Pd-extended for linux and have some
problems how to load libraries (e.g. iemmatrix):
When I start Pd with
pd -lib iemmatrix
I get the following message in the console:
iemmatrix: can't load library
and I cannot access the objects directly -
Hallo!
Ah thanks, I just sent an email about Linux on Debian, but now I saw
this. I see there is a Debian stable package, so, has anyone tried a
recent Debian stable from the autobuild? Should I just download the
latest one?
yes, you can download the latest one for debian stable !
LG
Georg
Hallo!
load libdirs. Are you sure, you are running a version which supports
it? Maybe some other pd is called, like in /usr/local? What does type
-a pd say?
no, I checked it and I use the pd-extended pd ...
however, I have various pd's installed, so type -a says:
type -a pd
pd is /usr/bin/pd
Hallo!
i hoped threadlib (by georg holzmann?) would solve all my problems :-)
tried it with
[; pd open patch-name.pd path( and [; pd-subpatchname obj 10 10
abstraction-name args(
one didn't work (i think pd open) and the other one gave me weird
sounding dropouts.
You could try to make all
Hallo Raul!
I want to present some information at my PD site about my Diploarbeit at
IEM.
[...]
I have thought it could be interesting for people who is interested in
wavelet transform and audio processing. Any criticism and feedback is
welcomed.
nice work ! - Can I add your patches to the
Hallo!
it works not, if I start
pd -lib libdir -lib iemmatrix
sorry, a typo - it should read:
it works NOW, if I start
pd -lib libdir -lib iemmatrix
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Hallo!
What would be really sweet would be to mod that script to have a
search function that matches against a pd-vanilla object list, and if
the object is not included, find what library it needs, then add an
[import needed_object] to the required help file.
Yes, good idea - but it won't
Hallo Martin!
Trying to build Pd-extended from CVS (packages/linuxmake/make install)
and compilation hangs at
mrpeach/str/str.c
That one will only compile if pd is patched to use strings. I tried to
make it quietly not compile when the patch isn't applied but I guess
it's just breaking
Hallo!
Usually acoustic measurements are done with impulses, AFAIK. An
ideal impulse actually has all frequencies in it, so it's useful for
that kind of thing. Plus it's easy to differentiate between the
initial signal and the room effects just based on time.
Actually I think,
Hallo!
so, we need to imagine a n dimentional input parametter, link to m
dimentional output.
this active mapping space implementation should be quite easy once
i've got time + iem matrix.
I didn't get much from the rest of the thread, so sorry if this is not
relevant:
I also tried to do
Hallo Daniel!
Im making up a list of candidate european universities to persue higher
education in music technology. I only know UPF and IEM. Can anyone
recomend universities that have programs/ research in this wide field?
All this onfo will bevery very appreciated. Im now in southamerica
Servus !
is there a way to write audio into an array at variable speed? Like in
tabread4~, controlled by another audio signal (read: phasor~)
I don't know what you mean with variable speed - you can write audio
in an array as variable as you want ...
What do you want to do ?
LG
Georg
Hallo!
Maybe some people can give more feature requests which could be
implemented within the google summer of code project.
So that in the end we might have something that someone (Hans, Miller,
IEM ?) can propose to google.
For pd-vanilla I guess it is hard to make proposals, because (as
Hallo!
I'm in the middle of downloading the PD Workshop files from:
https://www.cs.tcd.ie/~wardn1/PD_workshop/
Is there, by chance, a zip file floating around that has all of the
contents of this workshop? I'm 30 minutes into downloading them
manually and I've only finished the
Hallo!
What would be great is if there would be a nice php script that could
automate that process, and create a downloadable zip file snapshot of
the current workshop files.
what do you mean with current workshop files ? Is this collection a
work in progress ?
(and this process was
Hallo!
As also IOhannes said, that he would be a mentor for the GEM projects, I
started now to make a WIKI, where the projects we discussed are discribed.
This page must be presented to google (description of puredata and of
the single projects) - so maybe some english native speaker can
Hallo!
Hey, why not have the Pd website be a project for SOC as well?
I'm sure there would be some young designers aching to test their
skills and give us a good PR representation.
Is that acceptable to the terms of the event?
No, unfortunately no documentation work will be accepted ...
Hallo!
i'd like to nominate reviving and updating PdVST as another idea. or if
someone has another idea for doing it better than the approach pdvst
used, some soft of new Pluggo for PD idea.
Well, I guess updating PdVST is a little bit too small ...
And don't know much if a Pluggo for PD
Hallo!
Well, I guess updating PdVST is a little bit too small ...
not if done correctly, it should be portable, support multiple plugin
formats (ladsa, dx, vst), etc. would be a really good summer project.
you are right ... but aren't there already hosts for all the plugins ?
i am
Hallo!
I'm trying to install a new PDContainer, however while building goes
fine, loading it makes Pd complain:
thanks frank - this was a bug introduced because pdcontainer also
compiles with the Pd-Extended buildsystem now!
It is fixed in cvs ...
LG
Georg
Hallo!
so imo, such a project should be coordinated with miller in order to
avoid that the effort is wasted, just because he doesn't incorporate the
changes.
of course - and IMHO that's the problem with that project ...
LG
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Audacity - LADSPA jack client plugin - jack - PD - jack - LADSPA
jack client plugin - Audacity
But AFAIK this is already possible - at least in Ardour I did something
like that (but the problem is, that you cannot automate the parameters ..)
LG
Georg
Hallo Kyle!
Please describe this, as you just did, again in the WIKI.
I already added a little bit of technical describtion (as described by
Tim) !
LG
Georg
There already is a jack VST and Audio Unit for OSX, that's not the
issue. What I really want is to just be able to run one master app
Hallo!
I exchanged emails with Olaf Matthes and he said that he is no longer
doing Pd-related projects, but that someone could take the Max source
and port it to Pd again.
Yes, I also talked with Olaf last year and he said, that he doesn't
program for pd anymore and removed all his websides
Hallo!
I think (if my memory's not confused) that's actually the crux of it,
something about the licensing doesn't permit it to be in CVS?
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2005-11/032777.html
Okay, I have the source now ...
But I can't see license problems (but I am not really
Hallo!
Objection! (Phoenix Wright)
This license is non-open-source in that it does not allow any
commercial use. We must not have this in the CVS.
Okay - but what is then e.g. Qt: it is open source (GPL) but when you
use it in commercial products you need a commercial licence ...
LG
Georg
Hallo!
Just to clear the smoke a bit more that is created by the word
commercial: Everything that is included in a Linux distribution,
which can be bought for money - like Redhat or Novell/Suse and even
Debian -, then becomes commercial software: the Linux kernel, MySQL,
Apache, Audacity,
Hallo!
short answer: no
long answer: it's a bit better with my sndfiler, but the answer is still
no
well, it depends ... try out sndfile (in pd-cvs/externals/tb/sndfiler)
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Maybe Georg's [sndfile] would help but his post didn't give any info
on what it does.
it's not by me ...
And the problem with it is, that altough the reading of the soundfile is
threaded, the dsp chain needs to be recompiled, which can cause audio
dropouts when you have big patches
Hallo!
[soundfiler] is for loading. Its limit is that it blocks everything untill
it finishes loading. Reading a file in realtime is NOT an alternative. The
alternative would be an object capable of threaded loading, but still,
loading as fast as possible, not reading at a certain realtime
Hallo!
Now when i try to open the patch PD just crashes
immediately. This has never happened to me before so
im not exactly sure what to do!
try to open your patch with:
pd -noloadbang
then you can look through the patch and try out where's the problem ...
Ive attached the patch if
Hallo!
I wish I had known about GSOC before I graduated in June. Maybe if/when
I find/apply to a good computer music masters somewhere/sometime I'll be
able to take part. Not to mention I would really like to have a version
of PDVST that worked with Ableton...
Well, if you have no
Hallo!
Just curious, but is there a reason why the latest extended version
is still using 39? Is there something different about 40 that prevents
us from using it with the extended packages? It seems that there are
the latest extended version is using .40 - see
Hallo!
started to get my usb-cam working with pd/gem under a winxp-system;
is there some documentation on objects?
which libraries are best to start with?
Libraries: Gem
Read through the help patch of [pix_video] !
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Hallo!
I am looking for PD objects and/or abstractions
to do HRTF filtering.
Any ideas on where to get them?
2 possibilities:
- use the earplug~ external (in cvs/externals/earplug~)
- use binaural ambisonic
I am just making some workshop patches on how to do that for the linux
audio
Hallo!
Is the author of this external also on this list ?
Otherwise I will try to contact him to get these into the pd cvs ...
Hm ... I just have noticed that he didn't publish the source ... so I
will ask him ...
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Hallo!
does anyone know if there is by any chance an external to
train/model/use a self-organising map within PD?
Yes, you can find all the neural net externals in pd-cvs/externals/ann.
The som should be in src/ann_som.c ...
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just a short question about iemmatrix: is there a mtx_div? at least in
hm ... I don't think so - just use mul !
pd-ext I cannot find it. and what is the difference between mtx_* and
mtx_.*? or does mtx_* just not work with two matrices?
This is like in octave/matlab: .*
Hallo!
i have a question about using vbap in 3D. I am confused about the
azimuth/elevation handling if using 3-Dimesnions.
I am trying to arrange speakers in a simple cube-setting.
4 speakers in a square on the floor and 4 attached to the ceiling.
define_loudspeakers 3 8 -90 -45 0
Hallo!
Again, I got super-lucky and I'm doing some more touring, this time
with a really cool indie pop band. In April we'll be in London,
Brighton, Paris, Berlin and Vienna. In May and June we're doing
When are you in Vienna ?
LG
Georg
Hallo Marius!
for any reason the flatspace externals are not created by only using the
objectname. for example mass2D. it is created when I type
flatspace/mass2D. however, it is also not possible to add flatspace to
the startup paths, at least that does not solve the problem. any idea,
Hallo!
libdir: can't load library.
uidohotswos.
jodesiswor ;)
However, can you try pd -verbose and see what happens ?
LG
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Hallo!
ok found the problem. I did not exchange the preferences file. so all
the paths were still set to test7. but acually that is a problem,
because I add a lot of my own paths and I don't want to add them
everytime when I change the pd version. is it possible to use additional
Hallo!
Can I do import import?
Just joking, but as far as I understand patches using import
need at least one preference line (unless you have
import.pd_linux already in the default path) and one external.
Of course ... but import is in the default path (in latest extended).
LG
Georg
Hallo!
I wonder: How should we deal with the thousands of abstractions that
have been created in the ten years since Pd was invented? To avoid
having to rewrite every patch, some kind of central path preference
mechanism still will be necessary, I guess.
hm ... how do you mean that ?
They
Hallo!
No, I mean the other way around: What about old abstractions, that
maybe use externals or other abstractions, but don't have any [import]
or [declare] inside? I have literally thousands of these on my disk
(not all written by me, of course).
Okay, I undestand, me too ... you could
Hallo!
what's wrong with having abstractions in the same directory as the binary?
Yes, I also think that should be the way - as it's also working like
this with all the other externals ...
e.g.
extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux
extra/Gem/hsv2rgb.pd
imho ideally, [import Gem] would find
Hallo!
quick tanh looks good. i put in a dollar and my cpu gave me 96 cents change!
I did not follow the whole thread, so maybe this was already said.
But I would also do the tanh interpolation with a wavetable.
You can simply once use this function to generate the wavetable and then
use it
text 15 90 This patch is able to get a delay down to 1 sample because
of execution order forcing !;
#X text 15 48 in1: the signal;
#X text 15 62 in2: delay time in ms;
#X text 255 372 Georg Holzmann \, 2007;
#X connect 0 0 3 0;
#X connect 1 0 4 1;
#X connect 3 0 4 0;
#X connect 4 0 2 0;
#X connect
Hallo!
To clear the things up a little bit (I already wrote some mails with Fabio):
which operating-system?
Fabio is using Windows and tries to compile the GApop external, which is
based on flext.
So I already suggested him to:
- install a compiler (MinGW)
- install flext
- then compile the
Hallo Hans!
Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:
I figure I would post out since the Pd-0.40.2-extended windows builds
have been gone for a while. They are back as of today:
very good news - thanks !
Are there also already report on pd-cvs if somthing is not compiling (or
where do I see if I
Hallo!
i would vote for a 'turn subpatch into an abstraction' button though.
and of course the long awaited feature to embed abstractions in
abstractions.
what does this mean? something like libs embed external objects?
think about maybe like functions in a python script or c program or
Hallo Tania!
I have started working with PD few weeks ago and I find it very useful
for my work, but I am facing some problems in trying to load some
libraries into PD. I want to add the Adaptive Filter library written by
Markus Noisternig and Thomas Musil. I am working on Mac osx.
This
Hallo!
Secondly I can not run examples of adaptive library as some of the
objects can not be created such as lms~
This behavior is really strange for me.
so you did load the iem_adaptfilt library before opening the patches?
(with -lib iem_adaptfilt, or whatever)
I think this is an other
I also vote for bold:
[X] bold.png
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Scr_gain: no such object
Room_sim_3d: no such method for 'room_sim_3d'
Using the help room_sim_2d room_sim _3d-patches, it is also not
possible to add a third source (to me). Are these objects restricted
to two sources (which would be contradictory to the iem reports e.g.
38/7)?
I
Hallo!
Bryan Jurish is the speech expert in pd world ;) ... you can find all
his stuff here: http://www.ling.uni-potsdam.de/~moocow/projects/pd/
There are the ratts and flite externals. I think he also made an
external for the mbrola speech synthesizer, but did not release it ...
Yes, for the
Hallo Johannes!
i am using the tabplay~ object to play out of 48 arrays.
it takes alot of time to load the samples in the arrays.
what is the best way to load the samples into the arrays in less time?
is it more efficient to use 4 channel audio files with soundfiler?
I don't know but I
Georg Holzmann schrieb:
Hallo Johannes!
i am using the tabplay~ object to play out of 48 arrays.
it takes alot of time to load the samples in the arrays.
what is the best way to load the samples into the arrays in less time?
is it more efficient to use 4 channel audio files with soundfiler
already fixed ...
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
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Hallo Nikola!
have pd+gem running on my ubuntustudio box with ati9200 radeon. Gem is
working nice except the fact that it is craching PD every time i try to
destoy/close the gemwin with segmentation fault message. same thing
was happening on other distros, so i belive it is the problem
Hallo!
I have seen that the ieee1394 capture objects in PDP are working.
So ow the other way: is there some way to have a ieee1394 output
object?
In a few month ... ;)
LG
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Hallo!
Net-pd is for me the ONLY project where we could have a chance one day
for having ALL externals, abstractions, extensions and even the hardware
dependant externals in action, without having passing hours about
configuring pd, understanding how the object works, etc ...
[...]
and
Hallo!
Nice try but not functionnal...
pd-extended provides a maximum of functionning externals, gives a lot of
examples, but it doesn't provide a fully fonctionning set of objects
like net-pd does
Yes I know that it does not work yet, but thats the goal of pd-extended ...
if there is not
Hallo!
You can submit edited patches to the bug tracker on the sourceforge
page [http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=55736atid=478070
direct link].
Yes, or if you have a useful bundle of patches that work out of the box
with pd extended just send them to me or to the list and I will add
Hallo Tania!
I need some help in finding the object which can plot 2-D and 3-D curves.
for example if i have two vectors and I need to plot frequecy versus
angle curve/ plots the data after the simulation are complete.
I usually do this with the simple array objects (you can give them
Hallo!
Yes, would be nice - someone would have to integrate them to pd-extended
(using [import] and etc.) ...
Everyone could integreate them to her/his own pd-extended using a
simple -path flatspace, as AFAIK everything netpd uses is already
there and people not using pd-extended wouldn't
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