Re: [PD] Pduino 0.5/Firmata 2.1 beta release
Ok, I think I fixed the analog issue where sometimes the analog pins were doing the log scale/ pull-up resistor thing: http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino I tested this on a Diecimila, I hear there are troubles with the Arduino Pro and others, but I only have the older ones, so testing and bug reports on those are very helpful. .hc On Jul 29, 2009, at 12:25 PM, olsen wolf wrote: Excellent, thanks for the report. You should be able to use servos using StandardFirmata too, but only on pins 9 and 10. nope using the StandardFirmata i do not get any servomove or pwm-signal on the pin 9 + 10 with output mode set to 'servo' olsen .hc olsen wolf wrote: Hi Hans merci mille for the ongoing work on pduino including all the features! finally i could get my hands on for some testing. i did tests with diecimila duemilanueve - pwm looks pretty smooth to control an h-bridge solid state relays. also servos are under my control - smooth operating using the servo firmata. atm no mega at hand for testing but coming soon! so long salutis olsen On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Alex, Glad to hear it works, but expect problems like the one you mentioned. I just got it working, what it really needs is someone to test and fix things for the Mega in particular. .hc On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 14:48 -0400, Alexandre Castonguay wrote: Hi Hans, I'm pleased to report that it is starting to work on the Mega. I can toggle up to pin 53. Reporting all inputs causes buffer overruns and I guess that's to be expected. More testing underway. Thanks a lot for your work! a Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I haven't had a chance to try it on the Mega yet. Do you use the Mega? If so, I need testers for it. .hc On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hans, hi, Arduino mega have 12 inputs, firmata and pduino have these Best regards José 2009/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino There are some nice updates to Firmata and Pduino. This release mostly adds extensions to the protocol to support more pin modes and their respective messages (Servo, I2C, Shift Registers, etc). Here are some specifics: - Servo support for StandardFirmata - support for using analog pins as digital I/Os for StandardFirmata - new message to set the poll rate of StandardFirmata - I2C Firmata example (needs Pd implementation) - switch back to 57600 for standard bitrate - made Firmata.begin(57600) explicit in all examples Please test and report and bugs or issues. We are trying to get this included in the upcoming Arduino 0017 release. Depending on the 0017 release schedule, we might be able to squeeze in Shift Register/Matrix support too. Also, just to note, this update includes code from (in alphabetical order): Ayah Bdeir Erik Sjodin Hans-Christoph Steiner Jeff Hoefs Shigeru Kobayashi Zach Lieberman (I hope I didn't forget anyone, let me know if I did). .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino 0.5/Firmata 2.1 beta release
Got my hands on an arduino mega now same result here - pwm works but switching output mode to 'servo' i get no signal on pins 9+10. let me know if i can help at any point! best olsen On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:25 PM, olsen wolfsesselastron...@googlemail.com wrote: Excellent, thanks for the report. You should be able to use servos using StandardFirmata too, but only on pins 9 and 10. nope using the StandardFirmata i do not get any servomove or pwm-signal on the pin 9 + 10 with output mode set to 'servo' olsen .hc olsen wolf wrote: Hi Hans merci mille for the ongoing work on pduino including all the features! finally i could get my hands on for some testing. i did tests with diecimila duemilanueve - pwm looks pretty smooth to control an h-bridge solid state relays. also servos are under my control - smooth operating using the servo firmata. atm no mega at hand for testing but coming soon! so long salutis olsen On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Alex, Glad to hear it works, but expect problems like the one you mentioned. I just got it working, what it really needs is someone to test and fix things for the Mega in particular. .hc On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 14:48 -0400, Alexandre Castonguay wrote: Hi Hans, I'm pleased to report that it is starting to work on the Mega. I can toggle up to pin 53. Reporting all inputs causes buffer overruns and I guess that's to be expected. More testing underway. Thanks a lot for your work! a Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I haven't had a chance to try it on the Mega yet. Do you use the Mega? If so, I need testers for it. .hc On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hans, hi, Arduino mega have 12 inputs, firmata and pduino have these Best regards José 2009/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino There are some nice updates to Firmata and Pduino. This release mostly adds extensions to the protocol to support more pin modes and their respective messages (Servo, I2C, Shift Registers, etc). Here are some specifics: - Servo support for StandardFirmata - support for using analog pins as digital I/Os for StandardFirmata - new message to set the poll rate of StandardFirmata - I2C Firmata example (needs Pd implementation) - switch back to 57600 for standard bitrate - made Firmata.begin(57600) explicit in all examples Please test and report and bugs or issues. We are trying to get this included in the upcoming Arduino 0017 release. Depending on the 0017 release schedule, we might be able to squeeze in Shift Register/Matrix support too. Also, just to note, this update includes code from (in alphabetical order): Ayah Bdeir Erik Sjodin Hans-Christoph Steiner Jeff Hoefs Shigeru Kobayashi Zach Lieberman (I hope I didn't forget anyone, let me know if I did). .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ pd-l...@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised -- ETs DNA will not be televised ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino 0.5/Firmata 2.1 beta release
Excellent, thanks for the report. You should be able to use servos using StandardFirmata too, but only on pins 9 and 10. .hc olsen wolf wrote: Hi Hans merci mille for the ongoing work on pduino including all the features! finally i could get my hands on for some testing. i did tests with diecimila duemilanueve - pwm looks pretty smooth to control an h-bridge solid state relays. also servos are under my control - smooth operating using the servo firmata. atm no mega at hand for testing but coming soon! so long salutis olsen On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Alex, Glad to hear it works, but expect problems like the one you mentioned. I just got it working, what it really needs is someone to test and fix things for the Mega in particular. .hc On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 14:48 -0400, Alexandre Castonguay wrote: Hi Hans, I'm pleased to report that it is starting to work on the Mega. I can toggle up to pin 53. Reporting all inputs causes buffer overruns and I guess that's to be expected. More testing underway. Thanks a lot for your work! a Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I haven't had a chance to try it on the Mega yet. Do you use the Mega? If so, I need testers for it. .hc On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hans, hi, Arduino mega have 12 inputs, firmata and pduino have these Best regards José 2009/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino There are some nice updates to Firmata and Pduino. This release mostly adds extensions to the protocol to support more pin modes and their respective messages (Servo, I2C, Shift Registers, etc). Here are some specifics: - Servo support for StandardFirmata - support for using analog pins as digital I/Os for StandardFirmata - new message to set the poll rate of StandardFirmata - I2C Firmata example (needs Pd implementation) - switch back to 57600 for standard bitrate - made Firmata.begin(57600) explicit in all examples Please test and report and bugs or issues. We are trying to get this included in the upcoming Arduino 0017 release. Depending on the 0017 release schedule, we might be able to squeeze in Shift Register/Matrix support too. Also, just to note, this update includes code from (in alphabetical order): Ayah Bdeir Erik Sjodin Hans-Christoph Steiner Jeff Hoefs Shigeru Kobayashi Zach Lieberman (I hope I didn't forget anyone, let me know if I did). .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino 0.5/Firmata 2.1 beta release
Excellent, thanks for the report. You should be able to use servos using StandardFirmata too, but only on pins 9 and 10. nope using the StandardFirmata i do not get any servomove or pwm-signal on the pin 9 + 10 with output mode set to 'servo' olsen .hc olsen wolf wrote: Hi Hans merci mille for the ongoing work on pduino including all the features! finally i could get my hands on for some testing. i did tests with diecimila duemilanueve - pwm looks pretty smooth to control an h-bridge solid state relays. also servos are under my control - smooth operating using the servo firmata. atm no mega at hand for testing but coming soon! so long salutis olsen On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Alex, Glad to hear it works, but expect problems like the one you mentioned. I just got it working, what it really needs is someone to test and fix things for the Mega in particular. .hc On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 14:48 -0400, Alexandre Castonguay wrote: Hi Hans, I'm pleased to report that it is starting to work on the Mega. I can toggle up to pin 53. Reporting all inputs causes buffer overruns and I guess that's to be expected. More testing underway. Thanks a lot for your work! a Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I haven't had a chance to try it on the Mega yet. Do you use the Mega? If so, I need testers for it. .hc On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hans, hi, Arduino mega have 12 inputs, firmata and pduino have these Best regards José 2009/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino There are some nice updates to Firmata and Pduino. This release mostly adds extensions to the protocol to support more pin modes and their respective messages (Servo, I2C, Shift Registers, etc). Here are some specifics: - Servo support for StandardFirmata - support for using analog pins as digital I/Os for StandardFirmata - new message to set the poll rate of StandardFirmata - I2C Firmata example (needs Pd implementation) - switch back to 57600 for standard bitrate - made Firmata.begin(57600) explicit in all examples Please test and report and bugs or issues. We are trying to get this included in the upcoming Arduino 0017 release. Depending on the 0017 release schedule, we might be able to squeeze in Shift Register/Matrix support too. Also, just to note, this update includes code from (in alphabetical order): Ayah Bdeir Erik Sjodin Hans-Christoph Steiner Jeff Hoefs Shigeru Kobayashi Zach Lieberman (I hope I didn't forget anyone, let me know if I did). .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ pd-l...@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino 0.5/Firmata 2.1 beta release
Hi Hans merci mille for the ongoing work on pduino including all the features! finally i could get my hands on for some testing. i did tests with diecimila duemilanueve - pwm looks pretty smooth to control an h-bridge solid state relays. also servos are under my control - smooth operating using the servo firmata. atm no mega at hand for testing but coming soon! so long salutis olsen On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Hans-Christoph Steinerh...@at.or.at wrote: Hey Alex, Glad to hear it works, but expect problems like the one you mentioned. I just got it working, what it really needs is someone to test and fix things for the Mega in particular. .hc On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 14:48 -0400, Alexandre Castonguay wrote: Hi Hans, I'm pleased to report that it is starting to work on the Mega. I can toggle up to pin 53. Reporting all inputs causes buffer overruns and I guess that's to be expected. More testing underway. Thanks a lot for your work! a Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I haven't had a chance to try it on the Mega yet. Do you use the Mega? If so, I need testers for it. .hc On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hans, hi, Arduino mega have 12 inputs, firmata and pduino have these Best regards José 2009/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino There are some nice updates to Firmata and Pduino. This release mostly adds extensions to the protocol to support more pin modes and their respective messages (Servo, I2C, Shift Registers, etc). Here are some specifics: - Servo support for StandardFirmata - support for using analog pins as digital I/Os for StandardFirmata - new message to set the poll rate of StandardFirmata - I2C Firmata example (needs Pd implementation) - switch back to 57600 for standard bitrate - made Firmata.begin(57600) explicit in all examples Please test and report and bugs or issues. We are trying to get this included in the upcoming Arduino 0017 release. Depending on the 0017 release schedule, we might be able to squeeze in Shift Register/Matrix support too. Also, just to note, this update includes code from (in alphabetical order): Ayah Bdeir Erik Sjodin Hans-Christoph Steiner Jeff Hoefs Shigeru Kobayashi Zach Lieberman (I hope I didn't forget anyone, let me know if I did). .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- ETs DNA will not be televised ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino 0.5/Firmata 2.1 beta release
Hi Hans, I'm pleased to report that it is starting to work on the Mega. I can toggle up to pin 53. Reporting all inputs causes buffer overruns and I guess that's to be expected. More testing underway. Thanks a lot for your work! a Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I haven't had a chance to try it on the Mega yet. Do you use the Mega? If so, I need testers for it. .hc On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hans, hi, Arduino mega have 12 inputs, firmata and pduino have these Best regards José 2009/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino There are some nice updates to Firmata and Pduino. This release mostly adds extensions to the protocol to support more pin modes and their respective messages (Servo, I2C, Shift Registers, etc). Here are some specifics: - Servo support for StandardFirmata - support for using analog pins as digital I/Os for StandardFirmata - new message to set the poll rate of StandardFirmata - I2C Firmata example (needs Pd implementation) - switch back to 57600 for standard bitrate - made Firmata.begin(57600) explicit in all examples Please test and report and bugs or issues. We are trying to get this included in the upcoming Arduino 0017 release. Depending on the 0017 release schedule, we might be able to squeeze in Shift Register/Matrix support too. Also, just to note, this update includes code from (in alphabetical order): Ayah Bdeir Erik Sjodin Hans-Christoph Steiner Jeff Hoefs Shigeru Kobayashi Zach Lieberman (I hope I didn't forget anyone, let me know if I did). .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino 0.5/Firmata 2.1 beta release
Hey Alex, Glad to hear it works, but expect problems like the one you mentioned. I just got it working, what it really needs is someone to test and fix things for the Mega in particular. .hc On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 14:48 -0400, Alexandre Castonguay wrote: Hi Hans, I'm pleased to report that it is starting to work on the Mega. I can toggle up to pin 53. Reporting all inputs causes buffer overruns and I guess that's to be expected. More testing underway. Thanks a lot for your work! a Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : I haven't had a chance to try it on the Mega yet. Do you use the Mega? If so, I need testers for it. .hc On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hans, hi, Arduino mega have 12 inputs, firmata and pduino have these Best regards José 2009/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at mailto:h...@at.or.at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino There are some nice updates to Firmata and Pduino. This release mostly adds extensions to the protocol to support more pin modes and their respective messages (Servo, I2C, Shift Registers, etc). Here are some specifics: - Servo support for StandardFirmata - support for using analog pins as digital I/Os for StandardFirmata - new message to set the poll rate of StandardFirmata - I2C Firmata example (needs Pd implementation) - switch back to 57600 for standard bitrate - made Firmata.begin(57600) explicit in all examples Please test and report and bugs or issues. We are trying to get this included in the upcoming Arduino 0017 release. Depending on the 0017 release schedule, we might be able to squeeze in Shift Register/Matrix support too. Also, just to note, this update includes code from (in alphabetical order): Ayah Bdeir Erik Sjodin Hans-Christoph Steiner Jeff Hoefs Shigeru Kobayashi Zach Lieberman (I hope I didn't forget anyone, let me know if I did). .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Re: [PD] Pduino 0.5/Firmata 2.1 beta release
I haven't had a chance to try it on the Mega yet. Do you use the Mega? If so, I need testers for it. .hc On Jul 10, 2009, at 7:59 AM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: Hans, hi, Arduino mega have 12 inputs, firmata and pduino have these Best regards José 2009/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@at.or.at http://at.or.at/hans/pd/objects.html#pduino There are some nice updates to Firmata and Pduino. This release mostly adds extensions to the protocol to support more pin modes and their respective messages (Servo, I2C, Shift Registers, etc). Here are some specifics: - Servo support for StandardFirmata - support for using analog pins as digital I/Os for StandardFirmata - new message to set the poll rate of StandardFirmata - I2C Firmata example (needs Pd implementation) - switch back to 57600 for standard bitrate - made Firmata.begin(57600) explicit in all examples Please test and report and bugs or issues. We are trying to get this included in the upcoming Arduino 0017 release. Depending on the 0017 release schedule, we might be able to squeeze in Shift Register/Matrix support too. Also, just to note, this update includes code from (in alphabetical order): Ayah Bdeir Erik Sjodin Hans-Christoph Steiner Jeff Hoefs Shigeru Kobayashi Zach Lieberman (I hope I didn't forget anyone, let me know if I did). .hc It is convenient to imagine a power beyond us because that means we don't have to examine our own lives., from The Idols of Environmentalism, by Curtis White ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- http://www.chilemigra.cl http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/santorcuato I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. - General Smedley Butler ___ Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
