Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-07 Thread simon wise
On 5 May 2007, at 5:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [classpath] == [declare -stdpath] Adds a path to the global search path. thats great! - I wasn't aware of [classpath] -- now I can stop wrangling preferences/users trying to get different paths and libraries for different versions.

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-07 Thread IOhannes m zmoelnig
simon wise wrote: On 5 May 2007, at 5:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [classpath] == [declare -stdpath] Adds a path to the global search path. thats great! - I wasn't aware of [classpath] -- now I can stop wrangling preferences/users trying to get different paths and libraries

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-07 Thread simon wise
On 7 May 2007, at 5:08 PM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: so why don't you just use [declare]? apart from the fact, that [declare] has a slightly more complicated syntax and merges more or less independent functionality, it also has some advantages: e.g. it is treated specially by pd (it always

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-07 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, simon wise hat gesagt: // simon wise wrote: I hope there are plans for inclusion in the miller pd distribution soon (though a least it is fairly easy to explain how to add them, even to a novice user). [classpath] is GPL, so unless Miller plans to switch Pd to GPL (which I doubt)

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-07 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 7, 2007, at 4:58 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, IOhannes m zmoelnig hat gesagt: // IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: simon wise wrote: On 5 May 2007, at 5:14 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: [classpath] == [declare -stdpath] Adds a path to the global search path. thats great! - I

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: The idea is to strip down Pd to the most basic objects, then make everything else a library that's included when needed. [import] and/ or [declare] seem to be some of the essential few. I wonder: How should we deal

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-04 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! I wonder: How should we deal with the thousands of abstractions that have been created in the ten years since Pd was invented? To avoid having to rewrite every patch, some kind of central path preference mechanism still will be necessary, I guess. hm ... how do you mean that ? They

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Georg Holzmann hat gesagt: // Georg Holzmann wrote: I wonder: How should we deal with the thousands of abstractions that have been created in the ten years since Pd was invented? To avoid having to rewrite every patch, some kind of central path preference mechanism still will be

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-04 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't think anyone is proposing to remove the startup flags/ preferences like path. For the situation that you describe, it would be easy enough to collect those abstractions into a folder, then add that folder

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-04 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! No, I mean the other way around: What about old abstractions, that maybe use externals or other abstractions, but don't have any [import] or [declare] inside? I have literally thousands of these on my disk (not all written by me, of course). Okay, I undestand, me too ... you could

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-04 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 4, 2007, at 11:47 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Hans-Christoph Steiner hat gesagt: // Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I don't think anyone is proposing to remove the startup flags/ preferences like path. For the situation that you describe, it would be easy enough to collect

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-03 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On May 2, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Frank Barknecht wrote: Hallo, Georg Holzmann hat gesagt: // Georg Holzmann wrote: hm ... the idea behind the libdir stuff is (at least for me), that you don't need the startup flags and preference files ... You simply import your library with [import

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-02 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo Marius! for any reason the flatspace externals are not created by only using the objectname. for example mass2D. it is created when I type flatspace/mass2D. however, it is also not possible to add flatspace to the startup paths, at least that does not solve the problem. any idea,

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-02 Thread marius schebella
libdir: can't load library. uidohotswos. will look at that later... thnx. marius. Georg Holzmann wrote: Hallo Marius! for any reason the flatspace externals are not created by only using the objectname. for example mass2D. it is created when I type flatspace/mass2D. however, it is also

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-02 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! libdir: can't load library. uidohotswos. jodesiswor ;) However, can you try pd -verbose and see what happens ? LG Georg ___ PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management - http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-02 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! ok found the problem. I did not exchange the preferences file. so all the paths were still set to test7. but acually that is a problem, because I add a lot of my own paths and I don't want to add them everytime when I change the pd version. is it possible to use additional

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-02 Thread marius schebella
ok found the problem. I did not exchange the preferences file. so all the paths were still set to test7. but acually that is a problem, because I add a lot of my own paths and I don't want to add them everytime when I change the pd version. is it possible to use additional preferences files?

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-02 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Georg Holzmann hat gesagt: // Georg Holzmann wrote: hm ... the idea behind the libdir stuff is (at least for me), that you don't need the startup flags and preference files ... You simply import your library with [import your_lib] directly within the patch - however, you should be

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-02 Thread Georg Holzmann
Hallo! Can I do import import? Just joking, but as far as I understand patches using import need at least one preference line (unless you have import.pd_linux already in the default path) and one external. Of course ... but import is in the default path (in latest extended). LG Georg

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-02 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I solve this problem (on OS X) by keeping my personal paths in .pdrc. ~Kyle On 5/2/07, marius schebella [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok found the problem. I did not exchange the preferences file. so all the paths were still set to test7. but acually that is a problem, because I add a lot of my

Re: [PD] flatspace externals in ext39.2

2007-05-02 Thread simon wise
On 3 May 2007, at 5:44 AM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote: I solve this problem (on OS X) by keeping my personal paths in .pdrc. which works well for me too. I'd also love to see a .pdrc, (or a for example a 'local.plist') which was specific to the version of pd that I was opening, since I usually