Re: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents
The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ At 10:59 AM 4/15/2004, selvanponnusamy wrote: We are a newspaper environment using MACS. We receive most of our complete material as PDFs. The problem we are having is that most of these PDFs come to us with bleed/crop/registrations marks included. Question. Other than asking customers or cropping the PDF, is there a way of removing these marks? Sure. There are a number of 3rd party tools that you can purchase that can remove information from a PDF - either manually or in an automated fashion. Leonard --- Leonard Rosentholmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technical Officer http://www.pdfsages.com PDF Sages, Inc. 215-938-7080 (voice) 215-938-0880 (fax) To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html
RE: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents
The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ Hmmm. Sometimes these marks can be removed with the touch-up object tool (and delete key). They can also be removed with PitStop. If you are importing the PDF into a picture container, why don't you simply draw a container to size, and center the PDF within the container? This assumes, of course, that the ad was centered in the PDF. If it wasn't, it can be manually adjusted fairly easily. I'm not sure why you feel you need to remove the crops. These may be your only reference point for properly positioning the PDF. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of selvanponnusamy Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ We are a newspaper environment using MACS. We receive most of our complete material as PDFs. The problem we are having is that most of these PDFs come to us with bleed/crop/registrations marks included. Question. Other than asking customers or cropping the PDF, is there a way of removing these marks? Many thanks in anticipation. Regards Selvan Ponnusamy Advertising Production Nightshift Supervisor Independent Newspapers KZN (South Africa) +27-31 2621670 Daytime (Home) +27-31 3082544 after 3.30pm (Work) CELL: 082 8722 301 * Private, Confidential Privileged This e-mail, and any files and attachments transmitted with it, is confidential and/or privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Independent News Media SA (Pty) Ltd, Independent Newspapers (Pty) Ltd or any associated or related company. The content of this e-mail, and any file or attachment transmitted with it, may have been changed or altered without the consent of the author. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any review, dissemination, disclosure, alteration, printing, circulation or transmission of this e-mail, and/or any file or attachment transmitted with it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail or any file attachment transmitted with it, in error, please notify Independent News Media SA (Pty) Ltd, Independent Newspapers (Pty) Ltd or any associated or related company, by e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] * To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html
Re: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents
The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ Believe it or not there are some page layout programs out there that don't allow the placement of PDFs. GoodNews being one of them. On Thursday, April 15, 2004, at 05:56 PM, Rich Sprague wrote: The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ I understand your workflow in principle. But what I wonder is: 1) How do you use the EPS files? Don't you place them on the page in some manner, like in a picture container? And 2) Why are you making an EPS file when the PDF should work just fine? It seems like an extra step. As I stated earlier, in most cases you can remove the crops and file information with the object touch-up tool. Rich -Original Message- From: On Behalf Of selvanponnusamy Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ Adverts received are part of a page. The final page has its own bleed/crop/registrations marks. They aren't needed as in the case of commercial printing. We end up making EPSs of the PDFs received. What I am trying to avoid is making the EPS and then placing in a container to eventually crop out these marks. Hmmm. Sometimes these marks can be removed with the touch-up object tool (and delete key). They can also be removed with PitStop. If you are importing the PDF into a picture container, why don't you simply draw a container to size, and center the PDF within the container? This assumes, of course, that the ad was centered in the PDF. If it wasn't, it can be manually adjusted fairly easily. I'm not sure why you feel you need to remove the crops. These may be your only reference point for properly positioning the PDF. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of selvanponnusamy Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ We are a newspaper environment using MACS. We receive most of our complete material as PDFs. The problem we are having is that most of these PDFs come to us with bleed/crop/registrations marks included. Question. Other than asking customers or cropping the PDF, is there a way of removing these marks? Many thanks in anticipation. Regards Selvan Ponnusamy Advertising Production Nightshift Supervisor Independent Newspapers KZN (South Africa) +27-31 2621670 Daytime (Home) +27-31 3082544 after 3.30pm (Work) CELL: 082 8722 301 *** * * Private, Confidential Privileged This e-mail, and any files and attachments transmitted with it, is confidential and/or privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Independent News Media SA (Pty) Ltd, Independent Newspapers (Pty) Ltd or any associated or related company. The content of this e-mail, and any file or attachment transmitted with it, may have been changed or altered without the consent of the author. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any review, dissemination, disclosure, alteration, printing, circulation or transmission of this e-mail, and/or any file or attachment transmitted with it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail or any file attachment transmitted with it, in error, please notify Independent News Media SA (Pty) Ltd, Independent Newspapers (Pty) Ltd or any associated or related company, by e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** * * To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html Selvan Ponnusamy Advertising Production Nightshift Supervisor Independent Newspapers KZN (South Africa) +27-31 2621670 Daytime (Home) +27-31 3082544 after 3.30pm (Work) CELL: 082 8722 301 * *** * Private, Confidential Privileged This e-mail, and any files and attachments transmitted with it, is confidential and/or privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Independent News Media SA (Pty) Ltd, Independent Newspapers (Pty) Ltd or any
RE: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents
The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ When you crop in Acrobat anything outside the crop will still print...unless...you resave as .ps and then redistill. It's an extra step, but it works. ~James From: Mark Cline [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Maybe I missed something, put why can't you just crop them in Acrobat? To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html
RE: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents
The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ Gee, if you read my original answer, I've offered two ways (one free) where you can remove the crops. See below...right after the Hmmm. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of selvanponnusamy Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ That's what I do presently, but it's just become such a task with the number of ads that we receive. My earlier question. Other than asking customers or cropping the PDF, is there a way of removing these marks? Maybe I missed something, put why can't you just crop them in Acrobat? M On Apr 15, 2004, at 4:47 PM, selvanponnusamy wrote: The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ Adverts received are part of a page. The final page has its own bleed/crop/registrations marks. They aren't needed as in the case of commercial printing. We end up making EPSs of the PDFs received. What I am trying to avoid is making the EPS and then placing in a container to eventually crop out these marks. Hmmm. Sometimes these marks can be removed with the touch-up object tool (and delete key). They can also be removed with PitStop. If you are importing the PDF into a picture container, why don't you simply draw a container to size, and center the PDF within the container? This assumes, of course, that the ad was centered in the PDF. If it wasn't, it can be manually adjusted fairly easily. I'm not sure why you feel you need to remove the crops. These may be your only reference point for properly positioning the PDF. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of selvanponnusamy Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ We are a newspaper environment using MACS. We receive most of our complete material as PDFs. The problem we are having is that most of these PDFs come to us with bleed/crop/registrations marks included. Question. Other than asking customers or cropping the PDF, is there a way of removing these marks? Many thanks in anticipation. Regards Selvan Ponnusamy Advertising Production Nightshift Supervisor Independent Newspapers KZN (South Africa) +27-31 2621670 Daytime (Home) +27-31 3082544 after 3.30pm (Work) CELL: 082 8722 301 ** ** * Private, Confidential Privileged This e-mail, and any files and attachments transmitted with it, is confidential and/or privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Independent News Media SA (Pty) Ltd, Independent Newspapers (Pty) Ltd or any associated or related company. The content of this e-mail, and any file or attachment transmitted with it, may have been changed or altered without the consent of the author. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any review, dissemination, disclosure, alteration, printing, circulation or transmission of this e-mail, and/or any file or attachment transmitted with it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail or any file attachment transmitted with it, in error, please notify Independent News Media SA (Pty) Ltd, Independent Newspapers (Pty) Ltd or any associated or related company, by e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** ** * To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html Selvan Ponnusamy Advertising Production Nightshift Supervisor Independent Newspapers KZN (South Africa) +27-31 2621670 Daytime (Home) +27-31 3082544 after 3.30pm (Work) CELL: 082 8722 301 *** ** Private, Confidential Privileged This e-mail, and any files and attachments transmitted with it, is confidential and/or privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Independent News Media SA
RE: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents
The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ That sounds to me more like BadNews, than GoodNews. Sorry, I couldn't help myself. Perhaps Tera SpA needs to update their software since PDF is becoming, or has become, the defacto method of file transfer. Rich P.S. And yes, you're right, until you pointed it out I wouldn't have believed that there are page layout programs that won't allow the placement of PDFs. -Original Message- From: On Behalf Of Tim Gross Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents Believe it or not there are some page layout programs out there that don't allow the placement of PDFs. GoodNews being one of them. On Thursday, April 15, 2004, at 05:56 PM, Rich Sprague wrote: The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ I understand your workflow in principle. But what I wonder is: 1) How do you use the EPS files? Don't you place them on the page in some manner, like in a picture container? And 2) Why are you making an EPS file when the PDF should work just fine? It seems like an extra step. As I stated earlier, in most cases you can remove the crops and file information with the object touch-up tool. Rich -Original Message- From: On Behalf Of selvanponnusamy Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ Adverts received are part of a page. The final page has its own bleed/crop/registrations marks. They aren't needed as in the case of commercial printing. We end up making EPSs of the PDFs received. What I am trying to avoid is making the EPS and then placing in a container to eventually crop out these marks. Hmmm. Sometimes these marks can be removed with the touch-up object tool (and delete key). They can also be removed with PitStop. If you are importing the PDF into a picture container, why don't you simply draw a container to size, and center the PDF within the container? This assumes, of course, that the ad was centered in the PDF. If it wasn't, it can be manually adjusted fairly easily. I'm not sure why you feel you need to remove the crops. These may be your only reference point for properly positioning the PDF. Rich -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of selvanponnusamy Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 12:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PDF] RE: Working with Bleed in PDF documents The PDF list is a service provided by PDFzone.com | http://www.pdfzone.com __ We are a newspaper environment using MACS. We receive most of our complete material as PDFs. The problem we are having is that most of these PDFs come to us with bleed/crop/registrations marks included. Question. Other than asking customers or cropping the PDF, is there a way of removing these marks? Many thanks in anticipation. Regards Selvan Ponnusamy Advertising Production Nightshift Supervisor Independent Newspapers KZN (South Africa) +27-31 2621670 Daytime (Home) +27-31 3082544 after 3.30pm (Work) CELL: 082 8722 301 * ** * * Private, Confidential Privileged This e-mail, and any files and attachments transmitted with it, is confidential and/or privileged. It is intended solely for the use of the intended recipient. Any views and opinions expressed are those of the individual author/sender and are not necessarily shared or endorsed by Independent News Media SA (Pty) Ltd, Independent Newspapers (Pty) Ltd or any associated or related company. The content of this e-mail, and any file or attachment transmitted with it, may have been changed or altered without the consent of the author. If you are not the intended recipient, please note that any review, dissemination, disclosure, alteration, printing, circulation or transmission of this e-mail, and/or any file or attachment transmitted with it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail or any file attachment transmitted with it, in error, please notify Independent News Media SA (Pty) Ltd, Independent Newspapers (Pty) Ltd or any associated or related company, by e-mailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ** * * To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com/discussions/lists-pdf.html To change your subscription: http://www.pdfzone.com
