OK, so I made a mistake. And I didn't say the 1950's.
I will let you know more when I see it on TV this
Friday.
Yup. They hadn't discovered video yet. I recall some
sort of
absurd 19th century work that was purportedly to be
fairies in a
garden. I think that photographer was in England.
Thankyou.
I would have thuft that was obvious. It rhymes with
'cough' and
'through' and 'although'.
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A silly question: What's RTF? I guess the F is for flash.
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You learn something every day. Although by now I think
I know everything :)
Plow :) i never realised americans spelt it like
this :)
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I love it. Sent it to my Dad who will get a good laugh
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I think it is "ReTractable Flash" Anyway they are the little
prism mounted ones.
William Robb
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From: "petit miam" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 9, 2001 12:15 AM
Subject: RTF
A silly question: What's RTF? I guess the F is for flash.
Retractable Ttl Flash?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: April 8, 2001 11:19 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RTF
I think it is "ReTractable Flash" Anyway they are the little
prism mounted ones.
William Robb
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I'd say it means Retractable TTL Flash
Jeff
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From: "William Robb" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 2:18 AM
Subject: Re: RTF
I think it is "ReTractable Flash" Anyway they are the little
prism mounted ones.
William Robb
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And they call that modern technology? My Spotmatic
will do that, not to mention my MZ-30.
Jody.
2. Mid-roll Rewind
You can rewind in the middle of the roll on an MZ-S.
However, if you would like to re-use the roll, you
have to
write down the frame number, and to wind up to that
frame
You can use it to trigger the wireless slave function of the new
external flash. I was thinking that I would happily lose it too, until
I thought 'ooh, I could bounce the main flash off the ceiling, and use
the RTF for a bit of fill in, without any messing about getting
technical!'
This may not
It is a good thing to have. If you do not like it, do not use it, but you may need it
sometime.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
-Alkuperinen viesti-
Lhettj: Jim Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I still wonder how Minolta claims the camera can do it. How the camera can read the
(imprinted?) film data - imprinted data becomes visible only after the film is
developed and you would not need to reuse a developed film, would you?
It seems that the camera assigns a number for each film -
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ADORAMA
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Title: Avail 5/01 Pentax MZ-S Pro AF SLR U.S.A
Price: $999.95
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Unless you're Dan Quayle, then you say "potatoe"...
Norm
Peter Smith wrote:
You say "potato" and we say "potato"
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I have tested it long time ago and found it quite good. I regret not buying it. I
later tested also 8/500 Tamron and Tokina mirror lenses and the Sigma is much better.
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
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Hold on - there is another possibility. I just checked what is actually printed on a
film cartridge and there is a bar code. Can the Minolta read this? If it can why do
they not say so?
All the best!
Raimo
Personal photography homepage at http://personal.inet.fi/private/raimo.korhonen
Another approach would be to have say n memories where the camera would
store the number of frames already shot for n rolls. All you have to do is
write down in the roll what memory goes with that roll.
Example
Memory #1: 23 frames shot
Memory #2: 8 frames shot
..
Memory #n: 15 frames shot
Paul wrote:
"I thought the Aussies amongst us may be interested to know that the C R =
Kennedy web site has a description of the MZ-S, nothing we don't already =
know, with the release date anticipated as July."
Hey Paul, you beat me to it! I was just about to post that too!
fairy.
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This
The bar code, I think, is identical on all rolls of the same type. I think
the best way to do this memory feature is to assign roll numbers to the
rolls, and instead of the camera counting frames to get back to where it
left off, have it count sprocket holes, that way you can be really precise.
Why not have the camera notch the film edge when exposed? or burn a spot in
the sprocket hole area? Then when inserted, the film would wind past the
last mark and stop ready to take the next picture. For double exposures, it
could be backed up or just not advanced. That some chip programming but
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Subject: Re: Subject: e-bay words (very OT!)
Unless you're Dan Quayle, then you say "potatoe"...
I was trying to remember who said that.
William Robb
"If you teach people to read, they will be able to pass literacy
tests"
G.W. Bush
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William Robb wrote:
[A very complete and detailed set of answers to my questions on color
processing, color and grayscale reference standards, and color correction --
snipped here for brevity, but see his excellent note posted on 4/7/01, 0240
GMT]
Thanks for the detailed reply!! This
Though recently, as I will be a new father in a few weeks, cringe at the
thought of having to shoot and print pics... surely there MUST be an easier
way even if the numbers don't crunch properly???
The Coolpix does well with relatively stationary objects or those that move
in a single plane of
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From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 9, 2001 8:32 AM
Subject: RE: Subject: Re: bad processing
William Robb wrote:
[A very complete and detailed set of answers to my questions
on color
processing, color and
Martin wrote:
My question:
But what happens to the 12 or 24 frames rolls?? Does the camera know how
to
diferentiate each one (12, 24 or 36 frames)?
I believe that the DX film coding contains this information.
Eric
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From: "Cy Galley"
Subject: Re: Film rewind with memory (WAS: Photo Expo Japan
2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd)
Why not have the camera notch the film edge when exposed? or
burn a spot in
the sprocket hole area? Then when inserted, the film would
wind past the
last mark
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Please send the messages to me directly, to not disturb other members, thanks.
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At 22:11 9/04/01, fairy wrote:
Paul wrote:
"I thought the Aussies amongst us may be interested to know that the C R =
Kennedy web site has a description of the MZ-S, nothing we don't already =
know, with the release date anticipated as July."
Hey Paul, you beat me to it! I was just about to
Hi,
At 8 Apr 2001 22:49:52 -0700 (PDT),
petit miam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Try also checking the email address at the top. I do
not believe it belongs to Yoshihiko.
Thanks petit miam.
It wasn't I at all who sent the original message.
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Color Slide:
Fuji Sensia II
Color Print:
Kodak Porta 160NC
C41 BW
Kodak T400CN
Andy Harbin
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 15:45:41 +1200, Robertson, Alastair wrote:
I am intested in people's opinions of the Sigma 600mm F8 mirror lens. I
would like a long lens but don't have the money for a prime and weight is a
factor too. I know mirrors are a compromise with bokeh and fixed aperture
etc but I
Doh! That was supposed to go just to Albano!
Sorry all!
Andy
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From: Andy Harbin
Sent: April 9, 2001 1:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Favorite Film Roll Call
Color Slide:
Fuji Sensia II
Color Print:
Kodak Porta 160NC
C41 BW
Kodak T400CN
A scroll of mail from "Bill D. Casselberry" [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
Sun, 08 Apr 2001 13:01:17 -0800
Read it? y
Under normal circumstances I "rate" the CN at 320, as well.
The key element in my comment specific to CN above is the
"requiring as fas a shuter speed as possible".
Denis wrote:
Don't know about sealing.
But I have other theme: under back cover (film cover) of the body I saw many
(something around 12-15) contact plates. And IMHO it not for battery grip...
Looks like something can be attached to the camera's back...
...but remember that the standard
Allow me to state a different opinion on this. I wouldn't ditch the RTF for a .98x
magnificaton of the viewfinder.
I like the RTF as on my MZ5. I think it's very good and comes very handy (given it's
limitations and although not as versatile as my 500FTZ).
(And anyone on this list can call me
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
85mm: Why WAIT FOREVER for any 85/1.8K, or an affordable 85/1.4A*, when you
can have an 85/2M or Tamron 90/2.5 for about $200? And if you will do most
of your 85mm shooting at f/4 or wider, may I suggest an 85/1.8 in
screwmount, for about $250 + adapter?
When I buy
That's exactly what I've done for years, ever since reading this advice in
the late 70s from Modern Photography's film expert, whose name was
something like Rothbard. He routinely dialed in 2/3 additional exposure to
help ensure saturation and detail.
I often forget to add exposure when shooting
Peter Smith wrote:
I used only an MG for a while (similar spec to ME). It's a useful way to
re-think exposure modes. I argued that it was both aperture priority and
shutter priority and programmed. How?
Why bother with getting an MG? Just get a K1000, ar anything with match-
needle
I imagine this may have been brought up before but I did
not see it. I am interested in the new eFilm which fits
into your normal SLR and has 1.3 megapixels with the
equivalent of 100 speed film. I think it'll take 24
exposures and then let you dump them into a CF card and
the go again.
Of
Didn't we set up a site for discussing grandfather mountain that was not on
this list? I never went to it... crashed my computer (again)... lost the
address... and now I want to the site. Man am I hard to get along with. :)
Do we have any more people going then the last time i checked?
Somebody should inform Contax.
However, the rep clearly told me that it is IMPOSSIBLE, for there is no
means to memorise to which frame was exposed on the film.
Paul Franklin Stregevsky
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 9, 2001 12:27 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd
Somebody should inform Contax.
Please expand on that thought Paul. The way 35mm film comes out
of the box, there is no tool in
Didn't most wedding pros expose Vericolor VPS 160 at 120?
Part of the stated ISO is a marketing game that does not precisely
correlate to the ISO density tests. label it conservatively (call an 800
film 640), and you can promote it as a film that is more tolerant of
underexposure. Lable it
Amateur hack!! G
Norm
Lasse Karlsson wrote:
snip Lasse, (not too impressed by the various definitions and labeling of
different kind of picture shooters.)
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If we are to believe one EBay seller who decided to write anything to set
apart his Sears telephoto, the ideal focal length for sunsets is 135mm.
--
"James Adams" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is the ideal lens for landscapes? I currently have a Sigma 1:2.8 24mm,
SMC
Doubt you will ever see it. It's vaporware.
Norm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I imagine this may have been brought up before but I did
not see it. I am interested in the new eFilm which fits
into your normal SLR and has 1.3 megapixels with the
equivalent of 100 speed film. I think it'll take 24
Ralf,
I also managed to get the lightmeter on without any batteries in the winder.
to what did you connect pin 2 to, camera chassis ?
I have no explanation yet, and do not think it is reliable, because
otherwise Pentax could remove 2 contact pins from its
winder/camera interface.
Probably to do
William Robb wrote:
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 9, 2001 12:27 PM
Subject: Re[2]: Photo Expo Japan 2001 - MZ-S and FA31Ltd
Somebody should inform Contax.
Please expand on that thought Paul. The way 35mm film comes out
of the
Raimo wrote:
Absolutely useless feature - if you need to write down the film number, you could
more easily write down the frame number and wind on to this number.
So you think its easier to fit on a lens cap; set the camera in manual mode; choose
the fastest possible shutterspeed; and
On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Pentax Clover wrote:
Hello
I am sorry to tell you this, but I hate the MZ-S.
It is too expensive and far from being almost-perfect.
I am now really waiting for the next flagship of Pentax (the real one)
See you
Here we go again... Do you feel like sharing the reasons
Martin wrote:
Another approach would be to have say n memories where the camera would
store the number of frames already shot for n rolls. All you have to do is
write down in the roll what memory goes with that roll.
Example
Memory #1: 23 frames shot
Memory #2: 8 frames shot
..
Strange to be replying immediately to my own question
but I just found references in the list, about five
pages back on the site, to the new forthcoming 24-90
Pentax zoom. It looks like it's a little faster, for
starters. I suppose not normally being interested in
zooms, I had ignored these
Chaso DeChaso wrote:
Strange to be replying immediately to my own question
but I just found references in the list, about five
pages back on the site, to the new forthcoming 24-90
Pentax zoom. It looks like it's a little faster, for
starters. I suppose not normally being interested in
Anyone with tips on a lightweight flash bracket for use on my FA* 200/4 macro?
Pl
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On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Chaso DeChaso wrote:
In any case, I need to pick up a general purpose zoom of reasonable
quality and am looking at the two FA 28-105 lenses listed on BH's
site for $259 (Silver) and $357 (Black). Does anyone have any
experience with either?
Before I start pissing
Bob Blakely wrote:
Well, I suspect it'll be about US$1080.00 or so. If it does what it says it does,
this is
a reasonable price for me and seems a good higher end addition to the Pentax line.
It's $999 at Adorama.
It'll probably work for me too.
tv
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Martin wrote:
and voila, the camera winds to that frame plus 1.
I love it when you speak French!
Regards,
Bob...
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we were promised perpetual peace.
They swore if we gave up our weapons
that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when
Clover wrote:
I am sorry to tell you this, but I hate the MZ-S.
It is too expensive and far from being almost-perfect.
All is in the eye of the beholder. I for one find the MZ-S to be a remarkable balance
of small size, good built, simplicity and speedy operation. In fact, I never expected
Hi Peter,
I am guessing that Stan wrote that last reply prior to reading your comments
about the powerzoom and its affects on mounting that lens, and this is why I
didn't worry to respond (and you did it for me now anyways!).
I am glad that you did provide this info though, as even though I did
Clover wrote:
Dear Pal , For the moment this only proove one thing : We need to retest it
!
I am waiting for a little time for testing it again, and even waiting for
what CdI will find by retesting it
Yeah, Not only should they retest the FA* 85/1.4 but also the A* 85/1.4, A* 135/1.8
and
Hi,
I suggested this a couple of months back, it still seems the
best way to do it !!!
Rob
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From rob Wed Feb 14 01:19:55 2001
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 01:19:54 GMT
I would expect that the body assigns an incremental number to
each film as it is loaded,
on the DX coding protocol, Willy Robb wrote:
Consumer films have to be coded in full stops because most
of the consumer cameras cannot read partial stops. I think
the four pin DX readers can identify :
ISO 25, 50, 100, 200, 400, 800, and 1600.
I
Paul wrote:
If we are to believe one EBay seller who decided to write anything to set
apart his Sears telephoto, the ideal focal length for sunsets is 135mm.
Da Bum Don't Know Jack! :^)
of all my sunsets, I would venture that my absolute fave is
the
Hi Pal
You may want to look at Mark Cassino's page for ideas.
Don
http://www.markcassino.com/essays/insectphoto.htm
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From: "Pl Jensen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2001 5:59 PM
Subject: Macro flash bracket
Anyone with tips on a
Well, I suspect it'll be about US$1080.00 or so. If it does what it says it does, this
is
a reasonable price for me and seems a good higher end addition to the Pentax line.
Remember, the LX is more than US$1200.00. It's clearly not intended as a replacement
for
the LX, though it'll satisfy the
Hey gang,
Ok, I'm not going to make this a LONG post, as I want to go and play,
but I JUST got the LX I had ordered from MXV camera's . . . It was in
EX+ condition according to them, and I must say that it's in much better
condition than I had expected. A few small scratches to the
Chris,
I consider myself a documentarian, not an artist. The point I wished to
make was that, even with matrix metering and autofocusing, real life is
difficult to capture accurately on film without periodic user intervention.
It is a point that Herb Keppler makes time and again in his Popular
On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 21:54:43 +0200, you wrote:
. I can send an test from Popular (or Modern?) Photography,
testing all various mirror lenses, if you want.
I'd like to have that test.
--
Happy Trails,
Texdance
http://members.fortunecity.com/texdance
http://members1.clubphoto.com/john8202
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Ok guys,
In the package with my recent LX, I also got a very strange lens.
It's marked "ULTRA-MICRO-TAKUMAR 1:1.3 30mm". "ASAHI OPT. CO. JAPAN"
Anyone have any idea what this lens is for? It's got aperture setting
from 1.3 to 22, and has a screw mount on the rear of the lens that is
Thanks Tanya
So the following Vivitar lenses will not mount on AF Pentax bodies later
than the SF series.
One is the Vivitar Series 1 70-210mm F3.5 macro with 67mm Filter thread.
One is the Vivitar Series 1 28mm f2 prime labelled "Auto Wide-Angle".
Anyone else got any to add?
BTW someone was
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 9, 2001 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: Push Processing C-41
I agree, William. But who approved Wal-Mart's television
commercial, where
the sales clerk looks into the camera and says, "There are no
bad pictures.
As
Nis won Paul. Is xat rili Mark Twain's ritin?
Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: 09 April 2001 17:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Re[3]: Subject: e-bay words (very OT!)
See also Mark Twain's
- Original Message -
From: "William Kane"
Subject: EXCITEMENT!! LX dating help . . .
I'm missing one of the winder covers. Anyone have a spare,
or know
of a source? (I really want a winder to go on it, but don't
have the
cash right now)
Good luck. Maybe Peter at Camera Direct?
I recently followed an "about me" link on ebay which I found amusing - link
below if you want to see the whole thing (scroll to the bottom for the funny
bit) and extract below to save you the trouble.
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/foto/
extract:
I charge a 10% eBay stupidity surcharge to
- Original Message -
From: "William Kane" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: April 9, 2001 5:28 PM
Subject: Question on RARE Lens
Ok guys,
In the package with my recent LX, I also got a very strange
lens.
It's marked "ULTRA-MICRO-TAKUMAR 1:1.3 30mm". "ASAHI OPT. CO.
- Original Message -
From: "Peter Smith"
Subject: RE: Vivitar Series 1 28mm/f2
And can you give me some charm tips so that I too may attract
anonymous
gifts of Pentax gear?
Have an operation and a whole bunch of hormone injections and
plastic surgery
Wheatfield Willie
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This
But you can't get here in N. America as far as I know. I read somewhere
that the U.S. photographers prefer prints than slides. Thus Fuji and Kodak
have avoided sending the E-6 film here,
Jim A.
From: "Paul Jones" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:54:16
To view the guestbook, go to
http://robertstech.com/guestbook.mv?parm_func=view
There's an option for adding your own entry. haven't been any entries in a while
but as we get closer I expect there'll be more messages posted.
Mark
"jeepgirl" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Didn't we set up a site
Hey Folks,
I occasionally work on prescribed fire teams. Is there a magic exposure at
which fire on film looks like fire to humans? Any preferred film to use? I
work with slide format, usually Velvia, but for this I could imagine
something faster may be appropriate.
Barry
I think Raimo was saying that having to write down the film number is the
useless feature - you can just as easily write down the first unexposed
frame number. Also in the quotes someone posted about the Minolta Dynax I
saw nothing that suggested that the camera remembers which frame to go to as
I put a little relevant information on the guestbook.
Casey Szocinski
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At 05:49 PM 4/9/2001 -0500, William Kane wrote:
I'm missing one of the winder covers. Anyone have a spare, or know
of a source? (I really want a winder to go on it, but don't have the
cash right now)
I just got a couple from Pentax USA. It's a part they carry in stock. $3.06
each plus
I too love the big viewfinder inmy old ME and MX. Unfortunately, I think that getting a viewfinder is not as easy as getting rid of the built-in flash. Consider the MZ-M, which has no flash, and has the lowest magnification of any Pentax viewfinder.
As I understand it, the reason why viewfinder
On 8 Apr 2001, at 22:21, William Robb wrote:
Well, I had a look through some old stuff in the bottom of my
filing cabinet. I have an old Petersons book that deals with
medium format cameras in general, and has a fairly extensive
overview of the Pentax 6x7. Also a Pentax publication called
Camera World is showing the Pentax MZ-S. I put one into a shopping cart and
it came up with US $929. Here's a link to the camera:
http://www.cameraworld.com/cwc/products/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_
id=599813FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=140489bmUID=986875736760
--Mark
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Mark Erickson wrote:
Camera World is showing the Pentax MZ-S. I put one into a shopping cart and
it came up with US $929.
Did you proceed to checkout?
tv
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eFilm has had some management problems, and are VERY late to market with
their product. Not only is the resolution too low to be considered viable
anymore, the CCD size turns your wide angle lenses into telephotos because
the CCD is much smaller than 24x36mm.
Don't even consider it at this
Maybe more people have the 24/2.0? it is cheaper.
The 24/2.0 is also a * lense.
OK. Why is the FA* 24/2 getting votes and the FA 20/2.8 getting none.
I had pretty much decided on the FA 20/2.8. You know, like the car
commercial, Wider is Better. It seems that some combination of * glass
Believe it or not, this comes up a lot in photojournalism. :-) We generally
use ISO 400. Most press association fire photo winners are flames with
firemen or grieving home owners silhouetted. Ironically, this is not
difficult to do as it is what your camera's meter will probably do by
itself,
Considering what I thought it was going to cost, that really doesn't socks.
Mark Erickson wrote:
Camera World is showing the Pentax MZ-S. I put one into a shopping cart
and
it came up with US $929.
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Just tea this time, and I didn't have any in my mouth. But, I
fully intend to collect that beer, is the snow gone up there
yet? grin
I get the impression you have the same liking for cameras d'jur
as I do.
--Tom
William Robb wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Cy Galley"
Subject:
Hello Chaso,
In any case, I need to pick up a general purpose zoom of reasonable
quality and am looking at the two FA
28-105 lenses listed on BH's site for $259 (Silver) and $357 (Black).
You better wait for the new FA24-90 lens (~500US$) or for the NEW
FA28-105/f3.2-4.5, which you can
Still too complicated. APS cameras with MRC is so much easier than any
approach formulated by the makers of upper end SLR cameras.
Anyway you look at it, you will lose one frame.
Change of topic. The current Shutterbug magazine mentions hybrid cameras
that use film and also storing digital
In the package with my recent LX, I also got a very strange lens.
It's marked "ULTRA-MICRO-TAKUMAR 1:1.3 30mm". "ASAHI OPT. CO.
JAPAN"
has a screw mount on the rear of the lens that is smaller than 42mm
. . . maybe 37 or 39
Recently William Robb wrote:
It sounds like a bellows lens for
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