Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Henri Toivonen wrote:
Heh, so, I bought a 135/3.5 today for $25. It was so cheap, i couldn't
help myself.
Is that the M or the predecessor? They are different.
Kostas
It's the M.
/Henri
Damn!!! Henri Toivonen got one into the archive. That's a run of 5
messages to me, according to the rule below. Beat that!
regards,
Anthony Farr
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From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The rule is that I have to both receive my previous message back, AND see
it
Anthony Farr wrote:
Damn!!! Henri Toivonen got one into the archive. That's a run of 5
messages to me, according to the rule below. Beat that!
regards,
Anthony Farr
Who? Wha? What?
What did I do? :-)
/Henri
You've done nothing wrong, Henri. In fact, I'm very happy to see someone
else out in listland, I was going a little stir-crazy in solitary
confinement.
The explanation can be read by tracking this thread at:
http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/maillist.html#195499
(the
Anthony Farr wrote:
You've done nothing wrong, Henri. In fact, I'm very happy to see someone
else out in listland, I was going a little stir-crazy in solitary
confinement.
The explanation can be read by tracking this thread at:
Somebody had to keep the list ticking over. You can have a turn now.
regards,
Anthony Farr
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From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, your monologue did arrive to my mailbox atleast. You were starting
to look a bit stir-crazy, talking to yourself like that.
Loud and clear Anthony (Re: OT - test, again). I was actually about to go
'where is everybody?' too- I just got back from a Fri/Sat/Sun camping trip
(Northern War) with SCA Australia, and got back only to find 135 messages
(excl. PAW) in my PDML folder.. I was expecting triple!
In other news, not
I was just comparing the viewfinder between my 5n and a friend's 50. I was a
bit amazed to discover that my 5n's viewfinder has gives everything a rather
warm (or woody) cast, while the 50 had a bluish (or tinny) cast, and I
didn't get the same satisfaction composing with it (even though it
It sounds like you should have my darkroom, Ryan. God knows, I'm not using
it at present. There's a Jobo ATL1000 sitting idle, and I know for certain
that it does the best, cleanest C41 and E6 processing this side of a
dip'n'dunk machine in a pro-lab. I'd sell it except that I have plans for a
One of the reasons i went with the PZ-1 over the 5n was the finder.I felt the 5n was to
'closed in' for my
liking.
I'll be interested in the *istD response's as i'm very close to looking at one.
Dave Brooks
I was just comparing the viewfinder between my 5n
Shaun Canning asked this about Photokina:
Only 9 weeks to go folksany wish lists?
Image stabilization is too much to hope for.
I'd like some assurance that they aren't dropping most of their lens line.
Tom Reese
Doesn't the 5n have a pentaprism, while the 50 has a pentamirror. I suspect
that the journey through the glass gives the viewfinder image of the 5n the
warm cast.
regards,
Anthony Farr
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From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(snip)
I was a
bit amazed to discover
Right! I remember reading that but it must have slipped my mind! Thanks.
Ryan
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From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 9:33 PM
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
Doesn't the 5n have a pentaprism,
'Closed in'? How do you mean exactly? I love the images I see thru my 5n!
I'd love to check out a PZ-1 if it gets any better. Although very unlikely
I'd consider switching.. Just nice to see what other people like using.
Cheers,
Ryan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
lol yeah! Do they x-ray interstate mail? :) I've never developed film before
(though I've done darkroom printing), but don't they say c41's tricky. You
seem pretty pleased- what's your Jobo ATL1000 worth, and was it worth it?
Regards,
Ryan
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From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL
From a 1976 custom WhoreMobile to this shot in only about 10 messages.
This group is weird... or mebbe it's just Paul. Grin.
Nice shot, Jostein.
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From: Jostein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another pic from our recent family vacation.
http://www.oksne.net/paw/romance.html
I've wondered, too, why so many list members use UVs or Skylights
as protection. It seems to come down to shooting style; some
folks leave lenses out and about while shooting and risk damage.
I've never felt the need for them. In fact, I've poked the glass
out of a few in order to extend rubber
Hi!
Yet another wonderful image. For me, the title doesn't quite fit. I
get a different feeling - one of solitude. The placement of the
boat,
catching the oars up and the lighting are all great. Something that
could be used for a magazine cover or postcard.
Jostein, I agree with Bruce. It is
Looks like a Chinon body, probably made for Revue, with a Takumar lens on
it.
Cheers,
Dario Bonazza
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From: Raimo K [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Asahi, not Asahi ??
Strange is correct. Seems not to be a
I think the viewfinder screen is one heck of a lot more
important than bells and whistles. I also think pre-autofocus
viewfinders tend to be a whole lot better.
Ryan Lee wrote:
I was just comparing the viewfinder between my 5n and a friend's 50.
snip...
Anybody notice the viewfinder difference
Well, I was not so sure myself - until I managed to bump a sizeable chunk
out of the skylight filter on my 3.5/35-105 SMC Pentax. I had used the
filter to correct the bluish cast of the Fujichrome Sensia II. The hood for
this lens is useless as a hood or protection. Rubber hoods also give scant
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From: Jostein
Subject: Re: Photokina...
Only 9 weeks too go folksany wish lists?
1. Tickets to go there... :-)
2. Don't discuss it to death before it happens.
William Robb
Anthony Farr's paranoia acted up and he wrote:
This is sad, I'm talking to myself.
Hellooo.
Did everyone but me unsubscribe and start a new list?
Reminds me of the time my parents moved away while I was at school :-(
Just
Ryan,
The Jobo cost me $2,000 2nd hand about 5 or 6 years ago. A couple went for
not much less on eBay Aus a couple of months back.
The ATL does almost everything. It tempers the chemistry, it times, it
agitates and it changes the solutions. But it simply dumps the solutions,
and to get the
Careful, I might believe you ;-)
regards,
Anthony Farr
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From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We're busy writing private e-mails about you. I can't believe not one
person
is defending you.
G
Tom Reese
This is a repost, my original post seems to have snagged somewhere in
cyberspace.
My apologies if it appears twice.
-
The seller says that the camera is from the '50s, but I doubt it because of
the style and finish. For
Having said that, next week I'll probably smash the front
glass of a favorite lens.
I did just that in May. Dropped my istD and my Sigma 28-105mm face down
and shattered my UV filter. I've also had salt spray from the sea get on
the filter, which doesn't hurt the filter at all but would have
Here is a shot taken at the Pima Air Museum, near Tucson. I was down there
about a year ago, on a VERY HOT day. I sought relief in the shade of this
old B-52 and noticed an interesting view with one of the engine pods.
This old warriors probably went on hundreds of training flights before
Corrected text.
Here is a shot taken at the Pima Air Museum, near Tucson. I was down there
about a year ago, on a VERY HOT day. I sought relief in the shade of this
old B-52 and noticed an interesting view with one of the engine pods.
These old warriors probably went on hundreds of training
Just out of curiouslity, does the focus hexagon appear when you think
its in focus?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2004 12:37:27 AM
MF for landscapes, probably
pre-focussed MF for many sports and full MF for portraits
too. Gotta get those eyes sharp, sayeth all the masters.
Am I the only person
A classic shot. Well composed, exposed, and sharp. You do such nice
work. I especially like the high contrast rendering of the boat and the
couple.
How about Hey, I thought you brought the beer. vbg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/1/2004 12:09:50 AM
Jostein,
Yet another wonderful image. For me, the title doesn't quite fit. I
get a different feeling - one of solitude. The placement of the boat,
catching the oars up and the lighting are all great.
Yes.
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From: Steve Desjardins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: To AF or not to AF: was Re: Film vs Digita, was:
lRe:Pentax is Dying?
Just out of curiouslity, does the focus hexagon appear when
Does anyone here have a high end Canon or Nikon (like a D2H or a 1D II)?
I suspect that these AF systems are much better and may lead to more of
a fire and forget mentality with a little practice. I MF a lot on my
*ist D since I have some A lenses I really like, but when I do use AF I
always use
GRIN!
You do not want to compare that 5n's viewfinder to a clean MX's. You would
immediately sell the camera, and never take another photo for the rest of your life.
Consider what your mythical newbie would be comparing the viewfinder too? Then
you may want rethink your scenario.
--
Ryan Lee
On Sun, 1 Aug 2004, graywolf wrote:
You do not want to compare that 5n's viewfinder to a clean MX's.
You would immediately sell the camera, and never take another photo
for the rest of your life.
When I got my MX (just CLA'd) I didn't use the ZX-5n for quite a long
time. There were many
6am Sunday morning and you expect a reply?
--
Anthony Farr wrote:
This is sad, I'm talking to myself.
Hellooo.
Did everyone but me unsubscribe and start a new list?
Reminds me of the time my parents moved away while I was at
At this time of year it will have been light for over an hour, wouldn't it?
regards,
Anthony Farr
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From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED]
6am Sunday morning and you expect a reply?
--
In fact the first time it goes sharp is the sharpest focus you are going to get.
The reason for that is because at the same time you are fiddling with the focus,
your eye is also fiddling with its focus trying to get that blurry image sharp.
By the time you have rocked through the focus point
I have a number of shots taken by friends and relatives, waiters and fellow
tourists, etc., with my AF cameras where they haven't realised that, if you
AF on a space between your real
subjects, you're not going to have them in focus!
Yes, very good point! Funny story about this. I was taking
I think it is because the lake is big and empty, except for one small
boat. The possible subject of the couple in the boat is relatively
small and off to the side, suggesting that they are not the main point
of interest, but rather part of a bigger whole.
Bruce
Sunday, August 1, 2004, 2:20:56
To adjust the diopter:
Point the camera at something moderately bright that has noting to focus on. A
evenly lite wall works well.
Adjust the diopter until the viewfinder screen, not the wall looks sharp.
Luckily modern cameras always seem to have all kinds of distracting things on
them to
Good luck on this one Frank. I share your desires and understand all
the obstacles.
Paul
On Aug 1, 2004, at 5:12 PM, Juey Chong Ong wrote:
On Jul 27, 2004, at 12:37 PM, frank theriault wrote:
Wish me luck; I've applied for several
non-photography jobs, this is the first photo job I've
taken a
Jostein wrote:
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another wonderful picture, you swine 8-) Think I'll take up
chromatography..
Um... well thanks, I think...:-)
Are you going for the volatile thing?
Just drowning in a sea of vapour
Too much work, too
Jostein wrote:
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another wonderful picture, you swine 8-) Think I'll take up
chromatography..
Um... well thanks, I think...:-)
Are you going for the volatile thing?
Just drowning in a sea of vapour
Too much work, too
Jostein wrote:
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another wonderful picture, you swine 8-) Think I'll take up
chromatography..
Um... well thanks, I think...:-)
Are you going for the volatile thing?
Just drowning in a sea of vapour
Too much work, too
Two votes for an MX viewfinder (including Alex's).. Maybe I'll try scouting
used equipment just for a look and a play.
You would
immediately sell the camera, and never take another photo for the rest of
your life.
I hope you don't mean that.. The way it's phrased makes it sound like the MX
I heard somewhere the 300D, like the mz50, uses a pentamirror too. That
doesn't sound too good (for them, of course). Anyone had a play?
Regards,
Ryan
PS. Speaking of the D70, I was comparing it to the D100 and even the s2pro
(!). The D70 looked like plenty of camera for the price, and almost
Oh shoot.. mid 05.. I have to wait that long before sending you my film to
develop?? ;)
Cheers,
Ryan
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From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: Ryan's buck-earning endeavour
Ryan,
The Jobo cost
Hi,
Ryan Lee wrote:
Two votes for an MX viewfinder (including Alex's).. Maybe I'll try scouting
used equipment just for a look and a play.
Add another one to that. I have only ever looked through one MX
viewfinder and it was a decidedly secondhand one at that. Nonetheless,
it was the best,
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can say categorically that brass
band musicians are easier than house martins
More predictable flight paths? :-)
Jostein
(who is feeling silly tonight. Last day of holidays; back to work
tomorrow.)
Jostein wrote:
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From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I can say categorically that brass
band musicians are easier than house martins
More predictable flight paths? :-)
*- Compared to the audience, that is, who were all, er, flying high.
(who is feeling silly
Amita asked:
AG Am I the only person here who has a hard time focusing manually with the
AG istD's matte screen? I rarely get it right, but could that be because
AG I've only had the camera for a couple of months? I do just fine with my
AG older cameras and my ZX-50.
and Bruce replied:
Jens said:
A great thing about the Vivitar is that it comes with a built-in shade/hood,
which the A 2.8/20mm doesn't.
You're not talking about the Vivitar 19mm f/3.8, filter size 62mm, here are
you? Mine did not come with a hood.
ERN
who actually used said lens recently, first time for quite
Jostein:
Another pic from our recent family vacation.
http://www.oksne.net/paw/romance.html
Oh, wow.
Simply gorgeous.
ERN
Raimo K posted:
Well, I was not so sure myself - until I managed to bump a sizeable chunk
out of the skylight filter on my 3.5/35-105 SMC Pentax. I had used the
filter to correct the bluish cast of the Fujichrome Sensia II. The hood for
this lens is useless as a hood or protection. Rubber
Hi,
Ryan Lee wrote:
Two votes for an MX viewfinder (including Alex's).. Maybe I'll try scouting
used equipment just for a look and a play.
Add another one to that. I have only ever looked through one MX
viewfinder and it was a decidedly secondhand one at that. Nonetheless,
it
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jens said:
A great thing about the Vivitar is that it comes with a built-in shade/hood,
which the A 2.8/20mm doesn't.
You're not talking about the Vivitar 19mm f/3.8, filter size 62mm, here are
you? Mine did not come with a hood.
No, nor mine...
keith whaley
ERN
who
When I bought the Z-1p, MZ-5n was shown to me and the MZ-5n viewfinder was
much inferior for manual focus. But then again, when compared with pre-AF
cameras, Z-1p doesn't look good either, thanks to the plastic eyepiece.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
'Closed in'? How do you mean
It has a lot to do with the eyepiece magnification, then the pentaprism,
and screen last.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
I think the viewfinder screen is one heck of a lot more
important than bells and whistles. I also think pre-autofocus
viewfinders tend to be a whole lot better.
I do miss the MX viewfinder which is big and clear even with the old screen.
Not even the LX is as good.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
You do not want to compare that 5n's viewfinder to a clean MX's. You would
immediately sell the camera, and never take another photo for the rest of
(and MZ-S has the best viewfinder among Pentax AF SLRs).
Except the magnification is really low for manual focus.
Nothing but physics law - smaller surface of matte screen gathers more
light... It has rather warm cast to the picture.
I think the eyepiece is part of the equation too.
Alan Chan
Just remove the screen and blow of the dust. You might even fit a MZ-M
screen for split image.
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
And about comparing the viewfinder to say a point and shoot, the mz50's
viewfinder wasn't too much better. The sample I got to play with had black
specks thru the
I guess, I come across as an awful snob. There are two things to think of here.
First, if the camera suits your needs, it suits your needs. There is nothing
more that needs be said.
Second, I think, a lot of us old timers spent a lot of time perfecting skills.
Then along came automation that
Great post, valid points. Everyone should read this.
Paul
On Aug 1, 2004, at 9:50 PM, graywolf wrote:
I guess, I come across as an awful snob. There are two things to think
of here.
First, if the camera suits your needs, it suits your needs. There is
nothing more that needs be said.
Second, I
I've enjoyed the conversation this weekend. The list has once again
achieved a measure of sanity. That says a lot about the intelligence
and emotional stability of the majority. I'll be back again soon, but I
have other things to deal with now. I hope to have very good news by
the time I log
Hi,
I don't suppose there's a (pro) fix to make my (newbie) ZX-M
viewfinder any better? I've never used any other MF body but I know
from comparing specs that it's small, and not terribly bright. It's
also got specks of dust on it, but the screen's 'fixed' so I don't
know if it's cleanable. I
There's a small release clip hiding behind the mirror bumper foam that
releases the focusing screen.
A paper clip with a bent end works to release it.
Then you can carefully blow the dust off, just take your time locking it
back up.
You'll fiddle with it for a while and it will eventually pop back
the SF story graywolf mentions is 'A Feeling of Power' by Isaac
Asimov, I think. A lowly technician 'discovers' division and the
military gets interested in the human algebra project because of the
potential of having 'unmachined' combat vehicles that'd give them the
competitive edge. Asimov
Thanks, Don. I'll try it when I'm feeling brave enough.. Badri.
There's a small release clip hiding behind the mirror bumper foam that
releases the focusing screen.
A paper clip with a bent end works to release it.
If it is any consolation, I have always hated microprism focusing aids in the
viewfinder. I do understand that the viewfinder sceen in the ZX-M can be
changed, but I personally have never used the camera so can not tell you how.
--
Badri A wrote:
Hi,
I don't suppose there's a (pro) fix to
So long. Don't stay away too long.
--
Paul Stenquist wrote:
I've enjoyed the conversation this weekend. The list has once again
achieved a measure of sanity. That says a lot about the intelligence and
emotional stability of the majority. I'll be back again soon, but I have
other things to deal
After hearing you folks praising the MX today and then Graywolf talking
about AF killing the desire/need to learn basic skills I went digging around
for my old MX.
The poor thing is all but dead, a dozen dents, scratched eyepiece and
screen, no meter, DOF preview shot, etc, etc.
Sure sounds and
Mike wrote:
Too much work, too little time to do enjoyable things. Did manage to
spend a nice evening yesterday at a local version of the Proms. Thrashed
through five strips of gelatin whilst listening to some good music and
practicing my focusing technique. I can say categorically that
Hi Joe,
If no one has replied on the 5n and grip, I'd be willing to take it off
your hands for $200 plus shipping. I'd love to buy the limited too, but
its beyond my current financial abilities. (So is the 5n, but I think I
can hide the purchase from the war department)
Sid B
On Jul 30, 2004,
Yea, you outbid me you varmit. ;)
rg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After hearing you folks praising the MX today and then Graywolf talking
about AF killing the desire/need to learn basic skills I went digging around
for my old MX.
The poor thing is all but dead, a dozen dents, scratched eyepiece and
I managed to barely beat Harry M too!
Which one are you?
Don
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From: Gonz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2004 10:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Meet the (soon to be) new family member.
Yea, you outbid me you varmit. ;)
rg
Just to make you feel a little better.
http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/MZ-Mscreen0.jpg
http://www3.telus.net/wlachan/MZ-Mscreen1.jpg
Alan Chan
http://www.pbase.com/wlachan
Thanks, Don. I'll try it when I'm feeling brave enough.. Badri.
There's a small release clip hiding behind the mirror bumper
Oh that's great.. I didn't know that was possible. Any more detailed
instructions Alan?
Thanks,
Ryan
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From: Alan Chan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2004 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: MZ50 (or maybe 60) vs MZ5n viewfinder
Just remove the
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