Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Malcolm Smith
Graywolf wrote: Many of us here on the list sound a lot like those folks who screamed because their car no longer came with a starting crank. I still do, but it was only a few years ago. I'm still getting used to wind up windows. Isn't technology great :-) Malcolm

Re: [OT] Nikon bites with 12MPix D2X

2004-09-16 Thread John Bailey
Ah so. Nikon is still hungery! I assume this is 35mm sized? John --- Sylwester Pietrzyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dpreview.com/news/0409/04091605nikond2x.asp Velly intellesting - they've used CMOS sensor for the first time :-) -- Best Regards Sylwek = John

Re: istDs - bouquet

2004-09-16 Thread John Bailey
MLU is the forgotten anti-shake technology used in the obsolete g analog cameras! John --- Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't give one whit about the frame rate (anything would be quicker than my TLR) or the lack of MLU (that's what the B

Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera

2004-09-16 Thread Gonz
Wow. What were they thinking. Must have been in the pipeline and would have cost more to kill it than to sell a couple thousand and then kill it. Graywolf wrote: http://nikonimaging.com/global/news/2004/0916_02.htm He, he, told you so...

Re: PESO: landscape

2004-09-16 Thread brooksdj
Very interesting photo Juan. Is it partially a painting or bill board at the bottom.? Very interesting colours and lines. I like the glass thingy bottom leftish. Dave With apologies to both Adams and Eggleston, a silly picture of beautiful Wyoming:

Re: PESO: Wasp at Supper

2004-09-16 Thread brooksdj
Fred that 33L is pretty sharp.Detail is great. Looks like he's ready to run a race. Nice one Dave Brooks After dinner I was sitting out on my deck enjoying a coffee when I noticed a wasp on my wooden patio table. It was walking around a knot hole

Re: PESO - Disembodied

2004-09-16 Thread brooksdj
Very nice shot. The various straight lines are very captivating. The shaows work to. Gives it some errie depth. Dave http://www.g0nz.com/images/shadows.jpg Comments, criticisms, ridicule, etc. welcome. Praise too! rg

Re: PESO: Rainbow Surfers

2004-09-16 Thread brooksdj
See, this is why i want to get a smaller digital camera.If i tried this with the D2h they would have been home by the time i was ready.LOL Nice shot Jens. The bouy on the right adds to the shot for depth i think. Nice coloues. Dave Brooks On my way home

Re: PAW: just a flower shot

2004-09-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
Well it's not a snap dragon, why would he expect it to snap at him. Cotty took a deap breath and gave forth:: On 16/9/04, Boros Attila, discombobulated, unleashed: http://ns.atn.ro/~attila/album/view.php?i=6 This is also from the botanical garden. Perhaps someone who knows flowers better than

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
Actually I believe that it is counter survival for them. But that's only my belief. You can believe anything you want. Paul Stenquist wrote: Trying it is one thing. Using it every day is another. When you use it every day, it becomes second nature. You don't even realize you're doing it.

Re: BIIIIG prints - *istD style

2004-09-16 Thread Frantisek
Just use Genuine Fractals trial version, good up to 20 images (then it stops). For really big prints (and even upsizing to e.g. 400 dpi Noritsu prints at 30x40cm), it works better than just plain bicubic. Or at least use Lanczos interpolation (in freeware IrfanView), it's quite better than just

Re: Use of Green Button (was Re: istDs - what a great camera!)

2004-09-16 Thread John Francis
keller.schaefer mused: If I remember correctly, operating the DOF preview lever around the shutter release does the same than the green button in manual on the *ist D. No - the DOF preview lever also activates the metering circuitry (so you can check to see what the camera thinks the exposure

OT Adobe Pagemaker (PC platform)

2004-09-16 Thread mike wilson
Hi, If anyone has any expertise in the above, I am in desperate need of assistance. Off list, please. mike

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Malcolm Smith wrote: Graywolf wrote: Many of us here on the list sound a lot like those folks who screamed because their car no longer came with a starting crank. I still do, but it was only a few years ago. I'm still getting used to wind up windows. Isn't technology great :-) No. The

Re: PAW: just a flower shot

2004-09-16 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Peter J. Alling wrote: Well it's not a snap dragon, why would he expect it to snap at him. Cotty took a deap breath and gave forth:: On 16/9/04, Boros Attila, discombobulated, unleashed: http://ns.atn.ro/~attila/album/view.php?i=6 This is also from the botanical garden. Perhaps someone who

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Antonio
Yes, you do like the odd mass-debate! A. On 16/9/04 8:09 pm, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I voice my opinions. If you have a problem with my points, argue the points. To say I just argue to argue isnt valid. I argue the things I feel strongly about, not to just get in

Re: Mailing list problems

2004-09-16 Thread Antonio
Brian, messages to and from the list have been dissapearing for a few months now. Nobody seems to know why. A. On 16/9/04 4:41 pm, Brian Dipert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm hoping this makes it to the list; I'll check the archives later to see if it did. I haven't gotten digest postings

Re: Mounting Slides

2004-09-16 Thread mike wilson
Hi, J Mason wrote: Any suggestions / tutorials for mounting slides at home? Best way to trim the frames? Sources for plastic slide mounts? Funny you should ask, Shel. I've just been mounting slides for the first time. Shot about 30 rolls of slide film in South Africa over the summer. The

AW: Use of Green Button (was Re: istDs - what a great camera!)

2004-09-16 Thread keller.schaefer
You are right ... but it SOUNDS the same ;-) Sven -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: John Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. September 2004 20:27 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: Use of Green Button (was Re: istDs - what a great camera!) keller.schaefer mused:

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Keith Whaley
Peter J. Alling wrote: Looks like it's Rob's point, especially since the late and in some quarters lamented MZ-D apparently had full K mount compatibility. What you're saying is, a digi camera body the size of the MZ-D had the room, and they did it, why not the ist-DS? I don't know how the MZ-D

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/9/04, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: I voice my opinions. If you have a problem with my points, argue the points. To say I just argue to argue isnt valid. I argue the things I feel strongly about, not to just get in debates. Excuse me but is the 5 minute argument or the

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Frantisek
I still do, but it was only a few years ago. I'm still getting used to wind up windows. Isn't technology great :-) mw No. The only problem I've ever had with sliding windows is when the mw moss gets too thick in the groove. Hm, what's a wind-up window? Best windows are of course the opening

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Frantisek
Thursday, September 16, 2004, 9:41:58 PM, Cotty wrote: C On 16/9/04, J. C. O'Connell, discombobulated, unleashed: I voice my opinions. If you have a problem with my points, argue the points. To say I just argue to argue isnt valid. I argue the things I feel strongly about, not to just get in

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Bob W
Hi, Hm, what's a wind-up window? Best windows are of course the opening kind ;-) (I mean the normal ones, err, the most common ones, err, or is it otherwise in your country g, the ones which open to the outside or inside completely) In World of Mike car windows have a metal lip on the top

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread mike wilson
Hi, Frantisek wrote: Hm, what's a wind-up window? Best windows are of course the opening kind ;-) (I mean the normal ones, err, the most common ones, err, or is it otherwise in your country g, the ones which open to the outside or inside completely) We are talking about cars. Electric, manual

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread mike wilson
Bob W wrote: Hi, Hm, what's a wind-up window? Best windows are of course the opening kind ;-) (I mean the normal ones, err, the most common ones, err, or is it otherwise in your country g, the ones which open to the outside or inside completely) In World of Mike car windows have a metal lip on

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Antonio
I love watching you guys kick the shit out of each other. Really entertaining. On 16/9/04 12:40 am, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You still don't get it. Pentax didn't change their lens mount. K and M lenses work just fine with the *istD. Nearly everyone on the list who owns an

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Antonio
So why are you seling off all your screw moung gear if it is so good? A. On 15/9/04 10:03 pm, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spotmatic wasn't AE, It is not simpler than the spot F for manual operation and not as simple as the ES/ESII for auto operation. Why are you comparing to

PAW: Action in Denali

2004-09-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html to see where I spent my last two weeks. Shot 18 rolls of Velvia/Provia 400F 1350 digital images with the * ist D. Mostly with a 600mm FA and a 300MM FA. Comments solicited. WARNING: This image is a strong statement of the

Re: PESO -- Miniature

2004-09-16 Thread ernreed2
And so do i.:-) It seems fitting,tight crop showing a small object in ones hands. Did you do any of the hands and object. Dave On other occasions I did. (Different year, different camera. Different miniatures, too!) ERN

RE: PESO: Rainbow Surfers - vertical shot

2004-09-16 Thread Jens Bladt
Great job, Cotty - I am glad that I could inspire you... I haven't been hiding this photograph - I have actually posted a messages about thi vertical shot. So, I humbly admit to being part of this project, as this photograph is originally captured by me on my Pentax *istD #5774808, yesterday

Re: RE: PESO: Rainbow Surfers - vertical shot

2004-09-16 Thread Cotty
On 16/9/04, Jens Bladt, discombobulated, unleashed: Great job, Cotty - I am glad that I could inspire you... I haven't been hiding this photograph - I have actually posted a messages about thi vertical shot. Glad you took it in good humour Jens. Thanx So, I humbly admit to being part of this

Re: D*MNIT!!!!! A bargain hunter misses out.

2004-09-16 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Graywolf wrote: While I agree with you, Kostas, about posting auctions. I think we can equate top posters and bottom posters to top feeders and bottom feeders (grin). I have never commented on top-posting and I have never tried to change the way people post I have found

Re: pdml digest mailing list problems

2004-09-16 Thread Rfsindg
Brian, I have the same problem here since ~Sunday. My digest subscription has disappeared - no more emails. I've re-subscribed 2X, but no acknowledgement or email. Tuesday, I subscribed to the direct list and got 150 messages. I had to unsubscribe! Now back at the archives... The only thing I

RE: D*MNIT!!!!! A bargain hunter misses out.

2004-09-16 Thread Frits Wuthrich
I am happy I got someone excited tonight! -Original Message- From: Kostas Kavoussanakis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 16 september 2004 23:12 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: D*MNIT! A bargain hunter misses out. On Thu, 16 Sep 2004, Graywolf wrote: While I agree with

Re: PAW: Action in Denali

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Wow! Great shot, Ken. I took one look and thought, Whoa, hope he shot that with the 600. At least it wasn't a hungry wolf. Looks like the bird is going to get the tender meat between those ribs. You have to print this one big, really big. Is it cropped? Paul On Sep 16, 2004, at 4:52 PM,

Re: [OT] Nikon bites with 12MPix D2X

2004-09-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sylwester wrote: SP EOS-1Ds has similar noise level to coming from the same SP era EOS-D60 or 10D despite having much bigger pixel pitch. I think they have the same pixel pitch. Yep. The 6-megapixel APS and 11 megapixel full-frame are very close indeed.

RE: PESO: Monkey Hug

2004-09-16 Thread Jens Bladt
Monkey or grand child? :-) Jens Jens Bladt mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hjem.get2net.dk/bladt -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sendt: 16. september 2004 15:49 Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Emne: Re: PESO: Monkey Hug Nice, tender moment. The flash is

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
An interesting rhetorical device, changing the point from the technical and or marketing reason to not include a feature to criticizing the form factor as not being able to contain it. A bush league debating trick which I'm not even going to answer. Simply put changing the subject doesn't

Re: PAW: Action in Denali

2004-09-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
If he'd shot it with a shorter lens the wolf probably wouldn't have been there, they are quite shy and usually very afraid of humans, (with good reason). It is a great shot by the way. Paul Stenquist wrote: Wow! Great shot, Ken. I took one look and thought, Whoa, hope he shot that with the

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Graywolf
reindeer meat? Humm...? Me thinks you have your tribal lore mixed. mike wilson wrote: Hi, Frantisek wrote: Hm, what's a wind-up window? Best windows are of course the opening kind ;-) (I mean the normal ones, err, the most common ones, err, or is it otherwise in your country g, the ones which open

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Antonio
WTF? Peter, you OK over there? Sounds like you are cracking up! LOL A. On 17/9/04 12:31 am, Peter J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interesting rhetorical device, changing the point from the technical and or marketing reason to not include a feature to criticizing the form factor as

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Graywolf
All this reminds me of that electic car they invented with a 500 mile range. The car was only $700. However the 500 mile long extension cord, a required option, was $25000. -- mike wilson wrote: Bob W wrote: Hi, Hm, what's a wind-up window? Best windows are of course the opening kind ;-) (I

Re: PAW: Action in Denali

2004-09-16 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:52:35 -0400, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html to see where I spent my last two weeks. Shot 18 rolls of Velvia/Provia 400F 1350 digital images with the * ist D. Mostly with a 600mm FA and a

UPDATE-- Boy, I Sure Hope I Can Fix Her!

2004-09-16 Thread Don Sanderson
About 45 minutes spent fixing 2 broken traces on the flex-pc board above the prism and good as new! Not 100% mint, but I'd say about 99%. Even the mirror foam is still in great shape! Ohhh, Happy Happy Joy Joy, Happy Happy Joy Joy! If any of you ever has an ME, ME Super, MG, etc, just go

Re: PAW: Action in Denali

2004-09-16 Thread Christian
Kenneth Waller wrote on 9/16/2004, 4:52 PM: Check out http://mypeoplepc.com/members/kwaller/offwallphoto/id2.html to see where I spent my last two weeks. I hate you. Mostly with a 600mm FA and a 300MM FA. I hate you even more. WARNING: This image is a strong statement of the

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Keith Whaley
Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 16, 2004, at 7:52 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: You can still buy current lenses from Pentax with fully functional aperture rings, I'd like to be able to utilize the aperture ring control on the current cameras too. This I don't get, so enlighten me. Why do you need to

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Most of the people who think it's a problem haven't tried it. Or they tried it once and decided it wasn't an optimum solution. Use it for two weeks, and it's second nature. But the non-believers will never be convinced. Sometimes I think that some people can't be content unless they have

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Frantisek
Thursday, September 16, 2004, 10:22:23 PM, Bob wrote: BW Hi, Hm, what's a wind-up window? Best windows are of course the opening kind ;-) (I mean the normal ones, err, the most common ones, err, or is it otherwise in your country g, the ones which open to the outside or inside completely)

Re: PAW: Action in Denali

2004-09-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Peter, thanks for looking commenting. You're correct about the lens comment. I've shot enough animal dots with less lens to really appreciate the 600mm. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Peter J. Alling Subject: Re: PAW: Action in Denali If he'd shot it with a shorter lens the

Re: Use of Green Button (was Re: istDs - what a great camera!)

2004-09-16 Thread Caveman
You put it the wrong way. It should read: It's too bad BW is pretty much worthless for digital. ;-) ;-) Shel Belinkoff wrote: While making coffee this morning I was thinking that it's too bad digital is pretty much worthless for BW.

Re: Use of Green Button (was Re: istDs - what a great camera!)

2004-09-16 Thread Caveman
You put it the wrong way. It should read: It's too bad BW is pretty much withless for digital. ;-) ;-) Shel Belinkoff wrote: While making coffee this morning I was thinking that it's too bad digital is pretty much worthless for BW.

Re: PAW: Action in Denali

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Please bring the print to our next Detroit PDML meeting. I'd love to see it. Paul On Sep 16, 2004, at 8:35 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Paul, Thanks for looking commenting. This was taken from a height of about a couple of hundred feet. I actually sat for a while, with the wolf in the far

Re: PAW: Action in Denali

2004-09-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Frank, thanks for taking the time to look and comment. There's only so much animal carcass one can film, the Magpies were sort of comic relief. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: frank theriault Subject: Re: PAW: Action in Denali On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 16:52:35 -0400, Kenneth

Re: PAW: Action in Denali

2004-09-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
Yeah but I mostly love my 600mm - except for the weight. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: PAW: Action in Denali Kenneth Waller wrote on 9/16/2004, 4:52 PM: Check out

RE: PESO - FireShow

2004-09-16 Thread Don Sanderson
That's a great shot! Can you tell us a bit about it? Don -Original Message- From: Frantisek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 7:36 PM To: PDML Subject: PESO - FireShow No time at my hands for PAWs, so PESO now: http://fotof.wz.cz/paw All

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Frantisek
PS This I don't get, so enlighten me. Why do you need to turn the aperture PS ring if you can select the aperture with the cameras ap dial? What do PS you gain by turning the ring? PS Paul Stepping in into this thread, my preference is to be able to have tactile feedback of all my camera

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread John Forbes
I do take your point that the old glass is very good glass, but there is a perfectly adequate method of using such lenses with the green button. They have not been rendered obsolete, as some of the wilder-eyed posters are implying. For various reasons, Pentax now designs cameras that

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
does the *istD support autobracketing in any modes with any lenses? I ask because with the narrower latitude and free film of digital capture it seems to me that autobracketing AE would be ideal. There is no way this could be done with the green button kludge with K/M but I am wondering if istD

Re: PESO - FireShow

2004-09-16 Thread Kenneth Waller
An A for creativity originality. Now what is it? I'm guessing its a grinder on some welded joints. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: PDML [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:35 PM Subject: PESO - FireShow No time at my

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
You can still check the DOF by stopping down, which to me, is better than looking at the ap ring. But that's just me. If you use an A lens on the *istD, you still get your DOF scale. Nothing different there than you would get if you used it on an LX. Don't get me wrong. I'm basically a

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Peter Loveday
does the *istD support autobracketing in any modes with any lenses? I ask because with the narrower latitude and free film of digital capture it seems to me that autobracketing AE would be ideal. There is no way this could be done with the green button kludge with K/M but I am wondering if istD

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Caveman
Did you mention that they don't have AF, IS whatever ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've steered people to Pentax who are looking for a mid-priced DSLR. I simply tell them that they can find plenty of used lenses that are relatively inexpensive. That is a convincing argument for the *istD.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread John Forbes
It supports bracketing even with K/M lenses. John On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:48:10 -0400, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: does the *istD support autobracketing in any modes with any lenses? I ask because with the narrower latitude and free film of digital capture it seems to me that

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, the *ist D offers auto bracketing with A and newer lenses in 1/3 or 1/2 stop increments. However, I've found I can pretty much nail exposures with this camera so I rarely use it. I do usually shoot with +1/2 stop of exposure compensation. And of course PhotoShop CS RAW converter gives you

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Peter Loveday
The thing that I find inconvenient about the green-button-kludge (hereafter referred to as GBK :) is not so much that I have any trouble with it, but it makes it far more difficult to let anyone else take a shot. For example, if we're out somewhere, my wife will sometimes want to take a shot

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
I thought someone said that after green button the shutter speed remains fixed until pressed again? No? JCO -Original Message- From: Peter Loveday [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 8:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: istDs - what a great camera! does

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Thanks Peter. I didn't know auto bracketing worked with K and M lenses. But I never tried it. As I mentioned in a previous post, it's not hard to nail exposures with the *istD, and I seldom use auto bracketing. But I will probably use it more often since it works with the old glass. Paul On Sep

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Peter Loveday
I thought someone said that after green button the shutter speed remains fixed until pressed again? No? Well, yes, in that the 'base' shutter speed remains fixed (unless you change it manually, or press green) but bracketing still adjusts relative to this base. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter

Re: istDs - bouquet

2004-09-16 Thread Mat Maessen
With the strobes, it wouldn't make a darned bit of difference. They tend to fire a bit faster than the camera shakes. :-) On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 08:11:40 +0800, Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark Fair point about the 1/2 - 1/30. I use B and black velvet (to block out all extraneous

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread John Forbes
It does remain fixed, except for auto-bracketing. In a sense it is still fixed then. The camera just takes a couple of shots at lower and higher speeds than the fixed speed. It's quite impressive. John On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 20:59:11 -0400, J. C. O'Connell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Peter Loveday
It seems to me they could allow another mode also; when in 'P', it could stop the lens down when you press shutter (which it has to anyway) and take an instantaneous reading at that point. It may increase shutter-lag a little, but I expect the metering is quick compared to the mechanical

Re: istDs - bouquet

2004-09-16 Thread Mark Roberts
Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Mark Fair point about the 1/2 - 1/30. I use B and black velvet (to block out all extraneous light) when shooting still lives with strobes 25 ISO film. Would there be any point in using this technique with digital? I don't see why not. Got any shots to show

Re: Use of Green Button (was Re: istDs - what a great camera!)

2004-09-16 Thread Peter Loveday
Hmm, in relation also with another thread, if Nikon did actually produce digital backs for the F6, as someone said was rumoured, they could produce separate BW and Colour ones. So long as they were fairly easy to change, that could be pretty nice... Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday

Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera

2004-09-16 Thread Steve Larson
Hehe, I knew it would happen! F6 looks like a great camera, did you see the viewfinder coverage, 100% I also knew the APS sized sensor in 35mm was just temporary, hehe. APS sized sensors are for APS cameras I say! Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From:

Re: Use of Green Button (was Re: istDs - what a great camera!)

2004-09-16 Thread Steve Larson
and the old 15mm lens Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Shel Belinkoff wrote: While making coffee this morning I was thinking that it's too bad digital is pretty much worthless for BW.

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, but apparently if you select auto bracketing, it will shoot three shots, varying the shutter speed by 1/2 spot. On Sep 16, 2004, at 8:59 PM, J. C. O'Connell wrote: I thought someone said that after green button the shutter speed remains fixed until pressed again? No? JCO -Original

Back home, after Ivan.

2004-09-16 Thread Cesar Matamoros II
Well, Ivan has come and gone for me. I spent it at the folks. We lost power about 12:20 a.m. They are still without power. Lost no shingles and only one piece of siding. All is well - just a lot of limbs to clean up and the neighbor's fence went down. My house - all is great! No shingles

Film

2004-09-16 Thread Graywolf
Seems like this guy, T. R. Sanford, a frequent poster on the forum at graflex.org, has a pretty good handle on what is happening with the film business. http://graflex.org/helpboard/viewtopic.php?topic=2850forum=47 If I understand him correctly, what he is saying is that Kodak, Agfa, Ilford,

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Sep 2004 at 20:28, John C. O'Connell wrote: For the price of what a *istD costs I am not going to buy into the argument that full K/M support would have driven up the cost in any signifigant way because K/M support was provided on many budget cameras, pentax made and third parties.

Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Uh, the F6 doesn't have a sensor, it's a film camera. I'll be surprised if they sell enough of them to cover the cost of the advertising, yet alone the cost of development. I don't think you'll see another high end film camera from Canon. On Sep 16, 2004, at 9:10 PM, Steve Larson wrote: Hehe,

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
On Sep 16, 2004, at 9:16 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: I beg to differ, the only way that I can produce very consistent results WRT exposure is to set the aperture from the lens, setting from the body appears to be accurate but the actual aperture isn't always stopped down by the prescribed amount.

Re: Use of Green Button (was Re: istDs - what a great camera!)

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Why is it worthless for the old 15mm lens? It should be a great *istD lens, although the field of view won't be as wide. paul On Sep 16, 2004, at 9:19 PM, Steve Larson wrote: and the old 15mm lens Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California Shel Belinkoff wrote: While making coffee this morning I was

Re: Back home, after Ivan.

2004-09-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good to hear you're well. Congratulations. Paul On Sep 16, 2004, at 9:14 PM, Cesar Matamoros II wrote: Well, Ivan has come and gone for me. I spent it at the folks. We lost power about 12:20 a.m. They are still without power. Lost no shingles and only one piece of siding. All is well - just a

Re: Back home, after Ivan.

2004-09-16 Thread Graywolf
Ya! -- Cesar Matamoros II wrote: Well, Ivan has come and gone for me. I spent it at the folks. We lost power about 12:20 a.m. They are still without power. Lost no shingles and only one piece of siding. All is well - just a lot of limbs to clean up and the neighbor's fence went down. My house

Leica Goes Digital

2004-09-16 Thread Shel Belinkoff
For those interested, see story at BJP: http://db.riskwaters.com/public/showPage.html?page=190734 Read carefully what it says about the digital solution for the M system. It sounds like this will not be a digital back to fit existing M cameras, but a digital body to accept M lenses. Shel

Re: Film is dead, no one will bring out a new 35mm film camera

2004-09-16 Thread Steve Larson
I know, I was talking about Canon's decision. Sorry, should have clarified it better. Steve Larson Redondo Beach, California - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 6:31 PM Subject: Re: Film is dead, no one

RE: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread J. C. O'Connell
The decision as to whether to add a $10.00 part to a $1500 retail camera is always the same, does it add value to the product to the customer? I honestly believe that would have added tremendous value to a Lot of their customers (why buy a pentax DSLR if it wasn't already for owning a lot of their

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Sep 2004 at 21:27, Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, but apparently if you select auto bracketing, it will shoot three shots, varying the shutter speed by 1/2 spot. On 16 Sep 2004 at 21:27, Paul Stenquist wrote: Yes, but apparently if you select auto bracketing, it will shoot three shots,

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Sep 2004 at 21:34, Paul Stenquist wrote: Perhaps you're doing something wrong? My shots with A and FA lenses are as accurate in terms of exposure as are my shots with M and K lenses, where I set aperture on the lens. Even when you set aperture on the lens, you're relying on a

Re: PAW: Action in Denali

2004-09-16 Thread Graywolf
This one has been known to attack humans (grin). It has also been known to photograph humans feeding. -- Kenneth Waller wrote: Wolves have gotten a bad rap as being aggressive around humans. I have read in several places that there has never been a documented case of a healthy wolf attacking a

Re: Leica Goes Digital

2004-09-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Sep 2004 at 7:47, Shel Belinkoff wrote: For those interested, see story at BJP: http://db.riskwaters.com/public/showPage.html?page=190734 Read carefully what it says about the digital solution for the M system. It sounds like this will not be a digital back to fit existing M

Re: PESO - FireShow

2004-09-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
That's another great photograph, I hate you. Frantisek wrote: No time at my hands for PAWs, so PESO now: http://fotof.wz.cz/paw All comments welcome! fra -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
Yes your perfectly right your post is rubbish, and a not to the point. The moderator would kick you out of the debate. John Forbes wrote: What rubbish. How long do you want Pentax to keep supporting a product which is now almost 30 years old? There IS a cost to it, and for most people, there

Re: istDs - what a great camera!

2004-09-16 Thread Peter J. Alling
Seems that the *ist-Ds will work like the zx-10, well sort of... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 16, 2004, at 7:52 PM, Rob Studdert wrote: You can still buy current lenses from Pentax with fully functional aperture rings, I'd like to be able to utilize the aperture ring control on the

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