Re: PESO - Beauty

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
Thanks, ann, lower left made it for me too. :-) When I went to Disneyland last year, I did something I hadn't done before in all my previous trips. I watched the parade from beginning to end, I watched their nightly show from beginning to end, and I caught as many live shows as I could.

Re: PESO:Juice Jugs

2007-10-06 Thread Cotty
On 05/10/07, Walter Hamler, discombobulated, unleashed: Has she seen that? ;-) Yep, right after I shot it. Her reply was, you need to be closer to the oranges to make them bigger! ;-) Walt Have you ever seen the original 'The Italian Job'? Right now I've got this vision of you in my head

Panoramas anyone?

2007-10-06 Thread Sandy Harris
Gigapan (http://gigapan.org/) are a Carnegie-Mellon U and NASA spinoff working on two main thngs: a robotic device that manages panorama-shooting with more-or-less any digital camera open source software for creating and displaying panoramas They have just announced

PESO: Sundew

2007-10-06 Thread Derby Chang
Oh boy, PC power supply self destructed on Thursday night. Acrid smell in the room took me right back to my engineering days working on inverters for implantable defibrilllators. Just managed to resurrect the PC this evening. So, a PESO.

Re: GESO -- An enablement!

2007-10-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like blue as well. I see that it could be more saturated and contrasty, but I like it as shown. Almost a pastel. Very nice. Paul On Oct 5, 2007, at 11:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/4/2007 2:02:10 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Really three

PESO:Juice Jugs

2007-10-06 Thread Walter Hamler
Have you ever seen the original 'The Italian Job'? Right now I've got this vision of you in my head and it's the character played by Benny Hill called Professor Peach. No, and I am afraid to search it out to look after your comments:-) Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO - Beauty

2007-10-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
Grace is going to be very pleased! I dragged this one to the desktop, and I'm going to make her a small print. Grace, of course, is frequently Belle. Nice shot. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6435180 On Oct 5, 2007, at 11:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken October, 2006 (you can

Re: Cannon Balls, Canon Balls - Errol Morris Photo Part II

2007-10-06 Thread Norm Baugher
Will do, I want to see what the look for the small things proof is... Cheers, Norm Bob Sullivan wrote: Norm, Keep us posted on part III. Regards, Bob S. On 10/5/07, Norm Baugher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Part two of the saga... http://morris.blogs.nytimes.com/?themc=th Norm --

Re: Off list - Sigma 14 mm vs Tamron 14 mm

2007-10-06 Thread Amita Guha
Ugh, I didn't mean that the way it sounded. Anyway, he loves the lens and I think it's coming with us to Spain! Amita On 9/29/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29/09/07, Amita Guha, discombobulated, unleashed: Cotty sold my husband one of these. As I recall, it's sharp but very flare-y.

PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
All comments welcome. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=238 K10D, DA 16~45, 100 ISO Jack Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!

Re: PESO - Beauty

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 5:06:30 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Grace is going to be very pleased! I dragged this one to the desktop, and I'm going to make her a small print. Grace, of course, is frequently Belle. Nice shot.

PESO: Country Porch

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
All comments gladly received. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=239 K10D, FA 28~80 f/2.8, 100 ISO Jack Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows.

Re: PESO: Country Porch

2007-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 6, 2007, at 6:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=239 K10D, FA 28~80 f/2.8, 100 ISO Hmm. This one doesn't do much for me. The rendering seems a little bright and harsh. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Beauty

2007-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken October, 2006 (you can see the pumpkins in the background). ... http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/beauty.htm Fantastic! It has a wonderful, soaring complexity and a painterly quality to it that are all at once focused by

Re: K10D date problems?

2007-10-06 Thread Pedro Oliveira
Thanks, Godfrey, I tried that already (3 days) and did not work. I'll try 1 or 2 weeks without the battery and see what happens. Pedro Oliveira Em Oct 5, 2007, às 12:37 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi escreveu: Try taking the battery out and leaving it sit like that for two or three days. It takes the

Re: PESO: Sundew

2007-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 6, 2007, at 4:30 AM, Derby Chang wrote: http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/07_10/07_10_sundew/01.htm I love simple compositions like this, Derby, but this one just doesn't hold my eye. There's not quite enough to make it work, imo: I have to consciously push myself to stop asking

Re: K10D date problems?

2007-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Ach, it does sound like a fault. Oh well, a trip to service for it... Godfrey On Oct 6, 2007, at 7:29 AM, Pedro Oliveira wrote: Thanks, Godfrey, I tried that already (3 days) and did not work. I'll try 1 or 2 weeks without the battery and see what happens. Pedro Oliveira Em Oct 5, 2007,

Re: PESO: Country Porch

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
It's the mood/mind set of the owners that intrigues me. Thanks for commenting. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Oct 6, 2007, at 6:44 AM, Jack Davis wrote: http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=239 K10D, FA 28~80 f/2.8, 100 ISO Hmm. This one doesn't do

Re: PESO - Beauty

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 7:34:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Taken October, 2006 (you can see the pumpkins in the background). ... http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/beauty.htm Fantastic! It has

Re: PESO: Country Porch

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 6:47:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All comments gladly received. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=239 K10D, FA 28~80 f/2.8, 100 ISO Jack = I see houses like that and wonder how I can shoot them so they

Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 6:25:02 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All comments welcome. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=238 K10D, DA 16~45, 100 ISO Jack = I have the same reaction to this one as the country porch. Not quite there.

Re: PESO: Sundew

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 4:33:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh boy, PC power supply self destructed on Thursday night. Acrid smell in the room took me right back to my engineering days working on inverters for implantable defibrilllators. Just managed to

oct pug gallery

2007-10-06 Thread 272yb
Is the Oct gallery up yet and is it still linked at Mark Roberts web page ?..Thanks Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: oct pug gallery

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
It seems that the October PUG still hasn't been posted. Patience is a virtue... [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the Oct gallery up yet and is it still linked at Mark Roberts web page ?..Thanks Joe -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Country Porch

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Marnie. I have some other views to play with and may try it again. ;) Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/6/2007 6:47:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All comments gladly received.

Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
No, certainly not too much feedback. I'm only slightly lukewarm about this one myself. I do, however, like the contrast afforded by the shading. My only negative is the fact that the stump is not a natural fall, but shows the obvious use of a chain saw. Also, the oat shafts only hint at the

The sincerest form of Flattery? was: [Re: oct pug gallery]

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Now this is interesting. While looking for inspiration, or maybe anti-inspiration I discovered the Pentax Challenge at DP review, sort of an Ad Hoc PUG for non PDML members. Guess what the theme for October is? http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=25031906 [EMAIL

PESO: Country Porch II

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Took a few shots from my drive-by position. Shot a few as I slowly moved along changing the perspective. I didn't notice the gentlemen on the porch until I had taken 2 or 3. He wanted to know if he could help me with something to which I replied,I like your friendly looking house..I hope you

OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Rebekah
Just found this interesting, what do you guys think? http://www.thestate.com/local/story/190126.html rg2 -- the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I don't think the plantation or it's parent organization has a leg to stand on, if they allow photography at all. They are however likely to have deeper pockets than the photographer, which is probably the whole point to the exercise. Rebekah wrote: Just found this interesting, what do you

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I actually found the image in question. If the judge even lets this go one day in court, he should be impeached, he doesn't deserve to be on the bench deciding copyright cases. P. J. Alling wrote: I don't think the plantation or it's parent organization has a leg to stand on, if they allow

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Mr Ham had no right to do what he did. Private property rights should always be respected especially when privacy is to be compromised by being held up to the world to see. Privacy and security are too closely related these days. That being said, I'm somewhat ambivalent about being restricted from

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Sorry Jack you can't copyright a work of nature. They can go after him for trespass. Don't help the idiots any more than is necessary. Jack Davis wrote: Mr Ham had no right to do what he did. Private property rights should always be respected especially when privacy is to be compromised by

PESO: Translucent Vulture

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
This is just another shot of a California Turkey Vulture with the sun lighting up its feathers. I only slightly lightened the shadows and kind of prefer this version for a couple reasons. Pretty heavily cropped. Same equipment. This shot isn't one for which I have glorious plans..just is of

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
In this case, the trespass is the problem..what else? Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry Jack you can't copyright a work of nature. They can go after him for trespass. Don't help the idiots any more than is necessary. Jack Davis wrote: Mr Ham had no right to do what he

Probably just a typo.....

2007-10-06 Thread Anthony Farr
As I was poking through the darker recesses of my computer, I found this intriguing tidbit tucked away inside Picasa: http://picasaweb.google.com/FarrAnthony/FYI/photo#5118286083288949490 or http://tinyurl.com/2hcluf Look about a third the way down the list. But perhaps it signifies nothing.

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Rebekah
yeah, that's what I thought - they could get him for trespassing, but I don't think he was doing anything illegal by taking a photograph. What I don't understand is how you can place a legally binding contract forbidding photographs of your land to be sold...do you have to put up signs or

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Yes, but they're suing him for copyright infringement. That's the problem they're idiots, and if they can manage to get a court ot go along with them in the interests of justice then it hurts us all. The case as it stands should be thrown out and the proper legal action taken. That is unless

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread graywolf
Well, as to the legality, one does not have the right to sell images of someone else's clearly identifiable property without their permission. One does have the right to take the photos, without violating any laws of trespass, it is selling the images that is questionable. One would assume

Re: PESO: Translucent Vulture

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
It's a nice shot. But it's still a turkey vulture. Jack Davis wrote: This is just another shot of a California Turkey Vulture with the sun lighting up its feathers. I only slightly lightened the shadows and kind of prefer this version for a couple reasons. Pretty heavily cropped. Same

Re: Probably just a typo.....

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
The MZ-D aka KR-52 has for marketing reasons been renamed the K1D, at least as far as I can tell. I don't think Pentax would let Google know the specifications of a new camera ahead of time and keep that same information from Adobe. (The odds are that a RAW file from a MZ-D will never be seen

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I believe you're wrong on that. You might be able to trademark the image of something. Which will limit the use of images of it in some ways,In fact the Colt Firearms Co. has trademarked the Blue Dome of their former building, and no one else is allowed to use it in connection with gun

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Copyright protected (against commercial image use) sights have been in existence for quite awhile. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Ham pays, especially due to the trespass issue. Without taking it any further, if it is the sight I am guessing it is, it is one which is much used for commercial

Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
As presented, it does little for me. However, a rather severe crop starts to bring it alive ... It would be a candidate to go back and shoot again. I'll send you an idea of what I see... Godfrey On Oct 6, 2007, at 9:19 AM, Jack Davis wrote: No, certainly not too much feedback. I'm only

Re: PESO:Juice Jugs

2007-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 6, 2007, at 4:57 AM, Walter Hamler wrote: Have you ever seen the original 'The Italian Job'? Right now I've got this vision of you in my head and it's the character played by Benny Hill called Professor Peach. No, and I am afraid to search it out to look after your comments

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
In some (or maybe many) cases the scenes are copyright protected company logos and I suppose that could be at play.(?) I've understood for some time that The Lone Cypress, on the Monterey peninsula's 17 Mile Drive, is one such site. Sometime in the late 90's I shot the scene, but it's not on my

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
A fairly large number of commercial buildings are copyrighted in such ways. You can photograph them legally, but you can't sell the images without a property release. That may well be the case here, but it sounds like the Plaintiffs did not have their copyright actually filed. -Adam P. J.

re: Probably just a typo.....

2007-10-06 Thread Roman Melihhov
K1, well rumors are... Based on which I went for K100D Super in anticipation of whatever would be K1... Just my 2¢. -- new photos once and again... roman.blakout.net http://roman.blakout.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Adam Maas wrote: A fairly large number of commercial buildings are copyrighted in such ways. You can photograph them legally, but you can't sell the images without a property release. IIRC, you can't sell the images for commercial use without a release but you can sell them as fine art

Re: PESO: Translucent Vulture

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Nice shot is all I care about. It, also, has my permission to remain a Turkey Vulture. Thanks, Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a nice shot. But it's still a turkey vulture. Jack Davis wrote: This is just another shot of a California Turkey Vulture with the sun

PESO - Napa Quilt

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
I showed this photo last year. Most liked it. Some liked it better in BW. Taken in Napa on a sans Shel trip. I started playing with it a few days after showing it. For some reason it made me think of a quilt. I came back to it today and finished it up. Not quite, quite what I want but

Re: The sincerest form of Flattery? was: [Re: oct pug gallery]

2007-10-06 Thread ann sanfedele
P. J. Alling wrote: Now this is interesting. While looking for inspiration, or maybe anti-inspiration I discovered the Pentax Challenge at DP review, sort of an Ad Hoc PUG for non PDML members. Guess what the theme for October is?

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Roberts wrote: Adam Maas wrote: A fairly large number of commercial buildings are copyrighted in such ways. You can photograph them legally, but you can't sell the images without a property release. IIRC, you can't sell the images for commercial use without a release but you can

Re: PESO - Evening at the Lake

2007-10-06 Thread Derby Chang
Bruce Dayton wrote: One of my older shots. Pentax PZ-1p, F 17-28/3.4-4.5 Fisheye http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0048-21.htm Gorgeous colour. And an example of rules that are made to be broken. Horizon line is just about through the centre. But the should wouldn't work as well if it

PESO - Swimming Lesson Play Time

2007-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
At the end of the swimming lessons, the kids get to play a bit in the water. Both of his teachers were playing with him in this one. Pentax PZ-1p, FA* 200/2.8 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0194-06.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Emotionally Charged Portraits

2007-10-06 Thread Derby Chang
David Savage wrote: Warning: This is not a 100% smut free site (it's pretty tame smut though :-), but the main images are quite interesting. http://www.spynet.ru/2007/09/13/amerikansikie-soldaty-posle-vojjny-v.html Anybody who starts a political slanging match is a Nazi (I hear by declare

PESO - Little Angel

2007-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
My youngest daughter a few years ago. Pentax PZ-1p, FA* 85/1.4 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0230-17a.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow

Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Godfrey. As you now know, I received your re-crop idea and am here providing the link to another version of the scene, the same one I provided in response to your 'crop' email. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=242 Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: PESO - Swimming Lesson Play Time

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Good one for the family album! Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the end of the swimming lessons, the kids get to play a bit in the water. Both of his teachers were playing with him in this one. Pentax PZ-1p, FA* 200/2.8 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0194-06.htm --

Re: PESO - Yosemite Color

2007-10-06 Thread Derby Chang
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/3/2007 1:56:02 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is really pretty good! I have never been able to capture fall colors involving a larger number of trees - only small isolation stuff. This is better than anything I

Re: PESO - Little Angel

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Like it very much. She is seriously cute! Jack --- Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My youngest daughter a few years ago. Pentax PZ-1p, FA* 85/1.4 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0230-17a.htm -- Bruce -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread graywolf
It is not a copyright or trademark issue. It is a property rights issue. There is nothing stopping you from taking a photo of my Blazer, but since with its unique pattern of red primer, or a visible license plate it is clearly my particular car, you can not sell photos of it without my

Re: PESO: Sundew

2007-10-06 Thread Derby Chang
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 6, 2007, at 4:30 AM, Derby Chang wrote: http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc/07_10/07_10_sundew/01.htm I love simple compositions like this, Derby, but this one just doesn't hold my eye. There's not quite enough to make it work, imo: I have to

Re: PESO: Country Porch

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Marnie, I'm offering this crop in response to your much appreciated comments. Probably my final offering. Thanks. Jack :) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=243 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/6/2007 6:47:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
This is a very grey area. If your Blazer is parked in a public area when the picture was taken, you have no standing to sue. If it was on private property, things get murky (unless the photographer was also on the same private property, at which point the question becomes one of straight

PESO: Not Toe Food

2007-10-06 Thread Walter Hamler
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/NotToeFood.jpg This was the lonely Sandpiper that felt right at home yesterday. Walt -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: PESO: Country Porch

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 2:45:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, I'm offering this crop in response to your much appreciated comments. Probably my final offering. Thanks. Jack :) http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=243 = Better.

Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 2:13:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks, Godfrey. As you now know, I received your re-crop idea and am here providing the link to another version of the scene, the same one I provided in response to your 'crop' email.

Re: PESO: Not Toe Food

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 3:03:07 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/NotToeFood.jpg This was the lonely Sandpiper that felt right at home yesterday. Walt === Hehehe. I rather like that. Cute little bird, too.

Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Marnie. As I told Godfrey off list, this is my personal choice. The one I posted earlier was my asking a question of the group. Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/6/2007 2:13:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks, Godfrey. As you now

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
You entirely miss the point. You cannot claim copyright on something you hold no copyright to. If he pays it will be a miscarriage of justice and in the end all photographers will pay and pay dearly. Jack Davis wrote: Copyright protected (against commercial image use) sights have been in

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
These scenes can be trademarked, not copyrighted a different thing all together. Jack Davis wrote: In some (or maybe many) cases the scenes are copyright protected company logos and I suppose that could be at play.(?) I've understood for some time that The Lone Cypress, on the Monterey

Re: PESO: Country Porch

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, I did, however, sort of like the full house version that included the rose bush and mail box. The guy in the camo pants didn't add much. ;) Jack --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 10/6/2007 2:45:47 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Marnie, I'm

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
NO NO. You are separating points and misapplying the logic. As I said below Peter, and with all due respect, I think I've taken this as far as I care to. Jack --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You entirely miss the point. You cannot claim copyright on something you hold no copyright

Re: PESO: Not Toe Food

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Appears he is looking hungrily at said toes. Cute shot and it gives me another descriptive reference for tofu. gag Jack --- Walter Hamler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v699/newtmaker/NotToeFood.jpg This was the lonely Sandpiper that felt right at home yesterday.

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread Adam Maas
Tnat depends. Anything that's designed can be copyrighted(Buildings, gardens, etc), but if it's essentially naturally occuring it can only be trademarked. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: These scenes can be trademarked, not copyrighted a different thing all together. Jack Davis wrote: In

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
This just so completely confuses copyright and trademark infringement with a bit of the we can control everything cant the Dixie Plantation has for the basis of their suit that it's just scary. It seems we photographers are already paying for this. graywolf wrote: Well, as to the legality,

PESO: Hay Ride

2007-10-06 Thread Paul Stenquist
On a hayride at the pumpkin farm today with some friends. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6501260 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6501261 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the

PESO 2007 - 41c - GDG

2007-10-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Meandering through some older work, I found this fairly classical study and thought it was worth posting ... :-) http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41c.htm Comments and critique always appreciated. enjoy Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Maybe but you are using logic starting from incorrect assumptions, I am stating law, two different things. A work of nature cannot be copyrighted period. The photograph in question is of a group of 250+ year old oak trees. They stopped being a work of man a long time ago, if they ever were. No

Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Brian Walters
Hi Jack You've pretty much summed up my feelings about the image. I love the colour of the grasses and the texture of the stump but the obvious saw cuts detract from it. The more severe crop of the second attempt is much better. Cheers Brian ++ Brian

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
Sure and I'm not allowed to make a copy of your building, without paying royalties, but photographing your building is not making a copy of it. More importantly the image in question appears to be of entirely natural origin. Unless someone can prove the road was laid out by a surveyor and not

Re: PESO 2007 - 41c - GDG

2007-10-06 Thread Brian Walters
The close cropping makes it for me. The only quibble is that I find the sapling in the background just above the broken spoke just slightly distracting. It does, however, give continuity to that spoke and I'm not entirely sure whether it improves or detracts from the image. A minor issue

Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Brian! Me too. Jack --- Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Jack You've pretty much summed up my feelings about the image. I love the colour of the grasses and the texture of the stump but the obvious saw cuts detract from it. The more severe crop of the second attempt is

Re: PESO: Hay Ride

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Paul, First shot has a couple problems (background post) and, of course, some movement blur. The blur, however, can be a part of the message when it comes to children. Grace looks extra cute in a pony tail. I happily remember the time when my daughters reached an age where such joyful events would

Re: PESO 2007 - 41c - GDG

2007-10-06 Thread Jack Davis
Classical is often used in place of Cliche. Debris in back of the wheel detracts. Texture does suit the image. Jack --- Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Meandering through some older work, I found this fairly classical study and thought it was worth posting ... :-)

Re: Country Porch

2007-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
While nicely exposed focused, this one doesn't do anything for me. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Country Porch All comments gladly received. http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=239

Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, the oats are set off from the stump nicely, but the stump just doesn't seem like it fits. So doesn't quite do it for me. -- Bruce Saturday, October 6, 2007, 6:24:49 AM, you wrote: JD All comments welcome. JD http://photolightimages.com/aspupload/detail.asp?ID=238 JD K10D, DA 16~45,

Re: PESO: Country Porch

2007-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Light is the big issue here for me. It is very bright and harsh. The actual porch looks to have some very interesting things to look at but, you'd need to improve the light to get a really good shot. -- Bruce Saturday, October 6, 2007, 6:44:02 AM, you wrote: JD All comments gladly received.

Re: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
Nice subject light but I think the composition would be improved by doing a vertical crop from the top down to the top most part of the stump on the LH side. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Wild Oats

Re: PESO: Hay Ride

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 3:58:41 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On a hayride at the pumpkin farm today with some friends. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6501260 http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6501261 == They both seem blurry and that

Re: PESO: Sundew

2007-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Pretty interesting as an abstract. The all green is kind of cool. I wish there was a tiny bit more DOF to show up the stem coming from the lower left corner. Overall, I like it. -- Bruce Saturday, October 6, 2007, 4:30:18 AM, you wrote: DC Oh boy, DC PC power supply self destructed on

Re: PESO 2007 - 41c - GDG

2007-10-06 Thread Kenneth Waller
Very nice. Reminds me of one I've seen here before. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO 2007 - 41c - GDG Meandering through some older work, I found this fairly classical study and thought it was

Re: OT: Photographer Being Sued

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
You're right it isn't a copyright or trademark issue, it is a property rights/trespass issue, however the lawyers for the Plantation decided to sue the photographer for copyright infringement, for which they clearly have no standing. Since you haven't seen the pictures I'll keep this simple,

Re: PESO: Country Porch II

2007-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
I like the angle and composition of the first shot better. -- Bruce Saturday, October 6, 2007, 9:52:49 AM, you wrote: JD Took a few shots from my drive-by position. Shot a few as I slowly JD moved along changing the perspective. JD I didn't notice the gentlemen on the porch until I had

Re: PESO: Translucent Vulture

2007-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
There is something to be seen in the feathers that are lit up, but I'd still like to see the head clearly. I suspect you need some pretty serious equipment to really do it justice. -- Bruce Saturday, October 6, 2007, 11:14:36 AM, you wrote: JD This is just another shot of a California Turkey

Re: PESO 2007 - 41c - GDG

2007-10-06 Thread P. J. Alling
I thought it was one Godfry posted before. Kenneth Waller wrote: Very nice. Reminds me of one I've seen here before. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO 2007 - 41c - GDG Meandering through

Re: PESO 2007 - 41c - GDG

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 3:59:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Meandering through some older work, I found this fairly classical study and thought it was worth posting ... :-) http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/41c.htm Comments and critique always

Re: PESO - Little Angel

2007-10-06 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/6/2007 1:52:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My youngest daughter a few years ago. Pentax PZ-1p, FA* 85/1.4 http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/0230-17a.htm -- Bruce Looks like she's always been seriously cute. :-) Nice shot, has a

Re: PESO: Wild Oats

2007-10-06 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, that improves things quite a bit. Now the stump doesn't look so out of place - it provides a nice backdrop. This crop changes it for me to something I like. -- Bruce Saturday, October 6, 2007, 2:10:54 PM, you wrote: JD Thanks, Godfrey. As you now know, I received your re-crop idea and

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