Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:32:52 +0800 On 10/20/07, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2.

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] The market changes fast. I think Pentax missed the mark with the 645D. If it was released 2 years ago it might have had a chance. No chance at all. It would have been far too expensive. Only when the cost is right will a 645D

Re: Starfighters Co. (was: Completely and totally OT: Politics)

2007-10-19 Thread Evan Hanson
And now, let's discuss WWII planes with a quiz for warbird buffs out there. Please take a look at www.dariobonazza.com/public/KGP03047.jpg What's that? Ciao, Dario Is it a Yak-9? Evan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: PESO - Moonrise

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
SMELL. Tom C. From: Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Moonrise Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:04:59 -0700 (PDT) If you are in such areas, how would I know? ;-)) Jack --- David J Brooks [EMAIL

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
And just who will buy it at $999 when it can be had for $599? I want to meet those people, because I have some items in my garage I'd like to get rid of. Tom C. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not exactly free fall, you can find it for $599, (after rebate), but a lot of places are

Test

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
testtesttesttesttesttesttesttesttest Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

RE: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Sorry if some of these come through twice. Weather made my satellite connection spotty and they don't appear to have reached the archives either... Comments below: Tom C. From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
I like the ethereal look of the rocks and the light. I find the foregound confuses my eye though and I think the person is small and soft which tends to detract. Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Pentax basically ignored the 35mm market for several decades and did have a respectable MF presence. Where has that gotten them to today? Tom C. From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: pdml@pdml.net pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from

Bunches of posts not making it with Hotmail

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Likely sometime in the next two years, you'll get duplicate posts when hotmail gets around to actually sending. Sorry for the duplicates that may arrive. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: Lens purchase saga

2007-10-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Stan Halpin I have had generally good success with both. Adorama has tended to have better selection of Pentax gear in the last few years. What got me steamed about my recent experience is that they arbitrarily cancelled my order and, even worse in my mind, did not let me know. I was

Re: PAW 2007 - 43 - GDG

2007-10-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
ann sanfedele that what you see on the monitor that magenta streak, can come from a kind of eye problem whose name I don't know... but of course, Yeah, it must be an eye problem - I only see the magenta streak when looking @ that image. where is the streak you see? do you still see it? As

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread P. J. Alling
The same people who will spend twice list price for used equipment on e-Bay that is still available new through BH and Adorama. What is e-Bay if not the ultimate garage sale? Tom C wrote: And just who will buy it at $999 when it can be had for $599? I want to meet those people, because I

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Is there any camera on the market that has a 1.2/1.3 crop at the moment? It would not make sense to me to shoot for somewhere between APS-C and FF. You wouldn't *need* new lenses of course... Tom C. From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To:

RE: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Comments below: Tom C. From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:05:53 +0200 Tom Wrote: Are you sure those

RE: Lens purchase saga

2007-10-19 Thread Rod Connan
Thanks Paul - It was just worth waiting with the price difference and the additional import penalty I would have been hit with. It is great that any purchase under AU$1000 is not subject to 10% GST. GST is like a US state sales tax essentially but it hurts when you just go over the I grand and

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread John Francis
On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 12:21:49PM -0600, Tom C wrote: I can't see non-645 owners jumping to a 645D in masses. The 645D would be a low volume seller compared to a 24 x 36 FF body. . . That's a big assumption; I'm by no means convinced you are right. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Comments below: Tom C. From: Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:05:53 +0200 Tom Wrote: Are you sure those

Re: It is crazy... (or lost opportunities for Pentax)

2007-10-19 Thread Doug Franklin
Bob Blakely wrote: No, but it's where I'm going to get some of my money. Careful choice of the best of the most desired has made the value of my collection grow over the years. If you buy the good stuff that everyone covets, you don't loose, it grows in value. True, but I won't sell some

Re: PAW 2007 - 43 - GDG

2007-10-19 Thread ann sanfedele
Kenneth Waller wrote: ann sanfedele that what you see on the monitor that magenta streak, can come from a kind of eye problem whose name I don't know... but of course, Yeah, it must be an eye problem - I only see the magenta streak when looking @ that image. LOL!

Re: Test

2007-10-19 Thread P. J. Alling
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Re: Test

2007-10-19 Thread P. J. Alling
failfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfail Tom C wrote: testtesttesttesttesttesttesttesttest Tom C. -- Remember, it’s pillage then burn. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: PAW 2007 - 43 - GDG

2007-10-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
Ken, I don't see it on my laptop. Perhaps it is an artifact on your screen??? Regards, Bob S. On 10/19/07, Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ann sanfedele that what you see on the monitor that magenta streak, can come from a kind of eye problem whose name I don't know... but of

RE: Starfighters Co.

2007-10-19 Thread John Sessoms
From: Dario Bonazza And now, let's discuss WWII planes with a quiz for warbird buffs out there. Please take a look at www.dariobonazza.com/public/KGP03047.jpg What's that? P-51B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Shooting the Orionids

2007-10-19 Thread Bob Blakely
I recommend ~35mm to 50mm lens for 35mm cameras, ~20mm to 35mm for APS size sensors to catch some sky, as you can't predict exactly where the trails will appear. Must be on tripod. No point in having any of the ground in the shot, unless for effect. NO LIGHTS IN FRAME! Lens should be wide open,

RE: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Bob W
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Dayton Sent: 19 October 2007 22:22 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) So where does 'Turd Gnat' fit in the order?

Re: Interesting times with Pentax

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
Toralf Lund wrote: Adam Maas wrote: Roman Melihhov wrote: I remember how it all started with K10D. Lotta rumors, unrealistic expectations, [ ... ] Roman. Good bet? 12MP, 5fps, improved AF system, ~20 RAW buffer, 1-2 stops better high ISO noise. ISO200-6400 native. New

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
If you will look closely, the photo is not tilted - the horizon is really out at the ocean - it is faint blue but is there. The seeming tilt is because the beach slopes down towards the ocean and the body of seems like it should be the horizon. It is deceiving that it seems like that body of

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Toralf Lund
jtainter wrote: It's been reported here that the DA lenses generally cover very nearly the image circle required by 35mm film, so perhaps they would be perfect for something like 1.3x. Or, I believe someone talked about 1.2x, too; - Some do, some don't. Don't what exactly? The

Re: Lens purchase saga

2007-10-19 Thread Stan Halpin
My filter is trained to accept Adorama mail. Your hypothesis is plausible, but probably wrong. I think they just screwed up. stan On Oct 19, 2007, at 5:41 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Stan, What if Adorama people really did send you an e-mail, but as usual it might have included some

Re: It is crazy... (or lost opportunities for Pentax)

2007-10-19 Thread Bob Blakely
No, but it's where I'm going to get some of my money. Careful choice of the best of the most desired has made the value of my collection grow over the years. If you buy the good stuff that everyone covets, you don't loose, it grows in value. Regards, Bob...

Re: 16-50, local stores etc.

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
Henry's in downtown Toronto has (last I checked, a day or so ago): All the DA lenses except the 40 Limited, 2 43 Limiteds, 2 50/1.4's, 2 each of the D-FA Macro's, 3 16-50's, a 50-135, a half dozen 360 and 540's, a couple MZ-M's, K10D's, K100D's and K100D Super's galore and a full set of finder

FS 18-55/3.5-5.6

2007-10-19 Thread Stan Halpin
Sorry - missed the Subject line on the original... On Oct 19, 2007, at 5:21 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: The basic kit lens for Pentax digital cameras - good value. This is essentially unused, in original box etc. Would make a good companion to the *ist-D I also have up for sale. Make me an offer

16-50, local stores etc.

2007-10-19 Thread Igor Roshchin
I stopped by a local store (Nelson) here, in San Diego. I was surprised by the inventory they had for Pentax K10D, K100D, 16-50/2.8 ($900), 50-135 ($1000), 77/1.8 ($1100), 40/2.8, 50 (?probably macro, f/2.8)... And this was at their smaller store in La Jolla. First of all, I was surpised to see

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2007-10-19 Thread Stan Halpin
The basic kit lens for Pentax digital cameras - good value. This is essentially unused, in original box etc. Would make a good companion to the *ist-D I also have up for sale. Make me an offer on the lens alone or on the set. Off list. Stan [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Ned Bunnell and Pentax Pro Services announcement

2007-10-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
Good news. Ned has dropped in here occasionally. Perhaps we'll see him again when the program is introduced. Paul On Oct 19, 2007, at 6:00 PM, Mark Erickson wrote: All, This may have already been discussed, but I think it's pretty significant. Ned Bunnell, an occasional poster to the

Re: Interesting times with Pentax

2007-10-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree. And it will make a nice camera paired with the K10D as backup. Paul On Oct 19, 2007, at 6:13 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Good bet? 12MP, 5fps, improved AF system, ~20 RAW buffer, 1-2 stops better high ISO noise. ISO200-6400 native. New shutter with 1/8000 and 1/250 sync. Possibly

Re: Starfighters Co.

2007-10-19 Thread Brian Walters
I would have guessed P51 but apparently that's not it. I'd never heard of the Hispano Aviacion HA 1112 Buchon but I doubt that's it. The wheels retract away from the fuselage in the photo you posted whereas in Dario's photo they retract towards the fuselage. Cheers Brian

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread pnstenquist
The forest has come to Dunsinane. -- Original message -- From: Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] HAR! I can see you all rushing for the border with the shrubbery trying to pretend you're only wild bushes. Regards, Bob...

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread Bob Sullivan
My favorite is Denny Crain. We get late night TV commercials with him. Just dial 1-800-My-Right to get your legal problems solved. Blew me away the first time I saw it! Regards, Bob S. On 10/19/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/20/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Peso Free loaders

2007-10-19 Thread David Savage
On 10/20/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Savage wrote: On 10/20/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19/10/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: I know, even with IS, I can't hand-hold my 300mm F4 and expect tak-sharp images; much less with the 500. Give up the

FS *ist-D and various accessories

2007-10-19 Thread Stan Halpin
*-ist-D in good condition. LL-60 focusing screen installed but original screen provided. Will also include 6 CRV3 lithium batteries and a couple of CF cards. *-ist-D Battery Grip K-AC10-U AC power adapter for *ist-D (handy if you are going to use the camera tethered to your laptop, for

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread Bob Blakely
HAR! I can see you all rushing for the border with the shrubbery trying to pretend you're only wild bushes. Regards, Bob... Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection. -Jean Luc Godard - Original

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
David Savage wrote: On 10/20/07, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Nobody knows the size of the MF based digital camera market as no one is really selling any. So what makes you think Pentax can do any better than Hassleblad, Maymia, Leaf etc? If no one is really selling any now,

Interesting times with Pentax

2007-10-19 Thread Roman Melihhov
I remember how it all started with K10D. Lotta rumors, unrealistic expectations, even though it can shake itself shame it still doest do the laundry. At the end it was good tool that does its job well and helps achieving excellence in photography. Now another round, 12Mp? FF? 1.3x 1.25x crop,

Re: PESO - Moonrise

2007-10-19 Thread David Savage
http://www.arach.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/_IGP3061_001.jpg Cheers, Dave On 10/20/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look for the plaid jacket in amongst the darkness. Dave On 10/19/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you are in such areas, how would I know? ;-))

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 19, 2007, at 12:39 PM, Cotty wrote: The pecking order is 1. Shitbag 2. Fartbag 3. Sleazebag. Is there a position for smeghead in your hierarchy? Don't be crude. Too late. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: FS Friday - coals to New Castle , I know - but please checkt this stuff out

2007-10-19 Thread ann sanfedele
mike wilson wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: mike wilson wrote: Two things: 1. Unlike your own town, Newcastle is one word. 8-) I can rationalize that (aside from being miss typo, second only to Brooks in that area) I once had an honorable mention in one of the New York

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread Bob Blakely
Feds also pay for US highways. Regards, Bob... Art is not a reflection of reality. it is the reality of a reflection. -Jean Luc Godard - Original Message - From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at

Re: Peso Free loaders

2007-10-19 Thread David Savage
On 10/20/07, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 19/10/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: I know, even with IS, I can't hand-hold my 300mm F4 and expect tak-sharp images; much less with the 500. Give up the coke. Yeah the caffeine in it is doing you no favours. Cheers, Dave --

Re: Peso Free loaders

2007-10-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/10/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: I know, even with IS, I can't hand-hold my 300mm F4 and expect tak-sharp images; much less with the 500. Give up the coke. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Mark Roberts
A few days ago Mike J had a really interesting historical tale of camera marketing and product lines: http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2007/10/in-the-early-19.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread David Savage
On 10/20/07, Pål Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Nobody knows the size of the MF based digital camera market as no one is really selling any. So what makes you think Pentax can do any better than Hassleblad, Maymia, Leaf etc? If no one is really selling any now, and the size of the

Re: PAW 2007 - 43 - GDG

2007-10-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
I don't see the magenta - either the trhee of us are really going blind or Ken needs a trip to the eye doctor ;) I won't deny a trip to the eye doctors would probably help my close distance focus, but I've never had an issue with color. Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f -

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Cotty
On 19/10/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed: On Oct 19, 2007, at 8:31 AM, Cotty wrote: The pecking order is 1. Shitbag 2. Fartbag 3. Sleazebag. Is there a position for smeghead in your hierarchy? Don't be crude. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People,

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: jtainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] All true, but BH still list a number of 645 lenses, most in stock. Pentax's immediate challenge would be some normal and wide-angle 645 lenses, and they already have a new normal lens on the lens map. The MF lenses are still

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 123mm ISO 800, 1/3000 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/ptreyes_0097.htm I like the light and overall feel. However it feels tilted to my eye due to the way the foreground and background interact, which is

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread David Savage
,,,or douchebag. Cheers, Dave On 10/20/07, Jack Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dirtbag shouldn't be overlooked. Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, you've forgotten the venerable Barfbag ! Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message -

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Pål Jensen
- Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've heard that it was designed as a D-FA lens for full-frame coverage (but optimized for digital with the latest anti-reflective coatings) and the designation was changed to DA because it has no aperture ring. On the

Re: Peso Free loaders

2007-10-19 Thread Christian
Brooks wrote: DJB http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6544943 DJB The blue jays are getting braver these days and i can now get about 15' or so away from them. DJB Taken in the front yard in a bit of drizzle. DJB K10D, FA 70-200 and cropped a bit in PSCS And Bruce Dayton

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Jack Davis
Dirtbag shouldn't be overlooked. Jack --- Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, you've forgotten the venerable Barfbag ! Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about

Re: PESO: Visitor in the office

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
On 10/19/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David J Brooks wrote: Cute cat. Is'nt this why Mike Johnson left the list. Oh that and flowers. and guns... cute cat. Oh ya, forgot. That was my doing i think. Dave -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML

Re: Next move from Pentax: anyone in the know (even under NDA) ?

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I wouldn't want to wear it out. Perhaps I'll put in a digital simulation of a bell to preserve the original... ;-) G On Oct 19, 2007, at 8:24 AM, Y. Rowe wrote: Please, ring it daily! If I may ring the Luddite bell, relying upon AF for critical focus is a foolish idea. -- PDML

RE: PESO: Visitor in the office

2007-10-19 Thread Malcolm Smith
mike wilson wrote: No, it was to avoid sending me his book. Has it still not arrived yet? Have you sent it a birthday card? Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly

Re: Lens purchase saga

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
On 10/18/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi I've never dealt with Adorama. For some reason, they've always seemed a rather odd outfit to me. The folks at BH get most of my business. I've dealt with both. There's not a fig's worth of difference between them.

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Mark Roberts
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's reportedly optimized for the 1.5 image circle. Whether it will cover full frame is another matter, but I'd expect some softness and vignetting at the corners. I've heard that it was designed as a D-FA lens for full-frame coverage (but optimized for digital with

Re: PESO - Moonrise

2007-10-19 Thread Christian
I forgot to comment on this one before. It's a really nice shot and this later rendering looks better than as first displayed. http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/ptreyes_0137a.htm -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
Yes, some places haven't caught up with reality. But it's $599 after rebate from BH, and if they won't price-match, just order from BH. -Adam P. J. Alling wrote: Not exactly free fall, you can find it for $599, (after rebate), but a lot of places are still selling it for 999 or more.

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Christian
Bruce Dayton wrote: Taken at the beach at Pt. Reyes - The sun was near setting and caused the soft glow depicted. Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 123mm ISO 800, 1/3000 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/ptreyes_0097.htm Beautiful shot, Bruce. You can't go wrong with

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Kenneth Waller
Ah, you've forgotten the venerable Barfbag ! Kenneth Waller http://tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: mike wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s) Cotty wrote: On 19/10/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed:

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread jtainter
645 bodies and lenses are gone from the Pentaximaging web site. If the 645d does return it will be a large scale New Product introduction. Something I don't think Pentax has the chutzpah to carry off. Nor do I think they have the production capacity to meet any kind of real demand for new 645

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
On 10/19/07, Bob Blakely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: Not that the Canadians are going to nuke us:-). But there are some leaks up there in the great northern expanses. Don't know 'bout that. They do have about 90% of their population massed within 75

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
The center of a lens has always been optimized for the center of the image circle it projects. :-) Tom C. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

Re: Ned Bunnell and Pentax Pro Services announcement

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: On Oct 19, 2007, at 3:51 PM, Adam Maas wrote: Mark Erickson wrote: All, This may have already been discussed, but I think it's pretty significant. Ned Bunnell, an occasional poster to the Pentax forum over at DPReview, was recently promoted to President of

Re: Ned Bunnell and Pentax Pro Services announcement

2007-10-19 Thread Adam Maas
Mark Erickson wrote: All, This may have already been discussed, but I think it's pretty significant. Ned Bunnell, an occasional poster to the Pentax forum over at DPReview, was recently promoted to President of Pentax Imaging in the USA. There's a nice congratulations thread over at

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread Paul Stenquist
I agree. And I also noticed that the true horizon isn't rotated. It's a Gordian Knot. Paul On Oct 19, 2007, at 5:00 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: I didn't say that the photo was rotated (although it might be). It just give me a sensation that it is due to the strong, sloping foreground lines.

Re: Shooting the Orionids

2007-10-19 Thread Steve Sharpe
At 3:03 PM -0700 10/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This weekend the Orionid meteor shower will be going on. Sunday is also my birthday, so since I'm going to be staying up late anyway, I figure I might as well go out and shoot some shooting stars. What are good settings for shooting such

Re: PESO - Beach Scene

2007-10-19 Thread ann sanfedele
Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pentax K10D, DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 123mm ISO 800, 1/3000 sec @ f/4.5, Handheld http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/ptreyes_0097.htm I like the light and overall feel. However it feels tilted to my eye due to the way the foreground

Re: PAW 2007 - 43 - GDG

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
It's ok... I've hunted for it with a sampler and can't find it. But if you see it, I suppose it's there somehow. Very odd. Godfrey http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/43.htm As I stated in my original response, the very slight magenta streak runs from the ULH side to the LRH

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread jtainter
It's been reported here that the DA lenses generally cover very nearly the image circle required by 35mm film, so perhaps they would be perfect for something like 1.3x. Or, I believe someone talked about 1.2x, too; - Some do, some don't. Speaking only for my own preferences and cognitive

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread David Savage
On 10/20/07, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Charles Robinson Subject: Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics The Canadians. They walk among us. William Shatner. Michael J. Fox. Monty Hall. Mike Meyers. Alex Trebek. All of them Canadians. All of

Re: PESO: Visitor in the office

2007-10-19 Thread David Savage
Cute. But my burning question is: Did anyone try to make a photocopy of it? Cheers, Dave :-) On 10/19/07, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two disclaimers: 1. Not Pentax 2. Not Art. Just aaaw ..and one warning: Adorable kitten! With all that out of the way...

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
On 10/19/07, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All of them jokes or comics. Well except for Fox who qualifies as a tragic figure now. (The sad part is the most admirable of your examples is a game show host). Yep I've set it up come on and hit the hanger... Other than WW, Alex is the only

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm sorry, I thought that was WW saying that. mike wilson wrote: San Jose is in Canada? You learn sooo many new things here. Must tell Google Earth. P. J. Alling wrote: He's in Canada, they'll farm it out to the Mounties. mike wilson wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL

Re: Haven't posted a PESO in a while...

2007-10-19 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: Doesn't look very sharp to me ;-) Oh damn! I'll hit it with USM a few times, OK? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Signing Photo's

2007-10-19 Thread P. J. Alling
I've seen a lot of Photographers using the signature mask technique on their work lately. True a real signed work should be personal, but in most cases they're just doing as an alternative to copyright printing on the image. ann sanfedele wrote: Jens Bladt wrote: Interesting question.

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread pnstenquist
It's reportedly optimized for the 1.5 image circle. Whether it will cover full frame is another matter, but I'd expect some softness and vignetting at the corners. Paul -- Original message -- From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread mike wilson
Cotty wrote: On 19/10/07, Christian, discombobulated, unleashed: I thought Cotty was the only one able to bestow shitbag status on a list member. I'm feeling that my exclusive club is becoming over run with pseudo-shitbags. The pecking order is 1. Shitbag 2. Fartbag 3. Sleazebag.

Re: PAW 2007 - 43 - GDG

2007-10-19 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Oct 18, 2007, at 10:23 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: I don't see the magenta - either the trhee of us are really going blind or Ken needs a trip to the eye doctor ;) Well, at very least I'm not an old blind republican. Two out of three aint bad though. ]'-) godders, this isn't my kind of

Re: Peso Free loaders

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
Might be Bruce. This is the one that was smashed up, and i had repaired. Its also a slow shutter speed even at iso 800, so there could be some motion blur. I I have several squirrel pictures from today, that look sharp. Dave On 10/19/07, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The color and pose

Re: Lens purchase saga

2007-10-19 Thread jtainter
I've never dealt with Adorama. For some reason, they've always seemed a rather odd outfit to me. The folks at BH get most of my business. Godfrey - Adorama are honest, but definitely odd and frequently inept. Often the right hand does not talk to the left. In recent years, Adorama has

Re: PESO: Visitor in the office

2007-10-19 Thread David J Brooks
Cute cat. Is'nt this why Mike Johnson left the list. Oh that and flowers. LOL Dave On 10/19/07, Charles Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Two disclaimers: 1. Not Pentax 2. Not Art. Just aaaw ..and one warning: Adorable kitten! With all that out of the way...

Re: Peso Free loaders

2007-10-19 Thread Bruce Dayton
The color and pose are nice, but it lacks the snap are sharpness that we are getting accustomed to seeing with Christian's Uber-Lens. The backgrounds is nicely blurred but the subject is a little too soft. I don't know if it is an issue with the lens itself or what. -- Bruce Friday, October

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 19, 2007, at 12:04, Bob Blakely wrote: From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: Not that the Canadians are going to nuke us:-). But there are some leaks up there in the great northern expanses. Don't know 'bout that. They do have about 90% of their population massed within 75

Re: PESO - Moonrise

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Bruce, This version does render much cleaner. A beautiful image and composition! Tom C. From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO - Moonrise Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:47:19 -0700 Just got

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread P. J. Alling
He's in Canada, they'll farm it out to the Mounties. mike wilson wrote: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Presidents should simply commit hara-kiri when their approval rating falls below 20% and make way for the next joker. GWB could be a leader and show the way ...

Re: Completely and totally OT: Politics

2007-10-19 Thread Bob Blakely
From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] PS: Not that the Canadians are going to nuke us:-). But there are some leaks up there in the great northern expanses. Don't know 'bout that. They do have about 90% of their population massed within 75 miles of our border. I think they're preparing to

Re: my new photo book SIGNS GONE BY - was : FS Friday - coals to New Castle

2007-10-19 Thread ann sanfedele
and, uh, make that Newcastle so I don't offend the Brits :) Finally SIGNS GONE BY is in good shape and on sale here: http://www.lulu.com/content/1228584 also, son of sign language the black and white calendar is here: http://www.cafepress.com/annsanstuff.179091525 I went with the

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Rebekah
Dreaming? It was only a dream? well I sure as heck will not be switching over to another camera type. ;) rg2 On 10/19/07, Tom C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you sure those lenses are in production? Designed maybe, but I would think otherwise in the same status as the 645D. They're not

Re: Next move from Pentax: hints about sensor for next camera(s)

2007-10-19 Thread Tom C
Are you sure those lenses are in production? Designed maybe, but I would think otherwise in the same status as the 645D. They're not making lenses for a camera that's not on the production line. I'm not expecting it or holding my breath, but to me it makes *more sense* to produce a FF 24 X

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