Re: PESO: Patrick O. Ford

2008-01-15 Thread Derby Chang
Walter Hamler wrote: Yes, I agree about Maya. I think she had so many things against her back then. She was a young woman, Asian, and relatively unknown in the field. There were probably others. I remember one of the strongest objections was the fact that it was essentially underground.

Re: Images supposedly taken with a K20D

2008-01-15 Thread Sylwester Pietrzyk
On 14.01.2008, at 22:06 , Adam Maas wrote: The only ones of any real use in predicting camera performance are the 'ISO 6400 crops'. If they're legit it looks like the K20D will rival the A700 in high ISO performance, but not the D300. It is not known if high ISO noise reduction in K20D was

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
Sorry, I mix them up: Union, Southern, Western... :-) BTW, here is yet another interesting precedences - Court Ruling in a similar and even more relevant to PDML case: http://www.bmcforums.com/showthread.php?t=42796 Pictures of buildings do not violate trademark - Rock Roll Hall of Fame

Re: Hilarious K20D photo

2008-01-15 Thread Brian Walters
Seems like another example of technology because it's possible rather than because it's needed I was amused by this part of the press release: Burlingame, CA, January 14, 2008..(PMA) Convention, held this week from January 31-February 2, 2008... this week??? Cheers Brian

Re: Hilarious K20D photo

2008-01-15 Thread David Savage
On Jan 15, 2008 3:55 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps to 60 fps. 24MB JPEG size and a re-focus button. But the crowning jewel has to be the National

Re: Peso Tree and Stones

2008-01-15 Thread Brian Walters
Very nicely composed - the alignment of the headstones really lead the eye into the image. The branches on the right are a bit distracting but I suspect avoiding them would have been difficult. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia

Re: PESO - Forest

2008-01-15 Thread Brian Walters
It seems to me that the responses so far haven't helped you decide which works best. As a dedicated 'fence sitter', I'm not going to help either :-) I prefer the composition of the 'minor crop' but the texture in the bark is better appreciated in the 'big crop'. I'd be happy with either.

Re: Peso Tree and Stones

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks for the comment Bruce. I was actually trying for tree shots for the fall contest, but maybe the headstones in the shot take that away.?? Maybe i could crop and use this in another catagory, as i do like the line up of the stones. Dave On Jan 14, 2008 6:15 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL

Re: PESO - Forest

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
Ditto Dave On Jan 14, 2008 9:08 PM, Bob Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Like Mark, I like the first image better and think is would be great as a larger format work. Unlike Mark, I think color is the way to go. I love the greens in with the monochrome gray/browns. Good stuff. Regards,

Re: PESO: X2

2008-01-15 Thread David Savage
On Jan 15, 2008 11:15 AM, cbwaters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We were staying not very close to the beach. When the sky looked to be clearing, we decided to try and catch the sunset. We missed the sun but the clouds remaining light were impressive. I wish I'd have brought my tripod from the

Re: Peso Tree and Stones

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
I see what you mean. Its snowed again, and its not far from my house, i'll do a re shoot. Dave On Jan 14, 2008 8:44 PM, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I like this. The only nit I can pick is the way the tree trunk lines up with the edge of the second headstone; and I don't care for the

Re: Peso Tree and Stones

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
Thanks Brian. Its hard, but i'll go back today and re do this one. Maybe i can get in a bit closer or something Dave On Jan 15, 2008 6:41 AM, Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very nicely composed - the alignment of the headstones really lead the eye into the image. The branches on

Re: PESO: X2

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
Both are excellent shots Cory. Just proves that 50-200 does a great job. The second shot is a real heart string tugger. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: PESO - Beggar

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
I think the story helps the shot Cotty. Coffee must be expensive in the UK. Dave On Jan 14, 2008 7:20 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was in Oxford (UK) recently waiting outside a shop, when this girl came up and asked me for a pound for a cup of tea. I dug into my pocket and found some

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread mike wilson
From: Sandy Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/14 Mon PM 11:01:06 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Subject: Ford claims ownership of images A Mustang owners club wants to do a calendar using photos of members' cars. Ford's lawyers object.

Peso Tree and Stones II

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
Another from the cemetery shoot yesterday. Same thing, i'm trying for trees in winter shots, but maybe the stones detract from that. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6840957 K10D, 16-45, LR conversion, CS1 clone dust and minor crop Dave -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com

Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
Excellent again ' Dave On Jan 14, 2008 7:53 PM, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another somewhat less spectacular shot. I love the calm and contemplative mood. The location is an old rural cooperative alongside the Canal de Calais in Pont d'Ardres, Northern France.

Re: Hilarious K20D photo

2008-01-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? David Savage wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 3:55 PM, Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Photoshop fun: http://foto-forum.foren-city.de/topic,2236,-pentax-k20d.html Frame rate adjustable from 8 fps

Re: Photo.net talks back - OFFLIST

2008-01-15 Thread David Savage
Yes, well... Good thing I wasn't bad mouthing anyone. That would be really embarrassing :-) Cheers, Dave On Jan 15, 2008 3:43 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 14, 2008 12:23 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm surprised my spam filter didn't catch this... Or my

Re: Hilarious K20D photo

2008-01-15 Thread mike wilson
Depends whether you keep the bits or the juice. From: P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/15 Tue PM 02:13:20 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hilarious K20D photo Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? David Savage

Re: Hilarious K20D photo

2008-01-15 Thread David Savage
Well it depents. If used in conjunction with the fine (art) filter, yes. If used with the course (grain) filter the results are more chunky. Cheers, Dave On Jan 15, 2008 11:13 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy?

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread P. J. Alling
Igor Roshchin wrote: Sorry, I mix them up: Union, Southern, Western... :-) BTW, here is yet another interesting precedences - Court Ruling in a similar and even more relevant to PDML case: http://www.bmcforums.com/showthread.php?t=42796 Pictures of buildings do not violate trademark - Rock

Re: Hilarious K20D photo

2008-01-15 Thread Mark Roberts
P. J. Alling wrote: Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? It's an email filter -- keeps kittens from posting to the list (all they do is send links to cat photos...) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Hilarious K20D photo

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 15, 2008 9:49 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? It's an email filter -- keeps kittens from posting to the list (all they do is send links to cat photos...) Meow, meow, pur-pur bat a

Re: PESO: X2

2008-01-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Me too!!! Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] I like this one a hell of a lot. Good stuff. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: GESOs: Tetsuya and mirror lens

2008-01-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Derby: by Lumix LX2, do you mean the point shoot camera? I Goggled the name that's what I got. Nice food shots. You dine elegantly to say the least. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Derby Chang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent:

Re: Peso Tree and Stones

2008-01-15 Thread Christine Aguila
David: I agree with Brian below, and I prefer this one to the PESO Tree Stone II, if you're trying to feature trees. But PESO Tree Stone II is nice too. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Brian Walters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent:

Re: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread Christine Aguila
Ralf: I like it! Really like the BW. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax Mailingliste pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 6:53 PM Subject: PESO: More panoramic b/w Another somewhat less spectacular shot. I love the

Re: Hilarious K20D photo

2008-01-15 Thread David Savage
On Jan 16, 2008 12:01 AM, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 9:49 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards aren't they kind of mushy? It's an email filter -- keeps kittens from posting to the list (all

Re: Hilarious K20D photo

2008-01-15 Thread mike wilson
From: David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2008/01/15 Tue PM 03:01:32 GMT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hilarious K20D photo On Jan 15, 2008 9:49 AM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: Kitten filter sounds disturbing, afterwards

Tamron 17-50/2.8 soon for Pentax mount (as the 70-200/2.8)

2008-01-15 Thread Thibouille
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=26313600 April or around it seems... Good news IMO. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML

Re: Images supposedly taken with a K20D

2008-01-15 Thread Thibouille
The poster said it is indeed a preproduction model/firmware. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Forest

2008-01-15 Thread Joseph Tainter
Very minor crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610a.htm Big crop: http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd_5610b.htm - This is a very hard scene to capture. To my eye, images like this usually look too busy with all those branches. I've tried this with Monterey Cypresses several times.

Re: PESO - Forest

2008-01-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/14/2008 3:57:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'd like your feedback on which version of this you like better. First one has a very minor crop and the second was me taking a fresh look at the scene later and make a fairly large crop. Or you may

Re: Peso Tree and Stones

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 15, 2008 10:27 AM, Christine Aguila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David: I agree with Brian below, and I prefer this one to the PESO Tree Stone II, if you're trying to feature trees. But PESO Tree Stone II is nice too. Cheers, Christine Thanks I'm am heading out shortly to try and re

Re: Tamron 17-50/2.8 soon for Pentax mount (as the 70-200/2.8)

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
To late. Already ordered a 28-75 Dave On Jan 15, 2008 11:21 AM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=26313600 April or around it seems... Good news IMO. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo:

Re: PESO - Beggar

2008-01-15 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: I was in Oxford (UK) recently waiting outside a shop, when this girl came up and asked me for a pound for a cup of tea. I dug into my pocket and found some change. I said she could have the money if I could take her picture. She thought for a moment and said, Okay. But I won't

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread Christian
Cotty wrote: On 14/01/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The question being, though *My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. is currently the leading quote, wouldn't **You can never have too many lenses. be more appropriate, (and more a likely candidate for a t-shirt that most

Re: Peso Tree and Stones II

2008-01-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well, if you are trying for trees, then they need to be the subject. This one, like the previous one, is about the headstone. Not that this is a bad shot, just that the trees are more of a framing element rather than the subject. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 5:21:46 AM,

Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 1/14/2008 4:59:12 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another somewhat less spectacular shot. I love the calm and contemplative mood. The location is an old rural cooperative alongside the Canal de Calais in Pont d'Ardres, Northern France.

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread Scott Loveless
Christian wrote: Cotty wrote: I would not buy a T shirt saying 'My glasses are clean but my mind isn't'. Ditto I just bought one of these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/surlybikes/2051150920/ My wife finds it slightly less humorous than I do. I would most definitely buy a shirt that

Re: PESO - Forest

2008-01-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
yes, it seems to be about evenly divided. I'm guessing that some see this photo as a forest type shot and others see it as a texture shot. Your perception of the type of photo would lean you toward one crop or the other. I guess I'll have to decide for myself and disappoint half of you :) .

Re: PESO - Beggar

2008-01-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Christian Subject: Re: PESO - Beggar http://www.cottysnaps.com/snaps/portraits/images/pic33.html Epson R-D1 + Voigtlander 28mm Ultron 1.9 ISO 800, 1/40th sec about f5.6 I think I could have done better, maybe not. YAWN. :-) I find nothing

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
What law is it that I need to check? If you own the rights to a company logo you have a legal claim on how it is displayed and by whom. This doesn't apply to newspapers and television images, however. Reproducing logos without permission (like those in photographs) is rarely allowed by the

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread Paul Sorenson
Christian wrote: Cotty wrote: On 14/01/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The question being, though *My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. is currently the leading quote, wouldn't **You can never have too many lenses. be more appropriate, (and more a likely candidate for a

Re: Tamron 17-50/2.8 soon for Pentax mount (as the 70-200/2.8)

2008-01-15 Thread Thibouille
David, I'm sure the 28-75 will be a very fine lens too. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo: K10D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... Thinkpad: X23+UB,X60+UB Programing: D7 user (trying out D2007) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 15, 2008 12:53 PM, Paul Sorenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian wrote: Cotty wrote: On 14/01/08, P. J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed: The question being, though *My glasses are clean but my mind isn't. is currently the leading quote, wouldn't **You can never have too

Re: Peso Tree and Stones II

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 15, 2008 12:14 PM, Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, if you are trying for trees, then they need to be the subject. This one, like the previous one, is about the headstone. Not that this is a bad shot, just that the trees are more of a framing element rather than the subject.

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I would buy a T Shirt that says You can have too many lenses. Distraction is destructive. If I wore logo'ed T Shirts, that is. I don't. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: Tamron 17-50/2.8 soon for Pentax mount (as the 70-200/2.8)

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
From all I hear, I think so. My reply was just a, crap already ordered a lens, reply.:-) Dave On Jan 15, 2008 12:51 PM, Thibouille [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David, I'm sure the 28-75 will be a very fine lens too. -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- Photo:

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/01/08, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Or was that an intentional typo to reflect the list more accurately? Unintentional, but Dave B's shirt would be that one ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/01/08, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: I'd prefer it *without* the spelling error ... Ack sory ;-) -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 15, 2008 1:19 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/01/08, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Or was that an intentional typo to reflect the list more accurately? Unintentional, but Dave B's shirt would be that one ;-) Again, all alone in the world. Some days i wonder why i

For those that use Future Photo, changes a coming

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
Looks like some changes to my online photo finisher here in the GTA. Dear Future Photo Member, The world of digital photography is changing rapidly, and as a result, so is our approach to the photo finishing business. As a result of these changes, Future Shop has closed its ten in-store Future

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 15, 2008 12:11 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/photo#5155769608380158002 This is the logo for the hats i made in 2006 for GFM Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: PESO: X2

2008-01-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/01/08, cbwaters, discombobulated, unleashed: Anyway... We went to a state park where they had lots of interesting birds. http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/4169363#243523049-A-LB Wow - that's one helluva bird. We were staying not very close to the beach. When the sky looked to be

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Cotty Subject: Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line On 14/01/08, John Francis, discombobulated, unleashed: I'd prefer it *without* the spelling error ... Ack sory ;-) Probably my fault. GB -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Beggar

2008-01-15 Thread Cotty
On 14/01/08, William Robb, discombobulated, unleashed: EB Come back WW, all is forgiven. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

PESO: JADP

2008-01-15 Thread wendy beard
Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread ann sanfedele
Brendan MacRae wrote: What law is it that I need to check? If you own the rights to a company logo you have a legal claim on how it is displayed and by whom. This doesn't apply to newspapers and television images, however. ah, but nonetheless, I've been told my a back-stage guy in the industry

Re: For those that use Future Photo, changes a coming

2008-01-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: For those that use Future Photo, changes a coming Looks like some changes to my online photo finisher here in the GTA. Dear Future Photo Member, The world of digital photography is changing rapidly, and as a result, so is our

Re: JADP

2008-01-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: wendy beard Subject: PESO: JADP Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd He's sure growing up pretty. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread Adam Maas
On 1/15/08, Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christian wrote: Cotty wrote: I would not buy a T shirt saying 'My glasses are clean but my mind isn't'. Ditto I just bought one of these: http://www.flickr.com/photos/surlybikes/2051150920/ My wife finds it slightly less humorous

Re: PESO: JADP

2008-01-15 Thread Cotty
On 15/01/08, wendy beard, discombobulated, unleashed: Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd Wendy, I love your dog pics, they're terrific. But I keep thinking of this cartoon every time I see one ;-)

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread P. J. Alling
It isn't advertising, it can be photographed in public. Sorry, the only reason to remove the logo is to avoid a frivolous law suit, if the loser had to pay in the US Ford would never have brought it. This is entirely covered under fair use. Ford should be happy for the free advertising.

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan MacRae wrote: What law is it that I need to check? If you own the rights to a company logo you have a legal claim on how it is displayed and by whom. This doesn't apply to newspapers and television images, however. ah, but

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread Ken Waller
Quick! Somebody go roll-over an Explorer, Just make sure it has Firestone tires on... Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Stan Halpin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images Quick! Somebody go roll-over an Explorer, and

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Brendan MacRae Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images --- ann sanfedele [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brendan MacRae wrote: What law is it that I need to check? If you own the rights to a company logo you have a legal claim on how it is displayed

Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread Adam Maas
Your usual excellent work, although I would like to see some texture in the sky. -Adam On 1/14/08, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another somewhat less spectacular shot. I love the calm and contemplative mood. The location is an old rural cooperative alongside the Canal de

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread William Robb
- Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images Quick! Somebody go roll-over an Explorer, Just make sure it has Firestone tires on... I read in Popular Mechanics and I believe Car and Driver that the tire issue turned out to be primarily a Ford

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is where the calender people are running afoul of things. If the brand or nameplates are recognizable, they probably are in violation of copyright law, if the vehicle is recognizable as a particular make/model, they may be in violation as

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
--- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It isn't advertising, it can be photographed in public. Sorry, the only reason to remove the logo is to avoid a frivolous law suit, if the loser had to pay in the US Ford would never have brought it. This is entirely covered under fair use.

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread P. J. Alling
So you can have the wrong one mounted on the camera... David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 1:19 PM, Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 14/01/08, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Or was that an intentional typo to reflect the list more accurately? Unintentional,

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread P. J. Alling
When it's not on a hat it looks like the your lens is cracked... David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 12:11 PM, John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. http://picasaweb.google.com/pentkon52/General/photo#5155769608380158002

Re: GESOs: Tetsuya and mirror lens

2008-01-15 Thread Derby Chang
Hi Christine, Yep, the Panasonic version, rather than the pricey Leica one. The sensor is pretty noisy above ISO200-400, but I didn't want to pull out big black K10D. Wanted to be discreet, you know. Other than the sensor, I'm pretty happy with the LX2, especially in RAW mode. All the main

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread Scott Loveless
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Ken Waller Subject: Re: Ford claims ownership of images Quick! Somebody go roll-over an Explorer, Just make sure it has Firestone tires on... I read in Popular Mechanics and I believe Car and Driver that the tire issue turned

Re: PESO: JADP

2008-01-15 Thread P. J. Alling
His teeth are puppy white. wendy beard wrote: Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd Wendy -- I am personally a member of the Cream of the Illuminati. A union with the Bavarian Illuminati is contemplated. When it is

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread Mark Roberts
John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. What I have in mind is a small logo on the front:

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread P. J. Alling
You can never get enough advertising. However that was just an aside. Ford would lose this in court, their claim is frivolous. Ford is in no way harmed, no one is going to confuse the car club with Ford Motor Company. If loser paid Ford would never have brought the action. (Right now it

Re: PESO: JADP

2008-01-15 Thread Bruce Dayton
Well done, as usual. I like your dog portraits. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, January 15, 2008, 10:51:46 AM, you wrote: wb Just Another Dog Photo wb http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 wb Ivan aged 8 months wb K10D, 77ltd wb Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread Doug Brewer
my lawyers will be in touch. Mark Roberts wrote: John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?), of course. What

Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread Doug Brewer
It's subtle, but there is texture there. Excellent work, Ralf. Adam Maas wrote: Your usual excellent work, although I would like to see some texture in the sky. -Adam On 1/14/08, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another somewhat less spectacular shot. I love the calm and

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread Ken Waller
...the tire issue turned out to be primarily a Ford problem, in that the Explorer suspension was inherently unstable... Not so. The Explorer suspension was not unique to the vehicle. ...so they chose a small tire and listed dangerously low inflation pressures in the manual to drop the center

Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nice to angle the whole thing a tad more to the left. The Noblex is a rangefinder camera (if that is what one calls a viewfinder made of two lenses in a rectangular box where you look straight through) and precise framing is total guesswork. I already had to fake a few

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread Brendan MacRae
No, in the Tiffany case it was the stock company not wanting to face possible litigation, just like Cafe Press. Trademarks are strictly off limits unless you get permission or can prove public domain. -Brendan --- P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can never get enough advertising.

Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your usual excellent work, although I would like to see some texture in the sky. There *is* texture in the sky. Not much but it's clearly visible, on my screen. Besides, on the few days when there was more texture in this sky, I would have been blown into

Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread Adam Maas
On 1/15/08, Ralf R. Radermacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your usual excellent work, although I would like to see some texture in the sky. There *is* texture in the sky. Not much but it's clearly visible, on my screen. Besides, on the few days when there

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread pnstenquist
Excellent, Ken. Please take the stand:-). I find it very entertaining that so many people, who know so little about automobiles, are always ready to trash the US auto industry. It's been a popular indoor sport since Ralph and company kicked it off in the late sixties with another misinformation

Re: Peso: ~ Surf Scoters ~

2008-01-15 Thread Derby Chang
Francis wrote: Good morning my good people, These diving ducks feed in extremely tight flocks, all diving at the same time, and then all surfacing together. I've taken lots of photos of them over the years but this is the first one that seemed worthwhile. http://tinyurl.com/ys5zwf

Re: For those that use Future Photo, changes a coming

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
I suppose we'll hear soon. I use them for some of my prints, and i think they do a decent job, plus they deliver. Dave On Jan 15, 2008 2:07 PM, William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: David J Brooks Subject: For those that use Future Photo, changes a coming

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 15, 2008 3:09 PM, Doug Brewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: my lawyers will be in touch. Their busy at Ford right now, take a number.:-) Dave Mark Roberts wrote: John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font.

Re: Ford claims ownership of images

2008-01-15 Thread P. J. Alling
That is correct. They are strictly off limits. You cannot use someone else's trade mark, and in the case of a stock photo containing jewelry there is more than a little chance that a Jewelry Store purchasing it for advertising, and not being a Tiffany distributor. might run afoul of that.

Re: PESO: JADP

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 15, 2008 2:47 PM, P. J. Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: His teeth are puppy white. Wait till he starts hanging out with the Labs, smoking, drinking, barking, tail wagging. Dave wendy beard wrote: Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged

Re: PESO: JADP

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
Thats great. Dave On Jan 15, 2008 1:51 PM, wendy beard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just Another Dog Photo http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/91712503 Ivan aged 8 months K10D, 77ltd Wendy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread David J Brooks
On Jan 15, 2008 2:55 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's Pentax after all right? And some kind of PDML reference (URL? Logo?),

Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
How's the sky on the other contributors' monitors? Anyone else using a calibrated display? Mine is callibrated with a Colorvision Spyder. Excellent, delicate texturing is visible on both my laptop and desktop monitors. Both are calibrated with the Eye One Display 2 unit and its accompanying

Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread caguila
Ralf: Even on my crappy monitor at work, I'm getting lovely, delicate texturing (I'm quoting Godfrey below). Frankly, I wouldn't worry about a thing with this photo. It's lovely as is, in my view. Big cheers, Christine -Original Message- From: Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PESO: More panoramic b/w

2008-01-15 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Godfrey DiGiorgi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My calibration settings are 130 Luminance, 1.8 gamma, 5500K white point. Aha. Same here. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany private homepage: http://www.fotoralf.de manual cameras and photo galleries - updated Jan.

Re: 2007 Quotations List On Line

2008-01-15 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 03:53:22PM -0500, David J Brooks wrote: On Jan 15, 2008 2:55 PM, Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Francis wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 11:57:06AM -0500, Christian wrote: XXlarge. Light blue with dark font. Large. Black with red font. It's

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