Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-01 22:48 , P. J. Alling wrote: Some file systems don't use extensions, they associate programs and data using other methods. I don't know how Apple did it in the pre OS-X days, (I didn't care enough to actually learn), but Now I assume they use the Unix conventions. Mac OS X has

RE: GESO - A day of dance

2010-06-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
Cotty wrote: On 1/6/10, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/UptonBampton2/ Chris, when the heck were you in Bampton??? That's the next village to us, you should have called me mate. Nice picks BTW although I loathe morrismen!!! There were lots of

Re: PESO - light

2010-06-02 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 1, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/light-1703 Excellent photo. It reminds me of some of the depression era photos. Just FYI, posting photos like that is a good way to make people hate you. enjoy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: GESO - A day of dance

2010-06-02 Thread Larry Colen
I particularly like: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/UptonBampton2/slides/_IGP3291.html with the young kid. Aren't you just about a month late posting these? On Jun 1, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Chris Mitchell wrote: WARNING: Contains images of gratuitous Morris dancing. From Upton House and the

Re: PESO - light

2010-06-02 Thread Bob W
http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/light-1703 enjoy that's beautiful - lovely shot, well seen. b -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: Camping at GFM

2010-06-02 Thread Bob W
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:14 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I took it as a reference to early match-lock muskets that were fired with the barrel supported by a cleft stick. I don't think so. From some of the other responses, I don't think that's what they were referring

Re: PESO - light

2010-06-02 Thread Sasha Sobol
nice one! --S On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:54 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: http://dougbrewer.posterous.com/light-1703 enjoy that's beautiful - lovely shot, well seen. b -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/1 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: In my experience, those who make a living from the tools they use make it a point to understand them and ensure they keep working, be that cameras, lenses or computers. In this respect, it will be the same for PC users and Mac users. Of course it should be the

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread David Mann
On Jun 2, 2010, at 3:13 PM, William Robb wrote: Now I realize that Paul won't believe me, but a few years ago I was talking about computers with an acquaintance who is both a Mac user and an idiot. I mentioned something about file extensions and he didn't have a clue what I was talking

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 02/06/2010, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: My point is that Jostein's sample users in the south Atlantic appears to me to be only indicative of a bunch of people on a photo trip to the south atlantic, with few full-time professional photographers on board. Using a computer, be it a Mac or a

Re: GESO - A day of dance

2010-06-02 Thread Doug Brewer
Chris Mitchell wrote: Doug Brewer wrote WARNING: Contains images of gratuitous Morris dancing. From Upton House and the village of Bampton in Oxfordshire: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/UptonBampton2/ K7 and DA*50-135. Sorry that there are no references to forgotten children - just thought

Re: PESO- Shafts

2010-06-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 02/06/2010, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: On a campout over the weekend - early morning light cutting through the trees. Very cool shot, it looks like the rays have dragged the branches along with them. -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:48 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Which don't necessarily need file extensions, there are a variety of methods that would work without extensions that don't involve magic. There are also methods that DO involve magic.

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Rob Studdert
On 02/06/2010, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: A few from the gallery opening and Millennium Park... http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/index.html Pentax K-X w/ either FA 50/1.4 or Tamron 28-200 Another great set of images! ;-) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel:

Re: OT GPS Devices

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 1:12 AM, mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com wrote: This has always intrigued me.  Do the roads change that much? When you had to pay for every update individually, I pretty much felt like it was worth buying once a year, not once per quarter (the release interval for the

Re: OT: Kids are Dying in Cars

2010-06-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/1/2010 5:27 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: Plus you asked for the insight of an Economist, and I spent a good number of years studying to become one. I'm not kidding when I talk about my disdain for the profession. So I surely did. Well, you sure have your reasons for disdain... Boris -- PDML

Re: OT: A follow-up to the hyperthermia article

2010-06-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/1/2010 4:16 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Paul: There may be disagreement on what the appropriate remedy should be, but your fine articles perform a great public service by bringing public attention to this unfortunate problem. I for one am extremely proud of you. Dan What Dan said!

Re: OT: A follow-up to the hyperthermia article

2010-06-02 Thread Steven Desjardins
I've followed most of this thread but I could have missed a few given its length. It strikes me that much of this could be dealt with through education. Most new parents have some doctor/hospital/birthing classes contact these days. Making people aware that this is a real problem would help.

Re: OT: A follow-up to the hyperthermia article

2010-06-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/2/2010 2:55 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote: I've followed most of this thread but I could have missed a few given its length. It strikes me that much of this could be dealt with through education. Most new parents have some doctor/hospital/birthing classes contact these days. Making people

Re: OT GPS Devices

2010-06-02 Thread Walter Hamler
Bill, I recently purchased a Magellan 1700 that came with a lifetime update package included. It is a rather large unit, for which I am now having reservations about keeping it. It works as advertised but it has limitations. On a recent trip to the N. GA mountains, a trip I have made many times

Re: OT GPS Devices

2010-06-02 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/2/2010 3:29 AM, William Robb wrote: So, I decided to update my less than 1 year old TomTom and the bastards want me to pay for the pleasure. Now, there is nothing wrong with the unit, it just kinda irks me. Bill, for whatever it is worth, but my cell phone has pretty good GPS module and

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Paul Sorenson
Thanks, Rob -p On 6/2/2010 6:38 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 02/06/2010, Paul Sorensonallarou...@earthlink.net wrote: A few from the gallery opening and Millennium Park... http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/index.html Pentax K-X w/ either FA 50/1.4 or Tamron 28-200 Another

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Doug Brewer
Paul Sorenson wrote: A few from the gallery opening and Millennium Park... http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/index.html Pentax K-X w/ either FA 50/1.4 or Tamron 28-200 -p best photo of me, ever: http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/content/PDML_Gallery_53_large.html good gallery,

Re: OT: A follow-up to the hyperthermia article

2010-06-02 Thread P N Stenquist
Thanks to all who read this thread and the previous. Increased awareness is indeed part of the solution, and it may prove adequate. The problem has drawn a lot of attention over the last year or so. Time will tell if that has an effect. Paul On Jun 2, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Re: Camping at GFM

2010-06-02 Thread mike wilson
On 2 June 2010 08:50, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 6:14 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I took it as a reference to early match-lock muskets that were fired with the barrel supported by a cleft stick. I don't think so. From some of the other

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Paul Sorenson
You'll notice I made it a point not to show your legs. ;-) -p On 6/2/2010 8:07 AM, Doug Brewer wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: A few from the gallery opening and Millennium Park... http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/index.html Pentax K-X w/ either FA 50/1.4 or Tamron 28-200 -p best

Re: OT GPS Devices

2010-06-02 Thread eckinator
2010/6/2 William Robb war...@gmail.com: So, I decided to update my less than 1 year old TomTom and the bastards want me to pay for the pleasure. Now, there is nothing wrong with the unit, it just kinda irks me. So, what's a good GPS unit? I'm interested in either a Garmin or a Magellan since

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Paul - Nice gallery - and you did, I think, an extra good job with the tight close-ups of the gang... (even the one of me;-) ) the one of Mark, especially but all of them really capture personalities and moods very well. Best, ann Paul Sorenson wrote: A few from the gallery opening

Re: PESO- Shafts

2010-06-02 Thread Bruce Dayton
Thanks to all for looking and commenting. -- Best regards, Bruce Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 4:27:01 AM, you wrote: RS On 02/06/2010, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: On a campout over the weekend - early morning light cutting through the trees. RS Very cool shot, it looks like

Re: Kids are Dying in Cars

2010-06-02 Thread Ken Waller
LOL, sounds like a Monty Python segment. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au Subject: RE: Kids are Dying in Cars It's amazing what humans can do to overcome such difficulties. My time in the RAF

RE: GESO - A day of dance

2010-06-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
Larry Colen wrote Sent: 02 June 2010 08:43 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: GESO - A day of dance I particularly like: http://www.mitch.myzen.co.uk/UptonBampton2/slides/_IGP3291.html with the young kid. Thanks, I'm pleased that I managed to catch her in step with the

RE: GESO - A day of dance

2010-06-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
Doug Brewer wrote which one is Morris? Since it was in Oxfordshire, must be this one I suppose: http://www.motorbase.com/uploads/2006/05/07/fs_my_1959_morris_oxford.jp g And this car inspires people to attach bells to their knees and prance about with sticks and hankies? What a

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-02 04:06 , David Mann wrote: For something that was created on a Mac, the system stores extra data that associates the file with the program that created it. this was true until 10.6 ... starting with Snow Leopard, the creator code associations are no longer respected by the

Re: OT GPS Devices

2010-06-02 Thread Christian Skofteland
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 06:29:53PM -0600, William Robb wrote: So, I decided to update my less than 1 year old TomTom and the bastards want me to pay for the pleasure. Now, there is nothing wrong with the unit, it just kinda irks me. So, what's a good GPS unit? I'm interested in either a

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-02 03:32 , AlunFoto wrote: Besides, people use their computers for more purposes than just image storage/processing, and a little understanding really goes a long way. so might we expand László Moholy-Nagy's famous quote to say: The illiterate of the future will be ignorant of the

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Larry Colen
I like the guy in the background of this: http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/content/PDML_Gallery_37_large.html On Jun 2, 2010, at 6:04 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Thanks, Rob -p On 6/2/2010 6:38 AM, Rob Studdert wrote: On 02/06/2010, Paul Sorensonallarou...@earthlink.net wrote:

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Paul Sorenson
I didn't notice him until I saw the image on a larger screen. Guess he was looking for his 15 (or less) minutes of fame. :-) -p On 6/2/2010 1:11 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I like the guy in the background of this: http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/content/PDML_Gallery_37_large.html On Jun

Milton Keynes PDML meeting

2010-06-02 Thread Chris Mitchell
Just a reminder - we're going to Bletchley Park on Sunday 6 June (D-Day). www.bletchleypark.org.uk At the moment it's just Bob W and me (Cotty has found a lame excuse related to earning money). So any other UK (or nearby) PDMLers who want to rescue me from spending the day on my own with the

Re: Photos from Hallett Motor Speedway

2010-06-02 Thread eckinator
2010/5/28 tbei...@sbcglobal.net: The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles Major League of Photography: Ecke Maisel-Maysles. I shoot like Maisel and I see like Maysles (not seriously thinking so) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread William Robb
On 01/06/2010 11:35 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: A few from the gallery opening and Millennium Park... http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/index.html Pentax K-X w/ either FA 50/1.4 or Tamron 28-200 -p Good God, you've made that first picture look like I'm holding court or something. --

Re: PUGs are up

2010-06-02 Thread eckinator
Domain Registration seems valid - see line marked +++ so it must be not so much web server down but rather DNS records not published as nslookup indicates missing A records for the ns.komkon.org and ns.komkon.com name servers whereas ns.frontex.com was found but is unresponsive so there isn't even

Re: Photos from Hallett Motor Speedway

2010-06-02 Thread eckinator
010/6/2 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2010/5/28  tbei...@sbcglobal.net: The eye of the viewer becomes the eye of the Photographer. Albert Maysles Major League of Photography: Ecke Maisel-Maysles. I shoot like Maisel and I see like Maysles (not seriously thinking so) No wait. I forgot

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/2/2010 7:27 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:48 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Which don't necessarily need file extensions, there are a variety of methods that would work without extensions that don't involve magic. There are also methods

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 02:54 , steve harley wrote: On 2010-05-31 12:22 , P. J. Alling wrote: Richer and better educated doesn't necessarly translate to more intellegent. which is why i didn't say i had disproved the assertion; just pointing out how fruitless my search for the study had been

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 04:44 , AlunFoto wrote: For example, one of the guys made a substantial (his word) income from printing fine art for other artists. He owned one of those giant Epsons, nine thousand something. I had to help him recover his LR catalogue twice, convert his emails to text-only,

Re: Camping at GFM

2010-06-02 Thread eckinator
2010/6/2 mike wilson m.9.wil...@ntlworld.com: A cleft stick must be explicitly cloven. The Imperial Abyssinian Post Office probably has a Department of Stick Cleaving for the purpose. In fact (drum roll...) they have one in every branch (cue side-splitting laughter). Haile unlikely. AFAIK

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 06:11 , William Robb wrote: With Mac, you are locked in to what Steve Jobs tells you to buy. Now I realize that he and Jesus Christ are one and the same to (apparently most) Mac users, but I still like the option of choice. Then for daddy God's sake, buy a Mac and use

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 06:27 , William Robb wrote: I reiterate: Adobe had 1.5 years advance notice. Apple made available lists of software that would break. Adobe was at the top of the alpha list. Adobe, in couched terms, basically said their software would break under undisclosed

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 07:13 , Cotty wrote: On 1/6/10, Cotty, discombobulated, unleashed: Just like they would in the days before computers - they would know what goes on in the film just as well, but perhaps not well enough to start fixing one of those humungous automated processing

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 07:34 , William Robb wrote: On 01/06/2010 7:51 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: I have never had trouble with Thunderbird. Our office has OE, and I consider it far less flexible and quite a bit slower. For important things, I always use Thunderbird. The things I'm having

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 07:46 , P. J. Alling wrote: Now Linux and Apple may want the same thing but for a number of reasons that's unlikely with either. Why give sustenance to your enemy? http://tinyurl.com/23qnozo On 6/1/2010 10:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Google has apparently

Early 1900s in Colour

2010-06-02 Thread Toine
By Albert Kahn: http://citynoise.org/article/10598 Toine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 07:44 , William Robb wrote: On 01/06/2010 8:38 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: Google has apparently decided to ban the use of MS operating systems in its facilities, making employees switch to Macs or Linux. Then again, what does Google know?G

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:21 , P. J. Alling wrote: Much as I'd like to see Linux take off, it doesn't give me confidence, and Apple has been playing on MS's turf all along without making major inroads into their core business. If Microsoft gets it's act back together, easier said than done, it

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread William Robb
On 02/06/2010 2:38 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Are you saying that Bill Gates, the other JC in the room, took something away and forced you to use something else, in essence dictating what you had to use? Impossible. :-) Yeah, the buggers took away Outlook Express and replaced it with

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:56 , William Robb wrote: On 01/06/2010 12:42 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Diversity has its benefits: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/technology/27apple.html The 150,000,000 that Microsoft gave them probably didn't hurt too much either. You f*** with Apple, you

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 17:45 , William Robb wrote: On 01/06/2010 6:31 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Sounds like he's a bit insecure. A pity that. He's a millionaire investment banker who retired at the age of 50. His last investment account was something like 35 billion dollars that he

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, the buggers took away Outlook Express and replaced it with nothing. They replaced it with Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mail

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread William Robb
On 02/06/2010 2:48 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jun 1, 2010, at 11:21 , P. J. Alling wrote: Much as I'd like to see Linux take off, it doesn't give me confidence, and Apple has been playing on MS's turf all along without making major inroads into their core business. If Microsoft gets it's

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread William Robb
On 02/06/2010 2:59 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, the buggers took away Outlook Express and replaced it with nothing. They replaced it with Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Mail

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:00 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect that if Microsoft had started making telephones, and MP3 players, they would have landed back in front of the US Senate on combines investigation charges again. Microsoft makes the Zune media players and the Kin

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:04 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I am aware of Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail. It doesn't change my outlook, so to speak. So what the fuck did you mean when you said that Microsoft replaced Outlook Express with nothing? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread William Robb
On 02/06/2010 3:06 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: So what the fuck did you mean when you said that Microsoft replaced Outlook Express with nothing? Temper there me boy, there's no need for that. I looked at Live Mail, decided that it wasn't what I wanted. Which makes it nothing. YMMV -- William

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread William Robb
On 02/06/2010 3:06 PM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:04 PM, William Robbwar...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I am aware of Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail. It doesn't change my outlook, so to speak. So what the fuck did you mean when you said that Microsoft replaced Outlook

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Bob W
Good God, you've made that first picture look like I'm holding court or something. -- William Robb I expect you were teaching them to say Fuckwit in 13 languages. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML,

Re: Milton Keynes PDML meeting

2010-06-02 Thread Bob W
-- From: Chris Mitchell chris.mitch...@which.net Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2010 7:47 PM To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: Milton Keynes PDML meeting Just a reminder - we're going to Bletchley Park on Sunday 6 June (D-Day).

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-02 14:16 , Joseph McAllister wrote: I used to be a Filemaker guru on the Apple IIgs, FileMaker Pro on the Mac IIfx, so I'm not unaware of database use. time-warp alert -- i'm a FileMaker lifer since Claris bought it (FileMaker II, 1988), and i'm sure the original FileMaker release

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-02 14:30 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Adobe knew they would be coming out with a new version of CS that would work fine under OS 10.6, and opted to NOT do a minor upgrade to their legacy products, forcing their clients to spend the money for the upgrade to a major new version. once

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread P N Stenquist
On Jun 2, 2010, at 5:33 PM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-06-02 14:30 , Joseph McAllister wrote: Adobe knew they would be coming out with a new version of CS that would work fine under OS 10.6, and opted to NOT do a minor upgrade to their legacy products, forcing their clients to spend the

Re: OT: Kids are Dying in Cars

2010-06-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling On 5/31/2010 5:33 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: P. J. Alling crysus vs crises how did the spell checker let me send that? It expected you to take personal responsibility. ;-D It was a little, (very), joke... Yeah, mine too. I guess we both have small minds.

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Paul Sorenson
I thought you were... ;-) -p On 6/2/2010 2:57 PM, William Robb wrote: On 01/06/2010 11:35 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: A few from the gallery opening and Millennium Park... http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/index.html Pentax K-X w/ either FA 50/1.4 or Tamron 28-200 -p Good God, you've

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: P. J. Alling On 6/1/2010 4:30 AM, Cotty wrote: On 31/5/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: Seventy-five percent of statistics on the internet are made up on the spot anyway. Mark! Since that's just a minor variation on the original, (dropon the

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 20:13 , William Robb wrote: Is that a Tom or a Queen you would prefer??? This sounds like a case of you only get to do what Steve thinks you should do. Now I realize that Paul won't believe me, but a few years ago I was talking about computers with an acquaintance who is

Re: Photos from Hallett Motor Speedway

2010-06-02 Thread eckinator
I apologize, Ted, I completely omitted any comment about your photos - I quite enjoyed them, especially those of the vintage cars - can one call them race rods? - and nice panning action there, too. Also, the one of the Miata behind the Super Seven =) Tiny nit - can you modify your website so I

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 5:00 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect that if Microsoft had started making telephones, and MP3 players, they would have landed back in front of the US Senate on combines investigation charges again. I must admit, the iPad looks like a pretty cool toy,

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 1, 2010, at 21:48 , P. J. Alling wrote: Is that a Tom or a Queen you would prefer??? This sounds like a case of you only get to do what Steve thinks you should do. Now I realize that Paul won't believe me, but a few years ago I was talking about computers with an acquaintance who is

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Bob W
[...] and maybe you'll get it right; i personally believe that simplicity is overrated, [...] any system like this is bound to mean annoyance, confusion or even trouble for some; i am having trouble finding the perfect stove for my home too, because many are too automatic or have a fifth

Re: OT: Kids are Dying in Cars

2010-06-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: Tom C Having checked the stats... In 2007... children aged: 1... 57 drownings 1-4.. 458 drownings (#1 rank of deaths by unintentional injury for 2007 in this age group) 5-9.. 122 drownings apparently people get stupider as they age as

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 2, 2010, at 02:32 , AlunFoto wrote: 2010/6/1 Cotty cotty...@mac.com: In my experience, those who make a living from the tools they use make it a point to understand them and ensure they keep working, be that cameras, lenses or computers. In this respect, it will be the same for PC

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/6/10, Paul Sorenson, discombobulated, unleashed: A few from the gallery opening and Millennium Park... http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/index.html Pentax K-X w/ either FA 50/1.4 or Tamron 28-200 Enjoyed this gallery very much Paul. The portraits are very good, especially of Ted and

Re: Milton Keynes PDML meeting

2010-06-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/6/10, Chris Mitchell, discombobulated, unleashed: We'll see some MK sights, I never thought these words would present themselves in this order to me, ever. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Re: OT: A follow-up to the hyperthermia article

2010-06-02 Thread John Sessoms
from: Paul Stenquist Since there was so much earnest debate of the forgotten-child issue here, I thought some might want to see the followup on the Times blog this morning. http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/01/as-the-weather-warms-hyperthermia-deaths-mount/ Good ideas what can be done

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 2, 2010, at 04:27 , Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:48 AM, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: Which don't necessarily need file extensions, there are a variety of methods that would work without extensions that don't involve magic. There are also methods

Re: Early 1900s in Colour

2010-06-02 Thread Bob W
By Albert Kahn: http://citynoise.org/article/10598 Toine fantastic stuff. There's a book of his stuff knocking around too - it's well worth looking at. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: William Robb On 01/06/2010 11:24 AM, steve harley wrote: On 2010-06-01 08:46 , P. J. Alling wrote: Google is a competitor with Microsoft, they both want the same thing, TWD, total world domination, Now Linux and Apple may want the same thing but for a number of reasons that's

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Cotty
On 1/6/10, John Sessoms, discombobulated, unleashed: I've been using the Macs at school for a week now. My first impression is either the Mac programmers are idiots or they think their users are. I have to read a document. It's in PDF format. I double click the icon to open it, and it doesn't

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 2, 2010, at 14:00 , William Robb wrote: http://tinyurl.com/23qnozo I suspect that if Microsoft had started making telephones, and MP3 players, they would have landed back in front of the US Senate on combines investigation charges again. I must admit, the iPad looks like a pretty

Re: Milton Keynes PDML meeting

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Roberts
Chris Mitchell wrote: Just a reminder - we're going to Bletchley Park on Sunday 6 June (D-Day). www.bletchleypark.org.uk Reading assignment: The Code Book by Simon Singh Really good stuff! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-02 16:38 , Joseph McAllister wrote: On Jun 2, 2010, at 04:27 , Matthew Hunt wrote: There are also methods that DO involve magic. I haven't read any developers pages since 1995, the file command, the useful part of what magic helps with, dates to 1973 (Mac OS X does not utilize

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 2, 2010, at 14:31 , steve harley wrote: On 2010-06-02 14:16 , Joseph McAllister wrote: I used to be a Filemaker guru on the Apple IIgs, FileMaker Pro on the Mac IIfx, so I'm not unaware of database use. time-warp alert -- i'm a FileMaker lifer since Claris bought it (FileMaker

Re: Milton Keynes PDML meeting

2010-06-02 Thread Bob W
Just a reminder - we're going to Bletchley Park on Sunday 6 June (D-Day). www.bletchleypark.org.uk Reading assignment: The Code Book by Simon Singh Really good stuff! I first decided to go to Bletchley years ago, although this will be my first time there, after I read 'Alan Turing - The

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Bob W
http://www.studio1941.com/pdml_chicago/index.html Pentax K-X w/ either FA 50/1.4 or Tamron 28-200 Enjoyed this gallery very much Paul. The portraits are very good, especially of Ted and Annsan, and what to say about this?

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Jun 2, 2010, at 15:56 , Joseph McAllister wrote: my brain is so swiss cheesy that I could be thinking yogurt. MARK! if I may. I like it. Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com THE SENILITY PRAYER : Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The good fortune to run

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Paul Sorenson
H - I can do that now on my el cheapo Windows notebook - and it doesn't require a $30 adapter... -p On 6/2/2010 5:47 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: Hooked to your Pentax, you can view important shots in hi-res right after you take them (but not live view) and make corrections before you

Approaching GFM

2010-06-02 Thread Mark Roberts
We've had a splendid week thus far... Lounging about and bicycling with friends through the 3-day holiday weekend. Then on Tuesday Lisa and I hiked on Grandfather Mountain: The Cragway and Daniel Boone trails up to Calloway peak and then on to Attic Window peak. Around 9.5 miles all told,

Re: GESO - Probably the last of the Chicago galleries

2010-06-02 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, Very nice gallery. I thought your picture of 'the bean' was one of the best I've seen. It gave it a real sense of size and scale. The pan with the 'L' train is great. Regards, Bob S. On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 12:35 AM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: A few from the gallery

Re: Milton Keynes PDML meeting

2010-06-02 Thread John Francis
On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 06:50:08PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Chris Mitchell wrote: Just a reminder - we're going to Bletchley Park on Sunday 6 June (D-Day). www.bletchleypark.org.uk Reading assignment: The Code Book by Simon Singh Really good stuff! I have a copy on the bookshelf beside my

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread John Sessoms
From: paul stenquist On Jun 1, 2010, at 2:56 PM, William Robb wrote: On 01/06/2010 12:42 PM, paul stenquist wrote: Diversity has its benefits: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/27/technology/27apple.html The 150,000,000 that Microsoft gave them probably didn't hurt too much either.

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 6:56 PM, Joseph McAllister pentax...@mac.com wrote: On Jun 2, 2010, at 14:31 , steve harley wrote: On 2010-06-02 14:16 , Joseph McAllister wrote: I used to be a Filemaker guru on the Apple IIgs, FileMaker Pro on the Mac IIfx, so I'm not unaware of database use.

Re: OT - Abobe Woes

2010-06-02 Thread Adam Maas
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 7:12 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Do you reckon Apple's current dispute with Adobe over Flash has any different motivation than Microsoft's dispute with SUN over Java? Flash remains the largest common security vulnerability on Macs. I really hope Apple

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