Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Cotty
On 13/6/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. A sister and two right brothers. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com

Photographing graduations

2010-06-14 Thread Larry Colen
Months ago, a friend sent me a note asking what I'd charge to photograph her graduation. I'm really glad that I didn't ask for any money. Her graduation was today, and while I got some good shots afterwards, I am not at all happy of any of the ones that I got of her getting her scroll.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Boris Liberman
Yeah, right... ;-) On 6/14/2010 9:49 AM, Cotty wrote: On 13/6/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. A sister and two right brothers. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: So...how many of us can kick in 20USD and see how far it goes? I did, just before reading this message. -p On 6/12/2010 5:04 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: Doug - What kind of operating costs are we looking at? There

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com: Paul, I'm behind what you are saying 100%. Ecke or Dario, if you have cheaper ideas then lay them out for us. But don't forget you have 2-400 pdml subscribers, a digest, and lots of message traffic (200+ messages a day). In fact I am totally in

Re: Memory card image recovery programs

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: The problem is that two different cards seemed to have imgp7543.pef  - imgp7577.pef Or, whatever they were numbered, and the second card that I read had the less critical files of those names. Were the cards written in the same camera? I had the

RE: Taking Panoramics to the Next Level.

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/10402/seitz_panoramic_camera/ if it's waterproof you could surf on it. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Few of us are spending on film anymore so we have all of that money piling up from the unrealized expense. Mark! Yen! Drachma! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above

Re: Taking Panoramics to the Next Level.

2010-06-14 Thread Derby Chang
William Robb wrote: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/10402/seitz_panoramic_camera/ William Robb from the sublime to the ridiculous http://microsites.lomography.com/spinner-360/ I can't see me paying what Lomography are charging, but I'm sure there will be Chinese ebayers with sharper

Re: Taking Panoramics to the Next Level.

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au: William Robb wrote: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/10402/seitz_panoramic_camera/ William Robb from the sublime to the ridiculous http://microsites.lomography.com/spinner-360/ I can't see me paying what Lomography are charging, but I'm sure

Re: Taking Panoramics to the Next Level.

2010-06-14 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au wrote: from the sublime to the ridiculous http://microsites.lomography.com/spinner-360/ Nothing new under the sun. From the early 1990's: http://somakray.blogspot.com/2009/11/spinshot-panoramic-camera.html Also mentioned in Joseph Meehan's book Panoramic

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - DL9KCG - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de --

Nice sunset photo

2010-06-14 Thread David Mann
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/IOTD/view.php?id=44267 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

PESO - Gossip

2010-06-14 Thread frank theriault
http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/gossip.html I'm not sure what kind of ducks they are, but they're quite pretty. I missed the focus (manual focus lens) and I didn't have my monopod with me, but I think it's kind of funny that they look like they're talking about the big goose swimming

Re: PESO - Gossip

2010-06-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/6/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/gossip.html I'm not sure what kind of ducks they are, but they're quite pretty. I missed the focus (manual focus lens) and I didn't have my monopod with me, but I think it's kind of funny that

Re: PAW23 - Doll in Strasbourg

2010-06-14 Thread Adam Maas
Curious and interesting, great capture. -Adam On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:47 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: I just came home from a trip, and found this in my memory card: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html K20D, DA70mm, 1/90s, f/4.5, ISO200 The previous PAWs are

Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer

2010-06-14 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Peter! Having a working A* 300 gives you the option of either selling or using. That way you can't help but benefit from stubborn. Jack --- On Sun, 6/13/10, P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com wrote: From: P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer

Re: PESO - Gossip

2010-06-14 Thread Jack Davis
It works for me, Frank. I'd say it's a good focus compromise under the circumstances. Jack --- On Mon, 6/14/10, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: From: frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com Subject: PESO - Gossip To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Date: Monday,

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
Another forum I belong to (not photography ;-) has a voluntary subscription rate of $30 per year through PayPal. It automatically charges me every May unless I stop it. This takes care of memory issues. Some (and I emphasize some) might be willing to so something similar for the PDML.

Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
Great shot. You must have used a very high shutter speed to freeze the wings that well. On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: I was, again, enjoying the patio chaise when the nearby garden was visited by a Humming Bird. In this case, a Stellula calliope. She

Re: PESO - Gossip

2010-06-14 Thread Brian Walters
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 07:37 -0400, frank theriault knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/gossip.html I'm not sure what kind of ducks they are, but they're quite pretty. I missed the focus (manual focus lens) and I didn't have my monopod with me, but I

Re: PESO: Cool Flower

2010-06-14 Thread Brian Walters
On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:37 -0700, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: We spent most of today touring a plantation near Charleston, South Carolina. I saw this cool flower in the butterfly enclosure: http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/12530657_Caytz#898767484_xw6j3 Now that's

Re: PESO summer shower

2010-06-14 Thread P N Stenquist
Thanks Jack. The shower is a lawn sprinkler. Grace likes to pretend she's out in the rain with an umbrella. Paul On Jun 13, 2010, at 6:15 PM, Jack Davis wrote: Very nice, Paul! Artfully composed. Jack --- On Sun, 6/13/10, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: From: P N Stenquist

Re: PESO: Cool Flower

2010-06-14 Thread P N Stenquist
On Jun 14, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:37 -0700, Cory Waters cbwat...@bellsouth.net wrote: We spent most of today touring a plantation near Charleston, South Carolina. I saw this cool flower in the butterfly enclosure:

Re: Memory card image recovery programs

2010-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I was using, (I'm looking for a new utility), PC Inspector, it doesn't support PEF or DNG, directly, PEF is just a variation of TIFF. The way it works is that it doesn't effect the card directly but copies what it finds to a folder you specify on your computer. Unfortunately you lose the

Re: Tethered shooting with lightroom 3

2010-06-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There are different types of 'tethered operation'. One implies watching what the camera is doing but controlling the shoot with the camera, then automatically capturing what the camera recorded. Another implies full camera control and live view of what it's seeing. Another implies only that what

OT: An Adobe Photo Shop

2010-06-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Literally. http://www.boingboing.net/2010/06/10/an-adobe-photo-shop.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+boingboing%2FiBag+%28Boing+Boing%29utm_content=Google+Reader -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: Taking Panoramics to the Next Level.

2010-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/14/2010 4:32 AM, Bob W wrote: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/10402/seitz_panoramic_camera/ if it's waterproof you could surf on it. Snow boarding looks more appropo.. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}}

Re: PESO - Gossip

2010-06-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Cotty wrote: On 14/6/10, frank theriault, discombobulated, unleashed: http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/06/gossip.html I'm not sure what kind of ducks they are, but they're quite pretty. I missed the focus (manual focus lens) and I didn't have my monopod with me, but I think it's

Re: Taking Panoramics to the Next Level.

2010-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/14/2010 5:25 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/6/14 Derby Changder...@iinet.net.au: William Robb wrote: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/10402/seitz_panoramic_camera/ William Robb from the sublime to the ridiculous http://microsites.lomography.com/spinner-360/ I can't see me

Re: Memory card image recovery programs

2010-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
I really have to proof read these before I hit send. On 6/14/2010 9:37 AM, P. J. Alling wrote: I was using, (I'm looking for a new utility), PC Inspector, it doesn't support PEF or DNG, directly, PEF is just a variation of TIFF. The way it works is that it doesn't effect the card directly but

RE: PESO - Gossip

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Dont feel bad about calling them ducks (well, I'm sure you don't anyway) about 30 years ago I got a nice grebe shot out in California and at the time incorrectly id'ed him as (gasp) a cormorant! oh, the shame! All grebes aspire to cormoranthood. It's a kind of waterbird Nirvana. --

Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer

2010-06-14 Thread Jack Davis
LOL..Thanks, Steven! Jack --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: From: Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com Subject: Re: PESO: Hunkerd Hummer To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 6:15 AM Great shot.  You must have used a very high

Re: OT: An Adobe Photo Shop

2010-06-14 Thread Jack Davis
That's great! Jack --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: OT: An Adobe Photo Shop To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: Monday, June 14, 2010, 6:37 AM Literally.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Just wait until Africa introduces a common currency... the coins will be fuzzy round the edges @;) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO - Gossip

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: All grebes aspire to cormoranthood. It's a kind of waterbird Nirvana. Mark! Speck! Euro! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and

Re: PESO summer shower

2010-06-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, Lovely picture. Remindes me of 'Singing in the Rain'. You've got to get her a pink piggie umbrella. My 25 year old daughter bought one this weekend. Pig face, snout, and ears stiched onto the umbrella. Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 8:31 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 13/6/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. A sister and two right brothers. Things are starting to fly now. Dave -- Cheers,  Cotty ___/\__ ||  

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 13/6/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. A sister and two right brothers. Things are starting to fly

Re: PESO summer shower

2010-06-14 Thread David J Brooks
Another great one.; Dave On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:56 PM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=11129412size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

OT: Scenes from the Gulf of Mexico

2010-06-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/scenes_from_the_gulf_of_mexico.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Okay then. Kwacha. Free karma points to whoever knows where that coin is used without looking it up. :-) -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/14 eckinator eckina...@gmail.com: 2010/6/14 Ralf R. Radermacher fotor...@gmx.de: Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Just wait until Africa introduces a common currency... the coins will be fuzzy round the edges @;) Not to mention all the curly bits. --

Re: Taking Panoramics to the Next Level.

2010-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
Long in the coming. The article is dated September 2006. :-) 2010/6/14 William Robb war...@gmail.com: http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/10402/seitz_panoramic_camera/ William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE

Fumbles

2010-06-14 Thread David J Brooks
Back in March, whilst taking some night macro shots out back, the strap on my K10D caught in my coat buttons and was pulled from my hand. I managed to, just in time, grab part of the strap and it just barely touched the flagstone patio. In May, the strap managed to get its self caught on the

Re: Fumbles

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com: Time to get rid of the flagstone me thinks. you may want to put your camera into a foam ball instead =) cheers ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: Kwacha. Free karma points to whoever knows where that coin is used without looking it up. :-) It sounds like something that will eventually be sold in a soy macchiato variety, perhaps even with a dash of caramel syrup and the smallest size will be

Re: PAW23 - Doll in Strasbourg

2010-06-14 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Adam Maas wrote: Curious and interesting, great capture. -Adam What Adam said ann On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 4:47 PM, DagT li...@thrane.name wrote: I just came home from a trip, and found this in my memory card: http://www.thrane.name/page3/page7/files/page7-1000-full.html

Re: OT: Scenes from the Gulf of Mexico

2010-06-14 Thread Jack Davis
If George were still in charge he'd have had that cleaned up by now and the Gulf Coast economy humming again. sputter caugh As Rush would say, JUST KIDDING! Jack --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Subject: OT:

Lightroom Mystery #2

2010-06-14 Thread Paul Sorenson
This first manifested itself in LR2 and I can't figure out what it is I've done and/or how to fix it. Some folders of images have ceased to show the readout on the temperature slider in °Kelvin, instead just showing a zero center with minus to the left and positive to the right, similar to

Re: Fumbles

2010-06-14 Thread Jack Davis
That solution (as if you were serious) is sort of like moving your house to tighten your clothesline...as the quip goes. Jack --- On Mon, 6/14/10, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Subject: Fumbles To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net Cc:

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread P. J. Alling
On 6/14/2010 10:23 AM, David J Brooks wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Cottycotty...@mac.com wrote: On 13/6/10, Stan Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: Christine is right about Boris being right about Bill being right. A sister and two right brothers. Things

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Just wait until Africa introduces a common currency... the coins will be fuzzy round the edges @;) re-introduces. The Maria-Theresa thaler was widespread in Africa for centuries. You can still see them used as pendants; I

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Mark! Yen! Drachma! Euro! While we still have it... ;-) Okay then. Kwacha. Free karma points to whoever knows where that coin is used without looking it up. :-) is it related to the pengo? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: re-introduces. The Maria-Theresa thaler was widespread in Africa for centuries. You can still see them used as pendants; I have one which I bought in Ethiopia in 1998, a lovely thing it is. The word 'thaler' evolved into the word 'dollar'. yes but it was

Re: Memory card image recovery programs Gaetan Beauchamp) PDML Digest, Vol 50, Issue 136

2010-06-14 Thread Gaëtan Beauchamp
Hello, I did recover AVI files with success with RescuePRO. Perhaps PEF could also be recover. Good luck! Gaetan Beauchamp - Original Message - From: Bran Everseekingbran.everseek...@sasktel.net To:pdml@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 2:39 AM Subject: Re: Memory card image

Re: OT: Scenes from the Gulf of Mexico

2010-06-14 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Well, he couldn't possibly have done less. Dan On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: If George were still in charge he'd have had that cleaned up by now and the Gulf Coast economy humming again. sputter caugh As Rush would say, JUST KIDDING! Jack -- PDML

OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Gonz
My old desktop PC died, where I had photoshop, scanning software, etc. It was hardly able to keep up with photoshop, and it had a hard time with the new fangled USB 2.0 card reader that I used to read my 8Gb SDHC cards, the previous generation reader was ok, but could not read the SDHC cards. So

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Adam Maas
Depends on what you consider mid-range. My HP HDX16 does just fine with PS CS3 (and probably would be faster with CS4 or CS5 as it's 64-bit capable). It's a Core 2 Duo at 2.166GHz, 4GB RAM with GeForce 9600M video with 512MB VRAM. Pricing's on the higher side of mid-range (a little over $1100CDN

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Gonz
Mid range is something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Pavilion-DV6-2162NR-15-6-Inch-Laptop-Up-Battery/dp/B0031ESWP2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=pcqid=1276534150sr=1-1 On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 11:33 AM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: Depends on what you consider mid-range. My HP HDX16 does just fine

Re: Lightroom Mystery #2

2010-06-14 Thread Charles Robinson
On Jun 14, 2010, at 10:09, Paul Sorenson wrote: This first manifested itself in LR2 and I can't figure out what it is I've done and/or how to fix it. Some folders of images have ceased to show the readout on the temperature slider in °Kelvin, instead just showing a zero center with minus

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Adam Maas
Should do OK, you'll take something of a speed hit due to the shared VRAM, but it's probably comparable in performance overall to my system with its older processor. This is essentially what I have:

Re: Lightroom Mystery #2

2010-06-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Only native raw or DNG files present color temperature in Kelvin degrees and color temperature presets similar to the camera's WB presets. If what you're looking at are TIFF, PSD or JPEG files, none of that information is available to Lightroom. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com --

Re: bizarre lightroom mystery

2010-06-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I am not sure what you did, Christine. Haven't a lot of time so I haven't gone through this whole thread. ... last night I started downloading the holiday shots.  I got four cards downloaded.  I rendered a few frames and exported them as jpegs to my desktop just to get the

RE: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
[...] So my question is: are the newer laptops (mid-range) able to handle photoshop ok? I'm leaning towards laptop, as the portability makes it way more convenient than a desktop. But I fear that they do not have the horsepower of desktops and I will have a difficult time using

Re: Lightroom Mystery #2

2010-06-14 Thread Paul Sorenson
Godfrey Charles - Duh!! I guess I hadn't noticed this since I do mostly DNGs. Don't know why I didn't notice this before on JPGs. Thanks for clearing that up. Now I only feel stupid because I hadn't noticed it before...instead of because I couldn't figure out what I had done that I

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Stan Halpin
General comment on the laptop vs. desktop choice: been there, done that. For many years I used a 15 Macbook Pro as my only computer. Two-three years ago I got a desktop (iMac 20). I needed a newer computer with more RAM and higher speed to handle Lightroom and I wanted the larger higher

Re: Tethered shooting with lightroom 3

2010-06-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
I personally have not used one, but Godfrey's answer here is very complete and gives the information you need. This seems like a good solution for what you are needing. -- Best regards, Bruce Monday, June 14, 2010, 6:35:01 AM, you wrote: GD There are different types of 'tethered operation'.

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
Agreed. Or perhaps you may want to opt for a small, powerful, dockable laptop and a nice big screen and ergonomic keyboard and graphic tablet or mouse at home =) Happy shopping Ecke 2010/6/14 Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info: General comment on the laptop vs. desktop choice: been there,

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Adam Maas
External monitors are your friend. While I can work on the 16 16:9 monitor that's built in, I do most of my editing work when I'm at home with a 21 CRT running at 1836x1392. One of the nice things about HP is they still make docking stations. I've got one so I just need to plug in a single cable

Re: OT: Scenes from the Gulf of Mexico

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: Well, he couldn't possibly have done less. True. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOu_zIiihPI -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: OT: Scenes from the Gulf of Mexico

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/06/scenes_from_the_gulf_of_mexico.html Shocking images BTW but we have noone to blame but ourselves and our desire for cheap fuel and plastic... Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread AlunFoto
2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: re-introduces. The Maria-Theresa thaler was widespread in Africa for centuries. You can still see them used as pendants; I have one which I bought in Ethiopia in 1998, a lovely thing it is. The word 'thaler' evolved into the word 'dollar'. Way back when,

Re: Fumbles

2010-06-14 Thread Bran Everseeking
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 10:57:51 -0400 David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Time to get rid of the flagstone me thinks. Dave or the strap and butter-fingers -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a

K7 at BH

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
The K7 body is down to $764 at BH. The Kx is $518 with the kit lens. This could be a tough decision. As tempting as I find the high iso goodness of Kx , the good metering/exposure of the K7 mihgt prove more useful in the end. Just venting to the only group of people who cares. ;-) -- Steve

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 AlunFoto alunf...@gmail.com: 2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: re-introduces. The Maria-Theresa thaler was widespread in Africa for centuries. You can still see them used as pendants; I have one which I bought in Ethiopia in 1998, a lovely thing it is. The word 'thaler' evolved

Re: Photographing graduations

2010-06-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Most event photography at this point puts the amateur at a big disadvantage. Whether it be sports, graduations, concerts, etc. The name of the game is location, location, location. Basically the contracted pro gets the good location and everyone else gets the crappy locations. I have been on

Re: Photographing graduations

2010-06-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/6/10, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: Because of the lack of location, you probably also saw and experienced the battling for what few positions might be available as the 'loved one' came for the diploma - sort of a running of the bulls - so to speak. I never volunteer to take

Re: K7 at BH

2010-06-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Sucks to have good choices... -- Bruce Monday, June 14, 2010, 10:48:57 AM, you wrote: SD The K7 body is down to $764 at BH. The Kx is $518 with the kit SD lens. This could be a tough decision. As tempting as I find the high SD iso goodness of Kx , the good metering/exposure of the K7

RE: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
General comment on the laptop vs. desktop choice: been there, done that. For many years I used a 15 Macbook Pro as my only computer. Two- three years ago I got a desktop (iMac 20). I needed a newer computer with more RAM and higher speed to handle Lightroom and I wanted the larger higher

RE: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
re-introduces. The Maria-Theresa thaler was widespread in Africa for centuries. You can still see them used as pendants; I have one which I bought in Ethiopia in 1998, a lovely thing it is. The word 'thaler' evolved into the word 'dollar'. Way back when, a monetary unit in Norway

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-14 10:22 , Gonz wrote: So my question is: are the newer laptops (mid-range) able to handle photoshop ok? yes, today's laptops are more powerful than desktops of a few years ago i would say RAM is your biggest concern, GPU second; after that, display size and quality depend on how

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-13 14:20 , Dario Bonazza wrote: This said, I have the feeling that $600.00 a year is way too much for a domain and a host (I spend around $35 a year for mine) and... what else? Is there a costly software license and/or other features to pay? Perhaps I miss something essential here.

Re: K7 at BH

2010-06-14 Thread Rick Womer
$90 less than I paid BH 2 weeks ago. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Mon, 6/14/10, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote: The K7 body is down to $764  at BH.  The Kx is $518 with the kit lens.  This could be a tough decision.  As tempting as I find the high iso goodness of

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Gonz
That was my thought, hook it up to a nice 21/24 display and wireless mouse for photo-editing. Otherwise use the built in screen for everything else. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Adam Maas a...@mawz.ca wrote: External monitors are your friend. While I can work on the 16 16:9 monitor that's

Re: K7 at BH

2010-06-14 Thread Steven Desjardins
From Pentax no less. What is the world coming to? On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Bruce Dayton bkday...@daytonphoto.com wrote: Sucks to have good choices... -- Bruce Monday, June 14, 2010, 10:48:57 AM, you wrote: SD The K7 body is down to $764  at BH.  The Kx is $518 with the kit SD

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread John Francis
The biggest drawback with laptops is the maximum memory configuration; apart from that they are more than good enough for most purposes. My work machine (a Compaq 8710w) supposedly can support 4GB memory sticks, so in theory can support 8GB of memory. But 4GB memory sticks are hard to find (and

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Gonz
Thanks John, good info. So everyone keeps mentioning LightRoom here. Is this preferable to PhotoShop, or an orthogonal product altogether? rg On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:59 PM, John Francis jo...@panix.com wrote: The biggest drawback with laptops is the maximum memory configuration; apart

Re: Photographing graduations

2010-06-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Yes, Put your head up and act like you belong there! Regards, Bob S. On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 14/6/10, Bruce Dayton, discombobulated, unleashed: Because of the lack of location, you probably also saw and experienced the battling for what few positions

Gypsy Horse Fair

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
Some quite nice photos here, with sound, from this year's Horse Fair: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8728149.stm This is one of the things I've been wanting to photograph for years and never get round to (bit like GFM). It's one of the stock events for UK photographers, like Burning Man in

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Adam Maas
4GB DIMMs are remarkably easy to find. Any decent retailer should have a selection. 2x2GB configs are the most common default config from everybody these days so 2x4GB is the most common upgrade. Only low-end machines have 4GB memory limits anymore, anything with a Core 2 or better processor will

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Adam Maas
Different product, preferable to PS for some people as it's got Asset Management capability in addition to RAW conversion and basic editing capabilities. I'd recommend trying it out, but you may not like it. 30 day trial from Adobe, as always. -Adam On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Gonz

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread Fernando
Done On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Paul Sorenson allarou...@earthlink.net wrote: So...how many of us can kick in 20USD and see how far it goes? -p On 6/12/2010 5:04 PM, Doug Brewer wrote: Paul Sorenson wrote: Doug - What kind of operating costs are we looking at?  There should be no

RE: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Bob W
its part of the 'Photoshop Family'. Which means it's related to Photoshop in the way that Michael Corleone is related to Vito Corleone. Bob Thanks John, good info. So everyone keeps mentioning LightRoom here. Is this preferable to PhotoShop, or an orthogonal product altogether? rg On

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread steve harley
On 2010-06-14 12:59 , John Francis wrote: But 4GB memory sticks are hard to find they are easy to find but had been expensive until recently; they've come down in price significantly over the last few months; i bought mine in January when the price finally dropped below $200 each, now they

Re: The State of The List

2010-06-14 Thread eckinator
2010/6/14 Bob W p...@web-options.com: And we should start referring to Neanderdollar Man. Also affectionately referred to as Bucky Newman, then? Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread John Francis
It's somewhat of an orthogonal product. Lightroom is a combination of a very good RAW converter (which also works with JPEGs), and an image organiser. It does non-destructive editing, but is mostly targeted at whole-image adjustments (exposure, colour balance, sharpness, noise reduction, etc.,

Re: Photographing graduations

2010-06-14 Thread Christine Nielsen
These observations are well-timed, as it is the season for all of the end-of-year hoopla for the kiddos. This past weekend, there was a soccer tournament, piano recital and gymnastics meet... and I have a crap-tastic selection of photos to prove it. As the parent in these situations, I also

Re: OT: photog PC hardware opinions

2010-06-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Gonz, I was using PS Elements 5.0 when I switched to Lightroom. Lightroom functions a lot like an old light tray of slides. Library and Develop are my most used modules. Library creates a directory of images you have imported. It lets you pull up a batch of 2 to 50+ slides on a 'light table'. You

Re: Photographing graduations

2010-06-14 Thread Larry Colen
One thing that did help was that with the bigma and the tripod, it seems that more people than not assumed that I was the official photographer. I actually did an end run around a lot of the crowds and wandered to just outside the spectator area, to where the cops were to get a better angle,

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