Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-04 Thread Darren Addy
Nice Don. The dialed to eleven version is not my cup o' tea, but its a gorgeous car. I believe one you photographed is a '52 however. The '53 '54 are a bit more rounded. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: My 1st Car was a '53 Chevy. When I saw this chevy

RE: PESO: (T)high Fashion

2012-06-04 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Something funny and compelling about that photo. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com Sent: June 4, 2012 6/4/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net

Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-04 Thread Jack Davis
I was, also, thinking '52. (?) Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com - Original Message - From: Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday, June

Re: External storage of raw files

2012-06-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 3, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Paul Sorenson wrote: Larry - This workaround works with Windows. Maybe you can come up with a way to do this with the Mac OS. http://vimeo.com/12697388 Thanks. I suspect that the trick will be to just share files on an external drive, and sneakernet the

RE: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-04 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
The hdr version is especially striking. The background was nice to you. It's hard to get a shot of a parked car without some crap getting in the way (wires, lamposts, other cars, pedestrians, ugly backdrop. This one works to make an overall wonderful photo. Cheers, frank What can be asserted

RE: Peso's Holborne-Glover

2012-06-04 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
I agree with Dan. The two stones is especially well composed. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com Sent: June 4, 2012 6/4/12 To: Pentax Discuss pdml@pdml.net,

Re- An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-04 Thread Don Guthrie
As I remember Ken mine took oil by the quart - every week or two. Thanks for the look and yes the HDR is my preferred version. I saw some HDR cars done by Rick Sammon and even though he's a Canon user I did like what he did with cars in Cuba. Respectfully yours ..DG Message: 10 Date:

RE: The Image Deconstructed - NATO protest

2012-06-04 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Very timely and informative. Great interview! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Derby Chang der...@iinet.net.au Sent: June 4, 2012 6/4/12 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject:

Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-04 Thread Don Guthrie
It's only dialed to 9 1/2 ;) but I do respect your position. Yeah my brother agrees this one is a 52. I later owned a Pontiac (with a straight 8) of this same vintage and I may get them confused. My memory gets older every year. Message: 11 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 16:20:06 -0500 From:

Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-04 Thread Don Guthrie
Probably right Jack. All I really remember was the Chevy burned oil and the Pontiac leaked transmission fluid. Thanks for looking. Message: 13 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 14:28:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: An example of

Re: GFM Update

2012-06-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:05 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: None of that stuff was there the two years I made it down to GFM. Really. Dave :-( cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens ---

Re: BESO wood work

2012-06-04 Thread David J Brooks
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 1:18 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: All set for next winter. Well some one is for sure.:-) Its soft Maple, i kept some for kindling, some is going for fire pits and the majority is going to a sugar bush for their boiler. ;-) cheers, frank

Re: PESO - Here's How

2012-06-04 Thread David J Brooks
Excellent Dave On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15851292size=lg -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit

Re: PESO: (T)high Fashion

2012-06-04 Thread David J Brooks
I don't know, i think i would give them an 8 myself. Dave On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15813371size=md Comments are always welcome. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola --

Re: PESO: Struggling Pine

2012-06-04 Thread David J Brooks
Very nice i like the texture and composition here. Dave On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com wrote: Shot near the crest of a high pass through which you enter the eastern gate to Yellowstone NP. A few years ago a person bought a framed print of this from a retail

Re: PESO: Tour of Somerville 4

2012-06-04 Thread David J Brooks
Well done, good pan just the right amount of Frank, er, i mean motion blur. Dave On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15807039size=md Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML

Re: PESO: Struggling Pine

2012-06-04 Thread Jack Davis
Appreciated words, Dave! Thanks! Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com - Original Message - From: David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Monday,

Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-04 Thread Larry Colen
On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Don Guthrie wrote: My 1st Car was a '53 Chevy. When I saw this chevy on the street last week I was glad I had my camera primed and loaded. Two versions - one BW straight out of the camera and the second a more stylized version.

Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-04 Thread Darren Addy
My first car was a 1950 Plymouth Special Deluxe (2 dr. sedan) like this one only black: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacksnell707/3025596031/lightbox/ My grandfather purchased it at a farm auction for $11. We pulled it home, rebuilt the brakes and put a clutch plate in it and I drove it to work

How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Larry Colen
I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them. Then I wondered how much it really matters. I've heard a couple of stops down from wide

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Doug Franklin
On 2012-06-04 18:22, Larry Colen wrote: Then I wondered how much it really matters. I've heard a couple of stops down from wide open, anywhere between f/8 and f/16, and a couple other rules of thumb. I do know that on some lenses, particularly the FA50/1.4, that stopping it down a couple

Re: External storage of raw files

2012-06-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I suspect that the trick will be to just share files on an external drive, and sneakernet the catalog. Just put the Lightrom catalog folder on the same hard drive as the image files and be sure that the drive has been

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: optimizing aperture for sharpness is not the most productive place to spend my time and energy. Mark! Apologies for taking that out of context. :-)  That I'm generally best optimizing the aperture for the picture, and not

Re: iPad rendering fun

2012-06-04 Thread Igor Roshchin
My question is why? (besides just because it's fun/cool or as a proof of concept)? Does it provide any advantages over the laptop/desktop-based applications? Just because one can play tetris on a programmable calculator, it doesn't make that calculator a typical gaming platform. Igor On Sun,

Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-04 Thread Bruce Walker
As a curious (perhaps pointless) counter-example: I've got some software on oiled paper-tape that is going to outlast the DC600 tapes, floppies, CDs, DVDs and harddrives that it's been migrated to over the years. Not that there's going to be much actual call for my copies of PDP8/e Focal or OS8.

Re: iPad rendering fun

2012-06-04 Thread Christine Aguila
Well, it's great to have the iPad when you're not near a desktop or laptop like when you're traveling. The iPad doesn't replace serious desk top darkroom workflow; it's just a fun supplement to the workflow. On Jun 4, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: My question is

Re: iPad rendering fun

2012-06-04 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks, Don! Cheers, Christine On Jun 4, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: I agree fun is the word. Although the results like the ones you posted are sometimes better than the equipment and processing would indicate. Art through technology. Message: 7

Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-04 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com: My 1st Car was a '53 Chevy. When I saw this chevy on the street last week I was glad I had my camera primed and loaded. Two versions - one BW straight out of the camera and the second a more stylized version.

Re: PESO: (T)high Fashion

2012-06-04 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com: http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15813371size=md Comments are always welcome. Any chance they were designed by Marc Newson? -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia

Re: iPad rendering fun

2012-06-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:03 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote: My question is why? (besides just because it's fun/cool or as a proof of concept)? Does it provide any advantages over the laptop/desktop-based applications? Just because one can play tetris on a programmable calculator,

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread David Savage
I never really spent too much time worrying about researching the sweet spot. I just chose the aperture that gave me the DoF I wanted. That said, with the D800's stupidly high resolution, it really pays to hit the sweet spot. DS On 5 June 2012 06:53, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: PESO: Struggling Pine

2012-06-04 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Jack Davis jdavi...@yahoo.com: Shot near the crest ofnbsp;a high passnbsp;through whichnbsp;you enternbsp;the eastern gate to Yellowstone NP. A few years ago anbsp;person bought a framed print of thisnbsp;from anbsp;retail display at a localnbsp;photo shop. Anbsp;few days later

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread David Parsons
If you can find the MTF charts for each lens, it will tell you all you need to know about what aperture it is sharpest at. On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying to do some research into what

Re: Peso's Holborne-Glover

2012-06-04 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting knarftheria...@gmail.com: I agree with Dan. The two stones is especially well composed. I agree with Frank. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ --- Original Message --- From: David

Re: PESO: Struggling Pine

2012-06-04 Thread steve harley
on 2012-06-04 9:05 Jack Davis wrote Shot near the crest of a high pass through which you enter the eastern gate to Yellowstone NP. A few years ago a person bought a framed print of this from a retail display at a local photo shop. A few days later she was back declaring it positively spiritual

Re: PESO: Struggling Pine

2012-06-04 Thread Jack Davis
It appeared to be somewhat crowded at the base. Also, it seemed shy of limbs for it's height. May be a moisture thing. In due time, I imagine it will have to bend upon contact the granite rock face. Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis

Re: PESO: Struggling Pine

2012-06-04 Thread Jack Davis
Thanks, Brian! From time to time I've wondered what became of it. Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com - Original Message - From: Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org To: Pentax-Discuss Mail

How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread luiz felipe
Larry's ideas: I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them. Then I wondered how much it really matters. I've heard a couple of

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Mark C
On 6/4/2012 6:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying to do some research into what the aperture sweet spot is for each lens, and was wondering if anyone had already made a chart of them. Then I wondered how much it really matters.

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Jeffery Smith
F/5.6 and be there. Sent from my iPad Jeffery L. Smith New Orleans, Louisiana USA On Jun 4, 2012, at 19:05, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: On 6/4/2012 6:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote: I was thinking about my quest for sharpness, and was considering trying to do some research into what the

RE: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread J.C. O'Connell
In theory a perfect lens would be sharpest wide open, so a really good lens would be sharpest close to wide open. If it takes 4 or 5 stops to sharpen up a lens, its probably not that great. As for good rules of thumb, I find f5.6 or f8 to usually work pretty damn good -

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Paul Stenquist
The optimum aperture does make a noticeable difference in sharpness with most good glass, but using it shouldn't overrule your DOF needs. With the K-5, you can set your program mode to choose the MTF aperture when you push the green button. On the new DA* zooms, it comes early -- f4 in many

Re: GESO - Spring Odes Part II

2012-06-04 Thread Mark C
On 6/3/2012 10:15 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Another superb set. The twin-spotted spike tail is my favorite. Gorgeous critter that. Paul On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Mark C wrote: Thanks, Paul - those spiketails are big - a good 4 inches long. MCC -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

Re: GESO - Spring Odes Part II

2012-06-04 Thread Mark C
On 6/3/2012 10:37 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Another stunning gallery. Until recently I thought they were all just dragonflies. I had no idea there were so many different species and that they varied so much in shape and colouration. Amazing! cheers, frank Thanks Frank! I think

Re: PDML statistics

2012-06-04 Thread Steven Desjardins
Works either way. ;-) On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:30 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Steven Desjardins I plan to post seven stupid things a a day.  OK, seven extra stupid things a day. Does extra parse with seven or with stupid? On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 7:44 PM, steve

Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-04 Thread William Robb
On 04/06/2012 9:23 AM, Bipin Gupta wrote: Why not use archival quality Blu Ray Discs. You could burn two or more and disperse them to family/friends for safe keeping just in case . For those still in the DVD era, archival quality scratch proof coated discs are available in over 8 GB

Re: PESO: (T)high Fashion

2012-06-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks for looking Frank, David and Brian. I don't know about Marc Newsom, but they sure weren't designed by Jonathan Ive! Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Daniel J. Matyola

Re: PESO: Tour of Somerville 4

2012-06-04 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, David. G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola Thn On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 5:57 PM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Well done, good pan just the right amount of Frank, er, i mean motion blur. Dave On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:04 AM, Daniel J. Matyola

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Don't forget that at about f8 diffraction effects will begin to rear it's ugly head. So if your maximum aperture is 4.0 diffraction will start to steal sharpness using that two stops down rule of thumb. It's worse the shorter the lens gets as the actual physical aperture is what controls

Re: PESO - Droplets

2012-06-04 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Yeah. Flowers. Sometimes ya just need a break from all that gritty, grimy street stuff... ;-) Thanks to all who commented and looked! cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: David J Brooks

RE: Subject: PESO - The New Book

2012-06-04 Thread knarftheria...@gmail.com
Thanks, Don. There certainly is something appealing about a dad and his child looking at a book together. Glad you enjoyed. Thanks to all who looked and commented. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Boris Liberman
IMO in this kind of discussion it just might be useful to play the role of devil's advocate. Most of my shooting not for my own pleasure is for Galia's class. When it started I was obsessed with technical quality - sharpness, etc. As time goes by, I am starting to understand that slightly

Re: External Storage of RAW Files

2012-06-04 Thread Boris Liberman
On 6/5/2012 05:38, William Robb wrote: I've read reports of archival blue rays failing within startlingly short periods of time, and cloud storage is only as long lived as the company running the facility. IIRC, recently there was a cloud storage company in the USA that got shut down by the feds

Re: How much difference does optimizing the aperture make?

2012-06-04 Thread Fernando
I personally know by memory for the prime lenses I used the most, and out of personal experimentation in real world shooting -just because I like to know- although P mode with MTF program will get you there easily. For the non-chip lenses I guess a couple of clicks from wide open. The ones for me

Re: An example of timeless design and style

2012-06-04 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Lovely car. I love the BW rendering. The HDR makes me wince a little bit, not my style. G On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:19 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com: My 1st Car was a '53 Chevy. When I saw this chevy on the street last week I was

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