Fwd: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Larry Colen
Begin forwarded message: From: Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com Subject: Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off. Date: April 27, 2014 at 1:52:14 PM PDT To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Far as I'm concerned, Paul, Chrysler

Re: K 3 Question

2014-04-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
But you can switch back and forth between focal point selection and menu choices by pushing the little button to the right of the 4-way controller. Paul On Apr 27, 2014, at 11:53 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: Thanks Paul Mark. What I finbally figured out was the when you have

Re: Seeking advice on a shot

2014-04-28 Thread steve harley
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014, at 3:04, Larry Colen wrote: 870, 872 and 875 in this set: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157644355302375/ the waterfall itself, from what i can see, seems unphotogenic, but i like the abstractness of the pondscum/bubbles; i am looking on a small screen so

Re: Seeking advice on a shot

2014-04-28 Thread Stanley Halpin
On 28 Apr 2014, at 01:02, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Apr 27, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Richard Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: Larry, what's going on with the surface of the water? Is it the rock showing through or is there some sort of revolting scum floating on it? There is a

PESO: Riverine Bush Encroachment

2014-04-28 Thread Alan C
The vegetation in Larry's waterfall shots prompted me to take this one but I had only to walk 50m into the unkempt park alongside my house. 20 years ago it was well maintained, good enough for a Sunday afternoon picnic. Not any more, though. It now looks like it must have been 50 years ago. The

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread steve harley
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014, at 0:01, Tim Bray wrote: Color me old-fashioned, but I think people paying more for less is a news story. When one observes anomalous behavior, it’s reasonable to bring attention to it, because things that don’t fit into one’s understanding of the world are educational

Re: PESO: Riverine Bush Encroachment

2014-04-28 Thread Jack Davis
I believe that's the home of an 8' spider that almost got Tarzan back in 1944. Jack - Original Message - From: Alan C c...@lantic.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 7:37:50 AM Subject: PESO: Riverine Bush Encroachment The vegetation in Larry's

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread steve harley
On Sat, Apr 26, 2014, at 15:17, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: The Barnack is now an *expensive* historic novelty, Paul. ;-) The Audi vs Mercedes thing is interesting … Far as I've seen, ten year old Audis are often too expensive to repair and keep running, seldom seen on the road, while there seem

Re: Seeking advice on a shot

2014-04-28 Thread Jack Davis
I think it needs a primary element. I'd try getting low on the near side of the larger boulder, dialing in a small aperture and shooting the boulder to right of center and include a bit of water on the left. Available texture would be important on the boulder. It needs an anchor and that

Peso. Norman ponders

2014-04-28 Thread David J Brooks
Taken this past weekend. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17749558 K-5 with Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: PESO: Dogwood

2014-04-28 Thread Don Guthrie
Like this close-up. Pretty informative. Our Mags haven't opened yet Dogwood either. +pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 01:36:44 -0400 From: Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Dogwood Message-ID:

Re: PESO - Blossoms and Doorway

2014-04-28 Thread Don Guthrie
Nice composition contrasting flowers brickwork. Might work in BW. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 10 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 09:22:34 -0400 From: Rick Womerrickpic...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Blossoms and Doorway

Re:GESO: blossoms

2014-04-28 Thread Don Guthrie
Yes. But then again my garden has no blossoms,only cold wet dirt so I cannot judge. Not that I am jealous or anything. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 5 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 14:03:37 -0700 From: Tim Braytb...@textuality.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: GESO:

Re: PDML Digest, Vol 96, Issue 157

2014-04-28 Thread Don Guthrie
Message: 9 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 17:12:55 -0400 From: Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO - Reading and Aramark, or Old and New Message-ID: 277cb541-8829-4bdc-82a8-309d725ab...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Re:PESO: Liberty in Excess

2014-04-28 Thread Don Guthrie
Liberty for sale in NY...the scandal. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 20:04:32 -0400 From: Daniel J. Matyoladanmaty...@gmail.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail Listpdml@pdml.net Subject: PESO: Liberty in Excess Message-ID:

Re: PESO: Dogwood

2014-04-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Don Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Like this close-up. Pretty informative. Our Mags haven't opened yet Dogwood either. +pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 1 Date: Sat, 26

Re: PESO: Riverine Bush Encroachment

2014-04-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Wow, that is really overgrown. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: The vegetation in Larry's waterfall shots prompted me to take this one but I had only to walk 50m into the unkempt park alongside my

Re: Peso. Norman ponders

2014-04-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I don't like cat photos, but that is a very fine image. :The way you use the leaves one the one side and the brightly lit curtain on the other frames the beast nicely, while the nick-knacks and the glimpse of the outside world add interest and context, If you would only substitute a dog for the

Re: PESO: Liberty in Excess

2014-04-28 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
G Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Don Guthrie shark50...@gmail.com wrote: Liberty for sale in NY...the scandal. pdml-requ...@pdml.net wrote: Message: 3 Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 20:04:32 -0400 From: Daniel J.

Re: PESO: Riverine Bush Encroachment

2014-04-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 28 Apr 2014, at 15:39, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote: The vegetation in Larry's waterfall shots prompted me to take this one but I had only to walk 50m into the unkempt park alongside my house. 20 years ago it was well maintained, good enough for a Sunday afternoon picnic. Not any more,

Re: Peso. Norman ponders

2014-04-28 Thread Richard Womer
I like it, for all the reasons Dan does. I guess the snowman/snow globe is there because you miss winter already… Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Taken this past weekend.

Re: PESO - Blossoms and Doorway

2014-04-28 Thread Richard Womer
I'm afraid I don't know, Dan. http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 8:25 PM, Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com wrote: Very nice, Rick. What kind of blossoms are they? Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Rick

Re: PESO - Reading and Aramark, or Old and New

2014-04-28 Thread Richard Womer
Thanks, Bob. It doesn't look appetizing, for sure. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Rick, That is quite a contrast. After your comments, I can't help thinking the Aramark building looks like a prison. Regards,

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Ken Waller
In my circles Chrysler has been known for many engineering break-throughs most of which fell short in the execution. But please, let's not divert from the entertaining Leica bashing. :-) it's somewhat closer to the supposed topic of this forum. And here I thought the supposed topic of this

Re: K 3 Question

2014-04-28 Thread Ken Waller
But you can switch back and forth between focal point selection and menu choices by pushing the little button .to the right of the 4-way controller. Thanks Paul - that was the kind of interplay I was hoping for. My previous K20D kinda spoiled me after all these years - I got very familiar

Re: The Saga Continues

2014-04-28 Thread John
Just a little update ... I managed to get the malware off my computer without resorting to FDISK starting all over again. Took some aggressive hunting to find all of the instances where it had it's hooks into my browser, including apparently it installed itself into Internet Exploder, so I had

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Jack Davis
As I was growing up, actually not that far up, the mantra for all Chrysler products was they have a Body by Fisher. That always resulted in head nodding and general agreement that was enough to recommend them. Them being, Plymouth, Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler. Someone always had to add: ya know,

OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread Bruce Walker
A close reading of US copyright law indicates that none of the parties who acquired Maier’s negatives from the storage warehouse or afterward -- and are publishing them now without her written permission -- have a legal right to do so. None of the current publishers hold copyright to her

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread Darren Addy
On the other hand, anyone could have purchased the undeveloped film and unprinted negatives at auction (presumably part of the settling of her estate) and flushed them down the toilet with all the rights in the world. Tempest, meet teapot. I think I know which I think is more ethical. On Mon,

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread John
I thought Body by Fisher was GM? On 4/28/2014 4:21 PM, Jack Davis wrote: As I was growing up, actually not that far up, the mantra for all Chrysler products was they have a Body by Fisher. That always resulted in head nodding and general agreement that was enough to recommend them. Them

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Ken Waller
'Body by Fisher' was always associated with General Motors cars in my experience. Now, do you have some idea of how long I've existed? At least as long as me! Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Jack Davis jdavi...@comcast.net

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yep. Fisher is a division of GM. It has its roots in a coach building company that was founded more than 100 years ago. Back in the day they also built bodies for Hudson, Packard and a few others, but not Chrysler. On Apr 28, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: 'Body by

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread John
I would find the article a whole lot more interesting if they weren't asking me to pay $220 to read it. Does raise an interesting question though. Who controls your estate if you have no heirs? On 4/28/2014 4:24 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: A close reading of US copyright law indicates that none of

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Paul Stenquist
But you’re a Ford guy. Some Chrysler innovations worked out well, including power convertible tops, automatic overdrive systems, power windows, power steering and alternators to name a few. On Apr 28, 2014, at 3:43 PM, Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote: In my circles Chrysler has been

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
Does this mean we have to give our books back? I like this phrase: [...] her gaze ranged as far as South Asia and North Africa. [...] I'm going to use that for my next holiday snaps. P.S. Great pun. Much to be adMaiered. B On 28 Apr 2014, at 21:25, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 28 Apr 2014, at 21:42, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: I would find the article a whole lot more interesting if they weren't asking me to pay $220 to read it. Does raise an interesting question though. Who controls your estate if you have no heirs? In the UK the estate passes to the

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Ken Waller
Your're correct Paul - they eventually sorted out the issues - and they did lead to advances in the industry - my comments were directed to initial implementation. Ford for the most part lagged in industry innovations as far as automotive components were concerned. Kenneth Waller

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Sorry about that, John. They must have changed the access rights just minutes ago. I followed the URL from a posting on LinkedIn and read the entire article. I even had the option to download the PDF (didn't bother though). That's how I was able to scrape that quote. BTW, they only want $39 for a

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 28, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Yep. Fisher is a division of GM. It has its roots in a coach building company that was founded more than 100 years ago. Back in the day they also built bodies for Hudson, Packard and a few others, but not Chrysler.

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Here's my own anecdotal rebuttal to the bad Audi suggestion. I drive in the Greater Toronto Area where the city's answer to all winter road issues is to liberally apply raw rock salt to everything. Cars don't generally last very long here unless stored under a tarp in a sealed garage. I just came

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Tim Bray
If we’re doing Audi-by-anecdote, ours (A4 station wagon, 3L engine, manual) is model year 2003 and remains a treat. We have a good relationship with a non-dealer mechanic and yeah, end up writing him a noticeable check every year or two. Only problem is, it’s a gas eater. The Audi dealership

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Jack Davis
Your right, of course, John. Chrysler was Briggs body, if I'm not mistaken...again. J - Original Message - From: John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:30:40 PM Subject: Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off. I

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Jack Davis
How about Briggs instead of Fisher? J - Original Message - From: Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:33:56 PM Subject: Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off. 'Body by Fisher' was always associated with

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Jack Davis
Yeah, I muffed it. Should have been Body by Briggs J - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 1:40:38 PM Subject: Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off. Yep. Fisher is a division of

Re: Peso. Norman ponders

2014-04-28 Thread David J Brooks
Na, we just dont put stuff away very fast Dave On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 2:23 PM, Richard Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: I like it, for all the reasons Dan does. I guess the snowman/snow globe is there because you miss winter already… Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW On Mon, Apr 28,

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread Darren Addy
Not to mention that Museum Ethics is an oxymoron. On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry about that, John. They must have changed the access rights just minutes ago. I followed the URL from a posting on LinkedIn and read the entire article. I even had

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread steve harley
on 2014-04-28 14:24 Bruce Walker quoted: A close reading of US copyright law indicates that none of the parties who acquired Maier’s negatives from the storage warehouse or afterward -- and are publishing them now without her written permission -- have a legal right to do so. my quibble with

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Here's an earlier article covering much of the same topic that you _can_ actually read ... http://gapersblock.com/ac/2013/08/13/the-curious-case-of-vivian-maiers-copyright/ This Facebook posting has an interesting comment thread too ...

Re: Peso. Norman ponders

2014-04-28 Thread Mark C
Nice photo - Norman looks like he is contemplating mischief On 4/28/2014 11:55 AM, David J Brooks wrote: Taken this past weekend. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17749558 K-5 with Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Peso. Norman ponders

2014-04-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Good portrait of a very handsome cat, Dave. On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 11:55 AM, David J Brooks pentko...@gmail.com wrote: Taken this past weekend. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17749558 K-5 with Sigma 17-70 f2.8-4 Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread Mark C
I don't think that there is anything new here. If you buy a painting you own the object itself. You don't own the right to duplicate the painting and sell the reproductions. Same with the negatives and slides, though in the US I think it would be fair use to print negatives that you bought for

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread steve harley
on 2014-04-28 18:29 Mark C wrote Same with the negatives and slides, though in the US I think it would be fair use to print negatives that you bought for your own personal use, but not to sell. (And who would know or care if you did that.) could get tricky — if you print for your own use and

OT - Instagram users fight the square

2014-04-28 Thread Bruce Walker
Okay, like me you probably don't give a rat's ass about Instagram, but it is a source of amusement from time to time. And this has gotta be worth a chuckle. Apparently, there's a movement that is letterboxing their shots to preserve their original aspect ratio and uploading -- gasp! -- non-square

Re: PESO - Stairwell #3

2014-04-28 Thread Richard Womer
Thanks, Mark! It's odd... I've been taking those stairs (or similar ones) for over 20 years, and it was only a couple of weeks ago that this composition struck me. Rick On Apr 27, 2014, at 9:13 PM, Mark C wrote: Nice abstraction - good find! On 4/24/2014 10:42 PM, Rick Womer wrote: I

PESO - Center City Alley

2014-04-28 Thread Rick Womer
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17742772size=lg or http://gallery.photo.net/photo/17742772-lg.jpg (K-5, FA 24-90) Comments? Rick -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link

Re: OT: The Leica T succeeds in pissing me off.

2014-04-28 Thread Mark C
Reminds me of the golden towers of the Fisher Building - AM radio when I was a kid. On 4/28/2014 4:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: Yep. Fisher is a division of GM. It has its roots in a coach building company that was founded more than 100 years ago. Back in the day they also built bodies for

Re: OT - Instagram users fight the square

2014-04-28 Thread Bruce
I guess I just became hip as I have been doing that for quite a long time. -- Bruce (the hipster) Sent from my iPad On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, like me you probably don't give a rat's ass about Instagram, but it is a source of amusement

Re: The Saga Continues

2014-04-28 Thread Mark C
Glad that you got the maleware off your PC. I fired up my XP Box today to do some scanning and was surprised when AVG ran a background scan and reported a trojan buried in on of system directories... I've been offline for almost a month now but did update AVG just before I pulled the network

Re: OT - Instagram users fight the square

2014-04-28 Thread steve harley
on 2014-04-28 18:57 Bruce Walker wrote Heh! Unhip is the new hip. oh shit, my unhip gig is spoiled -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

Re: OT - an ethical and legal quag-Maier

2014-04-28 Thread Bill
On 28/04/2014 3:53 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Not to mention that Museum Ethics is an oxymoron. Every museum curator that I have known (admittedly only a dozen or so), has had a very strong sense of ethics. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: OT - Instagram users fight the square

2014-04-28 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Me too - but not on instagram. ann On 4/28/2014 22:26, Bruce wrote: I guess I just became hip as I have been doing that for quite a long time. -- Bruce (the hipster) Sent from my iPad On Apr 28, 2014, at 5:57 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, like me you probably don't

Re: Peso. Norman ponders

2014-04-28 Thread David Mann
That's what I thought... should I eat the plant, claw the curtain or knock this fragile-looking thing off? On Apr 29, 2014, at 12:18 pm, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Nice photo - Norman looks like he is contemplating mischief On 4/28/2014 11:55 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Re: OT - Instagram users fight the square

2014-04-28 Thread P.J. Alling
Instagram was never really hip. It was hiplike. Sort of like lifelike is to life. On 4/28/2014 8:57 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: Okay, like me you probably don't give a rat's ass about Instagram, but it is a source of amusement from time to time. And this has gotta be worth a chuckle.

Re: PESO - Center City Alley

2014-04-28 Thread Bob W-PDML
Very nice indeed. The silhouetted figure reminds me of the saying that if you were to shave a Neanderthal and dress him in a suit and tie he could walk our city streets unnoticed. B On 29 Apr 2014, at 02:40, Rick Womer rickpic...@gmail.com wrote: