Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-16 Thread Boris Liberman
Paul, On 1/16/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I couldn't get by with such a tight FOV. I frequently have to shoot > rooms and car interiors. 18 mm on APS can't handle that, but the DA > 12-24 does it nicely. > Paul I most definitely agree with you. OTOH I don't think I ever photog

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-16 Thread Paul Stenquist
I couldn't get by with such a tight FOV. I frequently have to shoot rooms and car interiors. 18 mm on APS can't handle that, but the DA 12-24 does it nicely. Paul On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:28 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: > Diff'rent strokes indeed. > > Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: >> I couple the DA14 wi

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-15 Thread Boris Liberman
Diff'rent strokes indeed. Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: > I couple the DA14 with the FA20-35 and DA21, Paul, so the wide field > coverage is nicely covered for my uses. I love the DA14's field of > view, but even with that I use the FA20-35 at 28-35mm much more than > I use it at 20mm, and I use t

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-15 Thread Russell Kerstetter
my two cents... I have not compared like you are asking for but... I do have the 18-55, which whenever I get a better lens I will most likely keep as a backup. The cost of a new one from B&H is around $100 US, plus almost everyone that buys a new camera will have one, so I doubt that the effort

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-15 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 02:04:26AM -0500, Paul Stenquist wrote: > The kit lens is relatively worthless, due to the number available. > Put it on the shelf for the day you sell the camera. I think it's a little better than that. I've got one as a stop-gap until the DA* 16-50/f2.8 is available, b

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-15 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul, I bought a 18-55 from a list member and put it on the DS which my wife is using. The package handles a lot 'smaller' than the K10D with the 16-45, and the results look just fine for a walk-about lens. Regards, Bob S. On 1/15/07, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > ( > I should clarify,

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-15 Thread Thibouille
I don't own the 16-45 although I'm considering buying it but I own the 18-55 and I must say it is a very honest lens. Sure it is cheap slow consumer zoom but it does its job more than well. I use it with the 50-200 in my "every day" photos and I'm quite satisfied with it. It is also very lightweig

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-15 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
I couple the DA14 with the FA20-35 and DA21, Paul, so the wide field coverage is nicely covered for my uses. I love the DA14's field of view, but even with that I use the FA20-35 at 28-35mm much more than I use it at 20mm, and I use the DA21 a LOT. The FA20-35 nets nearly prime quality perf

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-15 Thread Paul
Thanks Brian. Regards, Paul On 15/01/2007, at 8:41 PM, Brian Dunn wrote: > > My particular 16-45 is quite a bit sharper than the 18-55 at 28mm, > and they > are comparable in sharpness at 50mm. The 16-45 has noticably > better contrast > at either focal length. > > The 16-45 also has compa

18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-15 Thread Brian Dunn
My particular 16-45 is quite a bit sharper than the 18-55 at 28mm, and they are comparable in sharpness at 50mm. The 16-45 has noticably better contrast at either focal length. The 16-45 also has comparable sharpness and better contrast than an M 28 f2.8 prime which I have here. The 16-45 se

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-15 Thread Paul
Hi, ( I should clarify, i already own the 16-45 also and i own the 14mm and have primes that cover this range, i think the difference between the wide ends of the zooms wouldnt bother me that much. I was more curious about the optical qualities of the 18-55 compared to the 16-45, I'm really

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
The kit lens is relatively worthless, due to the number available. Put it on the shelf for the day you sell the camera. If you already own a wide lens, like the DA 14/2.8 or the A 15/3.5, you're probably okay for the most part. if you don't, you may want to add the DA 12-24/4. If that's too

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
The FA 20-35 is a fine lens. I owned one at one time, but it became redundant so I sold it. Of course it's no substitute for its wider brethren. In 35 mm FOV it's 30mm at the wide end, while the DA 16-45 is 24mm -- a huge difference. But for wide zooms, the DA 12-24/ 4 is the clear winner.

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-14 Thread Bruce Dayton
Hmmm...we've heard a similar question several times. I have both of them now since I got the 18-55 with my K10D. Things to think about: 16-45 is more like a 24-70 for film 18-55 is more like a 28-80 for film So there is a noticeable difference between the 16 and 18mm on the wide end. Also the 1

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The DA18-55 never interested me as I didn't like its rendering qualities very much and felt it was usually just a bit too slow for my desires. I had the 16-45 for a bit ... it's a fine performer, the weight and balance are a bit funky, as is the zoom operation. The zoom in this range that I

Re: 18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-14 Thread Mike Hamilton
You won't get much for the 18-55 on eBay. $80, I'd guess, but i haven't checked the completed auctions. Personally, I'd keep it. If you ever sell the K10D, having the kit lens makes it easier and boosts the value. Also, having an all-purpose zoom is nice on occaision. If you dont' use zooms in

18-55 vs 16-45?

2007-01-14 Thread Paul
Hi, Just wondering if any one has compared the 16-45 to the 18-55, As an 18-55 came with my K10D, but i havent opened it yet as i was going to seel it on Ebay, but i dont really like the size of the 16-45 and am wondering if i should just keep the 18-55. I dont really use zooms a whole lot in

Re: Compare 18-55 vs 16-45?

2005-03-21 Thread Powell Hargrave
Thanks Dario. I will not be rushing out to get the superior, but not that much, 16-45. If I can afford it the DA 12-24mm will be finding a happy home here. The 18-55 has more CR at 18mm which is easy to correct in CS-RAW. This improves the sharpness a bit too. The slight barrel distortion at 18

Re: Compare 18-55 vs 16-45?

2005-03-21 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
My comparison is based on what I see through the viewfinder when I fit the two lenses in succession. I do not own the 18-55. The DA18-55/3.5-5.6 always appears lower in contrast and darker then the DA16-45/4. The 16-45 is easier to focus manually, even at 16mm focal length. Godfrey

Re: Compare 18-55 vs 16-45?

2005-03-21 Thread Dave Kennedy
Excellent, Thank you Dario, that is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks again. DaveK On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:14:14 +0100, Dario Bonazza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Dave, > > You wrote: > > > Has anyone actually done a side-by-side comparison of the 2 lenses? I > > currently have the ki

Re: Compare 18-55 vs 16-45?

2005-03-21 Thread Dario Bonazza
Hi Dave, You wrote: Has anyone actually done a side-by-side comparison of the 2 lenses? I currently have the kit 18-55 lens with my DS, but I'm wondering what I'm missing (other than the obvious width), by not having the 16-45. You're mainly missing the obvious width and something at edges (when st

Compare 18-55 vs 16-45?

2005-03-21 Thread Dave Kennedy
I've read alot of comments/recommendations to go to the 16-45 rather than the 18-55 over the past few months. Has anyone actually done a side-by-side comparison of the 2 lenses? I currently have the kit 18-55 lens with my DS, but I'm wondering what I'm missing (other than the obvious width), by no