Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-03 Thread Albano Garcia
Thanks for existing, Mike Regards Albano --- Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many years ago, someone told me that brown belts make better karate instructors than black belts because the brown belts still remember and can still describe what they do. For the black belts, on the

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-03 Thread Pål Jensen
It doesn't matter whether rules are instinctive or not. There are rules because people who do not apply them instinctively improve considerably when starting to apply them. This has been proven without doubt. Therefore there are rules or this would have impossible. Whether you call them rules,

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-03 Thread Ed Matthew
In my book, this is worth keeping. Ed --- Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many years ago, someone told me that brown belts make better karate instructors than black belts because the brown belts still remember and can still describe what they do. For the black belts, on the

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-03 Thread Pål Jensen
Ed cited: --- Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fact is, nobody can possibly name a single rule of thumb a) such that it will usefully improve pictures in all situations where it can be applied But this just another straw argument as no one has suggested that such a universal

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 7:49:35 AM, you wrote: The fact is, nobody can possibly name a single rule of thumb a) such that it will usefully improve pictures in all situations where it can be applied and b) such that pictures which do not conform to the rule will not be strong or

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread Herb Chong
Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike, I don't believe anybody has made these claims during this discussion. On the contrary, people have repeatedly pointed out the ambiguity in the word 'rule' and warned against misinterpreting it. But you've continued wilfully to misrepresent

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread T Rittenhouse
You do write well, Mike. That is partly because you do it a lot and are in practice. When someone does anything a lot, and is not burned out and uncaring about the results, they usually do it well. That certainly goes for photography. When I am in practice my photography is good. I never use

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread Pentxuser
Mike you obviously don't get the point here that I and others have been trying to make. This e-mail suggests to me that you obviously know the rules. These rules, being generalized, have to be broad. Thus they are things like the eye must have a way into the picture, so don't cut off the

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread Ken Archer
I specialize in pictures of hunting retrievers and their handlers at hunt tests and field trials. There aren't any schools that teach you how to do what I do. There aren't any books or photographers, for that matter, that teach hunting dog photography. I am self-taught (another example of

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread Pentxuser
Hi Frank: Thanks for your response. Sitting on the fence is often a good thing at least you are looking at both sides before you jump. Actually, let's look at it from that perspective. If a photographer takes the time to learn the guidelines of composition we'll call them (rules) they can then

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread Mike Johnston
The fact is, nobody can possibly name a single rule of thumb a) such that it will usefully improve pictures in all situations where it can be applied and b) such that pictures which do not conform to the rule will not be strong or successful or good or whatever positive word you want to use.

Re[2]: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Wednesday, January 1, 2003, 8:20:06 PM, you wrote: The fact is, nobody can possibly name a single rule of thumb a) such that it will usefully improve pictures in all situations where it can be applied and b) such that pictures which do not conform to the rule will not be strong or

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread Paul Stenquist
I guess it depends on how good an eye one has. Some people have an innate ability to design beautiful images. Others struggle. For the latter, the rules can help. And sometimes they can lead to a realization of innate abilities. Cameras tend to confuse new photographers. The focusing fresnel or

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it depends on how good an eye one has. Some people have an innate ability to design beautiful images. Others struggle. For the latter, the rules can help. And sometimes they can lead to a realization of innate abilities. Cameras tend to confuse new

Re: Are the rules simply instinctive?

2003-01-01 Thread Bruce Rubenstein
There was an article in the NY Times several years ago about a study done by some art historians. A large number of portraits were analyzed and it was discovered that a vast majority of them painted with one of the subjects eye's on, or near, the vertical centerline of the picture. It wasn't a

Are the rules simply instinctive?

2002-12-31 Thread Mike Johnston
Many years ago, someone told me that brown belts make better karate instructors than black belts because the brown belts still remember and can still describe what they do. For the black belts, on the other hand, the techniques have become instinctive, and the beginners' details now seem hard