Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-22 Thread Lon Williamson
One must remember, as much as we love Herb (well, I like him!) that 16 bit might be overkill. I've done the tests. I like 8 bit. Joseph Tainter wrote: Herb wrote: i'm surprised you see any difference. that isn't the point. the point is that 8-bit mode allows you a few manipulations before you

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-22 Thread George Sinos
A number of people have commented on 16 or 8 bits with respect to RAW file conversion: The current issue of Photo Techniques Magazine has an excellent article written by Norman Koren on getting the most from a RAW file. While the article is not available on line, here is a link to the

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-18 Thread Joseph Tainter
Herb wrote: i'm surprised you see any difference. that isn't the point. the point is that 8-bit mode allows you a few manipulations before you see artifacts. 16-bit mode allows you quite a bit more before that starts to happen. Thanks, Herb. I wasn't aware of that. I may now try more 16-bit

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-18 Thread Herb Chong
bringing up shadow detail is where the difference is most noticeable. Herb - Original Message - From: Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2004 12:41 PM Subject: Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file? Herb wrote: i'm surprised you

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-17 Thread Joseph Tainter
What are you ultimately going to do with the images? If you will print them, or have them printed, the output device will print them at 8 bits. I use 16 bits only for the most important images. Even still, onscreen, I can see very little difference between 8 and 16 bits. So I rarely use 16

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-17 Thread Herb Chong
] To: pdml [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2004 3:29 PM Subject: Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file? I use 16 bits only for the most important images. Even still, onscreen, I can see very little difference between 8 and 16 bits. So I rarely use 16 bits.

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-17 Thread Ramesh Kumar
--- Joseph Tainter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are you ultimately going to do with the images? If you will print them, or have them printed, the output device will print them at 8 bits. I will archive PEF file. I will import temporarily when its needed. Some numbers for a sample image

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Apr 2004 at 18:13, Ramesh Kumar wrote: Hi, I am using Adobe7 to convert PEF files into TIFF. During this conversion, I think, I should select 16bit. Am I right? If you are using the Pentax RAW Plugin as an import filter for PS7 then the files will be imported as 16 bits per

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-16 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Friday, Apr 16, 2004, at 21:13 America/New_York, Ramesh Kumar wrote: I am using Adobe7 to convert PEF files into TIFF. During this conversion, I think, I should select 16bit. Am I right? You should select 16 bits if you want the best quality. However the TIFF files will also be large,

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-16 Thread Rob Studdert
On 16 Apr 2004 at 22:30, Juey Chong Ong wrote: btw, what do you use to convert PEF to TIFF in Photoshop 7? I had to upgrade to Photoshop 8 to get the Adobe RAW Plug-in to recognize PEF. AFAIK the only PEF import filter that will work in PS7 is Pentax's own PENTAX RAW FILE Plugin Version

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-16 Thread Ramesh Kumar
I use PS CS. I had old version of plugin, I used to operate it using File/Import-Export/Raw plugin. This does not have BIT selection capablity. In this one, I had created action using File/Import-Export/Raw plugin In newversion of plugin, I can use File-Open to open a PEF file, a conversion dlg

Re: Bit selection for Pentax RAW file?

2004-04-16 Thread Ramesh Kumar
Sorry my initial mail said PS7 that is wrong, I use PS CS. Ramesh --- Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 16 Apr 2004 at 22:30, Juey Chong Ong wrote: btw, what do you use to convert PEF to TIFF in Photoshop 7? I had to upgrade to Photoshop 8 to get the Adobe RAW Plug-in to