Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Dr E D F Williams
Company from HELL! Updated: August 15, 2003 - Original Message - From: Pat White [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 12:11 AM Subject: Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D D. Glenn Arthur wrote: First, Google for anomalous reflectance. I've

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Doug Franklin
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 10:22:01 +0200, Dr E D F Williams wrote: More than a year ago (two?) we had a discussion about this very thing - colour perception. Do we all see the same colours? Two people look at a coloured object; both agree that it's yellow-green. But do they actually perceive

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Ryan Lee
It's an interesting thought, but what I perceive to be blue might actually what you perceive to be green. Imagine people around you who go thru life seeing 'blue' vegetables (though it seems perfectly normal to them *because* that's what they always known the label 'green' to refer to). And how

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Thursday, November 6, 2003, 2:24:49 PM, you wrote: It's an interesting thought, but what I perceive to be blue might actually what you perceive to be green. Imagine people around you who go thru life seeing 'blue' vegetables (though it seems perfectly normal to them *because* that's what

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Dr E D F Williams
! Updated: August 15, 2003 - Original Message - From: Bob Walkden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D Hi, Thursday, November 6, 2003, 2:24:49 PM, you wrote: It's an interesting

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Joe Wilensky
This brings up a question I have always wanted to ask -- related to the fact that my own two eyes see colors slightly differently! It's easiest to see in skin tones, but if I close one eye and then the other, it's obvious to me that my right eye sees a slightly warmer or redder rendition than

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread graywolf
Hell, my left eye sees colors differently (more blue) than my right eye, how could anyone think that two different people would see them the same? -- Dr E D F Williams wrote: I think its more likely that different eye/brain sets might see the same colour very slightly shifted, one way or the

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Eactivist
I've never noticed any color difference between my eyes, and in a simple test now, also don't. One has a lot of floaters, though. If that helps. Hehehe. Marnie aka Doe

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Keith Whaley
No perceptible color changes, but a faint (thin) cataract on the left cornea acts much like one of my old Takumars... Slightly yellow. Normally, it's not noticeable. Not with both eyes open. With just the left eye open, I can't _see_ the color bias, but my vision is much less sharp. Hardly

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread ernreed2
chris posted: On the subject of weird eyes, a friend of mine can tell which eye she is looking out of. I'm not sure if they're spaced further apart than normal, or if she just has trouble focusing them properly, but she says that she sees things from two slightly different perspectives...

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Butch Black
It's an interesting thought, but what I perceive to be blue might actually what you perceive to be green. Imagine people around you who go thru life seeing 'blue' vegetables (though it seems perfectly normal to them *because* that's what they always known the label 'green' to refer to). And how

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Hell, my left eye sees colors differently (more blue) than my right eye, how could anyone think that two different people would see them the same? Hey Tom, if you went to one of those retro 3-D movies of the Blob or whatever, you wouldn't need the

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Cotty
On 6/11/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: I've never noticed any color difference between my eyes, and in a simple test now, also don't. One has a lot of floaters, though. If that helps. ROTFL. Marnie, you kill me. Sorry folks. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places,

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Robert Gonzalez
I remember noticing this maybe 15 years ago. I just thought that I was getting old, or that one eye was irritated. Apparently everyone has a dominant eye, mine is my left eye, and it appears cooler than my right eye, which does seem to have a noticeable warmer tint to it. rg graywolf wrote:

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Andre Langevin
It's an interesting thought, but what I perceive to be blue might actually [be] what you perceive to be green. (...) And how would one actually prove any of this? Ryan I don't think it's empirically testable. If two people attach the same label to the same experience then that is all we can

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi, Thursday, November 6, 2003, 9:42:35 PM, you wrote: I don't think it's empirically testable. If two people attach the same label to the same experience then that is all we can know, or need to know. (...) Bob Among some amazonian groups, there is a single word for both green or blue, But

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Herb Chong
] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:52 AM Subject: Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D It might be a function of depth perception, like 3D glasses. My right eye seems to be color dominant. If I look at something and cover my left eye the color does not change. If I cover my right eye

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: chris posted: On the subject of weird eyes, a friend of mine can tell which eye she is looking out of. I'm not sure if they're spaced further apart than normal, or if she just has trouble focusing them properly, but she says that she sees

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-06 Thread Chris Brogden
On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Andre Langevin wrote: Among some amazonian groups, there is a single word for both green or blue, But if you show people both green and blue colors and ask if these are different, they will say they are. They just don't find it usefull for their purposes to distinguish

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-05 Thread Pat White
D. Glenn Arthur wrote: First, Google for anomalous reflectance. I've read about the effect on film before, and apparently there are certain fabric/dye combinations that are a real PITA for catalog photography because of it. (Or maybe you don't have to, since you already have a handle on the

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-04 Thread alex wetmore
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Rob Studdert wrote: On 3 Nov 2003 at 22:35, John Francis wrote: Oops. Make that IR and near-IR, not UV. There is increased sensitivity into the UV, too, but that causes things to look more blue, not more red. Proof-read more carefully! If the *ist D is like most

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-03 Thread D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
John Francis wrote: 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 123456789 12345678 (I used to use that trick a lot.) One one costume, though, I noticed an extreme colour shift. It was made of blue velvet material (about the colour of Sexy Kitty for those who watched the

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-03 Thread John Francis
I've seen this sort of thing once before - slide shots of some flowers in New Zealand exhibited a very similar alteration. The cause is that film (and, I assume, the CCD sensor) is more senstive to the low-UV than the human eye. Objects with a high component of UV in their appearance can

Re: Colour fidelity low-light AF of *ist-D

2003-11-03 Thread Rob Studdert
On 3 Nov 2003 at 22:35, John Francis wrote: Oops. Make that IR and near-IR, not UV. There is increased sensitivity into the UV, too, but that causes things to look more blue, not more red. Proof-read more carefully! If the *ist D is like most other cameras it will have a hot mirror (IR