Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-07 Thread Bulent Celasun
This has turned into a very informative thread by the detailed responses from experienced photographers. I did benefit immensely. I will be trying Lightroom for some time, to understand the processes better. For future visitors, I must tell that this is no trivial matter as raw developers have

Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-06 Thread Boris Liberman
On 3/4/2011 11:00 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote: I think Jostein's below comment explains why SilkyPix developer produces a better looking output: It might be that SilkyPix' understanding of proprietary data gives it an edge in the processing. I use LightZone and still like it very much. However,

Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-06 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
There are several of areas of differences where image quality is concerned with raw conversion. Let's consider the process, to first order approximation: - chroma interpolation is the stage where the raw processor takes the bayer matrix data and extracts from it RGB channel organized data ... an

Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-04 Thread Bulent Celasun
Darren, Bob, Brian, Jostein, Thank you all very much for your extensive and informative replies. I think Jostein's below comment explains why SilkyPix developer produces a better looking output: It might be that SilkyPix' understanding of proprietary data gives it an edge in the processing. I

Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-04 Thread Brian Walters
On Fri, 04 Mar 2011 23:00 +0200, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: Darren, Bob, Brian, Jostein, Thank you all very much for your extensive and informative replies. I think Jostein's below comment explains why SilkyPix developer produces a better looking output: It might be

Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-04 Thread AlunFoto
Now that you mention it, Bulent, it was the K-20D that turned me away from LightZone. It worked reasonably well with the K-10D, but turned the shadow areas of K-20D raw files into mush. The noise handling was very poor too, I ended up buying NoiseNinja for Photoshop (CS3 I think it was) to

Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-03 Thread Bulent Celasun
(Sorry for cross-posting; no one has replied to this one in the forum I visit every day). I understand that a raw developer software works like the clasical darkroom developer (solution). There are different varieties producing different outputs from the same negative/raw file. In the film days,

Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-03 Thread Darren Addy
It is not clear to me if you are talking about transferring the Curves to Photoshop, Lightroom or some other program. It seems unlikely to me that you can do what you want to do because each piece of software is like a black box. You have no idea what it is doing with the values you give to it.

Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-03 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bulent, I don't know how you do it, but Lightroom 3 pre-sets sound like the solution. I went to a David Ziser seminar with Paul Sorenson earlier this year. Ziser makes liberal use of pre-sets on all the raw files he imports. You need somebody on the web to have figured this out for you already.

Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-03 Thread Brian Walters
On Thu, 03 Mar 2011 23:27 +0200, Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com wrote: (Sorry for cross-posting; no one has replied to this one in the forum I visit every day). I understand that a raw developer software works like the clasical darkroom developer (solution). There are different

Re: Curve transfer for RAW. Is there such a thing?

2011-03-03 Thread AlunFoto
2011/3/3 Bulent Celasun bulent.cela...@gmail.com: My question is this: Is there a practical way (other than trial and error) to use/copy/replicate the effect of a curve of, say, Silkypix for another raw developer? Or, the curves are hidden, embedded, protected etc.? Bulent, If I understand