Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/5/2011 20:59, Bob W wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread steve harley
On 2011-04-05 18:21 , Mark Roberts wrote: Non-Lightroom compatible, but here it is: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=222 interesting technique, and thanks for sharing, but it doesn't seem intuitive that spherical aberration alone can describe soft focus a thought experiment: if you aimed

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-04-05 8:21 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote: I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Mark Roberts
steve harley wrote: On 2011-04-05 18:21 , Mark Roberts wrote: Non-Lightroom compatible, but here it is: http://www.robertstech.com/blog/?p=222 interesting technique, and thanks for sharing, but it doesn't seem intuitive that spherical aberration alone can describe soft focus a thought

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:06 AM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: interesting technique, and thanks for sharing, but it doesn't seem intuitive that spherical aberration alone can describe soft focus a thought experiment: if you aimed a soft-focus lens at just the right concave surface,

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-04-06 10:13 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:06 AM, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com wrote: interesting technique, and thanks for sharing, but it doesn't seem intuitive that spherical aberration alone can describe soft focus a thought experiment: if you aimed a

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:12 AM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: If you had a lens that was perfect in every regard *except* spherical aberration and aimed it at a concave surface (of precisely the right curvature) everything would be sharp. You fell for Steve's cunning trap, and are

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: And we think Pentax QA is bad. :-) The root cause of the problem was that an apparatus used to test the mirror was incorrectly assembled. The HST primary was then precisely ground to exactly the wrong figure.

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread steve harley
On 2011-04-06 08:13 , Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 10:06 AM, steve harleyp...@paper-ape.com wrote: a thought experiment: if you aimed a soft-focus lens at just the right concave surface, would everything be sharp? i think there'd still be more going on You're confusing

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:26 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: actually i was just taking at face value the terms and diagrams on Mark's post Ah, didn't catch that. I didn't read it too closely... the figures didn't load in Google Reader due to anti-hotlinking code, and I didn't

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:26 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: actually i was just taking at face value the terms and diagrams on Mark's post Ah, didn't catch that. I didn't read it too closely... the figures

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Matthew Hunt wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Matthew Hunt m...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:26 PM, steve harley p...@paper-ape.com wrote: actually i was just taking at face value the terms and diagrams on Mark's post Ah, didn't catch that. I didn't read it too

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-06 Thread Steven Desjardins
Today I tried experimenting with the soft-focus art filter on my E-PL1. If the result of soft focus is mild overexposure and lowered contrast, then I've nailed it. Better luck with the lens, Kris. ;-) On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Matthew Hunt

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 4, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/4/2011 21:29, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: It is damn near impossible to find anyone who actually shoots with it, posts pictures on the web and admits it. The lens should be in my hands tomorrow morning, I will just have to see

RE: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
This http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11097full=1 is one of my all time favorite pictures. Took it with F85 soft, tripod and all... Boris Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world. kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:01 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: This http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11097full=1 is one of my all time favorite pictures. Took it with F85 soft, tripod and all... Boris Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world. Welcome

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/5/2011 11:01, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world. kris Thanks. I still regret (now a bit more) parting with this lens... By the way, my hunt for soft filter produced no results that I could have stayed with. Boris

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/5/2011 11:01, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world. kris Thanks. I still regret (now a bit more) parting with this lens... By the way, my hunt for soft filter

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 5, 2011, at 01:38 , Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/5/2011 11:01, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world. kris Thanks. I still regret (now a bit more) parting with this

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 5, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 01:38 , Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/5/2011 11:01, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world. kris

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/5/2011 11:38, Larry Colen wrote: By filters do you mean physical filters? Because I think that taking sharpness out of a photo is something that could be done trivially easily in digital post processing. Yes, exactly that, pieces of material that you put in front of the lens. I think

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-04-05 5:14 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 2:05 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 01:38 , Larry Colen wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/5/2011 11:01, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: Two points about that. The lens does a 3D transform. By the time you get the image, the sensor has removed the directional information and all you get to work with is a 2D plane with colour and luminance information. All spatial info is lost. If *all* the information

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote: I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd be most thankful for the recipe. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List

RE: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote: I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd be most thankful for the recipe. Boris Damn you all and I only just

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread John Francis
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 08:13:58AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: If *all* the information available from the light was recorded by the sensor, you could do away with the lens entirely. You could simply expose the sensor through the empty lens mount and recreate the scene later with digital

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Roberts
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 17:04:34 +0300, you wrote: On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote: I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd be most thankful for the

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Keith Whaley
Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: This http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11097full=1 is one of my all time favorite pictures. Took it with F85 soft, tripod and all... Boris Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything world. kris How about the Soft = blurry world?

RE: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bruce Walker [...] The lens does a 3D transform. By the time you get the image, the sensor has removed the directional information and all you get to work with is a 2D plane with colour and luminance information. All

RE: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Bob W
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd be most thankful for the

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Roberts
On Tue, 5 Apr 2011 18:59:51 +0100, you wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Joseph McAllister
On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:19 , Keith Whaley wrote: Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: This http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11097full=1 is one of my all time favorite pictures. Took it with F85 soft, tripod and all... Boris Beautiful. A welcome distraction from this sharpness trumps everything

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Charles Robinson
On Apr 5, 2011, at 12:19, Keith Whaley wrote: How about the Soft = blurry world? IMMHO, if 'soft' is what everybody calls that lens, I'll stay away from it. Used to be, my eyes saw the world that way. I gladly paid a fair amount of money to CORRECT that deficiency. Same here - this

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 5, 2011, at 9:36 AM, John Francis wrote: On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 08:13:58AM -0400, Bruce Walker wrote: If *all* the information available from the light was recorded by the sensor, you could do away with the lens entirely. You could simply expose the sensor through the empty lens

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 5, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Apr 5, 2011, at 10:19 , Keith Whaley wrote: Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: This http://not.contaxg.com/document.php?id=11097full=1 is one of my all time favorite pictures. Took it with F85 soft, tripod and all... Boris Beautiful. A

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Steven Desjardins
ROTFL. Hurry and shoot before it becomes obsolete!! On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 10:07 AM, Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com wrote: On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote: I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote: I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd be most thankful for the recipe. Non-Lightroom

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Bruce Walker
On 11-04-05 8:21 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote: I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd be most

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Larry Colen
On Apr 5, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote: I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in LightRoom, I'd be

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Brian Walters
On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 21:15 -0400, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On 11-04-05 8:21 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote: I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-05 Thread Mark Roberts
Bruce Walker wrote: On 11-04-05 8:21 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: On 4/5/2011 17:01, Mark Roberts wrote: I've come up with a pretty good soft-focus emulation recipe for Photoshop. I'll try to post it in a day or two. Mark, if by any chance it could be re-created in

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-04 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/1/2011 21:49, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: One of my new acquisitions - the F 85 soft - is held hostage in customs now. Damn those heartless bastards. I know it's their job but still.. will end up costing me way more than I ever wanted to pay for it. Any comments on it while I wait with my

RE: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-04 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
Any comments on it while I wait with my wallet open? Kris, I had this lens and sold it back to its original owner as per their request and my willingness to part with it. I had to do so mostly because I got scared of the rumors that FA 31 Ltd were gonna get discontinued. I was wrong on both

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-04 Thread Boris Liberman
On 4/4/2011 21:29, Krisjanis Linkevics wrote: It is damn near impossible to find anyone who actually shoots with it, posts pictures on the web and admits it. The lens should be in my hands tomorrow morning, I will just have to see first-hand. kris This

Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-01 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
One of my new acquisitions - the F 85 soft - is held hostage in customs now. Damn those heartless bastards. I know it's their job but still.. will end up costing me way more than I ever wanted to pay for it. Any comments on it while I wait with my wallet open? kris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail

Re: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-01 Thread eckinator
I've never managed to get anything by them... have you? 2011/4/1 Krisjanis Linkevics krisjanis.linkev...@exigenservices.com: One of my new acquisitions - the F 85 soft - is held hostage in customs now. Damn those heartless bastards. I know it's their job but still.. will end up costing me

RE: Damned customs - F 85 Soft

2011-04-01 Thread Krisjanis Linkevics
I've never managed to get anything by them... have you? Every once in a while. TNT and DHL always cause serious problems, EMS that isn't routed through any of those usually passes through as if nobody cares. The main problem I have with them (TNT/DHL) is that it takes so much time, additional